Weber Mass 100 Attenuator Demo into a Marshall Plexi

[Eraj1979]

Hi,

I have a Crate Blue Voodoo BV120. Its 120 Watts RMS. What attenuator can I use with it? How many watts etc? I am looking at a Marshall PB100 which is 100 watts. Will that work? Do you know any cheaper ones?

Cheers

[panuelo87]

attenuator in the effects loop?

[jewrappic]

@panuelo87 No, the output from the amp head that goes to the SPEAKER is intercepted by the attenuator, not in the fx loop.

[SuperHotrod4]

@jewrappic What year, model and watts is your plexi, I never owned one but it sounds GREAT!

[jewrappic]

@SuperHotrod4 don't know the year but it's a splawn modded plexi. Gotta get it modded!

[LesterPaul01]

That can't be healthy for your amp. You must spend some doe on tubes. The tone is to me, sounds splattery. direct drve with the gain at 930 and my twin at volume 6, game over. Rock on.

[TheGuitarjerry1126]

Question: What is the difference between the weber mass lite by THD and the regular THD Hot Plate? I use the blue THD with my JCM Marshall 200 "TSL 100 head" and 1960 slant cab and either a Strat or a Les Paul guitar. Is there anything different about this Weber THD and the THD Hot Plate that I am using? Very curious to know. My Marshall head has a lead channel, crunch channel and a clean channel that I can use with the THD. I would really like to know if there is any diff between the two.

[JBL8863]

I used a Marshall power brake with a 120 watt Bugera 1960 head and it worked great...The head broke after attempting a bias on the tubes...my bad

I sold the head cheapp as is and now use a 50 watt tube head by Soldano...No need for an attenuator when your using 50 watts tube...Loud enough to power a full stack but not nearly as over kill loud as the Bugera 1960 with 4 power tubes.

My advice to anyone shopping for a tube amp, don't buy a 100 watts or more unless you own a attenuator

[ManuelBetten]

If you turn the volume up on the amp and the attenuator is turned down where does all the extra electricity go?

[Alekseriator]

@ManuelBetten it becomes heat.

[bscfo1]

Nice tone, very thick. Do you have the channels jumped, or is that gain all coming from the power section?

[FingerLickinGravy67]

@bscfo1 I dont think there are any amps that have just all power tube distortion, theres always gona be preamp and phase inverter gain in there with it, but any power valve saturation just makes everything so freakin sweet....oh maybe except the orange rocker 30 were they sumehow designed the clean channel to not get any pre gain but all power gain.

[jewrappic]

@bscfo1 all the gain is from the amp, no channels jumped.

[DoubleMac51]

Hey, I had a mesa boogie and a line 6 flex.

I gave the flex away. Ha Ha

I still have to hear it though. (gave it to my brother)

I'm definitly getting on of these for the boogie.

[LyteWave]

Ha. I was like... Nice Line 6, loser..... Glad you have a sense of humor, and thanks for the demo.

[charles1967]

"The wall would come down... I'd be dead."

*lol*

[jks2]

haha i like this dude!

[lhodgson999]

Hi, what do you use the Flextone for?

[jewrappic]

Long gone. Never bonded with the Line 6 sound

[usefulcoin]

Hey look! It's Gary Busey!

[jewrappic]

I look like gary busey? Cool!

[usefulcoin]

j/k this is kinda funny though!

"this is....a roll of tape"

lmfao!

[skullkap1]

Nice demo and playing!

[69strathead]

are u running a gain boost pedal as well?

[jewrappic]

nope, straight in.

[luigiperso]

too much coffee....

[goerge4]

funny dude.. i guess he was pretty hyperactive when he was young..but smart

[cfiiman1]

LOL, this was Awesome, "Sweet tones that I normally would otherwise.......I would die..." LOLOLOL, thanks for the great vid!

[busteroo7]

funny but wrong

[zikaj]

I don't understand. Why screw around w/ that attenuator & those old amps? Just turn that archaic stuff off and plug into that Line 6 right in front of you. You can get the EXACT SAME TONE AS A CRANKED MARSHALL 100w - but @ any level you want. Tubes belong in your grandfather's TV, not in your amplifier.

At least thats what the 19 year old at that big music store that centers on guitars told me... LOL

Great video. Amp & playing sounds great. Thanks for a great vid.

[artistamagnifica]

Thanks!

There's no better expert on tone than a 19 y/o working at a large music chain. The Line 6 in the video is now, sadly gone. No more cranked marshall sound at bedroom volume. damn.

[datdude717]

hahaha that kid is an idiot. i have both solid state amps and tube amps. a marshall jcm 800 zakk wylde a spider 3 combo. also a peavey valve king 112 combo. and the difference in tone is like night and day. for practice yeah a solid state is cool cuz you can distortion at low volumes. but when it comes to tone for recording or live. cant beat the nuance that you get from tubes man. smoother and more articulate distortion that you can control with your volume knob and picking dynamics.

