ever since the junior high i always wondered what that track was in the back. its a decade and a half later and i still haven't figured it out... does anyone know what it is?
@Hitscam@joeysolo - I had the same pain too. Where was it from?? searched for a long time - youtube came out and some blessed life posted it on utube. search wu tang st ides commercial
what are Wu's songs mostly about? I'm getting into them and I just want to know what their messages are because I got Liquid Swords and I'm getting Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and also 36 chamber so I want to know what they rap about, hopefully it's meaningful.
Ok, in this track Raekwon mentions the name Kion, as in "Kion gagged his mouth" and "Kion's wife Kenya", "ordered my crystal twice, Kion chill". My question is who is he talking about. That name is mentioned in a lot of Wu-Tracks. Am I just being dumb? Is it one of there alises?
man, what a classic album. when i first got it "Ice Water" was my favorite track, then i found myself listening to "Knowledge God" the most. now i think this is my fav track. It really shows his vocab and story telling. crazy
what is that badass song playing in the begging of the song, the song playing that they are talking over. i have wonder that for over ten years now and still havn't figured it out. it sounds so raw. please anybody know?
Sweet tunes i`m 13 but honestly i think some of you should stop dissing the mainstream music now . It's still 'music' and should be appreciated . Even if it is really bad .
@illesDC its actually a rhyme the wu did back in 93 for a st. ides commercial its a dope song but really short.. Search wutang St. Ides commercial its at the top
@wcorowitz Im from New Orleans, and put this on- or any wu tang- and this dudes look at me stupid . Not enought real hip hop heads out here, its sad. I loved OB4CL since i was 12.
Check out Ratpackliq's page for hot instrumentals to spit on. Got raw beats for hard MC's and chilled out hip hop to blaze to. Smoke blunts everyday!! -DP
Mann i love the way Wu-Tang kicks off their songs...The Intro is sooo fuccin dopee that i run it at least 20x before i proceed to the song..."My jeans to futuristic 4 that shxt" LOL my man Ghost alwayz keeps it real son
And ending is hilarious "shot his hand he started screaming like a Bitch" Mann when you listen to the old and the new hip-hop u notice so much the new is missing...
i dunno about the actual song name.. but like the last dude said.. its a song they made specially for st ides.. go watch the commercial and u have the WHOLE song.
@stevesk8r umm ya it is... type in "Raekwon - Wisdom Body" & thats the song before this one. I dunno about any St. Ides commercial but i know "wisdom body" was before this one. u can even tell by the baseline.
@stevesk8r actually nevermind lol i was thinkin of the album song at the very beginning. i didnt know yall were talkin about that other song... i clearly hear them say St. Ides in the song but ive never heard the actual version of that song. my mistake lol. i thought yall meant the song thats before this one on the CD...
always wonder, the song in the background,ghost ugod than rza, man i wish i could hear that song,its gotta be somewhere.... its got so much energy and its like we just gonna keep this track between us and talk while we listening to it ,so exclusive,c'mon i wanna hear this shit
Good luck wit that one. I remember in 94 when this came out. Nobody could say where that cut came from. i was kickin it with hella NY cats at that time while in Florida. None of them knew it either.
I never met anyone who ever heard this any place other than this cut.
the song is actually a commercial remember back in the days every rapper was doing a st ides commercial that was one just type in wu tang st ides commercial or somrthing like that it should still be on youtube
im 26 now and this album came out when i was 12. all this main stream dumb shit out now has fogged the minds of the youth. my friends in 6th grade were like.. Whys the tape purple? man i had that whole school reppin Wu back in the day. Yo on the real, if u grew up to this shit right here nigga. This shit right here nigga. then u def got it better than these simple minded young fools grown up today. listening to these Cat in the Hat ass rappers, fucking docter suess mother goose rhymes. Wu 4ever
Naw, you're not the only one. I actually own this album along with many other hip hop classics, even 36 chambers. I wish kids our age could be exposed more to the classics.
dude, i have something like 25 Wu albums in all, counting stuff like Cappa's the pillage and the afro samurai soundtrack. and it's not just the Wu stuff, i can't name five kids i know who have heard of straight outta compton, it takes a nation of millions, paid in full, the chronic, death certificate, illmatic, etc. it's just fucking depressing.
