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Actually.. only Craters, Foxhole and trenches get area terrain.. boulders like the one you use.. is actually WUSIWUG.. for all units.. So if model is behind a terrain at the point of firing.. the models usually get a 4+ cover safe..
If both units are assaulting in difficult terrain.. grenade doesnt matthers.. Grenades also matther is when the assault unit is assaulting from outside the difficult terrain into it..
I've already had this discussion, the terrain I showed can be identified as area terrain. I'll give you an example, if I put a tree that could be removed from the terrain and said it was a wooded forest, would there be no issue? then why bother with the tree which will NEVER be put back in the right place as units move across it. Why bother with terrain that is uneven (like the GW crater) and will always result in laying models down and screw up LOS.
And if two units are in the same terrain, it DOES matter. The rule in the book is that if you have to take a difficult terrain test (even if you're 1" away) the assault is affected by the terrain as units stumble over branches or what not. It's why I specifically showed that terrain impacts you when you assault OUT of terrain. Assaulting into terrain is visually easy to comprehend.
Locbot.... area terrain is a terrain with clearly defined border upon which attributes (such as is it difficult terrain, does it provide cover saves) can be assigned. The confusion is understood as you have to navigate quite a few pages in the rule book to get all the rules governing area terrain. It's why I wanted to condense it all into one video for you all.
Ok Guys. Enough about if this is really area terrain or not... bottom line is that both players agree on what is and what isn't area terrain at the beginning of the game. My left nut could be area terrain if me and my opponent both agree on it! Doremicom was using this piece as an example to help you all.
I really hope people out there don't use peice like that as area terrain..........cover saves and area terrain is bad enough in 5th, to start calling all terrain area terrain your going to ruin the game.
In a real game, that white unit wouldn't get a single cover save at all........clearly the blue guys have clear LOS, and that piece has nothing that would differentiate it as area terrain such as a ruin or forest.
ok, take a breath. The rules for area terrain in 5th edition are clearly stated. I did not over state the rules at any point in time and I think you need to take a chill.
The reason this makes such great area terrain, is because you are not introducing terrain that causes issues with movement. The forest terrain with removable trees that you're probably used to identifying as area terrain is far more suseptible to ruining a game as the trees are not returned to the EXACT spot. Ruining LOS
Yes they can be shot at, but if they are more than 2" into the terrain then they get a cover save.
Also its always important to discuss terrain with your opponent before the game, as to what kind of save it will give you, but if your counting it as difficult terrain then it would also count as area terrain.
wow relly is playable well in the future im shure the younger guyas will do it but im also shure that the adaults have greater and more emotinal view on the topics even tho i have and im shure other young wargamers have big big ideas on what gws doing !
How do these rules apply to buildings?
beto3k 1 year ago
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Good Luck everyone
Shinja527 2 years ago
my camera dosnt play or read sound for some reson and my laptops built in camera isnt very good quality. so i cant take part. : (
UberFree 2 years ago
sure you can add text in the video or annotations. we want everyonr to be able to enter.
doremicom 2 years ago
Thanks. i wasn't sure if you were allowed to use annotations on this contest. : )
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UberFree 2 years ago
AGH HA finished and hours to spare!!
UberFree 2 years ago
great video thank you so much keep up the good work! :)
halflifeforever 2 years ago
Thank you.
doremicom 2 years ago
I think my video response is pure epic ;P
wowilovepotatoes 2 years ago
Yes. 32 seconds of pure epic! :)
wowilovepotatoes 2 years ago
I just tried to get to the Wargame Painting site, did they sell it?
skittlesaretasty 2 years ago
Their website was always in flux. The best way to get ahold of war game painting is shooting them a pm, their email address is on their channel page.
doremicom 2 years ago
oh alright
skittlesaretasty 2 years ago
@Chef40k.... Left nut!!! LOL!!! good one Chef...
meowbeen 2 years ago
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Actually.. only Craters, Foxhole and trenches get area terrain.. boulders like the one you use.. is actually WUSIWUG.. for all units.. So if model is behind a terrain at the point of firing.. the models usually get a 4+ cover safe..
