1. Even US has many variants and sub-variants. But, only the best stuff gets inducted into USAF and US Navy.
2. Same thing happens in Russia. They research various models. Best stuff gets inducted.
3. Unmanned aircrafts are for infiltration, recon and bombing missions. Air-to-air combat can never go unmanned. Impossible at least for another 50 years.
4. Because, unmanned aircrafts are remote controlled, like an RC-toy. Can't fight manned fighters with those. Just not practical.
actually he does have a point. unmanned planes have very limited situational awareness compared to manned fighters. A friend of mine who happens to be a UCAV pilot even tells me that it's practically easier to fly an ordinary prop plane than an unmanned one let alone target acquisition
50 years seriously, ill be living on some distant planet by then, and retire... % years air to air uav man, thats the plan, accelerate faster than you can decellerate
Wow!! Amazing! Congratulations russia, I saw the sokhoi t-50 and I like it more than the raptor, although the raptor is nice too:) just one question, what's the song name?
Nice airplane and everything but its already becoming obsolete: The next generation of fighter aircraft from the west will be unmanned, that's the real future. Technology has reached a point to where aircraft performance far surpasses the phisical limitations of man.
well, there are a lot of things to consider when giving an aircraft full autonomy. first and foremost is IFF; second is if the L/Ku-band comm channel is jammed and won't accept changes in the objective; third is the lack of situational awareness. sure the technology is there but combat practicality isn't there yet.
it's not necessarily copying. it's what happens to a flanker when you set further distance between the engines and place a vertical S-duct which would inevitably look like a YF-23 but very different. also, i'm making a 360 RCS study on the PAK-FA atm :S
So, how was your research on PAK FA's stealth going? If Russians could extract & duplicate F-117's stealth panel layer 100%, the T-50 will be stealthy. Else it will have just EMCON 5 level of F-22.
Also F-22 defeated AV-8 & Sea Harrier. F-22 Raptor surpass F-35, export F-15SE Silent Eagle, & offer F-16IN Block 70 Super Viper for MMRCA. Also don't mess with F-22 Raptor other wise you wish you never challenge F-22 in dogfight. F-22 Raptor kill score 144:0! HA! Su-35BM doesn't stand a chance against F-22 Raptor because Raptor destroyed Su-35BM at Pacific Vision. F-22 Raptor Rulez! Also Export sukhoi fighters like Su-30MK1/2, Su-30MKM, & Su-30MKI are useless. F-22 surpass Mig-35/31BM/29smt.
you forgot that the F-22 was "shot" down by the F-18. anyway, while it may be true theoretically that the F-22 is currently the best fighter, that may change once it experiences real conflicts in the future or if it didn't, it would just go down in history as "the number 1 fighter on pencil and paper". then again, I don't see anything constructive nor of great bearing with your comments since last year. Just the usual stroke-my-epeen.
This sounds ridiculous. If you can say it this way, American will reply why you use internet after American invented computer hardware & software. Russia is getting poorer and poorer for not getting involve in global economy & exporting domestic goods. Can't even buy Su-30MK2, Su-35bm & MIG-35 to replace own ageing air force. Chiormy Oriol cancelled & went for cheap T-90 alternative. Russia can't afford to develop & buy things that it could invent & build due to no money.
ofc for many fanatics manipulated ppl wich belvie in everyshit media / tv news papers told them
CONGRATS !!!
usa cant even win vs 3rd world coutnry...
yes this sounds realy ridiculous..
RIDICULOUS AMERICA
and i can reply why usa use satelit...
why use russian yak 141 project project for F23 since F22 craptor is total faiulr and a great example to show how to waste money... even with the german sink engine..
Americans white are mixed of all caucasion races including Brits, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, etc. It is not strange that they could build the best. F-22 and F-35 are top fighters now without comparable rival. Not even Su-37 could match these 2. Russia developing PAK-FA would need to reverse engineer from sole F-117A wreckage shot down in Serbia. Mig-1.44 is failed stealth ATF. I see that current US planes and their weapons performed good. Russia fought badly in Chechnya and Afghanistan
Without us, you would not have the windows based computer you're on, or the internet, or youtube which are all products of america. I know its trendy to hate the US but don't bite the hand that feeds you.
US economy will rise & its dollar shall strengthen this year onwards. They are preparing to compete in global economy in full force with lots of new products & services including challenging Japs like how it did in WW2 battle. This time, it is economic war. Russians want to join or just hide & give lame excuse like the country is too cold with thick ice preventing economic growth?
US economy is very very delicate due to the lack of a gold standard... No one can predict its behaviour in open market... So, get ur ass back to middle school... come back when u have at least an undergrad in Finance, like me...
by the way, the dollar gets its value from trade value in international exchange... 65% of this exchange value comes from the Oil industry... because Opec uses the dollar for its sales... If Opec alone pulls out and starts dealing in Euros, the dollar value will drop by 30% and then the stock market will crash, pulling the value further down by at least another 10%... 40% decline in currency would mean insane inflation... Kaboom... economical collapse... just like USSR in the 90s.
it's the main reason why the american forefathers got rid of the british banking system. a monetary system that doesn't rely on gold standard creates dishonest spending.
the only reason why euro is dropping is because they had to bail out greece.
like i said before, there's a big difference between being able to pay debt and not being able to pay debt and had to rely on a ponzi financial scheme.
and for the record, the US economy isn't genuine capitalist since it bailed out companies that SHOULD have failed in the first place for having terrible assets.
while there seems to be minute short term recovery, it will inevitably have long term corrections since a federal reserve system only generates devaluation when no standard is regularly purchased to balance it. just look at china and india. their economies are bullish since they are the largest purchasers of gold and china being the
as you can, the oil price isn't declining even if the demand is low. why? this is to balance the volatility of the dollar asset in the long term period because if it didn't it's considered a liability.
while the dollar DID stop declining last year(december), this is due to the january effect where people sell assets to avoid paying more tax and creates a "virtual" recovery. if you will notice the january 4 graph, it started declining again which is the anticipated
Sukhoi T-50 made its first flight and announced to public!! Headline in yahoo news!! Looks like Raptor + more tentacles behind like octopus. Air intake seems quite big to be stealthy
Hi friend, YF-23 & B-2 air intake are wide in terms of width but higher in terms of height. PAK-FA T-50's air intake is wide and high perhaps they wanted it to be Mach 2.2 capable. Main reason why it copies F-22 is to play safe that its stealth won't be compromised as certain angle and perspectives are required to keep it stealthy besides having layer of stealth panels. I guessed they roughly managed to analyzed the material content and ingredient used in F-117's stealth panel
because they can pay for it without relying on devaluating their own currency to the point where it becomes toilet paper.
you see there's a big difference between taking loans which you're able to pay and taking loans which you can't and have to resolve to ponzi monetary scheme.
another big difference is that while russia borrowed billions, on the other hand US borrowed trillions; but while russians did borrow cash, they have a positive account balance while the US is at the bottom of the list
if debt meant nothing then why is dubai and greece economically struggling? the only way the US kept on its feet(barely) is because of endless money printing which is only good on a short term basis. hell, we might even see whole countries go on default this year. the way traders see it, it's smarter to invest in gold(non physical ofc)
you seem to forget that our "debt" is because of a trade deficiency with china. The reason being is that their currency is trash compared to ours, hence the trade DEFICIENCY.