Naw, you can't be serious. There's gotta be at least one 16 year old who knows about Straight Outta Compton. That's like hip hop at its finest. And you have no idea what its like to hear kids my age saying that Lil Wayne's a genius. Now that's fucking depressing.
lol... theres people my age talkin about lil wayne being the best rapper out.... lol no shit... i was like so your tellin my lollypop is a hip hop classic.... fuckin garbage!!!!
haha i know right im 16 its exactly the same. me and my niggas that i chill with are the only ones that got respect for the wu and actual rap, not that wayne or t-pain bullshit.
im 16 and own this album and Wu solo albums and all wu-tang albums. also have many other classic albums from rappers you prolly never heard of lol no disrespect tho
@armykiller123 simple minded young fools? You think we ALL listen to that bullshit? Even if WE did it still doesn't make us "simple minded". Come on, get the fuck outta here man.
@armykiller123 yeah im 20 and i was introduced to wu early on i remember bumping this when kids thought jeezy and yung joc were the futures...... nigggas r stupid lol
What up pusha, man got mushed up!!!
MarianaTrench83 2 weeks ago
ever since the junior high i always wondered what that track was in the back. its a decade and a half later and i still haven't figured it out... does anyone know what it is?
abaebae29 2 weeks ago
@abaebae29 Wu Tang St. Ides Commercial.
Maxipadtriplesix 4 days ago
story tellin rap Magellan
EZP 2 months ago
ST. IDES! ! ! I miss those St. Ides Snakes Eyes drinks.
davidWgruUP909 2 months ago
i remember back in the day before the internet slowly deciphering what the fuck was going on in this slang filled gem... what a fukkin classic
harbourmc 2 months ago
whats the song in the background at the begining??
joeysolo 3 months ago
@joeysolo Not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's from Ironman?
Hitscam 2 months ago
@Hitscam @joeysolo - I had the same pain too. Where was it from?? searched for a long time - youtube came out and some blessed life posted it on utube. search wu tang st ides commercial
congonattybass 2 months ago
@Hitscam i heard it was from a commercial for something...not for wu wear, for some drink or something
zofalipanoka 2 months ago
@Hitscam Guillotine.? ? ? ----- (It is not from Ironman) the song in question.
rowdy8888 2 weeks ago
@joeysolo nah its the wu tang song they did for St. Ides. Look up wu tang St. Ides commercial
themasterbuilder7 2 months ago
this song is beyond dope....
ap2pat 3 months ago
@KryptonDaVillain OB4CL was THE album of the 1990s homie. That shit still rocks like it just dropped.
clutchlace 3 months ago
Man raekwon's voice is way different now.
smhskidd 3 months ago
Raekwon nothing but the Wu's bitch.
KryptonDaVillain 4 months ago
@KryptonDaVillain LOL you're dumb as fuck
BigBrothersWatching2 3 months ago
Dope story-telling
GemSh0t 4 months ago
what album is this in?
xyoungdipsetx 5 months ago
@xyoungdipsetx Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
GemSh0t 4 months ago
line for line, this is how we get down
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what are Wu's songs mostly about? I'm getting into them and I just want to know what their messages are because I got Liquid Swords and I'm getting Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and also 36 chamber so I want to know what they rap about, hopefully it's meaningful.
etk1995 6 months ago
this shit is fukin hott
johnnyreedcrmusic 6 months ago
love this story. siKK. very vivid.
insanemacbeth 6 months ago
what song is playing in the background at the beggining?
crayz745 6 months ago in playlist new mix
what is the intro about not the wu tang st.ides commercial i mean what are they talking about i dont get it
slewage3 6 months ago
The intro song is from their St. Ides liquor commercial from the mid 90's
FunAndFrivolity 6 months ago
"hes not lyin wait for the millenia green" "threw the 9 in his meatloaf" lol
TheMelkManNYKfan 6 months ago
3:00 win!
alexoprel 7 months ago
Do anybody know the song that is playing in the background on the intro?
Mature09 7 months ago
what was song they played in backrpound during intro??
poccnrpride 8 months ago
Ok, in this track Raekwon mentions the name Kion, as in "Kion gagged his mouth" and "Kion's wife Kenya", "ordered my crystal twice, Kion chill". My question is who is he talking about. That name is mentioned in a lot of Wu-Tracks. Am I just being dumb? Is it one of there alises?