If both units are assaulting in difficult terrain.. grenade doesnt matthers.. Grenades also matther is when the assault unit is assaulting from outside the difficult terrain into it..
redeye117 2 years ago
I've already had this discussion, the terrain I showed can be identified as area terrain. I'll give you an example, if I put a tree that could be removed from the terrain and said it was a wooded forest, would there be no issue? then why bother with the tree which will NEVER be put back in the right place as units move across it. Why bother with terrain that is uneven (like the GW crater) and will always result in laying models down and screw up LOS.
doremicom 2 years ago
And if two units are in the same terrain, it DOES matter. The rule in the book is that if you have to take a difficult terrain test (even if you're 1" away) the assault is affected by the terrain as units stumble over branches or what not. It's why I specifically showed that terrain impacts you when you assault OUT of terrain. Assaulting into terrain is visually easy to comprehend.
doremicom 2 years ago
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm thats called difficult terrain not area terrain area is like the board.
Locbot 2 years ago
Locbot.... area terrain is a terrain with clearly defined border upon which attributes (such as is it difficult terrain, does it provide cover saves) can be assigned. The confusion is understood as you have to navigate quite a few pages in the rule book to get all the rules governing area terrain. It's why I wanted to condense it all into one video for you all.
doremicom 2 years ago
Ok Guys. Enough about if this is really area terrain or not... bottom line is that both players agree on what is and what isn't area terrain at the beginning of the game. My left nut could be area terrain if me and my opponent both agree on it! Doremicom was using this piece as an example to help you all.
Chef40k 2 years ago 5
I really hope people out there don't use peice like that as area terrain..........cover saves and area terrain is bad enough in 5th, to start calling all terrain area terrain your going to ruin the game.
In a real game, that white unit wouldn't get a single cover save at all........clearly the blue guys have clear LOS, and that piece has nothing that would differentiate it as area terrain such as a ruin or forest.
miniwargamereric 2 years ago
ok, take a breath. The rules for area terrain in 5th edition are clearly stated. I did not over state the rules at any point in time and I think you need to take a chill.
The reason this makes such great area terrain, is because you are not introducing terrain that causes issues with movement. The forest terrain with removable trees that you're probably used to identifying as area terrain is far more suseptible to ruining a game as the trees are not returned to the EXACT spot. Ruining LOS
doremicom 2 years ago
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Chef40k 2 years ago
MWGE,
In 5th ed this would count as area terrain.
Terrain is terrain is terrain.
Yes they can be shot at, but if they are more than 2" into the terrain then they get a cover save.
Also its always important to discuss terrain with your opponent before the game, as to what kind of save it will give you, but if your counting it as difficult terrain then it would also count as area terrain.
+1 for Doremicom
solidsmurf 2 years ago 2
its a shame that youtube stops things like the round table
kingtwilliam 2 years ago
they haven't yet, but I don't want to give them a reason to.
doremicom 2 years ago
I posted my response, its processing!
skittlesaretasty 2 years ago
Sweet. video replied.
PCRedman 2 years ago
Ok, working on the vidio now... im tired too. lol
PCRedman 2 years ago
I would have thought that this piece would be true line of sight?...
tompat7 2 years ago 2
wow relly is playable well in the future im shure the younger guyas will do it but im also shure that the adaults have greater and more emotinal view on the topics even tho i have and im shure other young wargamers have big big ideas on what gws doing !
Number1GamerAsh 2 years ago
You look tired man.
PCRedman 2 years ago
Yeah, I am. Long weekend, dealt with a lot of stuff, just did not let myself go to sleep before getting this video out.
doremicom 2 years ago
FIRST. Thanks for the vid man
PCRedman 2 years ago