Donnie B: Old Style Muay Thai Attack Techniques

[namphon]

Ha Ha true trun04

[trun04]

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[valgorlin]

this is sweet to use on people that have reach on you

[gryfin80]

Great vid:)

I practise wing chun under Sifu Jim fung tsu shong tin lineage in Australia and we use very similar looking techniques in our char chong ( breaking the guard) drills looks very similar and very effective great work

[petdog12]

some guy wants to fight me, just picking up a few quick tips. Thanks Donnie B!

[kjs69724]

i love you clips but for some reason this one stands out the most to me. I actually tried it sparring and was able to gain entry a couple times.

[trevor75203]

wut if hes taller then u

[danielbriceno]

hi donnie your style is very cool...where and with who did you do the majority of your training?



[kuts356]

they say that wing chun is heavely influenced by muay thai.Till now I couldn't see that similarity, now that I saw your videos it's obviously similar with osmt...however wing chun has denegerated over the years, especially the "european" branch.Your videos really helped to "unlock" some moves that are hidden in the forms.....thx

great job, keep posting!

[reverandrav]

Hey Donnie, I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time for putting these vids on the web man. I quit smoking back in 06 and started packing on the pounds. I was about 190 when I quit and a month ago I weighed in at 330. I came across your vids and started doing several of the shadow kicks and a few other techniques you have on here. I gotta say man I weighed in about 6 hours ago. I'm down to 295. It wasnt that hard either. I tried a couple other vids "Not Yours" and nearly passed out.

[KensaiZen]

good work on showing "bong" block "bid" closing "bud" pushing away "burd" opening. This is some of the basic blocking techniques of muay boran. keep up the good work :)

[mantisgold]

Kevin Bacon perhaps lol

[whotookdonnierules]

@mantisgold hahahha, I've gotten that one before.

[nuke1989]

which kru are u graduated under?

[whotookdonnierules]

@nuke1989 I've trained under Kru Suaan Nirmalya Bhowmick since 1994.

[nuke1989]

andrei alovski is there?! LOLOL j/k he looks just like him

[MaartenSFS]

I'm glad to see someone else respect the elbows. I think that because most martial arts styles don't permit their use in sparring they are neglected. I learned something quite similar to what you are doing in your videos in China. My teacher trained in Sanda (like Muay Thai but more heavily focused on throwing) and cross-trained in boxing and Muay Thai at some point. I loved what I was learning so much that I base my own "style" almost completely on stand-up grappling and elbows.

[monkey1526]

hey donnie b where is your gym located?

[jacq069]

It would be a great series for against a fence in an mma fight. Similar to dirty boxing in terms of range.

[6ftUnder92592]

why do people keep comparing this to the sport donnie b!

[whotookdonnierules]

@6ftUnder92592 some people just don't get it, man.

[GabbysMyKittyRawr]

Donnie, did you by any chance study Wing Chun? :p

[Donny2D]

@GabbysMyKittyRawr Speed fist?

[Donny2D]

@GabbysMyKittyRawr Speed fist?

[Donny2D]

@GabbysMyKittyRawr You mean that fast fist style?

[MrNflow]

tony jaa is a master on this :)

[Moderm101]

basically.. its a parry and an elbow... lol flower

[RabidxPanda]

as a wrestling/judo fan, i LURV this. puts you in a wonderful position for droppin his ass on the concrete :D

[juliowalker6]

man, you are awesome

[TransAmFSAS]

I see a wing chun "bong sao" in there. I see a lot of relations and similarities from all types of martial arts, making me wonder about what influenced what.

[Gr33nL34fSm0k3r]

i dont get how your breaking his guard can some one explain to me

[MrHueyhuey]

The techniques you are showing here look so much like Wing Tsun, especially the ways you open the guards.  Wing Tsun has some same moves.

[ArManiii060]

hahaha ass kicked at 2:26 :P nice vid btw :-D

[ankitsoodu]

nice explanation and good technique... however this isn't muay boran, just modern muay thai

[Mider999]

nice move

[giveshocker]

nice videos donnie, simple and easy to understand, thumbs up!

[mizdierbeatz]

LMAO @ 1:30

[landgabriel]

My question is why even try and get in close like that? Seems more logical to just gunt an arm, aim for the fists, and forearm muscles. Using the radius and ulnar bones, from the elbow joints up to the wrists, to destroy the opponents weapons. Land a good elbow strike to any of the bones of the hand and that's a broken bone. Just seems like there's not reason to specifically close in to the opponent unless the fight just ends up there de facto.

