Sanders Tries to Get Straight Answer from EPA Admin

[jpmorgan187]

Despicable, spineless piece of fucking shit.

[hxcthomas]

scum. freaking. bag.

[borjon23]

What is the point of hearings if they can't compel answers from the people who appear?

[Paolo7219]

@borjon23 I think the term is Kabuki Theater.

[borjon23]

@Paolo7219

Ah, yes. I tip my hat to you, sir.

[XxiTz5mUrFxX]

talking to stephen johnson is torture.. he won't give a fucking answer! as i said, as i said, as i said

[illmagnified]

I hate this fat rubber necked LIAR! HES A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF SCUM BAG ELITEST WHO WE ARE GIVING OUR POWER TO! WAKE UP AMERICA! THIS IS NOTHING NEW!~

[LyNtRuTh]

w0w, 1st time I've ever heard of Sanders...hahaHA, You get'em boy..they're ALL CROOKs!

As for the guy who keeps ranting @kzac2 EPA is a cover for NASA...whom uses military programs called HAARP & HIPAS to MODIFY/CREATE WEATHER...and YES, they also use HAARP to tear a hole in the ionoshpere wherever they'd like to create their FAKE GLOBAL WARMING..!

[Shauncore]

shoot this guy, how is he the head of the EPA? He doesn't even know what he is talking about

[microflex22]

Wish I had a Senator like that!

[ELMOcall911]

dude SENETOR SANDERS ROCK!!!!

[MrWHITEVIPER69]

Isn't amazing how many people declare with thier double talk that they want to swing from a rope?

[WarmBread123]

kzac shut the fuck up faggot

[kzac2]

This Marxist "Sanders" is asking questions of the EPA Chief that are based on a failed theory, as if it were fact. Biospheric rift is based on Marx theory of metabolic rift which has been proven over time to be a complete failure (the same as his other theories). There is no Global Warming (biospheric rift) its a farce people. It just Marxist spewing of very generalized, unfounded, nonfactual delusion. It can not be answered because it does not exit.

[medartist01]

Your bigotry is the big elephant in the room, kzac2. Hang it up, your argument about Sanders is moot. The subject of this video is clearly the inability of the EPA Chief to admit, under a brilliant cross-examination by Sanders, that he LIED about how his decision came about regarding the waiver. Johnson refused to admit that his decision was based on politics and NOT science. Clearly. As for your hatred of Sanders, we get that. By the way, youre a tremendously poor judge of character. Bozo.

[kzac2]

1) Bigot is unwarranted hatred, therefore in you desperate attempt to be intelligent, you show your ignorance.

2) Sanders is a Marxist. He is an admitted Marxist and there is evidence galore that he is a Marxist.

3) Global Warming (biospheric rift) is a farce, a complete rouse. Cleverly constructed by Marxist to deceive the American public

Johnson was correct in not answering Mr. Sanders biospheric rift ranting. There are no specifics from Sanders just wild accusations and generalities.

[bweazel]

If a marxist is what it takes to get rid of these corrupt capitalists more power to him. But really calling these people capitalists is too kind. They're theives. I agree with you on global warming, but you are being a bigot. You defined it incorrectly by the way. A bigot is one who is intolerent of any differing belief. In your case, anything that differs from capitalism most likely. That's a bigot. That's why he called you one

[SirMeowMeow]

continued,

even if Sanders or Johnson are right or wrong in any manner on the issues of global warming or the distribution of materials and power in society (with respect to your claims of Marxism), the point which Sanders brings up is still striking to me: On a highly important issue, why did EPA Chief Johnson uncharacteristically reveal information on the rejection of CA's waiver on the same night it would be likely that media/press attention on that very night would be on President Bush.

[montroclq]

can anybody see that this was more of gwb's lies plain and simple!

