I agree about the chicks thing. I don't care what kind of music it is I always look to see if it draws an equal number women and men. Unfortunately so called "jazz" is falling into the heavy metal, fusion, hard rock and most of the time electric blues zone. In other words "dudes" getting off on "dudes" music. Unfortunately us guitar players are too testosterone driven to notice that the ladies have left the joint. Get them to move their ass and the rest will follow.
@electropower58 ... I've been to Adam Rogers and Jonathan Krisberg gigs in NYC a couple of years back, both of them had hot asian girlfriends in attendance.
@6stringdaveyM Who cares whether are not most women like our music. Hell, I know a lot of women that get off to Kurt. I know some female players that are as burning as he is. Not all the ladies have left the joint. In fact, a lot of them are getting in the joint, hopping up on the bandstand and playing some really sick shit. Men are the ones that fall into the media's advertising pitfalls more. Why do you think beer commercials always feature attractive women and sports?
My first impression of Kurt many years ago was another Pat Martino knock off. But over the years he has developed into a fine player of his own. In his first records his solos were very honest not technical. His newest performances are very heady and seem deliberate not spontaneous. I am sure he is making headway and we will observe wonderfully creative music from him as he matures throughout his life. I am looking forward to his music 5 years from now.
OK, so does that mean Stevie Wonder and Bill Withers and Al Green are Jazz musicians? Most of their songs have ii V I 's. Jazz is a language...its NOT about technical abilities, its about a vocabulary. Most people cant understand or speak it, so people think its nonsense or "self indulgent". I dont think you should "die" anymore but you should listen to John Coltrane.
Why do people on youtube always call jazz musicians "jazzers"? Thats the dumbest thing ever. What the hell is a Jazzer?And if you think Jamiroquai has anything to do with jazz, then kill yourself.
Well..."jazzer" is obviously a coined word that illustrates/catagorizes a certain type of musician.
Although respected for their technical abilities, jazzers are most often seen as self indulgent musicians...
As for Jamiroquai, they have performed at jazz festivals around the world. You'll find chord patterns (II, V7, I's...as well as many chord substitutions) that you'll not usually find in pop music.
I appreciate this clip for what it is (I've been playing long enough to understand...).
However, I feel that music loses something when it becomes too much about "modes", "changes" and "atypical phrasing/time signatures"... a.k.a. "math"...
If you want to check out cool melodies/changes, listen to Jamiroquai.
bach had introduced mathematical ideas into music which turned out be sound great, but you dont have to see it as mathematics, it doesnt really matter anyways, its all just music and i sure like it
yeah, and i consider those guys particularly metheny and kurt to be great guitar players technically speaking, they dont seem at all technically limited... its well knows that metheny is a weird player in terms of technique but i think kurt is pretty normal for a lot of jazz guys, he doesnt change position like a classical player and his technique/chops are completely on point, up there with anybody in terms of him being able to express himself. i think ill just keep going the way i am for now.
which if i'm understanding you correctly is the way you're predisposed to practise. if it works for you, stick with it and develop it. i think a defining factor of many master guitar players is their technique came from what they were hearing, rather than arbitrarily practising in a particular way.
you make an interesting point about Adam Rogers. he's a trained classical guitarist, and you need to really really really practise your position shifts to learn that repertoire. you have make accurate leaps from your fourth the your first finger over large distances often, probably why Rogers changes position in the way you've noticed. most jazz players of the older school like Wes or Benson and Metheny and Kurt too tend to slip and slide around the neck a lot
(Kurt's genius aside) :: do i keep practicing the way i am leading all over the guitar with pinky sometimes up and forefinger down with my hand constant or change the way im practicing so that im changing postions all the time im ascending and descending the neck. the way im doing it now seems to be working out for me although i now feel like its 'incorrect'. can anybody help with this?
so when i think of someone who can change positions like crazy and does that when he plays i think of adam rogers, but when i take a look at kurt here and other places he seems to lead at times with his pinky on the e string going up, and things like that his hand is rather constant and hes playing the whole guitar, the hand isnt slamming into position all over the guitar like adam rogers, and i am prettyu influenced by kurt so heres my question:
i have an important question if anyone here can answer it, i do an excercise for warmup and technique where i play scales all over the neck, and realized the other day that i lead all weird on the neck with my pinky up and forefinger down instead of my hand flying into position when i get to higher or lower registers. i figured i should change this but then on second thought i dont think it imposes any sort of limitation on my actual playing, i seem to play different than i do this scale ex.
I have to admit when I first heard Kurt I wasn't blown away either...but when you really delve into his playing, you realise there is nobody out there with such a deep sense of harmony, who treats the guitar so pianistically (is that a word?). I've seen Kurt do things that take my breath away, so you should give him a chance...