This is all changing because the u.s. is urging the chinese government to raise their currency value, which in turn would let go of our debt to china.
This doesn't mean that we are in trouble. This doesn't mean that America is going bankrupt.
wow. you seem to have a control problem. you like to twist sentences to your favor. Were you picked on at school or something?
At the end of the day, the u.s. is the richest country on earth, which also happens to have the strongest military in the world by far. This you cannot deny, unless you are physically blind,deaf, and mute.
Sure, i might have a big ego, but being that i am American, i have every right to ;)
ponzi economy? what, are you angry because you don't live in such a flourishing country? People all over the world come to America for a better future. More than any other country. But i guess their all wrong though right?
me angry? I'm actually enjoying this discussion. You see the problem is that you are overlooking the transition of the US economy from a creditor to a debtor nation. What you also missed is, like what GTH11 mentioned, is the total debt of the US where you just overshadowed it with the percent debt vs. GDP, but that's another story. We, however, look on the long term scale. Sure, the US did recover months ago BUT it did came with a huge correction spike.
re: ponzi economy, try looking into your monetary system. it's printing more money than how much it buys gold standard and the way they spend more and acquire more debt in order to pay previous debt with very minimal interest in government bonds over a 30 year period is a ponzi scheme.
catalyzed ofc with the credit and housing bubble and voila
overshadowed by %??? that is what means EVERYTHING. If we are only 90% in debt, and other countries are 300%+ in debt, then obviously we are better of than them.
Britain alone is $12 trillion in debt, which means they are around 376% in debt, and yet i don't see anyone complaining about them.
The same with many other countries in europe. And like i said, our debt comes from a trade deficiency. We are deliberately bringing down the value of the $ to get rid of debt.
well you see the problem with that is that the rapid inflation of $, which is the international medium of exchange, is that it deviates from "normal" capitalism. instead of letting the system fail on its own, though it soon would, they just just prolong the problem with bailouts and monetary schemes. Sure, the UK has plenty of debt but pound sterling failed decades ago and learned to be more conservative when it comes to finance whereas the US just continues with its spending spree
That figure includes the UK government purchase of controlling shares in major banks.
The true debt figure is much lower since the net worth of assets now owned by the UK government globally are not declared in the national debt accounts.
With the global economy now showing signs of returning to growth, watch out for those asset values to rise substantially.
it is like that for the circumstance that both countries are economically different, US having more resources and man power over the smaller country which is UK but on the other hand, UK's assets are mainly found elsewhere.
you are hilariously trying to cloud the uk's debt by irrelevant topics. At the end of the day, the uk is 365% in debt, whether it be from assets or not.
And even without our superior numbers, and resources, we still dominate over little britain. Our Military tech is unrivaled. If anyone could compare to the u.s., it would be russia, and they are still far behind.
i don't know what you are talking about because over 2/3rds of china's aircraft inventory is still j-7's. And if you don't know what a j-7 is i advise you to google it. They are no match even for our 2-3 generation aircraft. BTW, we are now in our 5th generation of aircraft(f-35, and f-22)
they still only spend less than 1/6th on their military, and they have a lot of soldiers, so they have to spend most of it just on taking care of them
you have no idea what they're developing with pakistan then.
also, they don't need to spend too much on the military because they have no plans on invading anybody and just care about economic development and security
whatever you are talking about, it couldn't even compare with America's tech. You have to remember that you need money for R&D, and the u.s. has the most of it by far.
And yes, china does have to use a large chunk of their budget just to feed and clothe their soldiers.
And even without invading 2 countries at once, the u.s still spends far more on military expenditures than china.
you should also British history, when their "empire" collapsed. But since they've become conservative in their fiscal policies, their economy is now stable though only a shadow of what it was before.
Also, why are you comparing the US with UK when it should be compared with Asia?
because "asia" isn't a country. I compare countries you see. The u.s. is almost 3x richer than 2nd place(japan).
There is no denying the fact that the u.s. is the most dominant country in the world by far. We aren't going anywhere. Britain collapsed because it couldn't withstand all of its territories all over the world. This isn't the same with America, we have more money, and less territory to take care of. Our economy is also much more massive than britain's ever was.
perhaps you've forgotten about all of those military bases, Afghanistan and Iraq. and since the dollar value has dropped, which in turn devaluates dollar assets and increases the value of other monetary assets; I can't see why you're still feeling bullish when the US is on a decline and smart investors are going to Asia(and by Asia, I meant China, Singapore, Japan, India, Korea, et al.). I mean, nobody's even interested in buying US bonds with their near zero rates(except for China)
wow i can't believe you woud say this. First of all, the dollar USED to be in decline, and in the past couple of monthes it has gone up. And the u.s. economy is definitely not in decline, that was only for like one year. Now, the u.s growth rate is growing even faster than all of the countries in the eu combined. The IMF predicts that our growth rate will go back to its usual 4-5% in the near near future. And 4-5% is a lot for $14.4 trillion
USD is still in decline. that dollar recovery was halted when bernancke gave his infamous speech just last month which gave a huge correction in the forex(which in turn gave huge smiles for traders :D)
yes, American investors are stocking up on Asian bonds too. And our bonds still aren't bad, being the most in the world. And you have to remember that over 65% of the world's foreign exchange balance is in dollars.
get rid of the dollar asset? are YOU SERIOUS? if the dollar disappeared right now, china, and most other countries in the world would go completely bankrupt. They are still buying dollars as we speak. And like i have said, the dollar value is rising.
also while foreign debt is at $ 13 trillion, the sum government and private sector debt (with contingent liabilities) is at *drumroll please* a whopping $ 117 trillion.
bitch please. The public debt (officially) is 12 trillion. not 117. You must be out of your damn mind. The u.s. alone has almost $200 trillion in residential, etc etc etc assets.(the most in the world)
And the u.s. is not as much % in debt as most countries in the eu.
I'm not out of my mind. In fact, those 117 trillion USD is owed to the federal reserves, existing banks that are no longer considered safe and other banks that have gone bankrupt due to bad assets.
13 trillion is just the foreign public debt.
also, I thought you're not comparing the US to regions yet you're now comparing it to the EU.
no, i said the COUNTRIES in the eu, not eu in whole. Learn to read.