[HatenSuffering]

@landgabriel I guess what his trying to say is use it when your are happen to be that close. You can't throw a kick, or possibly a punch so, only left to do is a knee but in this case he used an elbow. Your are not trying to go close just so you could do that technique. Just in a certain point in a fight.

[Ronnock]

@landgabriel That seems effective as well. Why not try both? Or at least keep both in mind.

[shibalkeseki69]

@landgabriel this is muay thai not filipino martial arts

[patrickwise06]

i think just because someone is another race doesnt mean that they dont have exsperience

[smo0thi3]

interestingg.... old school ftw

[hitchikingalaxy]

This looks very much like wing chun. We call that technique a bong sao, though we use it differently. I like the potential of integrating kung fu and muay thai. The fact that the gap is bridged does help neutralize the boxer though, and that plays to our strength of knees and elbows.

[JoGenJG]

@hitchikingalaxy yes it looks very much like wing chun. BUT the "Bong sao" here, he's holding the other guy's hand. The opening flower technique is similar to wing chun's tan sao, my favorite technique :)

Why does the two martial art styles look so similar? They were invented by great people, and great mind think alike.

[demicyko]

u suck!!! BIG TYM!!!

[borntolive1]

hehe it is a nice video though

[borntolive1]

nice video..

im sorry but... HAHAHAHHAHA if u play and rewind 0.05 and 1:30 it's hillarious xD

.. dot com.. DOT GOOM!

[whotookdonnierules]

What can I say, I can't speak.... the .goom thing is a nod to an inside joke among some friends, But my tongue-tied bit there at 1:30, I have no excuse. I just couldn't form the words. And that, my friend, is why I'll never be a news anchor.

[BDub2176]

Are you mixing Muay Thai with Kung Fu? It looks better for streetfighting.

[randyds5]

I agree. looks like wing chun. BUt, its really muay boran

[sschmitz600]

Well you can be a new anchor... for FOX. Ha! :P

[TheDeadlyShins]

Of all the bullshit videos floating around on youtube, I have finally found someone that has some decent knowledge and is actually interesting to watch. Good work.

[LordOfTheSin]

your technique SUX !!!!! you are to close to your oponents first fist !! if you came to me so close i WILL punch you as much as i can.. THIS IS NOT GOOD TECHNIQUE !! you should to think about how to attack from bigger distance ;-) this is not good !! i can hit with me knee if you will be so close ;-) think about it man

[blakegrice]

youre not exposing the blade of the elbow at all.

[DJCienar]

what about the stance, you r a little bit close to your opp

[blueprophet9]

could you do an upload for throws and grappling? i see problems closing the gap on shuai jiao/judo/sanshou players like that.

oh yeah, you're badass and explain things real well. thanks for teachin'.

[RussianWinter]

Reminds me of Wing Chun :D

[ProGunner007]

This guy got beat up on mma with his flower thenique

[tybalt718]

not a bad vid, wonder if their are more way 2 apply that techquie in other ways

[HoracePL]

lol 1:30 >D

[whotookdonnierules]

I get tongue tied from time to time, but man, that was bad...  :)

[IchFresseTitanJa]

Donnie reminds me of E from the show Entourage. He's a complete hotty.

[yupiie]

so muay thai CAN be praticed not objectifying competition, but can be approached with a deeper, self defense means. I liked it. I´m starting my classes!

[LongDongSilver78]

nice vid. enjoyed watching. question though.. how would this work against an ace southpaw orthodox who has excellent speed and timing all day, who can load up with a 1-2 that doesn't rest.

[TheSuperbeanz]

We do those break falls in my martial arts center too! i guess almost everyone does it

[activecreative]

Absolutely unreal distance. Too close.

[whotookdonnierules]

Possibly in a sport context, but this strategy (and the close proximity) is ideal for high risk operators, EP profs, someone is in your face in a bar.

[TitanGeneral]

that video was great! I got a question for you.......

How do you get past the reach of someone who is taller than you and knows how to use it(his reach)

I was sparring this guy from another gym and he kept hitting me as I tried to get past his guard and reach! What do you suggest i do next time? is there any technique in particular I can use?

Thanks a lot and keep doing these vids I appreciate them.........peace!

[sh4ap]

try and time your counter attacks cos if he misses its gonna take him longer to regain a staionay position ro whatever if they go for like a round house move back as qucik as u can if he misses as he's bringing his leg back rush him and try to catch him off guard if that dosnt work try to go for low attacks and take away his legs thats what i would do

[FanatikosKafetzis]

Develop a fast front kick, not only to be able to use it in the scenario you describe - I will tell you what I mean. Generally whatever you do, do it fast, but NOT at the expense of technique.