[montroclq]

he should be our president

[kzac2]

People!! your are listening to an admitted Marxist drill the director of our EPA. "Global Warming" as the phrase has been coined is really biospheric rift. Don't be misled by a Marxist like Bernie Sanders, Just google biospheric rift and Socialism or Marxism and you will get your answers. Its a clever plot by the Marxist Sanders to build fear in the minds of the public. You are being sucked into Marxist stupidity. The next thing he will have you saying is Comrade Sanders

[MomSaysImCool]

He's a democratic socialist, not a Marxist. Do you even know what democratic socialism is? It's basically the left-wing opposite of democratic capitalism. Capitalism is just as extremist democratic socialism. He's not talking about a Lenin-style "dictatorship of the people". To write any person off for their political beliefs is un-American bigotry.

[kzac2]

Mom Says Im cool

1) It is my right as a American to speak freely concerning the Marxist dialectic which is the basis for (Socialism Communism). You are incorrect socialism is Marxism. Marx himself referred to socialism as stage one communism

2) Capitalism is not extremist Marxism, as capitalism is defined by the Marxist dialectic as the oppressor of the people and everything wrong with the world. Therefore, it is defined as the enemy of the state.

[niggerizationofusa22]

Johnson=fat azz neocon

[moneymagnetelizabeth]

Senator Sanders, you are experiencing first hand what Americans go through whenever one calls up an agency or other political office to get an answer to a question. The run around! No one is accountable.

[sanarkhos]

IT WAS UNIQUE!

UNIQUE I SAY!!!

Ugh, get off the script.

This is only going to get worse when the DNC gets a super-majority and the White House.

To all partisans reading this: You destroyed this country and I hate you >:(

[UTBESUX]

George Bush hired INEXPERIENCED workers from EXXON and they changed laws while Americans were sleeping. Then those people would "retire" and go back to work for EXXON. let me simply say Bush has sold America to the Corporate fascists that is the facts.

[qazwas2001]

I would like to see that smug prick's brains dripping off of a sledge hammer...

[moejardines]

Wow, this smug bastard is so clearly full of crap it is unbelievable. . . oh wait, I forgot about the last 7 years. . . .

[bebop54]

sanders & whitehouse both NYC boys ! ....

we need more straight talkin' cut & dried hearings like this .....

hopefully that slimeball johnson will be exposed for what he is !

[emanon111]

Every Bushie brown-noser sounds the same. Answer the damn question! "As I tried to say..."??? So smug and arrogant. Why don't you test pesticides on your lawn!

[mvertigo16]

the smugness of this administration just cascades down from bush to every level. how many administrators have to act like this?

[dafttool]

4:12 to 4:17 what a pompus ass

[mfyyre]

What a shameless display of criminality! No wonder he's head of the EPA!

[immanent]

So, the IPCC, funded by billions of tax dollars to promote global warming as "settled science," and a creation of the U.N., a well known puppet organization of global monied interests, says its definitive, and we believe them outright? They want to tax us further, so they can subsidize more worthless alternatives like ethanol, steal a little in the process, and keep forcing developing 3rd world countries into abject poverty and debt.

Hook. Line. Sinker.

[pakiman47]

what about the vast vast majority of non-ipcc scientists who concur?

you are dumb as hell

[crazycatfguy]

In the 70's the polar ice caps grew quickly. satellite images showed unusual amounts of snow. Crop failures and tornado's were all blamed on global COOLING. Scientist thought the only way to save the planet was to drop black graphite on the caps so the sun would melt them. They went looking for statistics to try to explain it and came up with some they thought did. Sunlight reaching the earths surface declined by 1.3% over a few years.

[PreetSG]

You told me this earlier. Now, allow me to answer the question. In 1975, the Sun went through one of its 11 year cycles at its min peak value. The 11, 17 and 23 years solar heat cycles was only known in the mid 80s, (the 100+ cycles were known even later). Then NG predicted another "ice age of sorts when they found out. By right, we should be the min-peak of the 11-year solar cycle but yet the temperature is rising. Global warming is a fact not fiction!

[crazycatfguy]

You went to a pro global warming blog for that info did you not? That is not what happened.

[PreetSG]

NO, I went to National Geograhic to ask (I worked with them before for project research). You can also checked it out at Wikipedia and search global warming to see the solar cycle chart. They got the graph for 11 years cycle.

[crazycatfguy]

You need someone skilled in deprogramming cult members. This world is in trouble, not because of global warming but because of gullible people. Gore's theory is so full of holes it is laughable and yet people keep talking to me about science. Check the science that is missing from Gore's theory because he cherry picked what he needed to support his tax plan.