Cunt03 8 months ago
5 people got shot and subsequently, screamed like bitches.
lisgod3 9 months ago 7
screw your ads
Christstuffer 9 months ago 3
5 dislikes wtf people dont know real when they hear it.......they'd rather listen to stupid lil Wayne....om odb rollin in his grave....
michellelpn9 9 months ago
Be waitin for my payment
heard the key in the lock
cocked the glock
turned the lights out
Dipped behind the couch
Key on,
Gag his mouth
ZtuoyHardstyles 10 months ago
damn who's the chick??
raekwonyaeyo 10 months ago
4 people got shot in the hand and started screaming like a bitch
v3gadaViRuS 10 months ago
the sound that makes u eleergek
NONFUGAZE 1 year ago
What's that song at the intro where Chef and Ghost are talking?
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man, what a classic album. when i first got it "Ice Water" was my favorite track, then i found myself listening to "Knowledge God" the most. now i think this is my fav track. It really shows his vocab and story telling. crazy
JerZkyd 1 year ago
purple tape forever
tmontanaz44 1 year ago 4
THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS EVER PUT OUT!!!
jayfresh99 1 year ago 3
daaammmnnnn!!!!! Dat bitch da 3:00 minutes was strapped to the T
ssshines 1 year ago
watch?v=zlNlM-0mNx0 thats tha song in tha intro for all y'all that dont know
BUD5MOKA1 1 year ago
My opinion... but I always thought it was Biggie he was rushin up on in the rhyme...
destiny66 1 year ago
@destiny66 supposedly it was,and dats y BIG had dat skit 'da mad rapper' on on life after death album
bkswagg11 1 year ago
whats the song in the background?
kristapsfed 1 year ago
@kristapsfed it was a St.Ides malt liquor commercial they did back in da early 90's
bkswagg11 1 year ago
STOP PLAYING RAE KRUSHING ON THIS TRAX..YAOWA : P
SPIT508 1 year ago
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SPIT508 1 year ago
glad to hear raekwon in the lab making a new album...
twocky90 1 year ago
what is that badass song playing in the begging of the song, the song playing that they are talking over. i have wonder that for over ten years now and still havn't figured it out. it sounds so raw. please anybody know?
CactusAM 1 year ago
@CactusAM its a st. ides commercial
MixThatShitUp 1 year ago
@CactusAM if im right, im prety sure its the song they did for st.ides beer lmaoo
shallah3 1 year ago
Sweet tunes i`m 13 but honestly i think some of you should stop dissing the mainstream music now . It's still 'music' and should be appreciated . Even if it is really bad .
DMwhufc 1 year ago
@DMwhufc this is grown folks rap. noone expects you to understand these rhymes at 13 (even though i did)
uhdope 1 year ago
@DMwhufc why should something bad be appreciated. that makes no sense.
alwerty1 1 year ago
@DMwhufc why would anyone appreciate it if its bad that seriously dosent make sence...
bradbyard94 1 year ago
whats the song playin in the back ground
illesDC 1 year ago
@illesDC its actually a rhyme the wu did back in 93 for a st. ides commercial its a dope song but really short.. Search wutang St. Ides commercial its at the top
Enjoy!
joshgoldbullion 1 year ago
can anyone tell me what the name of the song that goes
"i hit the streets on friday night i gotto roll up something right
audifanzz 1 year ago
im 23 my nigga and 90s rap is my foundation til the day i die and the purple tape is in my top ten albums
elondiaz 1 year ago
@elondiaz Easy old timer :)
mattwu911 1 year ago
whats the song playing in the backround at the beggining?
albert1350 1 year ago
i was so obsessed with them i knew the song in the backround in the beginning, i forgot what was it again?
StreetSurfinn 1 year ago
@StreetSurfinn nvm it was st. ides
StreetSurfinn 1 year ago
when these young heads discover this, it's gonna be like people discovering Jimi Hendrix.
wcorowitz 1 year ago
@wcorowitz Im from New Orleans, and put this on- or any wu tang- and this dudes look at me stupid . Not enought real hip hop heads out here, its sad. I loved OB4CL since i was 12.
frEEturk 1 year ago
does anyone know the joint that they're playing in the background at the beginning of the track?
matthewmercury1 1 year ago
What's the song in the beginning ?
zonaboy602 1 year ago
@zonaboy602 Wu-Tang St Ides Commercial ft Method Man, Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, U-God and Rza!!
