This is a man with a lot of insight and saw things as they are over the candy coated explanations of our surroundings . We lost a good man with a realistic view of life . Thank Zappa for sharing your views !
HEEEEEEEEEY mr tambourine man(with the shades) would you pleeeeeeeeeeeeease put that saxophone away and play your percussion part-it sounds soooooo much better.
Frank zappa is and always will be the REAL THING!! He lived breathed AND SHOT CUM FILLED NOTES OF PURE MUSIC. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANYONE LIKE HIM, EVER. If you question that turn on your radio today. Yeah see what I mean. Pretty bland, huh??
Que banda aqui tocan: Frank Zappa Y Jimmy Carl Black (QEPD), Ian Underwood, Bunk Gardner, Art Trip III,Roy Estrada,Don Preston, Y Motorhead Jim Sherwood. Que desde mi punto de vista, fue una de las mejores formaciones de las queridas,.recordadas y extrañadas madres de la invencion
All I can say Is FAR OUT!!! FZ was way before his time!!! I am the big 50 and my nieces and nephews are 14 & 16 and they have discovered FZ in their music class??!! Go figure!!?? In my day teachers would look at you suspect when one would listen to this!!?? It just proves FZ's point that the beureacratic society back then was made up of Fricken Nazi's just like it is now except for some geniuses like the music teacher, me and ultimately Frank Zappa!!! Thamks very much for the post!! RIP FZ !!
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yeah this is is awesome.. wish the quality was better.. awesome display of the Zappa prowess.. I'm still a HUGE fan of Jean Luc Ponty's version of KK.. and the Sweden 73' ...wow.. dumbfounded.
If only the quality was a little better... Great performance though, and I hope that one day this film and the accompanying audio get remastered and released to the public.
By the way, Leersham may let this performance remind him of anyone he likes, Green Day or otherwise! There's no right or wrong when it comes to music! Zappa fans should know this better than anyone!
@Zuhzuhzombie The two versions from "Uncle Meat" are still pretty darn good classics, especially the one closing the album, which is blessed by an extensive soloing by Underwood. The one from "Make a Jazz Noise Here" is a nice sample of FZ's late big band work, but it's so tongue-in-cheek many would hate it.
@dstillermann The one on "Make a Jazz Noise Here" is great, a very unique 'Reggae' version. Has a nice live version of "Porn Wars" stuck in the middle as well, a most epic surprise. The version of "King Kong" on Uncle Meat is disappointing in my opinion, because the sound quality is rather poor.
@Zuhzuhzombie The one on Live In Toronto. I think that's the name of the album. The one on Uncle Meat pales in comparison with this behemoth of a performance!
Yeah, I can see what you mean. I mean, Green Day have an electric guitar too, don't they?
This would be comparable to Green Day only if we were suddenly thrown into an alternate universe and Green Day weren't the Green Day of this universe but a different one that knew how to play their instruments and weren't wholly lacking even the slightest creative impulse.
@DimensionsofChange in that it blends jazz instrument6ation and improvization with a rock beat yes. or jazz with a rock guitar sound. zappa parodied and aped genres but his compositional fingerprint is so strong that it usually just sounds like zappa music!
The quality of this video is very degenerated compared to the mint condition version available right now for free on the Tapecity torrent tracker! Just search for Zappa BBC Documentary. FYI
Frank Zappa is a genius!!! I've only heard some of his work so far but from what I gather he wasn't afraid to experiment n put it out there to the public. This masterpiece is brilliant, a nice mix of jazz n fuzz guitar acid rock!
Esta version de KING KONG es anterior a grabarla en el gran "UNCLE MEAT" y es mas resumida por que es una sesion televisiva pero igualmente es GENIAL, hay una parte (2:23) que Don Preston y su piano electrico se quedan solos y es realmente soberbia (aparte que esa parte no sale en la grabacion de Uncle Meat) aparte en la intro de Zappa es muy chistoso como baila Motorhead Sherwood.
It was refreshing to hear some free improvisational baritone. I'm a fan or Zorn and Coleman and Ayler and Coltrane and I love the free improv saxophone sound but never heard it on the lower saxes. Awesome. He could have seperated his notes better though it sounded kinda sloppy. I love the soprano sax on Absolutely Free too.
heh, the joke is kind of that motorhead is the only one that doesn't really play an instrument (kind of the "teenage eye-candy"... and the other two sax players in the back seem less that excited that he got to take a solo on Tv. The older looking one, Bunk Gardner played that soprano solo on Absolutely Free, amazing stuff.