[PreetSG]

Gullible people on this issue? Dude you are the one that is being introvert not the world being gullible. You are looking at your dollars now instead of lives in the future. It is not Gore's theory that I am basing my stuff on, it is the facts! Global warming is a proven scientific fact, it is not because of the oceans r volcanoes as some of the counter theories are. It is human activity. Please try to disprove it...

[crazycatfguy]

GLOBAL WARMING IS AN ESTABLISHED FACT! I have never said it was not. I am saying that if you look at ALL THE SCIENCE CO2 is not the problem. You can prove it with a weather balloon. Greenhouse gases accumulate at about 4 kilometers high in the atmosphere. If that was trapping heat you find it warmer there than at the surface. LOOK AT THE SCIENCE.

[PreetSG]

Firstly it is not just the CO2, it is the Carbon. Just the C and anything that has C in gaseous form. You want to talk about science, then lets solve it in a scientific way. Place a digital thermometer in a towel. In one inverted rounded test tube place concentration of air in the ratio of what it is supposed to be. In the other flask place it in the concentration of 24% O2 and 1% CO2. Place both in side by side. Observe the results.

[crazycatfguy]

If the weather has changed in the past without the help of man why is everyone so damn sure that we are the only cause of it today. If it is man made is it possible that is because the US and Russia have been modifying the weather since 1950 and China since 1958. In the early 50's 10 percent of cloud formations (US) were caused by cloud seeding. The government just approved a new method for modification. Find out what that is and see if has anything to do with greenhouse gases.

[PreetSG]

Oh come on! If we are manipulating the weather, why can't we get a proper forecast? We are not manipulating the weather and no government would ever dare try that. By the way, we do not use dry ice for cloud seeding anymore, we use silver Iodide. Even if cloud seeding is used, it is a last resort measure used to create rain; and the amount of CO2 used if at all is not more than what an oak tree can absorb in hour..

[crazycatfguy]

I don't understand people who have strong opinions and no interest at all in finding out whether or not they have any freaking idea of what they are talking about. Google or get lost.

[wongkar]

After all that bullshit, what's your point?? We have found that the emmision of gases is harmful to every ecosystem on earth. It is something that should be changed. Why are you going to such extreme lengths to make such a dubious apology? Whats so bad about being more careful for the enviroment?

[crazycatfguy]

You can't figure out what my point was?

[PreetSG]

Who here has no freaking idea what they are talking about... I gave you the opportunity to do a scientific experiment for yourself to see. Who here lacks the facts? Google stuff, yeah in the net you get to see a lot of BS, do it and learn yourself. GO GET A FREAKING EDUCATION!!! And when people throw facts in your face, do not tell them to get lost. Analyze the facts and digest it. I did it with you comment...

[crazycatfguy]

How would that prove CO2 causes global warming? The weather is affected by many things. Greenhouse gas, ocean currents, wind currents etc. Don't forget the solar winds and magnetic storms alter the magnetosphere which controls what sun rays hit the earth. Many things affect our climate. Please take a look at some of the other scientific theories before you put all your eggs in one basket.

[PreetSG]

I answered you question with that experiment to show how Carbon traps heat, and you still do not get it. Geo-magnetic storms affect temperature? You do know that Solar winds is magnetic in nature and not thermal right? That was already proven in the 60s.

[crazycatfguy]

What made you think out of all of our discourse that I did not think that carbon traps heat? The magnetosphere is a flowing thing that can be affected by solar winds and magnetic storms. Please dude, if you do some research and decide that co2 is the cause then we can agree to disagree. Until you do that why should anyone accept your opinion as fact?

[PreetSG]

Again, look at it at a scientific point of view. What has changed that during a period when we should be cooling down, our temperature is rising? The ocean/ wind currents? The population of the ocean or the volcanic eruptions. Then you find the finger points all the way back to us.

[crazycatfguy]

Science science science. If you would take the time to look at ALL the science and then decided that CO2 was the reason then we could agree to disagree. Until you do that you have no idea whether you are enlightening the ignorant masses or regurgitating propaganda.