[RobSweeneysMusic]

wow I thought you were serious. I thinks thats why you have like 4 thumbs down, because people probably didn't finish reading lol

[mortald]

Love the video. I have an old music man that I wanna do some home recording with. Anyone know of an attenuator that also has a balanced line out? I'd like to record the amp di and mic the speakers at a lower (apartment level) volume. Thanks.

[taylorwest08]

Yes, the 'Ultimate Attenuator'

[twirlyboggs]

one thing to mess around for a few seconds, but try playing a whole song in front of a 100W ALL TUBE amp cranked with 1 OR 2 4-12" CABS - you will know what he's talkin' bout

i tried it one day with a full stack with a 100W tube dimed-

one of those things i will never forget

[SpiffyPunx]

wow, dissing on one of the best affordable amp companies around, that makes their shit in THE USA. my BV120 rocks the shit out of any Marshall MG piece of solid state sacrilege out there, and they're in the same price range. old people suck

[jewrappic]

Yes, I'm sure you just NAIL the Meshugguah tone. And if you'd actually look at the video, you'd see that I'm using a 1987x not an MG. Idiot.

Old people suck, but at least we can afford REAL amps.

[metaljorgo]

ooo yeahh we will die!! and ill buy a weber attenuator for my peavey windsor, have you heard about this amp?, i think is very cool for the money tell me what you think

[ESPsandEmgs]

Right on brother!

How quiet can this webber mass get?

I am looking to get a Engl powerball or an Splawn nitro but would like to be able to play it at very low volumes. in my bed room, would this be something I could achieve?

[SwampAshHSS]

@ESPsandEmgs probably have to get a speaker emulator with built in load to get anything that can be considered "quiet".

[MaxKamer]

that's why you don't get a MG. get a DSL or, better yet, this mans amp.

TUBE > SOLID STATE.

save your money man. you will NOT regret it

[SpiffyPunx]

@MaxKamer

lol exactly

[stratboy1972]

@SpiffyPunx lol blue voodoos are shit, I've already gone through two of them, some of the most unreliable amps out there. My 1977 JMP50 is not only almost fourty years old, but also has been through so much shit and still sounds good. lol

if you're some loser playing a crate...

[hvrock13]

@stratboy1972 If it's a 1977, its only 33 years old. That isn't almost 40, just thought I'd throw that out there.

[FingerLickinGravy67]

the mass ones have a speaker coil n shit n spose to spound more natural then like most resistor atentuaters

[nycalling72]

It will affect your tone a bit, but if you play with the amp settings and so forth, you can get a really great tone. Despite the poster's words, I don't think you will die.

Oh, and Crate sucks. I don't care who plays it, or endorses it.

[tiddlywinks98712]

is it effectively a 'non-tone altering' master volume knob that u simply connect into the amp then? if so thats INCREDIBLE and i will definately get one for home studio use

[earll2001]

Dude, I hope you randomly shouted out an amp. I think all these guys would be really upset that you called them loser.

Al Jourgensen

Billy F. Gibbons

Bobby Adams

C.C. DeVille

 Fletcher Dragge

Jerry Douglas

Joe Walsh

John Hiatt

Mark Knopfler

[nycalling72]

A power soak is basically a attenuator.

[Rhyneer]

Is this the same as a power soak?

[jws2]

I luv watching this it gives me a chuckle but I don't listen too loud because I'm afraid to DIE!!!! :-)

[jewrappic]

They may not make the black anymore, but if you do a search for mass 100 pictures, you'll see the black version, which mine is.

[jewrappic]

Yes, I'm sure it's not a Mass Light.

[ptmusic1106]

so if I have a 71 twin (100 watts) I should be getting the weber 200 of the weber 100?

[jewrappic]

definately the 200.

[davo171]

I picked up a weber mini mass 50 for my Hot Rod Deluxe this week,  IT ROCKS!

Best tone Ive ever had period.

[jewrappic]

Good move. You'll not regret it.

[RythmTR]

i test my 100watts attenuator with my jtm45 clone, it sound awesome but with their treble boost 6db option its not enough. i disconnected the attenuator to hear if it have a difference between direct to speakers or with the bypass option of the weber mass, its sad but it sound better without the attenuator. its a good help to get distortion from old tubes amp like marshall plexi but this is as good as a thd hotplate or a master volume. also the power tubes need to be changed faster.

[FingersFitzy]

Hi there,

Is your Weber a 100, Theres a stereo black type and a red 100 also, I have a 1987x head and don't know which one to go for?

Regards, fitzy

[jewrappic]

Hi Fitzy,

yep, it's a Weber Mass 100. They suggest getting an attenuator that's 1.5 to 2 times the wattage of your amp, hence the 100. I'm not aware of the stereo model but my head is mono. You can't go wrong with the weber.

[bakinblack]

;ID be Dead'....haha thats funny, amusing vid....got a les paul and thinking about getting one of these amps.,...shame u aint playin one on this..

edge

[andrewt248]

Weber attenuators rule for those of us who dig on output tube saturation.

[jewrappic]

Well said.

[guitargenius66]

That is hilarious dude...

[alexcaporuscio]

LOL