This is my favorite version of King Kong.. Well I really like the Lumpy Gravy version too but that one is too short. If Frank had made that one into a 6/7 minute long jam then that would be my favorite version but he didn't so the 1968 BBC version is my favorite.
The person who posted this video should receive some sort of humanitarian award for preserving and sharing this historic and ripping version of mighty Kong. And the In The Sky video, too. But this is Classic. The only thing that could've made these any better would be the velvety croon of Ray Collins.
Ian Underwood played with the Mothers through the summer of 1973 and was the major player (after Frank) on Hot Rats so FZ knew how good he was, and for that matter Don Preston continued through the Flo and Eddie years and was a quest on Roxy and Elsewhere.
now i have to dig up my LP copy of this...as this was astounding. I don't remember the guitar as fiery on the LP..his Fuzz lead is just fab. I forgot how precise he was on the guitar (tend to focus on his compositional skills..)..and how much soul he pours into it. Very cooll...thanks for the clip!!!
Ian Underwood had a BA in composition from Yale, and a masters from Berkeley. Artie Tripp was a percussionist with the Cincinnati Orchestra. Jimmy Carl Black and Roy Estrada may have been the weak links, but Zappa clearly loved them and has mentioned in interviews how they were the two players in The Soul Giants who most impressed him. I think the breakup of the Mothers had more to do with Zappa's dissatisfaction to the way the band was being marketed and/or received by audiences in the states.
Meh, yes and no.. It was a large part also because he couldn't rehearse them nearly as hard as he needed in order to play the music he was starting to form in his brain. The only way for Zappa to move on at any point was to dissolve all weak links and take control of the band creatively. I think he understood that the moment he started to do this the life of the "original mothers" wasn't long for this earth.
I still think that Zappa's most fertile period was during the disintegration of the Mothers Of Invention, when he still had some tension against his more extravagant idiosyncricities (and his guitar didn't sound like it had gone through a chemical personality remover).
I'll admit he wrote good stuff throughout his career, but he was never as consistently Great (as opposed to merely hyper-competent or good) as he was during that period.
actually i'd go further and say this was his most fertile period. straight mothers. less talk more thought. not that frank didn't have a lot (of important things) to say, and that 'one size fits all' didn't change my life but... 'uncle meat' ... perhaps the most under-rated album of all time.
It's odd that there are a bunch of comments (including quotes from Zappa himself) about how the original Mothers weren't good enough to play the harder compositions. Don Preston was a respected jazz musician who had played with Elvin Jones and whose father was a resident composer for the Detriot Symphony.
this was up on youtube a long time ago but it got taken down. Great to see it back up again. Wonder what the hell people were thinking of this stuff back in 68??? ha!
Alright everyone. This version, the Uncle Meat recording, and the BTB: The Ark recording. Which one do you prefer? I would like to say that I enjoy the Uncle Meat recording for it's studio cleanliness(however I don't care for the mix of the horns). I love the Beat the Boots recording for the drums following the Uncle Meat intro. Between the two live versions, I find the one from The Ark to have too many time change mistakes. I like this one most. I only wish I could find a recording. Oh Well...
Agreed... I wish to god I could find an actual recording of this, but all I could get was the version of "in the sky" that precedes this performance. The compositional sections are mind blowing, and the drums sound thunderous in this take.
Happy B-DAY FRANK ZAPPA! Your music in all ways moved me.I breifly new you.Your music is the best,and still is thanks to Dweezel,and ZPZ! 12/12/08 Roxy-You would be so proud Frank!
FZ was the original DIY indie rock star. Yet from where I can see, he still receives very little respect from the indie rock scene. This piece alone defines a large majority of indie rock tunes.
This, along with a lot of the Roxy/Elsewhere album rank as the best Zappa output. Cream of the monumental crop.
I'll repeat something I posted 3 months ago just to get a conversation going after the recent hi-jack:
The intro is actually from "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" as a bit of "Dwarf Nebula Processional March" and then they git into King Kong.
One of the reasons Zappa got rid of the Original Mothers is that it took them over 6 months to learn this song and he figured he needed better musicians.
Very interesting, your comment about Zappa disbanding the Mothers in search of better musicians. As a musician myself, I'd be deathly affraid of working for the man himself. He seems like a very outgoing guy, unless you botched a measure on stage, I could definitely see Frank busting your balls about it backstage. He is the only person that can fully satisfy my jones for tonal addiction. Because of that fact, I sometimes wish I'd never stumbled upon his treasures. Long live his many masterpieces
I'd be intimidated, too. There's a vid somewhere of Steve Vai talking about what FZ put him through for his audition. Back in '79 when I was in college and was a gigging drummer I heard he held open auditions. I was practicing 4-6 hrs. a day, playing to FZ records (try St. Alfonso. Ralph Humpfrey). But I never got to do it, and it's probably a good thing since I might have blown it. But even the thought of FZ made me a better musician. He raised the bar for everybody.