GallantSitruc 1 year ago
I'm going to NY at the end of the year, this shit gets me all excited to go.....can't wait!
ufuckfacesonofabitch 1 year ago
i don't know if Cuban Linx was the MOST influential album of the 90s ... but it was close
0056100 1 year ago
as i get older. i realisng more and more that black hiphop is satirical.
like if you see a black pimpin drug dealer rapping holdin his dick and glorifying violence you cant blame him. you still love him.
gooznr1 1 year ago
hahah nice intro
gooznr1 1 year ago
insanity of the streets replaced by the vanity of fake ass niggaz that you meet
MultiDiggs 1 year ago
Whats the song playing in the background in the start of the song?
Pt0WN14 1 year ago 3
@Pt0WN14 its the st. ides commercial wu-tang did.
SedVicious 1 year ago
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@Pt0WN14 the st. ides commercial wu did
SedVicious 1 year ago
@Pt0WN14 Yeah that shit is on crack'n and bangn tha fuck out!!!
I need to know tha same thing...thanksalot...
cen1276 1 year ago
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Check out Ratpackliq's page for hot instrumentals to spit on. Got raw beats for hard MC's and chilled out hip hop to blaze to. Smoke blunts everyday!! -DP
RatPacKliQ 1 year ago
so dope thanks
jokerakarakkoakaloke 1 year ago
whats the song playing in the background at the beginning?
StaticX4Ever420 1 year ago
"That night-up in the staircase-cousin had me laced out-skied all outta my face" Rae was ill as shit....story was vivid.
Sameolg100 1 year ago 2
Mann i love the way Wu-Tang kicks off their songs...The Intro is sooo fuccin dopee that i run it at least 20x before i proceed to the song..."My jeans to futuristic 4 that shxt" LOL my man Ghost alwayz keeps it real son
rapasaurusnyc 1 year ago 2
"Infra-redded his head when he entered"
Omerta3000 1 year ago
i own the the world sun
woodan shan
daisydandy1 1 year ago
1995 SHIT HITTIN
hotblk100 1 year ago
Zilla_Phresh CrapachinoGlambino in tthe fresh casino beotchez !11 smella-fella ? FTW & Wu-Chit-4-eva-eva
zillachix 1 year ago
im listing to every song on this album and every song is really good
joseph561000 1 year ago 4
Intro is priceless
Story telling skills is lovely
And ending is hilarious "shot his hand he started screaming like a Bitch" Mann when you listen to the old and the new hip-hop u notice so much the new is missing...
yungac3 2 years ago 37
@yungac3 love AALLL the purp tape... it brought wu to my heart and has been there since!!!!!! wu 4ever
frazier618 1 year ago 5
@frazier618 i feel you on the purp tape...not to many people got to witness that....
flygunit88 2 months ago in playlist new list
@flygunit88 10 times thumbs up ! for you.
rowdy8888 2 weeks ago
i dunno about the actual song name.. but like the last dude said.. its a song they made specially for st ides.. go watch the commercial and u have the WHOLE song.
Jcrack514 2 years ago
4real wut da fuck is da name of dat song playin in da beginnin in da background.
Number1WuFan 2 years ago
@Number1WuFan
thats what i just came on here to ask too lol
shmayy 2 years ago
good wu fans think alike!!!!! ha
lurch124 1 year ago
@Number1WuFan
its called Wisdom Body
wutaktai 1 year ago
@wutaktai
na its from a st ides commercial wit ghostface
shmayy 1 year ago
@wutaktai i mean thats what we were talkin about
shmayy 1 year ago
@wutaktai lol no its not
stevesk8r 1 year ago
@stevesk8r umm ya it is... type in "Raekwon - Wisdom Body" & thats the song before this one. I dunno about any St. Ides commercial but i know "wisdom body" was before this one. u can even tell by the baseline.
wutaktai 1 year ago
@stevesk8r actually nevermind lol i was thinkin of the album song at the very beginning. i didnt know yall were talkin about that other song... i clearly hear them say St. Ides in the song but ive never heard the actual version of that song. my mistake lol. i thought yall meant the song thats before this one on the CD...
wutaktai 1 year ago
greatness
grenada1time 2 years ago
What's the song playing in the very beginning?