@atavismnocturn I voted you down only because I really dislike statements like this. I think this /right now/ about Kurt Rosenwinkel, but last year I had a different favorite guitarist. This whole "best" or "most" or our "generation" or "time" or something is just ridiculous.
Its not a hype, its art. Hype doesnt last, they come and go but art is timeless. For me Kurt represents art of the moment. If you dont get it, you just dont, its personal...
I can be totally lost, but it could be "Preguntas"? Listen to watch?v=cI7u73Lw9U4&feature=related were Kurt plays that tune. Could it be the same one? I think so myself. Best, regards! Sandemose
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Zarrinkoub 11 months ago
dude, thats jorge rossy on drums! yea!
handdancin 1 year ago
I agree about the chicks thing. I don't care what kind of music it is I always look to see if it draws an equal number women and men. Unfortunately so called "jazz" is falling into the heavy metal, fusion, hard rock and most of the time electric blues zone. In other words "dudes" getting off on "dudes" music. Unfortunately us guitar players are too testosterone driven to notice that the ladies have left the joint. Get them to move their ass and the rest will follow.
6stringdaveyM 1 year ago
@6stringdaveyM . Who gives a sh##t! Women... only listen to crap...to move their ass. If you wanna get laid...don´t use real music for it...okay?
electropower58 1 year ago 3
@electropower58 ... I've been to Adam Rogers and Jonathan Krisberg gigs in NYC a couple of years back, both of them had hot asian girlfriends in attendance.
icecreamforcrowhurst 4 days ago
@6stringdaveyM Who cares whether are not most women like our music. Hell, I know a lot of women that get off to Kurt. I know some female players that are as burning as he is. Not all the ladies have left the joint. In fact, a lot of them are getting in the joint, hopping up on the bandstand and playing some really sick shit. Men are the ones that fall into the media's advertising pitfalls more. Why do you think beer commercials always feature attractive women and sports?
guitarhero343 9 months ago 3
My first impression of Kurt many years ago was another Pat Martino knock off. But over the years he has developed into a fine player of his own. In his first records his solos were very honest not technical. His newest performances are very heady and seem deliberate not spontaneous. I am sure he is making headway and we will observe wonderfully creative music from him as he matures throughout his life. I am looking forward to his music 5 years from now.
oldpython 1 year ago
OK, so does that mean Stevie Wonder and Bill Withers and Al Green are Jazz musicians? Most of their songs have ii V I 's. Jazz is a language...its NOT about technical abilities, its about a vocabulary. Most people cant understand or speak it, so people think its nonsense or "self indulgent". I dont think you should "die" anymore but you should listen to John Coltrane.
alldaytoobin 1 year ago
is that jeorge rossy on drums?
freckleface409 2 years ago
Why do people on youtube always call jazz musicians "jazzers"? Thats the dumbest thing ever. What the hell is a Jazzer?And if you think Jamiroquai has anything to do with jazz, then kill yourself.
alldaytoobin 2 years ago
Dance!
atavismnocturn 2 years ago
Well..."jazzer" is obviously a coined word that illustrates/catagorizes a certain type of musician.
Although respected for their technical abilities, jazzers are most often seen as self indulgent musicians...
As for Jamiroquai, they have performed at jazz festivals around the world. You'll find chord patterns (II, V7, I's...as well as many chord substitutions) that you'll not usually find in pop music.
Listen to: Time Won't Wait, or Starchild
...no need for anyone to die;)
FunkCowboy 1 year ago
For me, music exists in three places:
the head, the heart and the hips.
I tend to prefer the "heart" and the "hips"...
I appreciate this clip for what it is (I've been playing long enough to understand...).
However, I feel that music loses something when it becomes too much about "modes", "changes" and "atypical phrasing/time signatures"... a.k.a. "math"...
If you want to check out cool melodies/changes, listen to Jamiroquai.
Besides, "chicks" actually come to their gigs...
FunkCowboy 2 years ago
"ok"
raachel24biilson 2 years ago
@FunkCowboy
ya this particular clip wasn't that melodic. but if you saw the entire thing, I'm sure you might appreciate it more.
NateParton 1 year ago
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I know these guys are great "jazzers"...But, this is what happens when "math geeks" learn to play an instrument...lol...