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I guarantee you would never say that to me on the street, you punk piece of shit. Sadly we will never meet, otherwise we could have a nice 'conversation' where I would show you your 'emo' side. In fact, your whole country is basically one big faggot parade, where you let muslims fuck you in the ass and you probably like it. Once again, you are a little punk piece of shit.
well, you've got some really interesting points and views - but really, i've already done the 4th grade, but you should be looking forward to the 5th - there, they teach you how to spell and argue and so. a pretty nice skill handling. but all i can say about usa is that you simply eat too much! - you watch too much tele AND all of your asses are fat as phants!
and, if i met you on the street.... oh lord!
i've got the black clue mthfucker- but feel free to stop by, emo
are you as stupid as you sound in real life? of course your an idiot for being prejudiced! there is absolutely no scientific evidence corrolating skin colour with behaviour, and maybe if everyone like you was dead, racial stereotypes would not exist. Some black dude is gonna tie you to a bed and put his dick up your ass ... p.s. you are a fucking idiot
dude im just messing around ... i do not see colour, unless i am really trying to poke fun at someone. Although you are a fucking idiot if you are prejediced against someone for something as shallow as their skin colour. You are a prime example of the kind of mentality that keeps our world from moving forward. I hope you get kidnapped and raped by a black dude
@Tadej37 He'd using his Les Paul Goldtop here.
GU1T4RMAST3R 1 week ago
Was he using his SG here?
Tadej37 3 weeks ago
That was an interesting 9 minutes of my life..
skaterstone2000 2 months ago 4
do they change the tempo in the middle of the song?
bengenteboa 3 months ago
Am I right in thinking this is from the Late Show Zappa compilation shown when Frank died?
MaryHarper 4 months ago
Am I right in thinking this is from the Late Show Zappa comilation shown when Frank died?
MaryHarper 4 months ago
it seems all my favorite Zappa songs have no singing. Just great jamming and jazz fusion.
KENA429 4 months ago
This is a man with a lot of insight and saw things as they are over the candy coated explanations of our surroundings . We lost a good man with a realistic view of life . Thank Zappa for sharing your views !
Miki31953 4 months ago in playlist Frank Zappa
HEEEEEEEEEY mr tambourine man(with the shades) would you pleeeeeeeeeeeeease put that saxophone away and play your percussion part-it sounds soooooo much better.
GreedyNoobLike 5 months ago
Frank zappa is and always will be the REAL THING!! He lived breathed AND SHOT CUM FILLED NOTES OF PURE MUSIC. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANYONE LIKE HIM, EVER. If you question that turn on your radio today. Yeah see what I mean. Pretty bland, huh??
dotothenn 5 months ago
Gotta love the "consult a psychiatrist" subliminal message
ZeppelinRules 5 months ago
Also props to the Gold Top LP.
Zuhzuhzombie 6 months ago
it pumps oxigen to your brain...Thanks Mr. Zappa
ronaldgatogamboa 7 months ago
2:33 al 4:45 maton que saxes tan fregones y mas me encanta el solo de sax de motorhead
elchicano2010 7 months ago
Que banda aqui tocan: Frank Zappa Y Jimmy Carl Black (QEPD), Ian Underwood, Bunk Gardner, Art Trip III,Roy Estrada,Don Preston, Y Motorhead Jim Sherwood. Que desde mi punto de vista, fue una de las mejores formaciones de las queridas,.recordadas y extrañadas madres de la invencion
elchicano2010 7 months ago
All I can say Is FAR OUT!!! FZ was way before his time!!! I am the big 50 and my nieces and nephews are 14 & 16 and they have discovered FZ in their music class??!! Go figure!!?? In my day teachers would look at you suspect when one would listen to this!!?? It just proves FZ's point that the beureacratic society back then was made up of Fricken Nazi's just like it is now except for some geniuses like the music teacher, me and ultimately Frank Zappa!!! Thamks very much for the post!! RIP FZ !!