Truekite123 2 years ago
its a song wu tang did for a st. ides commerical
robEls911 2 years ago 23
Rae kills it on this song.
RobotLips 2 years ago 4
when doesnt he??
mastersapprentice69 2 years ago 4
This video reps much of my youth for me..& I still got my lo sweater in my fuckin closet.
kimera808 2 years ago
haha that's a pretty gash lexus in that photo, sick tune and album, one of the best
elsantirey 2 years ago
Best Album Ever!
Wu Tang Forever!
RrrutssS 2 years ago 4
anyone noe the name of the song in the background at the beginning?
madedayoungen 2 years ago
st. ides - wu tang
mctrizzle 2 years ago
"Chips Ahoy"
lol
008fox 2 years ago
I always loved how the St. Ides commercial is in the background
spideymayne 2 years ago 3
Yeah. I remember thinking that track sounded awesome. Took me some time to find it, and it's less than a minute. Still dope, though. :)
mortensteen 2 years ago
this nigga took off on this joint
shakeluga 2 years ago 2
This is some serious cinematic shit.
afrojayjay 2 years ago 3
WHO THE WOMAN IS.
rahquise 2 years ago 2
anyone know what this song is about?
qufinest14 2 years ago
Raekwon is telling a story about a heist.
afrojayjay 2 years ago 3
"it b a line 4 line line 4 line"
dasuncanblind 2 years ago 3
ill ass video
dizyootum 2 years ago
his storytelling abilities are amazing on this song
falconhead67 2 years ago
One fav c.d play song wat times hard .
ApolloBackHand23 2 years ago
always wonder, the song in the background,ghost ugod than rza, man i wish i could hear that song,its gotta be somewhere.... its got so much energy and its like we just gonna keep this track between us and talk while we listening to it ,so exclusive,c'mon i wanna hear this shit
Kriegasaurus 2 years ago
Wu Tang's St. Ides commercial. Type that in and hit the search button.
cameronsearcy 2 years ago
Good luck wit that one. I remember in 94 when this came out. Nobody could say where that cut came from. i was kickin it with hella NY cats at that time while in Florida. None of them knew it either.
I never met anyone who ever heard this any place other than this cut.
But...if you run across it hollar at me.
himmaggin 2 years ago
yeah wu tang st ides commercial
qufinest14 2 years ago 2
yeah i know it went hard
moblackqb31 2 years ago
yeah i got it now
moblackqb31 2 years ago
aight coll but it should had been a song
whathappened2music 2 years ago
3:00 THAT WOULD BE FUN
rickypfromnc 2 years ago 2
1 of my favorite tracks everrr oyea
FUCK JOE BUDDEN
rickypfromnc 2 years ago 2
only built for cuban linx ll comes out tomorrow
nnamdi25nyc 2 years ago
this shit is fucking fire.... ONLY BUILT FOR CUBAN LINKS 2 COMING OUT IN LESS THAN 2 DAYS!!!!
sheemsheem 2 years ago
all the motha fuckin time
chfox44116 2 years ago
what is that song in the begining
moblackqb31 2 years ago
The Wu Tang St. Ides commercial
mello706 2 years ago
good looking
moblackqb31 2 years ago
the song is actually a commercial remember back in the days every rapper was doing a st ides commercial that was one just type in wu tang st ides commercial or somrthing like that it should still be on youtube
whathappened2music 2 years ago
im 26 now and this album came out when i was 12. all this main stream dumb shit out now has fogged the minds of the youth. my friends in 6th grade were like.. Whys the tape purple? man i had that whole school reppin Wu back in the day. Yo on the real, if u grew up to this shit right here nigga. This shit right here nigga. then u def got it better than these simple minded young fools grown up today. listening to these Cat in the Hat ass rappers, fucking docter suess mother goose rhymes. Wu 4ever
armykiller123 2 years ago 33
word the fuggup son. I couldn't say it better myself.
neteru99 2 years ago
tru shit hommie im 34 ad i will bump wutng ,gangstarr ,,,tribe when im 50 wu tang world wide
apollokid21 2 years ago
damn straight... i'm only sixteen, and i'm the only guy i know that's even heard of this album... and if that ain't sad, i don't know what is.
darklordoprah 2 years ago 2
Naw, you're not the only one. I actually own this album along with many other hip hop classics, even 36 chambers. I wish kids our age could be exposed more to the classics.