"January effect".....lol....you lie, and then when i prove you wrong, you say its the "January effect"...lol...
and like i have said, the u.s.(citizens) hold over 200 trillion in assets, and this is WHILE we are in recession. Imagine when our economy turns around(as it is doing now, and as it has done in the past)
a lie? it's been observed for almost a century now. you can even check it on investopedia or wikipedia or even ask any trader if you want to. stocks and assets rallied on January 4 and is continuing to grow this week.
the thing is, whenever there's a currency rally, expect a huge correction. but if you want a less twitchy graph(boring trading) go for oil which has near linear increments.
usa owes FA to no one the Fed OWES usa plenty the enemy within who fucked america up THE MONEY MASTERS will shock u at the extent they rob usa daily, i hate us foreign policy But its dictated to you by your masters 23rd Dec 1013 all Chr. congressmen went home for Xmas 2 non Chr voted for the fed us put $20M to start the bank banks can loan out 10X what they have loaned themselfs $200 Bought 90% share with FA the start of the greatet deception in human history commited against my ppl Pres.Wilson
you imbecile, America has been in debt since it's birth, and that has nothing to do with our economy. In fact, while we are 90% in debt, there are other countries(many other countries) that are 300%+++ in debt. That is just a part of capitalism.
Regardless of our debt, we still have an income that is unrivaled. We bring in $14.4 trillion a year. Russia only brings in 1.6 trillion a year. So even without debt, America is like a king, and russia is like a peasant.
imho, not just yet since drones in full autonomy is still in question though direct energy weapons are in existence but the problem is that it needs a light enough reactor or capacitor which would otherwise compromise agility.
This thing looks like a 6th generation! I do still think that even sixth generation will have a pilots! My opinion is based on current UAV's and all the advances made in the UAV industry so far... none of them is capable of fighting 360 war! 7th generation will definitely be pilot-less!
continued... tr3-b produced "distortions" in gravity and time however it wasnt 100% efficient. meaning it had a big antigravity ceterfuge therofluid engine but only covered 70% of its structure when we speak of it's total weight.long story short it cant envelope the whole craft for it to jump from point to point,but was promising and later different size engines were developed and "hick-up" was born in 97/98. he told me and i quote "we did Buck Rogers a long timeago". hope this helped a little.
Yes it helped, thank you. Don't want to exceped the idea of never seeing a Huge! fleet of TR3s ( pore me ) boo hoo LOL! From the evedence i have seen, i am, was pretty sure the TR3s were being built in numbers? 10 or more?? Have you seen the several sst missions with the so called ufos that have TR3 ritten all over them?? anyway i am pestering you LOL! sorry and thanks.
your not bothering me, hey the number one rule in goverment spending is" why build one,when you can build 10 at 10 times the price" lol. and your correct on the nembers,theres got to be at least a dozen to 18 operating around the world but will be replaced by hick-up. im sure they will be around for a long long time . hit me up anytime im sure we can exchange all kinds of interesting things on projects.have a good x-mass
Thanks brother mary x-mass i have a vid i would like to send you to check out, maybe you have seen it? anyway real cool and would like to know what you think?
P.S thanks for not beating my brains out for the bad spellen LOL!
Hay vizcaya7 I see you responded to the vid i sent you, thanks, but i can't seem to open the response to read what you think about the video, DAM! I am new to this + i am using a ps3 to send and reseve mail. It looks like i can send mail but when i click on reseved mail it won't open the re page. I have tried and tried to fix it but all i seem to be able to do is mess somthing els up. I will keep at it to try and fix it????
it's funny how russians "claim" this hi tech superiority , this has been goin on since the cold war. the bottom line is they cant afford it. russians wait in line for bread and the navy cant fuel up it's ships..give me a break.
D.A.R.P.A /AirForce /Lochead Martin had a stealth prototype flying in 1972. it is now almost 2010 and russia still has pictures.
Skunkworks.D.A.R.P.A USAF & National Recon Office = the TR3-B project nuff said
Vizcay7 you have been paying attention. The TR3s are coming out of there testing faze that started in the erly 80s and are now being produced in numbers and are even capable of space flight operations. When do you think thay will unvail or disclose the TR3s??????? I am thinking 2015 at best, i hope im wrong, i CAN'T WAIT! that dam long.
my fathers retired now and his best friend and a personel friend of our family was in Navy Intelagence and worked at the Pentagon,and the part that really matters here is he was one of many liaisons between goverment and Top Secret R&D programs. his job was to go to these sites,evaluate the project and recomend further funding,progression to next phase aplacation,testing,prototype,then full scale production. he did this for about 34 yrs so i have 2nd hand knowledge, long story. hit me back
ans. NEVER,sorry the ramificationa are way to hi,it would acknowledge an almost 100% clean burning engine and fuel that was developed in the late 70's,with everything goin on it would raise too many questions,it will b cancelled bcuz it's the little brother project of a much bigger one. "hick-up" tr3-b was the reserch platform. Auroa will be b4 2020 but will be called another name but by then it's a 35yr old plane. see the pattern here? hit mebk
your probably right, i understand the way they think as well, they sure are teasing the hell out of us with it. Is hick-up the star ship?? I have not herd much about it. Aurora is impresive and will replace the shuttle i think? Aurora is like yesterdays tec if you know what i mean, no disrespect and im glad my tax dollers go to thoughs projects but i want to see the holy grail of flight! Any good info on hick-up out there??
on "hick-up" this was told to me before my fathers friend died of leukaemia 3 yrs ago. "hick-up" is a program of crafts that very in size with different tasks. recon & intel gathering, global strike capability in any airspace and non atmosheric operations. from what he told me was this craft doesnt fly around like what we would think.instead it jumps from one area to another,but at very long long ranges,this system will be developed to work "off planet" as well. tr3-b had potentail 4 "hick-up"
Comparing usa technology's steaths against Russia is like if usa were alredy in the century 18 Just 'couse Russia is so advanced that put's usa in the past
For this reasons:
*the working class in the United States of America are poorly paid
*us government is very poorly advised
*the information service of usa is umprepared and composed of corrupt bandits
So Russia is more advanced than USA in aircraft? Seems other way around but whatever! Maybe tell to Russian who came to USA and help create stealth and other things.
I never saw Russian stealth fighter or bomber yet, let me know where it is since Russia is much more advanced in this area.
Sebia bought MIG-29SMT? My country just sold off its entire fleet of MIG-29N(S variant 4 export) Fulcrum C except 2 trainers MIG-29UB replaced by Su-30MKM probably they knew MIG-29S/N is inferior to US existing fighters due to less avionics, capable radar and payload. MIG-29SK/M/SMT/OVB onwards only on par with western fighters.
All Warsaw Pact countries & Russia will need to concentrate on building up economy b4 they could rebuild their military. All these countries should form new East EU in global trade. Perhaps Russia could market their newly modified to latest trend goods in these countries to build up ground and at the same time all will prosper. MIG-29SMT & Su-27M onwards will require higher maintenance cost due to more avionics and new AESA/PESA radars involved. Unlike MIG-29S and Su-27 Flanker A/B
these russian facists bastards are to stupid ass to even comprehend what stealth technology is,i assure you they are not even close to perfecting something like this,and will not even years from now
Major Dumai, do you want to comment on Russia getting involved in domestic goods and compete in global economy so that Russian people could prosper and live with high buying power like US, Japan and West European?