WinstonsPapa 7 months ago
this is just awesome. unfortunately the sound quality is too bad to enjoy this quintessence of the 60's
marthenie 8 months ago
With all the crap on the radio, i forgot what real music sounds like !!!
giamozz 8 months ago
So nothing has changed, it still can't be done in the united states !! Now , with the socialist system, it's even worse ! ;o((
giamozz 8 months ago
@giamozz Eh?
whitedwarf13 1 month ago
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7beers 8 months ago
The BBC couldn't do this again; unless it had a time-machine!
rowzenator 10 months ago
We didn't have much time
Frank Zappa and the Mothers
Were at the best place around
But some stupid with a flare gun
Burned the place to the ground
HenriqueLobato 11 months ago
BBC was trippy in 68!
weird effects in the image, that's awesome
fccctorres 1 year ago
Not B 4 or since!
Mryairey 1 year ago
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Dfrankjazz 1 year ago
Ian Underwood whips it out!!! Great stuff!
stymie86 1 year ago
Can someone send me a link to a picture of Ray Collins with hair, or doesn't one exist?;)
P.S. Yes, I know that Ray is not in this video.
dharmaseed 1 year ago
I never heard Frank Zappa's music, and he's a genious. wasted my whole life listening trash but this is REAL MUSIC. I LOVE IT!!!!
cavas77 1 year ago
Bravo!
CoastForager 1 year ago
yeah this is is awesome.. wish the quality was better.. awesome display of the Zappa prowess.. I'm still a HUGE fan of Jean Luc Ponty's version of KK.. and the Sweden 73' ...wow.. dumbfounded.
Janitor989 1 year ago
absolutely amazing
jefff182 1 year ago
If only the quality was a little better... Great performance though, and I hope that one day this film and the accompanying audio get remastered and released to the public.
By the way, Leersham may let this performance remind him of anyone he likes, Green Day or otherwise! There's no right or wrong when it comes to music! Zappa fans should know this better than anyone!
discopatrick 1 year ago
Is there a version of King Kong as good as this that's on an official release?
Zuhzuhzombie 1 year ago
@Zuhzuhzombie The two versions from "Uncle Meat" are still pretty darn good classics, especially the one closing the album, which is blessed by an extensive soloing by Underwood. The one from "Make a Jazz Noise Here" is a nice sample of FZ's late big band work, but it's so tongue-in-cheek many would hate it.
dstillermann 1 year ago
@dstillermann
Yes, the "Uncle Meat"-Version is the best available, but there's also a VERY good one on "Ahead of their Time".
aeronpanick 1 year ago 2
@aeronpanick Agreed, and also not a bad one on "'Tis The Season To Be Jelly".
dstillermann 1 year ago
@dstillermann And the Live In Toronto album, that's pretty close--the album which has John Lennon and Yoko Ono on it....
vollsticks 10 months ago
@dstillermann The one on "Make a Jazz Noise Here" is great, a very unique 'Reggae' version. Has a nice live version of "Porn Wars" stuck in the middle as well, a most epic surprise. The version of "King Kong" on Uncle Meat is disappointing in my opinion, because the sound quality is rather poor.
whitedwarf13 1 month ago
@Zuhzuhzombie ahead of their time album
juden187 1 year ago
@Zuhzuhzombie check the "ahead of their time album" It has a great version of this piece!!!
And yes what an impact when the tune actualy starts!!!
It sends the shivers up and down with some gooses on the top of it.............
funkempfang 1 year ago
@Zuhzuhzombie The one on Live In Toronto. I think that's the name of the album. The one on Uncle Meat pales in comparison with this behemoth of a performance!
vollsticks 1 year ago
@vollsticks Link?
Zuhzuhzombie 1 year ago
The intro is from "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" as a bit of "Dwarf Nebula Processional March" and then they get into King Kong.
"We heard about how people in this land like traditional jazz" is classic from Frank.
always great
KING KONG
npspec34 1 year ago 2
This sort of reminds me of Green Day.
lesharam 1 year ago
@lesharam
You're nuts.
Mrgyn 1 year ago
@lesharam
Yeah, I can see what you mean. I mean, Green Day have an electric guitar too, don't they?
This would be comparable to Green Day only if we were suddenly thrown into an alternate universe and Green Day weren't the Green Day of this universe but a different one that knew how to play their instruments and weren't wholly lacking even the slightest creative impulse.
MrFarcry1966 1 year ago
@lesharam dude shut the fuck up
moccasin11 1 year ago
@lesharam ?!
DimensionsofChange 1 year ago
No one like Frank Zappa..Music is the Best!
boangrooster 1 year ago
@boangrooster u better not be chinese
zootallurez 1 year ago
@zootallurez ,unfortunately not Chinese but i wonder hw many Chinese fans of Frank there are? lol..