You can use a fast front kick simultaneously with your block. If you try to approach a taller opponent, your guard must be up. If the taller guy punches you, then as you block kick him since his arm will be stretched to punch you. That means one shield less...

The footwork you use must allow an easy kick.

[seany83]

nice video, thank you for the upload

[TastyTeo]

I'm actually 12, today i fought with a student. My legs are long, i Punched him on the face, a kick on the stomach and K.O

[whotookdonnierules]

These techniques are similar in nature to wing chun (and jkd), however, where wing chung drives straight forward, when going to the outside I drive in at a 45 degree angle instead of stepping straight in. Almost all highly effective fighting techniques are universal, not exclusive to any one style.

[MikeUntstinks]

This type of clinch range fighting is also called trapping and is a foundation of another popular style - Wing Chun. In fact, Wing Chun and Muay Thai clinching go hand in hand very nicely.

[juukame]

i've seen lots other vids for defense with different martial arts styles but the old school muay thai/boran is by far one of the most effective and practical i've seen. nice vids

[juukame]

very simple, but effective technique, good show chap

[KillThatEmoChild]

I shit on your flower, you dont stand so close to the opponent with that long hands

[whotookdonnierules]

So you're saying that its beter to stay arms length from an opponent with a longer reach than you? I'd much rather get deep inside his range where the advantage of his reach is negated. Also - the these techniques are meant to help end a fight as fast as possible, not to square off and box it out with someone, but shit away if you feel the need.

[wannabeebee]

Numbwhatever that emo child stated

I shit on your flower, you dont stand so

close to the opponent with that long hands.

Answer.

The only shit here dude comes from your brain. Long hands? You mean long arms?

Why you not stand so close to someone?

You got a bad body smell?

[peterhui50]

GOd that is awesome

[patrickchanning]

opening the flower cool!!!!

[V10SuprA]

HAHAHAHA.

1:31.

[thegreatpizzaman]

jkd?

[hur1990]

effective technique... but someting to take note of here. Good boxer would never guard with his hands in a position like tat. Instead, his hands would be much closer to his body... so its gonna be quite difficult to perform the techniques shown in this vid. Not saying the tech is not good, it is extremely effective against noobish fighters, juz tat it cant be used in all circumstances.

[whotookdonnierules]

This technique is more effective in a street fight situation where you realize that you're going to have to fight the guy. It's a great first strike and much more effective than you may think, but i agree with you in respect to using this against a boxer in competition.

[sanrigan13]

You are right!

[sanrigan13]

Muay Thai warrior will be kick the boxer.

MT is universal fighting art, it's easy to learn, and dangerous in fight.

[MikeUntstinks]

You can use it against a boxer who guards close to his body. The difference is, instead of jerking open his guard, you check it against his body using one hand so his punch is jammed while your elbow slashes across his face.

[kattslaktarn]

Flower Power :D

[bkedp]

Good stuff. Opening the flowering looks like a great way to get into the clinch and share the love of knees.

[carlmas0n]

Great video im studying Muay Thai Boran, and it is alot different from the usual stuff on youtube e.g the sport side. Its nice to watch an old style muay thay video =]

[JKrazyShroomy]

this is that traditional, made for killin shit! this is the good shit, hard to find someone that will train it though...fuckin lethal man! i wish i could find someone that would be willing to train me and acctually knows the old school stuff

[FanatikosKafetzis]

Seems good, but a fast kicker (can't imagine a knee there, when you do that, ouch!! :-) )or someone who moves well can stop it, it seems to me.

But give me your opinion...

You think it should be used more often to speed up the KO when facing an inferior opponent? Equally good or better fighters may use it against you, from a point of view. Of course, the faster and more accurate you are, the better it is.

I have a feel it will work better if it is not your 1st move...

Thanks for posting:-)

[XxYunhXx]

well if u want to KO ur opponent that shows weakness because u want to end him with less skill. If u play fair and not KO him so quickly that means u have lots of skill and u are strong so i think u should weaken your opponent and show them ur true powa xd

[whotookdonnierules]

Think outside of the competition sports context guys.... This is something you'd use on the street. Who cares if you have more or less skill than some guy or guys who jump you in a bar. End the fight before his friends (or the cops) show up. You weaken your opponent by taking advantage of the element of surprise and your level of aggression, he'll know your true power when he doesn't know what hit him.