Africanslick 2 years ago
dude, i have something like 25 Wu albums in all, counting stuff like Cappa's the pillage and the afro samurai soundtrack. and it's not just the Wu stuff, i can't name five kids i know who have heard of straight outta compton, it takes a nation of millions, paid in full, the chronic, death certificate, illmatic, etc. it's just fucking depressing.
darklordoprah 2 years ago
Naw, you can't be serious. There's gotta be at least one 16 year old who knows about Straight Outta Compton. That's like hip hop at its finest. And you have no idea what its like to hear kids my age saying that Lil Wayne's a genius. Now that's fucking depressing.
Africanslick 2 years ago 2
lol... theres people my age talkin about lil wayne being the best rapper out.... lol no shit... i was like so your tellin my lollypop is a hip hop classic.... fuckin garbage!!!!
armykiller123 2 years ago 2
word im fifteen and i know no one else my age who listens to this shit, everyones on that lil wayne tip. Fuck that nigga
jammabyoi 2 years ago
haha i know right im 16 its exactly the same. me and my niggas that i chill with are the only ones that got respect for the wu and actual rap, not that wayne or t-pain bullshit.
dirtmcgurt40 2 years ago 5
BRAP
jamakabi89 2 years ago
im 16 and own this album and Wu solo albums and all wu-tang albums. also have many other classic albums from rappers you prolly never heard of lol no disrespect tho
johntaveras 2 years ago
yeah, but keep in mind i'm a white boy living in a little ski town in colorado, so... yeah :D
darklordoprah 2 years ago
good for u man...its good to see a youngin apreciatin good of fashion hip hop
nwa6 2 years ago
@darklordoprah same here man, your not alone.
dirtmcgurt40 1 year ago
I feel you my nigga I just turned 27 in August I had this when I was 12 too. I remember having this and Ironman on tape.
clowe310 2 years ago 3
@armykiller123
word up!dropping science!
SoGodDamnFresh 1 year ago
@armykiller123 simple minded young fools? You think we ALL listen to that bullshit? Even if WE did it still doesn't make us "simple minded". Come on, get the fuck outta here man.
1mm0rtalt3chn19u3 1 year ago
@armykiller123 yeah im 20 and i was introduced to wu early on i remember bumping this when kids thought jeezy and yung joc were the futures...... nigggas r stupid lol
maverick2215 1 year ago
@armykiller123 FUCK NURSERY RHYMES WU TANG FOR EVER!!!!
escocrisis1 1 year ago
wow takes me back to 95 good look kid
chilliewillie1981 2 years ago
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johnyrev 2 years ago
Good Looking Out Homie....
patchr420 2 years ago
its the brew commercial
Osirius85 2 years ago
What's the name of the song in the back round when the track begins?????
patchr420 2 years ago 5
That's the Wu St. Ides commercial.
moochie1971 2 years ago 3
St. Ide's commercial... promo thing... you can Limewire that shit
MrTSquared 2 years ago
I'm glad some of yall know what your talking about. To bad it's nomore rules in hip-hop.
sabasdad 2 years ago 2
"its hott at night"one of the best intro's to a track eva...south carolina in this bitch
hittzthagreat 2 years ago
Raekwon kills it on this song.
RobotLips 2 years ago 3
2:57 i needs some bad. Any ladies interested in the 910 area
rickypfromnc 2 years ago
whats the song playing in the begging of this song?
luiedogg36 2 years ago
wu tang-st ides commercial
JoeSkateRock 2 years ago
thanx bro ive been wondering that for ever myself!!
diamondog1974 2 years ago
init wots that song rza is merking... he got that gravedigga enraged flow...
calibar38 2 years ago
this is how we get down with the rhym...
gregbuzz 2 years ago
Line for line, line for line...
Every line is golden
JizzyBCK 2 years ago 4
much love going out 4 raekwon
TKOpuncher 2 years ago