Music is the Best..
boangrooster 1 year ago
Does this count as Jazz fusion?
DimensionsofChange 1 year ago
@DimensionsofChange in that it blends jazz instrument6ation and improvization with a rock beat yes. or jazz with a rock guitar sound. zappa parodied and aped genres but his compositional fingerprint is so strong that it usually just sounds like zappa music!
gtr1359 1 year ago
@gtr1359 I'm gonna go ahead and count that as a yes. Compositional fingerprint eh? I'm taking that term if i's not already widely used by everyone.
DimensionsofChange 1 year ago
legenda
dragancebre 1 year ago
Gee that guy must have a small attention span.
sonicnumanuma 1 year ago
seems pretty boring. probably takes a while to get into
JacquesBrel11 1 year ago
did you manage to wait until 1:49?
0belvedere 1 year ago
Still magnificent 42 years later!
iaincollin 1 year ago
Pretty cool
DimensionsofChange 1 year ago
awesome
superfatman900 1 year ago
wtf...
Hardtack444 1 year ago
The quality of this video is very degenerated compared to the mint condition version available right now for free on the Tapecity torrent tracker! Just search for Zappa BBC Documentary. FYI
cmadera100 1 year ago 2
Many thanks for recommending this!!!
dstillermann 1 year ago
@cmadera100 tapecity has disappeared, any chance anyone here can upload it to a new torrent?
eMbry00s 4 months ago
Muziek ist het beste!
ChynaRider 2 years ago
that saxophone solo is...
swedishstream 2 years ago
love when the epic gongs kick in..legendary
Saatip 2 years ago
la cabeza q tenia el chabon era unica... no era un musico de rock... estaba mas alla de todas las definiciones posibles... simplemente ZAPPA
frankzappa74 2 years ago 2
de grootste van allemaal
klootzakisme 2 years ago
Impresionante.
Signifer82 2 years ago
Maestro el GRAN ZAPPA
ricardo7338 2 years ago
We had three TV channels then and this was on one (BBC2). Ohmihgod
stevecrosby99 2 years ago
While Kenny and his buddies have a game out in the back, LET'S MAKE THE WATER TURN BLAAAACK
Theakker3 2 years ago
such an awesome composer!!!!
sausageface545 2 years ago 2
Awesome.
AlbertMondback 2 years ago 4
bunk gardner!! yeah!!
431516020205 2 years ago
the song king kong was one of the first jazz fusion songs ever and not many people seem to recognize that.
DWBT18 2 years ago 3
give it up for Motorhead Sherwood y'alll
hihats 2 years ago 3
Frank Zappa is a genius!!! I've only heard some of his work so far but from what I gather he wasn't afraid to experiment n put it out there to the public. This masterpiece is brilliant, a nice mix of jazz n fuzz guitar acid rock!
typicalaussiebloke 2 years ago
Genius!!!!
juanpkorn609 2 years ago
I second that!!!
typicalaussiebloke 2 years ago
There's just something about his sound from this era. He was really pouring his heart out.
slbiggs36 2 years ago 5
the blackouts
csentell1 2 years ago
They think they're Lawrence Welk. :D
ClarkeMarek 2 years ago
3:31-4:44 = EPIC!!!
PsytranceMan777 2 years ago
4:44 - 9:07 = EPIC!!!
zenrarity 2 years ago
0:00 - 9:07 = EPIC!!!
reasonformirrors 2 years ago 5
0:00 - 9:07 = EPIC!!
pettrucciisgod 2 years ago 16
complex.
cosmicwarrior287 2 years ago
think about it! thats happand 1968´
irre geil
ichbinsnichmehr 2 years ago
muy sobrado y aburrido. Zappa era un genio pero su musica de un petulante
zapatasantos 2 years ago
inventive, and innovative, he is far far out ahead of the curve, man he was never let in the box so he always was outside of it.
mrgoodvibrations 2 years ago 2
Intense, epic...Zappa!!!
subjulio 2 years ago 4
wow, I've never seen such tambourine playing! - but seriously, oh Frank - so good, so good.
ironlion37 2 years ago
Hey hey now. Don't dis psychedelic music.
iwantwatermellon 2 years ago 3
Frank did. On his very first album.
teratophobia 2 years ago
well i still like frank. but not the person below me.
haha just kidding. i love you too :)
iwantwatermellon 2 years ago
this is kinda psychadellic music innit?