Looks like a nice plane, but I can't really tell with all those lines and boxes in the way
Theriomalstrom 1 year ago
well, it's my earliest attempt in aviation design so it's expected ;)
saintkatanalegacy 1 year ago
Isn't this a very early concept of the T-50? Which is a Sukhoi aircraft?
slaneyboi 1 year ago
you mean T-60 ;)
I'm serious btw
but I just borrowed the FSW MiG-23 idea back in the 80's
saintkatanalegacy 1 year ago
Ah okay, Thanks :)
slaneyboi 1 year ago
great , wow another new Russian fighter!
The Russians make some really top notch weapons.
The problem i see is they have way too many variants and sub-variants , this will/must present a logistical nightmare in any real prolonged conflict.
And as another poster said ," the west is moving very rapidly to unmanned aircraft" for it's first wave .
thetankboy 1 year ago
1. Even US has many variants and sub-variants. But, only the best stuff gets inducted into USAF and US Navy.
2. Same thing happens in Russia. They research various models. Best stuff gets inducted.
3. Unmanned aircrafts are for infiltration, recon and bombing missions. Air-to-air combat can never go unmanned. Impossible at least for another 50 years.
4. Because, unmanned aircrafts are remote controlled, like an RC-toy. Can't fight manned fighters with those. Just not practical.
pogularocky 1 year ago
i agree with almost everything you said , except for unmanned aerial combat.
i would think that it is far closer than 50 years away, 10 years tops, fewer should a major war brake out.
either way i believe both the U.S. and Russia are roughly evenly matched and any conflict between us would result in total destruction.
i also believe that at some point in time we will grow closer as we have many of the same enemies and interests .
we just need to get our heads out of our respective asses.
thetankboy 1 year ago
actually he does have a point. unmanned planes have very limited situational awareness compared to manned fighters. A friend of mine who happens to be a UCAV pilot even tells me that it's practically easier to fly an ordinary prop plane than an unmanned one let alone target acquisition
saintkatanalegacy 1 year ago
50 years seriously, ill be living on some distant planet by then, and retire... % years air to air uav man, thats the plan, accelerate faster than you can decellerate
mercedesbenzrules 1 year ago
Thanks:)
lidul 2 years ago
Wow!! Amazing! Congratulations russia, I saw the sokhoi t-50 and I like it more than the raptor, although the raptor is nice too:) just one question, what's the song name?
lidul 2 years ago 4
adagio for strings remix
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Nice airplane and everything but its already becoming obsolete: The next generation of fighter aircraft from the west will be unmanned, that's the real future. Technology has reached a point to where aircraft performance far surpasses the phisical limitations of man.
gsotodotcom 2 years ago
well, there are a lot of things to consider when giving an aircraft full autonomy. first and foremost is IFF; second is if the L/Ku-band comm channel is jammed and won't accept changes in the objective; third is the lack of situational awareness. sure the technology is there but combat practicality isn't there yet.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
nice work ... what's the name of the song?
thx
m1str3tzul 2 years ago
adagio for stings remix
pazalshta comrade :)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Sorry for my mistake, you are right. T-50 is copying YF-23 a bit. I didn't get to look at it properly earlier.
taekarkung 2 years ago
it's not necessarily copying. it's what happens to a flanker when you set further distance between the engines and place a vertical S-duct which would inevitably look like a YF-23 but very different. also, i'm making a 360 RCS study on the PAK-FA atm :S
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
So, how was your research on PAK FA's stealth going? If Russians could extract & duplicate F-117's stealth panel layer 100%, the T-50 will be stealthy. Else it will have just EMCON 5 level of F-22.
taekarkung 2 years ago
apparently sigma=0.006 m^2 at: lambda=0.3m; front aspect
should be lower since that is sigma(max) and it's only the shape accounted for and RAM isn't included yet.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
I'll shoot it out of the sky
jaimeheidijames 2 years ago
I would up the thesselation values
kokone9 2 years ago
I tell you, if wars could be won by just producing the best graphics of aircrafts on video, the Ruskies would win hands down.
I have seen more drawings of the T50 Pak Fa than any other aircraft.
fuzzybollox 2 years ago
it just flew yesterday ya know <.<
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@fuzzybollox and what t 50 pak fa to do with Mig? These are 2 separate companies Sukhoi and Migunov.
obeybosss 2 years ago
This look familiar, didn't Clint Eastwood steal this plane from the Soviets in 1982 in a movie called Firefox?
DevilDog68145 2 years ago
hardly resembles Firefox tbh :S
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
LOL, I was just kidding, what is this?
DevilDog68145 2 years ago
just something I made :P
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Wow, nice creativity, great job.
DevilDog68145 2 years ago
Also F-22 defeated AV-8 & Sea Harrier. F-22 Raptor surpass F-35, export F-15SE Silent Eagle, & offer F-16IN Block 70 Super Viper for MMRCA. Also don't mess with F-22 Raptor other wise you wish you never challenge F-22 in dogfight. F-22 Raptor kill score 144:0! HA! Su-35BM doesn't stand a chance against F-22 Raptor because Raptor destroyed Su-35BM at Pacific Vision. F-22 Raptor Rulez! Also Export sukhoi fighters like Su-30MK1/2, Su-30MKM, & Su-30MKI are useless. F-22 surpass Mig-35/31BM/29smt.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
you forgot that the F-22 was "shot" down by the F-18. anyway, while it may be true theoretically that the F-22 is currently the best fighter, that may change once it experiences real conflicts in the future or if it didn't, it would just go down in history as "the number 1 fighter on pencil and paper". then again, I don't see anything constructive nor of great bearing with your comments since last year. Just the usual stroke-my-epeen.
nothing personal, just being frank
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
its a shame compare a country wich kill innocent ppl since it was created with other...
bankers give a fuck to the civil...
all about money..
dosnt matter who die
enemy or own ppl if the price is oke
that USA
since usa is the largest oil user worldwide and russia the bigges producer .. usa suck nigger balls for some free drop of oil
USA sells like a whore
SibirianHusky 2 years ago
Racism just makes a feeble argument even weeker, you slobic piece of shit.
shaftster2001 2 years ago
thats a big target
7Goggles7 2 years ago
МиГ 35?
Devastator1988 2 years ago
and why usa use russian space toilolets ?
try after russia get into space
after you know its possible and you can survive...
after russia set first satelit in space..
after after...
after u killed all native americans for cheap ground
well done
SibirianHusky 2 years ago
This sounds ridiculous. If you can say it this way, American will reply why you use internet after American invented computer hardware & software. Russia is getting poorer and poorer for not getting involve in global economy & exporting domestic goods. Can't even buy Su-30MK2, Su-35bm & MIG-35 to replace own ageing air force. Chiormy Oriol cancelled & went for cheap T-90 alternative. Russia can't afford to develop & buy things that it could invent & build due to no money.
taekarkung 2 years ago
ofc for many fanatics manipulated ppl wich belvie in everyshit media / tv news papers told them
CONGRATS !!!
usa cant even win vs 3rd world coutnry...
yes this sounds realy ridiculous..
RIDICULOUS AMERICA
and i can reply why usa use satelit...
why use russian yak 141 project project for F23 since F22 craptor is total faiulr and a great example to show how to waste money... even with the german sink engine..