FunkCowboy 2 years ago
bach had introduced mathematical ideas into music which turned out be sound great, but you dont have to see it as mathematics, it doesnt really matter anyways, its all just music and i sure like it
JustusFriedolin 2 years ago
metheny
eysikal 2 years ago
yeah, and i consider those guys particularly metheny and kurt to be great guitar players technically speaking, they dont seem at all technically limited... its well knows that metheny is a weird player in terms of technique but i think kurt is pretty normal for a lot of jazz guys, he doesnt change position like a classical player and his technique/chops are completely on point, up there with anybody in terms of him being able to express himself. i think ill just keep going the way i am for now.
guitardrew05 3 years ago
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which if i'm understanding you correctly is the way you're predisposed to practise. if it works for you, stick with it and develop it. i think a defining factor of many master guitar players is their technique came from what they were hearing, rather than arbitrarily practising in a particular way.
bburnbro 3 years ago
you make an interesting point about Adam Rogers. he's a trained classical guitarist, and you need to really really really practise your position shifts to learn that repertoire. you have make accurate leaps from your fourth the your first finger over large distances often, probably why Rogers changes position in the way you've noticed. most jazz players of the older school like Wes or Benson and Metheny and Kurt too tend to slip and slide around the neck a lot
bburnbro 3 years ago
(Kurt's genius aside) :: do i keep practicing the way i am leading all over the guitar with pinky sometimes up and forefinger down with my hand constant or change the way im practicing so that im changing postions all the time im ascending and descending the neck. the way im doing it now seems to be working out for me although i now feel like its 'incorrect'. can anybody help with this?
guitardrew05 3 years ago
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bburnbro 3 years ago
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bburnbro 3 years ago
Why not do both? Improvisation is the time to set yourself free... why limit that freedom to one or the other?
fiddlercrab3 3 years ago
check out mick goorich's 'advancing guitarist'. Wicked book, will help with blending both position playing and horizontal playing
riverblind 2 years ago
so when i think of someone who can change positions like crazy and does that when he plays i think of adam rogers, but when i take a look at kurt here and other places he seems to lead at times with his pinky on the e string going up, and things like that his hand is rather constant and hes playing the whole guitar, the hand isnt slamming into position all over the guitar like adam rogers, and i am prettyu influenced by kurt so heres my question:
guitardrew05 3 years ago
i have an important question if anyone here can answer it, i do an excercise for warmup and technique where i play scales all over the neck, and realized the other day that i lead all weird on the neck with my pinky up and forefinger down instead of my hand flying into position when i get to higher or lower registers. i figured i should change this but then on second thought i dont think it imposes any sort of limitation on my actual playing, i seem to play different than i do this scale ex.
guitardrew05 3 years ago
dont get a hype, geeze hes one of the best jazz players out there right now
jazzguitar1221 3 years ago
Jorge rossy on drums?? nice!
herhecht 3 years ago
Anyone know what tune this is?
fluffhead059 3 years ago
what kind of guitar is that? its so cool
releasethefrogs 3 years ago
its a sadowski semi-hollow
fluffhead059 3 years ago
I thought he was the greatest player I'd ever heard the first time I saw him...
atavismnocturn 3 years ago
I have to admit when I first heard Kurt I wasn't blown away either...but when you really delve into his playing, you realise there is nobody out there with such a deep sense of harmony, who treats the guitar so pianistically (is that a word?). I've seen Kurt do things that take my breath away, so you should give him a chance...
butrunioigneor 3 years ago
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i dont get the hype , just a standard jazz player , hes good though
SolBeing 3 years ago
he's probably the most brilliant of our generation.
atavismnocturn 3 years ago
@atavismnocturn I voted you down only because I really dislike statements like this. I think this /right now/ about Kurt Rosenwinkel, but last year I had a different favorite guitarist. This whole "best" or "most" or our "generation" or "time" or something is just ridiculous.
samadhist 1 year ago
mark turner? tight!
Patrick323 3 years ago
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i don't get the hype...sounds like a poor man's allen holdsworth
what ever happened to melodic soloing
even when mccoy and followers do their thing
it is melodic. guitarists sometimes don't get it.
johnarchtop 3 years ago
its a matter of what context, i saw kurt at smalls play all standards in a trio format...incredibly melodic.. He plays with tons of emotion.
sysphus13 3 years ago 2
yeah, i think it all has to do with who he's playing with. this group seems really free
jazzguitar27 3 years ago
Its not a hype, its art. Hype doesnt last, they come and go but art is timeless. For me Kurt represents art of the moment. If you dont get it, you just dont, its personal...
Sandemose 3 years ago
Yeeaaah!
bozodam 3 years ago
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i am with you , i play as good this and i have jazz friends that can as well
SolBeing 3 years ago
Haha, funniest comment ever. Please post when you play, then give me time to gather enaugh air to laugh through 2009. Meet you on the other side...
Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago
Thanks!! What's the name of this song?
takauya 3 years ago
I can be totally lost, but it could be "Preguntas"? Listen to watch?v=cI7u73Lw9U4&feature=related were Kurt plays that tune. Could it be the same one? I think so myself. Best, regards! Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago
Thank You!
wh4teva 3 years ago