FazlokAaAaAaA 2 years ago
you will be dead by morning
Katanajoe7 2 years ago
I saw the Mothers with this incarnation when I was 12. They were the best band on the planet at that time. And funny as hell in between songs.
maryshelleysman 2 years ago
aw man i wish theyre were more vids from this show/era
benjammin420420 2 years ago
Esta version de KING KONG es anterior a grabarla en el gran "UNCLE MEAT" y es mas resumida por que es una sesion televisiva pero igualmente es GENIAL, hay una parte (2:23) que Don Preston y su piano electrico se quedan solos y es realmente soberbia (aparte que esa parte no sale en la grabacion de Uncle Meat) aparte en la intro de Zappa es muy chistoso como baila Motorhead Sherwood.
"GOD SAVE THE MOTHERS"
!!! GRANDE ZAPPA ¡¡¡
Anarquitecto 2 years ago
no habia escuchado a FZ y la verdad su musica esta muy cabrona el y sus musicos son de lo mejor que he escuchado
judasmk 2 years ago
nice
IggyM 2 years ago
It was refreshing to hear some free improvisational baritone. I'm a fan or Zorn and Coleman and Ayler and Coltrane and I love the free improv saxophone sound but never heard it on the lower saxes. Awesome. He could have seperated his notes better though it sounded kinda sloppy. I love the soprano sax on Absolutely Free too.
findingusernamesucks 2 years ago
heh, the joke is kind of that motorhead is the only one that doesn't really play an instrument (kind of the "teenage eye-candy"... and the other two sax players in the back seem less that excited that he got to take a solo on Tv. The older looking one, Bunk Gardner played that soprano solo on Absolutely Free, amazing stuff.
pianodan10 2 years ago
How'd they get that phonetic electric belch at the end?!
narozzz 3 years ago
This is my favorite version of King Kong.. Well I really like the Lumpy Gravy version too but that one is too short. If Frank had made that one into a 6/7 minute long jam then that would be my favorite version but he didn't so the 1968 BBC version is my favorite.
SockbatReplica 3 years ago
The person who posted this video should receive some sort of humanitarian award for preserving and sharing this historic and ripping version of mighty Kong. And the In The Sky video, too. But this is Classic. The only thing that could've made these any better would be the velvety croon of Ray Collins.
GayleMI 3 years ago 5
I apologize if this has been mentioned previously but who is who in the video?
Svensson450 3 years ago
Frank Zappa - guitar
Jimmy Carl Black - drums (in the corner)
Art Tripp - drums
Roy Estrada - bass
Don Preston - electric piano
Ian Underwood - alto sax
Bunk Gardner - tenor sax
Motorhead Sherwood - baritone sax & tamborine
auntiephos 3 years ago 10
Thanks!
Svensson450 3 years ago
And as an attachment:
Ian Underwood played with the Mothers through the summer of 1973 and was the major player (after Frank) on Hot Rats so FZ knew how good he was, and for that matter Don Preston continued through the Flo and Eddie years and was a quest on Roxy and Elsewhere.
It is just that the 60's had to end,
at some point,
my friend.
npspec34 3 years ago
I like the defending of the Originals,
they need NO defending.
It was time to move on,
BUT Don Preston himself admitted that he could't read music on a page,
he played by ear.
And they all moved on.
And this IS a great KK.
The live section on Uncle Meat was at Gulfstream Park for a SoFla pre-cursor
to Woodstock.
npspec34 3 years ago 2
now i have to dig up my LP copy of this...as this was astounding. I don't remember the guitar as fiery on the LP..his Fuzz lead is just fab. I forgot how precise he was on the guitar (tend to focus on his compositional skills..)..and how much soul he pours into it. Very cooll...thanks for the clip!!!
freqazoidiac 3 years ago
I started listening to Zappa around '90 or so...I'm only now begining to grasp how brilliant Frank really was.
paulrichardschuster 3 years ago 2
Ian Underwood had a BA in composition from Yale, and a masters from Berkeley. Artie Tripp was a percussionist with the Cincinnati Orchestra. Jimmy Carl Black and Roy Estrada may have been the weak links, but Zappa clearly loved them and has mentioned in interviews how they were the two players in The Soul Giants who most impressed him. I think the breakup of the Mothers had more to do with Zappa's dissatisfaction to the way the band was being marketed and/or received by audiences in the states.
pcrowling 3 years ago
Meh, yes and no.. It was a large part also because he couldn't rehearse them nearly as hard as he needed in order to play the music he was starting to form in his brain. The only way for Zappa to move on at any point was to dissolve all weak links and take control of the band creatively. I think he understood that the moment he started to do this the life of the "original mothers" wasn't long for this earth.
pianodan10 2 years ago
shut up, you don't knwo frank zappa
sunoftheutube 2 years ago
And you don't know how to spell. I'd rather take that one, to be honest.
pianodan10 2 years ago
I still think that Zappa's most fertile period was during the disintegration of the Mothers Of Invention, when he still had some tension against his more extravagant idiosyncricities (and his guitar didn't sound like it had gone through a chemical personality remover).