SibirianHusky 2 years ago
hey hey... dont start talk about planes wich not 100 % madede of american tech...
and also no tanks..
forget your MBT UK armor german gun..
onyl american is the damn motor wich liek the most us crap need a lot of refuil...
that what you puch fight for oil with fake reasons .. like terrors..
RIDICULOUS how poor ppl belive in that
SibirianHusky 2 years ago
Americans white are mixed of all caucasion races including Brits, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, etc. It is not strange that they could build the best. F-22 and F-35 are top fighters now without comparable rival. Not even Su-37 could match these 2. Russia developing PAK-FA would need to reverse engineer from sole F-117A wreckage shot down in Serbia. Mig-1.44 is failed stealth ATF. I see that current US planes and their weapons performed good. Russia fought badly in Chechnya and Afghanistan
taekarkung 2 years ago
they do have to reverse engineer since they are already aware of the physics behind it
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Бессмертная музыка. William Barber rocks.
XiuXiuGirl 2 years ago
@XiuXiuGirl
Idiot, its Sam Barber and he was one of the best in the 20th century, this version of this song sucks bad though.
shaftster2001 2 years ago
um, just a question, is russia part of NATO?
TheDeViLlIeR1 2 years ago
nope. russia is part of CIS though
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
ok, thanks
TheDeViLlIeR1 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
Wow, talk about a no nothing no it all.
Bernancke is on his way out for sure
The US dollar stopped declining over a year ago, at 1.61 v. poundsterling and 1.41 v the euro.
Russia still does borrow, the whole world runs on debt, period. Name one country that has no debt, and prove it... exactly
Finally, you're in the phillipines, where would the philipines be without US capitalism? Alot of our clothing and electronics are manufactured there.
shaftster2001 2 years ago
Without us, you would not have the windows based computer you're on, or the internet, or youtube which are all products of america. I know its trendy to hate the US but don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Envy is a bitch,
shaftster2001 2 years ago
@shaftster2001
SERIOUS ???
so plz stop using SATELIT !!!
stop ussing italian german uk awepons caus your owns sux...
USA can only lie steal and give faith into dump brainwashed ppl
ww1/ww2/vietnam/iraq...
nothing to add
9/11 not bad ^^
SibirianHusky 2 years ago
envy? with that amount of debt?! no thanks
no wait. . .
sure, I ENVY the US economy. having the largest debt is QUITE an achievement, doncha think?
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
US economy will rise & its dollar shall strengthen this year onwards. They are preparing to compete in global economy in full force with lots of new products & services including challenging Japs like how it did in WW2 battle. This time, it is economic war. Russians want to join or just hide & give lame excuse like the country is too cold with thick ice preventing economic growth?
taekarkung 2 years ago
US economy is very very delicate due to the lack of a gold standard... No one can predict its behaviour in open market... So, get ur ass back to middle school... come back when u have at least an undergrad in Finance, like me...
pogularocky 2 years ago
There r several countries without debt... Qatar is one... Turkey is another... Switzerland is another... want me to go on?
pogularocky 2 years ago
by the way, the dollar gets its value from trade value in international exchange... 65% of this exchange value comes from the Oil industry... because Opec uses the dollar for its sales... If Opec alone pulls out and starts dealing in Euros, the dollar value will drop by 30% and then the stock market will crash, pulling the value further down by at least another 10%... 40% decline in currency would mean insane inflation... Kaboom... economical collapse... just like USSR in the 90s.
pogularocky 2 years ago
it's the main reason why the american forefathers got rid of the british banking system. a monetary system that doesn't rely on gold standard creates dishonest spending.
the only reason why euro is dropping is because they had to bail out greece.
like i said before, there's a big difference between being able to pay debt and not being able to pay debt and had to rely on a ponzi financial scheme.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
and for the record, the US economy isn't genuine capitalist since it bailed out companies that SHOULD have failed in the first place for having terrible assets.
while there seems to be minute short term recovery, it will inevitably have long term corrections since a federal reserve system only generates devaluation when no standard is regularly purchased to balance it. just look at china and india. their economies are bullish since they are the largest purchasers of gold and china being the
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
largest producer of gold.
as you can, the oil price isn't declining even if the demand is low. why? this is to balance the volatility of the dollar asset in the long term period because if it didn't it's considered a liability.
while the dollar DID stop declining last year(december), this is due to the january effect where people sell assets to avoid paying more tax and creates a "virtual" recovery. if you will notice the january 4 graph, it started declining again which is the anticipated
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
correction that smart traders will expect. besides, yen and yuan has been bullish all year long.
in case you will mention that china stopped "growing", it was intentional as to prevent sector bubbles albeit favor stability over growth.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
just an interesting update. treasury dept. sold 10 billion USD 1-month bills at 0% investment rate.
see how desperate they are
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
pro tip: stock up on sugar ;)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
oh wow, after greece, portugal is on the default firing squad. good thing we have commodities to spend on :D
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy song?
AirborneSoviet 2 years ago
adagio for strings remix
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
US capitalism?! they invest in asia because they want to escape american "capitalism"
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Sukhoi T-50 made its first flight and announced to public!! Headline in yahoo news!! Looks like Raptor + more tentacles behind like octopus. Air intake seems quite big to be stealthy
taekarkung 2 years ago
perhaps you meant the black widow II but with a vertical tail and movable LERX. also, the intake duct is offset vertically instead of laterally.
larger intakes are more desirable in order to be stealthy in X/Ku/L band just like the wide B-2 intake(note: 1+ m)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Hi friend, YF-23 & B-2 air intake are wide in terms of width but higher in terms of height. PAK-FA T-50's air intake is wide and high perhaps they wanted it to be Mach 2.2 capable. Main reason why it copies F-22 is to play safe that its stealth won't be compromised as certain angle and perspectives are required to keep it stealthy besides having layer of stealth panels. I guessed they roughly managed to analyzed the material content and ingredient used in F-117's stealth panel
taekarkung 2 years ago
well, M=2.6 is the industry requirement for the PAK-FA so it's good solution
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
hope u didnt mean that serious loool...
FUCK NATO
gay couple
alone to weak
SibirianHusky 2 years ago 2
@SibirianHusky were u tlking abt my question if russia was part of NATO?
TheDeViLlIeR1 2 years ago
if Russia was part of NATO then there's no need for it. TBH, it shouldn't exist since the end of the cold war.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
no way,,,
ussr russia is a poor country,,,
why ussr russia make too many arms weapons for,,,
ussr russia use 2 american computers
bestamerica 2 years ago
not really. russians are just financially responsible. they don't spend stuff out of debt
if russians use 2 american computers, boeing uses tons of titanium imported from the urals. doesn't prove much doesn't it?
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
okay saint,
ussr russia did borrow loan alot of billions currency yens from japan,,,
why do that for
bestamerica 2 years ago
because they can pay for it without relying on devaluating their own currency to the point where it becomes toilet paper.
you see there's a big difference between taking loans which you're able to pay and taking loans which you can't and have to resolve to ponzi monetary scheme.
another big difference is that while russia borrowed billions, on the other hand US borrowed trillions; but while russians did borrow cash, they have a positive account balance while the US is at the bottom of the list
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
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Denise73476 2 years ago
What is the music?