[PreetSG]

It is not CO2, it is C. Any thing with Carbon... I would not read everything, as I said, we have got to prove it. That is science. It is not the theories, it is the facts. Fact: We are polluting more now than anytime in our history. Fact: Those pollution causes C to raise in the air and trap heat and cause our temperature to rise. Fact: We got to do something about it and we can. Scandinavian countries and Brazil did something about it, so can we!

[EricCougar]

The concern is not the weather changing. The concern is the destruction of the Earths ability regulate and correct those changes, thus making them more severe and destructive over time. Think of the earth like you body. noone worries if your temperature goes up or down a bit, because you have an immune system that will right it. we're destroying the earths "immune system." Weather change itself isnt the problem, its the symptom of a much larger proble

[smoothmedia]

lol you are a complete idiot.

[Randomambusher]

Bernie Sanders rocks.

[kzac2]

You should have said Comrade Sanders rocks. If you like Bernie, you would like living in Russia. The guys a devout Marxist. Look up Bernie Sanders and Democratic Socialists of America, the PES (party of european socialists), and the Progressive Caucus. Then look right here on You tube and find Yuri Bezmenov. only then will you start to understand

[marcusjansen239369]

descusting scumbags!!!!

[gbgzp]

Man, what a despicable scumbag. I wish Sen Sanders would've gotten out of his chair and choked his fat neck.

[ColdCypher]

@gbgzp Maybe you should assassinate him.

[nothankyoumam]

Another fine example of the Bush Admin standing tall, obfuscating, delaying, twisting, spitting, and shitting in the face of the American people. When is enough, going to be enough? Take these bastards and throw them the fuck out!

[kzac2]

Your listening to a Marxist. Sanders is without doubt the most evil Marxist since Lenin. Notice how he accuses Johnson with his general remarks about global warming? Where are the specifics? Specifically what scientific studies show evidence of global warming? Its a theory only! and its called the theory of biospheric rift its based on Marx's metabolic rift theory. Get wise!

[kwakzzang]

i agre-

[Shultzgti]

All these senators are bold-faced liars! Global warming may be happening but the fact that our politicians are making it political tells me their agenda is not in the best interest of the American people. This is about politics and profiteering.

[checked08]

How long have you wanted to say that? or how many times?

[Shultzgti]

At least I have something worthwhile to say. Go on believing your Democrat versus Republican BS, fool. Doesn't the fact that the Cheney impeachment was shot down by these traitors tell you anything?

[gbgzp]

"I have something worthwhile to say"? I think most people would object to that. And how is Sen. Sanders lying for his political agenda? Everyone has an agenda. In this case, it's for doing something about Global Warming. I don't equate that with trying to get funds to build a bridge to nowhere. This hearing is about how the EPA ruled the way they did in spite of their own scientists contradicting this blowhard EPA administrator. Pull your head out of your ass!

[Ender1zero1]

I sure hope his wife GF and/or BF have better luck getting an answer out of Steven Johnson then this committee does.

[kzac2]

How do you answer an railing of accusation that is not based on fact? Bernie produced no facts just generalizations related to a theory. Global Warming or biospheric rift is a theory based on Marx metabolic rift. There is nothing Steven can do to thwart or protect against a theory. Your just watching the Marxist channel brought to you by Youtube and Bernie Sanders

[SirMeowMeow]

kzac2, neither Sanders nor Johnson are discussing the validity or invalidity of global warming or anything regarding the distribution and power in society. If you desired to bring us clarity, then surely you would have brought us arguments that more closely reflects the reality of this video clip than to mislead us in a sidetrack.

It is TIRESOMELY (too much repetition) obvious in this clip that the discussion at hand centers on suspicions regarding the manner of information release.

[kzac2]

Sir Meow Meow (I suspect some cute cat inspired name) What I discussed is exactly the point. Sanders is completely absorbed in Hegel based Marxism, and the very topic that he is discussing (biospheric rift - aka global warming) is based on Karl Marx theory of metabolic rift, which has proven over time to be incoherent rambling. Why should the EPA respond to another application Marx's failed theory of metabolic rift? Look at the mound of evidence indicating Marx's theories are failures.