I'll admit he wrote good stuff throughout his career, but he was never as consistently Great (as opposed to merely hyper-competent or good) as he was during that period.
GolumTR 2 years ago
There was a lot of chemistry with the early Mothers, whether they were getting along or not.
slbiggs36 2 years ago 4
Very true.
vollsticks 2 years ago
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Frank comes across as a huge prick. Twisted and a tad childish.
micmore007a 2 years ago
@GolumTR
actually i'd go further and say this was his most fertile period. straight mothers. less talk more thought. not that frank didn't have a lot (of important things) to say, and that 'one size fits all' didn't change my life but... 'uncle meat' ... perhaps the most under-rated album of all time.
jefff182 1 year ago
It's odd that there are a bunch of comments (including quotes from Zappa himself) about how the original Mothers weren't good enough to play the harder compositions. Don Preston was a respected jazz musician who had played with Elvin Jones and whose father was a resident composer for the Detriot Symphony.
pcrowling 3 years ago 2
this was up on youtube a long time ago but it got taken down. Great to see it back up again. Wonder what the hell people were thinking of this stuff back in 68??? ha!
CribNotes 3 years ago
They need to make this into a recording its sooooooo damn good!!!
BongoFury10 3 years ago
Alright everyone. This version, the Uncle Meat recording, and the BTB: The Ark recording. Which one do you prefer? I would like to say that I enjoy the Uncle Meat recording for it's studio cleanliness(however I don't care for the mix of the horns). I love the Beat the Boots recording for the drums following the Uncle Meat intro. Between the two live versions, I find the one from The Ark to have too many time change mistakes. I like this one most. I only wish I could find a recording. Oh Well...
badgeeater 3 years ago
Agreed... I wish to god I could find an actual recording of this, but all I could get was the version of "in the sky" that precedes this performance. The compositional sections are mind blowing, and the drums sound thunderous in this take.
pianodan10 2 years ago
Grazie MAESTRO
your music make me feelin'good.
neocrimbrun 3 years ago
RIP Jimmy Carl Black
1zappa 3 years ago
"We would like to thank the people of BBC for allowing us to play some of the things that they would not allow us to play in the United States"
FZ
That has NOT changed - for your listening pleasure.
KING KONG
npspec34 3 years ago
Happy B-DAY FRANK ZAPPA! Your music in all ways moved me.I breifly new you.Your music is the best,and still is thanks to Dweezel,and ZPZ! 12/12/08 Roxy-You would be so proud Frank!
splishsplash9 3 years ago
Motorhead is a trip to watch. One of my favorite arrangements ever.
badgeeater 3 years ago
esta chido compa
18erickr 3 years ago
FZ was the original DIY indie rock star. Yet from where I can see, he still receives very little respect from the indie rock scene. This piece alone defines a large majority of indie rock tunes.
This, along with a lot of the Roxy/Elsewhere album rank as the best Zappa output. Cream of the monumental crop.
overheadthealbatross 3 years ago
I'll repeat something I posted 3 months ago just to get a conversation going after the recent hi-jack:
The intro is actually from "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" as a bit of "Dwarf Nebula Processional March" and then they git into King Kong.
One of the reasons Zappa got rid of the Original Mothers is that it took them over 6 months to learn this song and he figured he needed better musicians.
To do what he had to do.
This is the Best of the Original Mothers!!!
npspec34 3 years ago
Very interesting, your comment about Zappa disbanding the Mothers in search of better musicians. As a musician myself, I'd be deathly affraid of working for the man himself. He seems like a very outgoing guy, unless you botched a measure on stage, I could definitely see Frank busting your balls about it backstage. He is the only person that can fully satisfy my jones for tonal addiction. Because of that fact, I sometimes wish I'd never stumbled upon his treasures. Long live his many masterpieces
badgeeater 3 years ago
I'd be intimidated, too. There's a vid somewhere of Steve Vai talking about what FZ put him through for his audition. Back in '79 when I was in college and was a gigging drummer I heard he held open auditions. I was practicing 4-6 hrs. a day, playing to FZ records (try St. Alfonso. Ralph Humpfrey). But I never got to do it, and it's probably a good thing since I might have blown it. But even the thought of FZ made me a better musician. He raised the bar for everybody.