Mmaesstrro 2 years ago
adagio for stings remix
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Thanks
Mmaesstrro 2 years ago
pazhalsta comrade ;)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
But back to topic.
A. Zelin has a bit of a credibility problem methinks.
uberteknik 2 years ago
i know, i've been dying to see a picture of the pak-fa, though the closest thing to the actual take off is the taxi trials
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
I don't mind it. I find it entertaining ;)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@gotohell11
HAHAHAA no matter how weak you think the dollar is, it is still worth 30x more than the russian ruoble.
For every 1000 rubles, they are only worth 33 dollars!!! HAHAHAHA ive wiped my ass with paper worth more than the rouble
and we weren't talking about how much total debt. You said that no country has a debt % of 214 or more, and i corrected you. YOU FAILED.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
i will be sending you the link, since you think that the highest % of debt is japan with 214...
Britain is 365% in debt, Netherlands is 352% in debt, ireland is 960% in debt, belgium is 348% in debt.
you see how much you FAAAAAAAIL????
I will be sending you the url.
Oh, and japan is only 34% in debt, so you are wrong again.
like i have said, we have been in debt since our birth, and yet we have remained the strongest country in the world. Debt means nothing.
We grew by 2% last year too.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
U MAD?
if debt meant nothing then why is dubai and greece economically struggling? the only way the US kept on its feet(barely) is because of endless money printing which is only good on a short term basis. hell, we might even see whole countries go on default this year. the way traders see it, it's smarter to invest in gold(non physical ofc)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
you seem to forget that our "debt" is because of a trade deficiency with china. The reason being is that their currency is trash compared to ours, hence the trade DEFICIENCY.
This is all changing because the u.s. is urging the chinese government to raise their currency value, which in turn would let go of our debt to china.
This doesn't mean that we are in trouble. This doesn't mean that America is going bankrupt.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
"i feel so bearish with our ponzi economy"
fixed
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
good job blocking me you weak pussy
andrewm153351 2 years ago
oh, i just realized that. you should know i only block spam mail and/or big walls of text.
also
"good job shutting my mouth coz it's hurting my ego"
fixed
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
wow. you seem to have a control problem. you like to twist sentences to your favor. Were you picked on at school or something?
At the end of the day, the u.s. is the richest country on earth, which also happens to have the strongest military in the world by far. This you cannot deny, unless you are physically blind,deaf, and mute.
Sure, i might have a big ego, but being that i am American, i have every right to ;)
andrewm153351 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
ponzi economy? what, are you angry because you don't live in such a flourishing country? People all over the world come to America for a better future. More than any other country. But i guess their all wrong though right?
andrewm153351 2 years ago
me angry? I'm actually enjoying this discussion. You see the problem is that you are overlooking the transition of the US economy from a creditor to a debtor nation. What you also missed is, like what GTH11 mentioned, is the total debt of the US where you just overshadowed it with the percent debt vs. GDP, but that's another story. We, however, look on the long term scale. Sure, the US did recover months ago BUT it did came with a huge correction spike.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
re: ponzi economy, try looking into your monetary system. it's printing more money than how much it buys gold standard and the way they spend more and acquire more debt in order to pay previous debt with very minimal interest in government bonds over a 30 year period is a ponzi scheme.
catalyzed ofc with the credit and housing bubble and voila
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
overshadowed by %??? that is what means EVERYTHING. If we are only 90% in debt, and other countries are 300%+ in debt, then obviously we are better of than them.
Britain alone is $12 trillion in debt, which means they are around 376% in debt, and yet i don't see anyone complaining about them.
The same with many other countries in europe. And like i said, our debt comes from a trade deficiency. We are deliberately bringing down the value of the $ to get rid of debt.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
well you see the problem with that is that the rapid inflation of $, which is the international medium of exchange, is that it deviates from "normal" capitalism. instead of letting the system fail on its own, though it soon would, they just just prolong the problem with bailouts and monetary schemes. Sure, the UK has plenty of debt but pound sterling failed decades ago and learned to be more conservative when it comes to finance whereas the US just continues with its spending spree
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
within the last couple of months the $ has risen, and is continuing to rise. The inflation problem is old news.
Plus, britain has almost as much debt as the u.s., and we make OVER 5x as much as them!
andrewm153351 2 years ago
@andrewm
$12tn? is a tad inaccurate!
Try 10% of that figure 1.2tn or 70% GDP.
That figure includes the UK government purchase of controlling shares in major banks.
The true debt figure is much lower since the net worth of assets now owned by the UK government globally are not declared in the national debt accounts.
With the global economy now showing signs of returning to growth, watch out for those asset values to rise substantially.
uberteknik 2 years ago
i dunno, i tend to put my faith on commodities. dollar as an asset is just very plain volatile
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
??? the debt of a country is determined in the same way as all other countries. britain is no exception. I will be sending you the url.
plus, an average American makes more than an average british person.
Lets hear the excuses......
andrewm153351 2 years ago
oh, it is actually 9 trillion, but it is still over 365% of brtiains gdp. Plus, the debt per capita in britain is 3x as much as in America.
Oh, and the u.s. also has a higher growth rate than britain.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
it is like that for the circumstance that both countries are economically different, US having more resources and man power over the smaller country which is UK but on the other hand, UK's assets are mainly found elsewhere.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
you are hilariously trying to cloud the uk's debt by irrelevant topics. At the end of the day, the uk is 365% in debt, whether it be from assets or not.
And even without our superior numbers, and resources, we still dominate over little britain. Our Military tech is unrivaled. If anyone could compare to the u.s., it would be russia, and they are still far behind.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
china would be a better contender to be honest since their average R&D is about 5 years
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
china's tech is in no way comparable to russia's tech, which is also far away from being the standard of u.s. tech.
China basically just buys russian stuff,and upgrades it. they don't come up with good stuff by themselves.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
well, as far as china's concerned, their recent planes are R&D'd domestically and they do have ridiculously good air defences
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
i don't know what you are talking about because over 2/3rds of china's aircraft inventory is still j-7's. And if you don't know what a j-7 is i advise you to google it. They are no match even for our 2-3 generation aircraft. BTW, we are now in our 5th generation of aircraft(f-35, and f-22)
they still only spend less than 1/6th on their military, and they have a lot of soldiers, so they have to spend most of it just on taking care of them
andrewm153351 2 years ago
you have no idea what they're developing with pakistan then.
also, they don't need to spend too much on the military because they have no plans on invading anybody and just care about economic development and security
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
developing with pakistan?
whatever you are talking about, it couldn't even compare with America's tech. You have to remember that you need money for R&D, and the u.s. has the most of it by far.
And yes, china does have to use a large chunk of their budget just to feed and clothe their soldiers.
And even without invading 2 countries at once, the u.s still spends far more on military expenditures than china.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
well, things will change soon™
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@andrewm153351
OK understand where your figures came from.
In 2008 the UK reduced the national debt by 20% or $2.2tn.
In contrast, the figures quoted for the US are out of date. The US national debt (1/2010) has now exceeded $17tn.