nonthere 2 years ago 8
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fuck you, emo
Fiaganja 2 years ago
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I guarantee you would never say that to me on the street, you punk piece of shit. Sadly we will never meet, otherwise we could have a nice 'conversation' where I would show you your 'emo' side. In fact, your whole country is basically one big faggot parade, where you let muslims fuck you in the ass and you probably like it. Once again, you are a little punk piece of shit.
nonthere 2 years ago
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well, you've got some really interesting points and views - but really, i've already done the 4th grade, but you should be looking forward to the 5th - there, they teach you how to spell and argue and so. a pretty nice skill handling. but all i can say about usa is that you simply eat too much! - you watch too much tele AND all of your asses are fat as phants!
and, if i met you on the street.... oh lord!
i've got the black clue mthfucker- but feel free to stop by, emo
Fiaganja 2 years ago
Yeah and?
Revmd 2 years ago
That's one heavy tambourine.
Kaligulasucks 3 years ago
best FZ song ever
Traductus5972 3 years ago 2
theres a lot of videos that dont show the guitarist during his solo
SEMICHUCK 3 years ago
jimmy carl black rip
eunicefinger 3 years ago
Why can't America have the same taste in music as the UK does?
Boojispud 3 years ago
Isn't it because most Americans have an unfortunate fascination with all things Plastic/Corporate/Idiotic?
(At least, that's what we've been led to believe is most popular by the Corporations...)
RossMedia2007 3 years ago 4
Some of these pricks making comments could never appreciate the music of the master that is Zappa. Fuck you.
MickeyLove01 3 years ago 13
i read these racist comments and thank god i was born british and raised with tolerance
eunicefinger 3 years ago 5
how the fuck do these comments have to with frank zappas music
Nicholaslaminen 3 years ago 4
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im a nigger in your neighbourhood and i really want to stick my penis in your anus
fissionemblem1 3 years ago
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are you as stupid as you sound in real life? of course your an idiot for being prejudiced! there is absolutely no scientific evidence corrolating skin colour with behaviour, and maybe if everyone like you was dead, racial stereotypes would not exist. Some black dude is gonna tie you to a bed and put his dick up your ass ... p.s. you are a fucking idiot
fissionemblem1 3 years ago
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dude im just messing around ... i do not see colour, unless i am really trying to poke fun at someone. Although you are a fucking idiot if you are prejediced against someone for something as shallow as their skin colour. You are a prime example of the kind of mentality that keeps our world from moving forward. I hope you get kidnapped and raped by a black dude
fissionemblem1 3 years ago
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do you want to meet me so then we can start bombing some niggers?
by the way i hate all niggers!!
fissionemblem1 3 years ago
From my point of view...best song of Frank Zappa...With Uncle Of Meat, Black Page, Peaches and Regalia and Dog Breath Variations...
Sellouth 3 years ago
totally agree with you, fusion rulex..
naponapo3 3 years ago
i wish this was released on a album.
Traductus5972 3 years ago 2
FZ so good some people just dont get it!
ludy39 3 years ago
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i hate all niggers!!
fissionemblem1 3 years ago
Absolutely Feckin Brilliant...........the legend lives
burpotsbin46 3 years ago
As a completely unbiased viewer, I can safely say that this is the greatest thing I have ever heard.
GrandWazoo9 3 years ago 2
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this is hideous...
genericdefault 3 years ago
best band ever
AlienfaceBiliRubin 3 years ago 2
Does anybody know if the guy on baritone sax is Ian Underwood?
Civas0072 3 years ago
Motorhead Sherwood
boffotc 3 years ago 3
Thanks a lot!
Civas0072 3 years ago
motorhead sherwood is playing the tambourine, bunk gardner is playing baritone sax
zcosmos9 3 years ago
not quite, motorhead is playing both bari and tambourine... Bunk is the older looking guy playing tenor
pianodan10 3 years ago
Motorhead was playing the bari during the solo, though. Gardner was on tenor.
Well108 3 years ago 2
Utube is like looking through the garbage to find a treasure. Tonight, I found a treasure. Thank you dstillerman.
eabobf 3 years ago 2
Well Said
boffotc 3 years ago 2
The funky opening makes me laugh out loud.
Frank Zappa was the Spike Jones of the late 60s and 70s.
Limp73 3 years ago
King Kong is the top of the early stuff.
npspec34 3 years ago