All of this is meaningless unless adding to a pissing or biggest prick contest, of which the US also wins hands down.
uberteknik 2 years ago
???? even though the uk lowered its debt(only through a stimulas package) it is still 360% in debt. while the u.s. is 90%.
And no, the u.s. is not $17 trillion in debt. Are you insane?
And the u.s. has a higher growth rate than the countries (including britain) in europe(a continent)
andrewm153351 2 years ago
you should also British history, when their "empire" collapsed. But since they've become conservative in their fiscal policies, their economy is now stable though only a shadow of what it was before.
Also, why are you comparing the US with UK when it should be compared with Asia?
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
because "asia" isn't a country. I compare countries you see. The u.s. is almost 3x richer than 2nd place(japan).
There is no denying the fact that the u.s. is the most dominant country in the world by far. We aren't going anywhere. Britain collapsed because it couldn't withstand all of its territories all over the world. This isn't the same with America, we have more money, and less territory to take care of. Our economy is also much more massive than britain's ever was.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
perhaps you've forgotten about all of those military bases, Afghanistan and Iraq. and since the dollar value has dropped, which in turn devaluates dollar assets and increases the value of other monetary assets; I can't see why you're still feeling bullish when the US is on a decline and smart investors are going to Asia(and by Asia, I meant China, Singapore, Japan, India, Korea, et al.). I mean, nobody's even interested in buying US bonds with their near zero rates(except for China)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
wow i can't believe you woud say this. First of all, the dollar USED to be in decline, and in the past couple of monthes it has gone up. And the u.s. economy is definitely not in decline, that was only for like one year. Now, the u.s growth rate is growing even faster than all of the countries in the eu combined. The IMF predicts that our growth rate will go back to its usual 4-5% in the near near future. And 4-5% is a lot for $14.4 trillion
andrewm153351 2 years ago
USD is still in decline. that dollar recovery was halted when bernancke gave his infamous speech just last month which gave a huge correction in the forex(which in turn gave huge smiles for traders :D)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
i will be sending you the url
bernake doesn't know what he is talking about. Either that, or he is trying to send the NYSE in to a frenzy as usual.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
that is mainly due to the "January effect". see nice juicy numbers in January 4 :D
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
yes, American investors are stocking up on Asian bonds too. And our bonds still aren't bad, being the most in the world. And you have to remember that over 65% of the world's foreign exchange balance is in dollars.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
the only reason why they're lending america is to get rid of their dollar asset
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
get rid of the dollar asset? are YOU SERIOUS? if the dollar disappeared right now, china, and most other countries in the world would go completely bankrupt. They are still buying dollars as we speak. And like i have said, the dollar value is rising.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
well, they'd just sell them and exchange for either T-bills/T-bonds or gold and could just literally buy the US
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
also while foreign debt is at $ 13 trillion, the sum government and private sector debt (with contingent liabilities) is at *drumroll please* a whopping $ 117 trillion.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
@saintkatanalegacy
bitch please. The public debt (officially) is 12 trillion. not 117. You must be out of your damn mind. The u.s. alone has almost $200 trillion in residential, etc etc etc assets.(the most in the world)
And the u.s. is not as much % in debt as most countries in the eu.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
I'm not out of my mind. In fact, those 117 trillion USD is owed to the federal reserves, existing banks that are no longer considered safe and other banks that have gone bankrupt due to bad assets.
13 trillion is just the foreign public debt.
also, I thought you're not comparing the US to regions yet you're now comparing it to the EU.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
no, i said the COUNTRIES in the eu, not eu in whole. Learn to read.
"January effect".....lol....you lie, and then when i prove you wrong, you say its the "January effect"...lol...
and like i have said, the u.s.(citizens) hold over 200 trillion in assets, and this is WHILE we are in recession. Imagine when our economy turns around(as it is doing now, and as it has done in the past)
andrewm153351 2 years ago
a lie? it's been observed for almost a century now. you can even check it on investopedia or wikipedia or even ask any trader if you want to. stocks and assets rallied on January 4 and is continuing to grow this week.
the thing is, whenever there's a currency rally, expect a huge correction. but if you want a less twitchy graph(boring trading) go for oil which has near linear increments.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
usa owes FA to no one the Fed OWES usa plenty the enemy within who fucked america up THE MONEY MASTERS will shock u at the extent they rob usa daily, i hate us foreign policy But its dictated to you by your masters 23rd Dec 1013 all Chr. congressmen went home for Xmas 2 non Chr voted for the fed us put $20M to start the bank banks can loan out 10X what they have loaned themselfs $200 Bought 90% share with FA the start of the greatet deception in human history commited against my ppl Pres.Wilson
polygamous1 2 years ago
the russians will never be able to build a fighter that is better than ours(American)
we have too much money. In fact, the u.s. spends 17x more than russia in military expenditures.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
@andrewm153351
o yes we can never built jets like US with a flyaway cost per jet is $356 million and project cost $65 billion time frame 25 years.
cheers
america is a rock and you are bolder
01captjack 2 years ago
"we have too much debt money"
fixed that for you
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
you imbecile, America has been in debt since it's birth, and that has nothing to do with our economy. In fact, while we are 90% in debt, there are other countries(many other countries) that are 300%+++ in debt. That is just a part of capitalism.
Regardless of our debt, we still have an income that is unrivaled. We bring in $14.4 trillion a year. Russia only brings in 1.6 trillion a year. So even without debt, America is like a king, and russia is like a peasant.
andrewm153351 2 years ago
the pilot is about to leave the picture. and beam weapons, loitering drones with hypersonic speed are coming, along with ever deadlier SAM systems.
stybarrow 2 years ago
imho, not just yet since drones in full autonomy is still in question though direct energy weapons are in existence but the problem is that it needs a light enough reactor or capacitor which would otherwise compromise agility.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
This thing looks like a 6th generation! I do still think that even sixth generation will have a pilots! My opinion is based on current UAV's and all the advances made in the UAV industry so far... none of them is capable of fighting 360 war! 7th generation will definitely be pilot-less!
Dalmatian28 2 years ago 3
continued... tr3-b produced "distortions" in gravity and time however it wasnt 100% efficient. meaning it had a big antigravity ceterfuge therofluid engine but only covered 70% of its structure when we speak of it's total weight.long story short it cant envelope the whole craft for it to jump from point to point,but was promising and later different size engines were developed and "hick-up" was born in 97/98. he told me and i quote "we did Buck Rogers a long timeago". hope this helped a little.
vizcaya7 2 years ago
Yes it helped, thank you. Don't want to exceped the idea of never seeing a Huge! fleet of TR3s ( pore me ) boo hoo LOL! From the evedence i have seen, i am, was pretty sure the TR3s were being built in numbers? 10 or more?? Have you seen the several sst missions with the so called ufos that have TR3 ritten all over them?? anyway i am pestering you LOL! sorry and thanks.
1x8twist 2 years ago
your not bothering me, hey the number one rule in goverment spending is" why build one,when you can build 10 at 10 times the price" lol. and your correct on the nembers,theres got to be at least a dozen to 18 operating around the world but will be replaced by hick-up. im sure they will be around for a long long time . hit me up anytime im sure we can exchange all kinds of interesting things on projects.have a good x-mass
vizcaya7 2 years ago
Thanks brother mary x-mass i have a vid i would like to send you to check out, maybe you have seen it? anyway real cool and would like to know what you think?
P.S thanks for not beating my brains out for the bad spellen LOL!
1x8twist 2 years ago
no problem,yeah send it bro
vizcaya7 2 years ago
Hay vizcaya7 I see you responded to the vid i sent you, thanks, but i can't seem to open the response to read what you think about the video, DAM! I am new to this + i am using a ps3 to send and reseve mail. It looks like i can send mail but when i click on reseved mail it won't open the re page. I have tried and tried to fix it but all i seem to be able to do is mess somthing els up. I will keep at it to try and fix it????
1x8twist 2 years ago
Lousy presentation! Feel like being cheated.
rissneman 2 years ago
it's funny how russians "claim" this hi tech superiority , this has been goin on since the cold war. the bottom line is they cant afford it. russians wait in line for bread and the navy cant fuel up it's ships..give me a break.
D.A.R.P.A /AirForce /Lochead Martin had a stealth prototype flying in 1972. it is now almost 2010 and russia still has pictures.
Skunkworks.D.A.R.P.A USAF & National Recon Office = the TR3-B project nuff said
vizcaya7 2 years ago
hahahah nice answer!!!
CardsharpPro 2 years ago
thank you. tired of the bullshit
vizcaya7 2 years ago
Vizcay7 you have been paying attention. The TR3s are coming out of there testing faze that started in the erly 80s and are now being produced in numbers and are even capable of space flight operations. When do you think thay will unvail or disclose the TR3s??????? I am thinking 2015 at best, i hope im wrong, i CAN'T WAIT! that dam long.
1x8twist 2 years ago
my fathers retired now and his best friend and a personel friend of our family was in Navy Intelagence and worked at the Pentagon,and the part that really matters here is he was one of many liaisons between goverment and Top Secret R&D programs. his job was to go to these sites,evaluate the project and recomend further funding,progression to next phase aplacation,testing,prototype,then full scale production. he did this for about 34 yrs so i have 2nd hand knowledge, long story. hit me back
vizcaya7 2 years ago
So i guess you don't have any idea when? they will disclose the TR3s???
How about your best guess.
1x8twist 2 years ago
i sent you a reply but sont know what happened.
ans. NEVER,sorry the ramificationa are way to hi,it would acknowledge an almost 100% clean burning engine and fuel that was developed in the late 70's,with everything goin on it would raise too many questions,it will b cancelled bcuz it's the little brother project of a much bigger one. "hick-up" tr3-b was the reserch platform. Auroa will be b4 2020 but will be called another name but by then it's a 35yr old plane. see the pattern here? hit mebk
vizcaya7 2 years ago
your probably right, i understand the way they think as well, they sure are teasing the hell out of us with it. Is hick-up the star ship?? I have not herd much about it. Aurora is impresive and will replace the shuttle i think? Aurora is like yesterdays tec if you know what i mean, no disrespect and im glad my tax dollers go to thoughs projects but i want to see the holy grail of flight! Any good info on hick-up out there??
1x8twist 2 years ago
on "hick-up" this was told to me before my fathers friend died of leukaemia 3 yrs ago. "hick-up" is a program of crafts that very in size with different tasks. recon & intel gathering, global strike capability in any airspace and non atmosheric operations. from what he told me was this craft doesnt fly around like what we would think.instead it jumps from one area to another,but at very long long ranges,this system will be developed to work "off planet" as well. tr3-b had potentail 4 "hick-up"
vizcaya7 2 years ago
Comparing usa technology's steaths against Russia is like if usa were alredy in the century 18 Just 'couse Russia is so advanced that put's usa in the past
For this reasons:
*the working class in the United States of America are poorly paid
*us government is very poorly advised
*the information service of usa is umprepared and composed of corrupt bandits
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INACIOARTEPRODUCOES 2 years ago
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So Russia is more advanced than USA in aircraft? Seems other way around but whatever! Maybe tell to Russian who came to USA and help create stealth and other things.
I never saw Russian stealth fighter or bomber yet, let me know where it is since Russia is much more advanced in this area.
OlderG0ds 2 years ago
ditto
vizcaya7 2 years ago
hahahaha... Man we're going down! :(
Our govermant gives not enough for a fuel, for airforce!
ipiZmaj86 2 years ago
well, there's still those helium balloons ;)
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
You're apsolutly fuckin' right, my friend!!
I'm looking forward for those amazing balloons... :)
ipiZmaj86 2 years ago
lol, that would be like WW1 mk. 2 XD
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
I wonna buy one!! I'm saving some money :) Can you give some discount for
your Serbian brothers?
Russia 4ever!!!
ipiZmaj86 2 years ago 3
isn't serbia getting SMT's already? >.>
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Sebia bought MIG-29SMT? My country just sold off its entire fleet of MIG-29N(S variant 4 export) Fulcrum C except 2 trainers MIG-29UB replaced by Su-30MKM probably they knew MIG-29S/N is inferior to US existing fighters due to less avionics, capable radar and payload. MIG-29SK/M/SMT/OVB onwards only on par with western fighters.
taekarkung 2 years ago
well, they need something to replace their existing fleet ASAP. would take a while for them to acquire the MiG 35.
re: Su-30MKM, they do have a better range which would be more suited to Malaysia's needs because of the larger intercept/strike coverage.
The MiG-29 on the other hand is evolving into a standard naval fighter.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
All Warsaw Pact countries & Russia will need to concentrate on building up economy b4 they could rebuild their military. All these countries should form new East EU in global trade. Perhaps Russia could market their newly modified to latest trend goods in these countries to build up ground and at the same time all will prosper. MIG-29SMT & Su-27M onwards will require higher maintenance cost due to more avionics and new AESA/PESA radars involved. Unlike MIG-29S and Su-27 Flanker A/B
taekarkung 2 years ago
As far as I know ... nope!
You know if that is true I would see them flying :-)
aeromodelar 2 years ago
Reminds me of the CFA-44 Nosferatu
Gripen90 2 years ago
it looks like a SR-71 mixed with a F-14
RCpilotShadow74808 2 years ago
these russian facists bastards are to stupid ass to even comprehend what stealth technology is,i assure you they are not even close to perfecting something like this,and will not even years from now
gamerexpertman2 2 years ago
to gamerexpertman2: Are you drunk? Go and play your games, stupid US nazi.
MajorDumai 2 years ago
dude what the hell,im not drunk,and i support the US completely, alot of people dont like our nice little russian neighbors,s who cares,just cool it,
gamerexpertman2 2 years ago
hence, you are too biased and make baseless conclusions. You should know that edge diffraction was theorized by a russian.
saintkatanalegacy 2 years ago
Major Dumai, do you want to comment on Russia getting involved in domestic goods and compete in global economy so that Russian people could prosper and live with high buying power like US, Japan and West European?
taekarkung 2 years ago