All Blacks: Why the Haka happens before the Game

[HorssingIT]

@flashart k1 champ ray sefo, biggest hitter EVER david tua. The way you speak is as if theres been a good Afro Am. heavy in the past decade lol

[JimTheDj1965]

total respect from scotland to the haka... nothing can beat it...

[khaz1993]

Well back then if you didnt respect the haka, they would of killed you anyways!! That part made me laugh but true story

[flashart]

I still think it's a act of intimidation designed to pysche out the opposition and give the All Blacks an unfair advantage - which as World Chapions they don't need.

Incidently - If you sung songs like that at a domestic British Game- you'd be jailed for inciting Sectarian Hatred. My second point is that most of the All Black Players are - and have been White Europeans- so for them to claim an 'insult to their heritage ' is absolute garbage.

[flashart]

Can anyone name me a single New Zealand Martial Arts Competitor- let alone Champion ?

Step in the Ring One on One with a 19 year old Mike Tyson -Go 15 Rounds with Mohammed Ali - or Step on the Mat with Royce Gracia - then you can call yourself a 'Warrior.'

[ChannelMitchy13]

Drowning out tradition with another tradition is tradition, not doing so means you have no tradition and is a disrespect to others with whom you are supposed to have tradition with. Tradition!

[bettypro]

So the opposing team standing in oppisition while the war cry is going on during a rugby game etc. is a show of acceptance? this woman from Californa is confused on that point. I LOVE the war cry but I loved the english drowing it out (the audience) with thier traditional songs from the watchers..I didnt find it disrespectful at all it was tradition. This is so cool !!! I may just start watching Rugby LOL

[temokam]

tradition , says the white who exterminated half of the maori people , raped their women and stole their land , for me a white man performing haka is just a joke and lacks of credibility

[alternativebassist]

@temokam ok I'm looking at the guy making the explanation...and now looking at your comment and I'm thinking that that has to be the stupidest, most blind not to mention arrogant thing I have ever heard! Have a look at the guy; have a good hard look and then take your cultural bigotry, ignorance and stupidity and get a life

[MYkelloGs]

funny how in the old black/white photo, the all blacks are actually all white...

[CrociatoAzzurro]

lack of respect to the opponent...

[86nugget19]

once were warriors

[20verona]

@86nugget19 That film is mortifyingly sad. And the Haka in that is used at a funeral so I imagine the Haka's meaning in New Zealand tradition has evolved beyond war tradition into something bigger

[244Ohiro]

Glen Osborne doesn't know what the FUCK he's talking about!

[suirvale]

i never want to go to newzealand if they have such culure befoe rthe kik a ball around the field,.wonder waht other peculiarities go on there,..

[luapyerac]

@alexxxnewzealand Fair enough, in the days of straight lines of marching troops led by the landed gentry into the meat grinder but the Wehrmacht,SS troops or the Fallschirmjäger in ww2 would have shot there sorry asses!!

[luapyerac]

ok accepted..so next time England play New zealand..England.should line up in two lines like they did for 250yrs and march forward with fixed bayonets or call in the royal artillery and fire 20 rds for effect..or god forbid if the Germans ever play the game my they should all goosestep around the pitch and sing Erika...its intimadtion in sport..and its time has come.sorry Kiwis...but move on.theres a big great world out there and guess what is not inhabited with orcs,Fairies or dwarves

[alexxxnewzealand]

@luapyerac Funny you should mention that. In World War One the New Zealand army stood above the trenches and did a haka. The German army could have shot them but instead they ran for their lives.

[luapyerac]

@alexxxnewzealand fair point mate but I doubt in WW2 that it would have impressed the Japs or the Crack units of the Wehrmacht,SS or Fallschirmjaeger.but I respect your Historical point abrave thing they did.

[ak47popper]

@luapyerac that's why the Maori battalion were one the most respected units in WW2...

[suirvale]

do they do the haka in all sports they play,.,.i cannotmagine a guy doing it in a boxing ring,.does the newzealand army do it i wonder,

[happik]

@suirvale to answer your question, yes in most team sports they do the haka and yes the army have their own haka, which is awesome!

[sideru]

@suirvale, just to follow up on happik, Tu Matauenga (Maori god of war) is the Haka that the RNZIR do

[Anadkm1985]

That right god damn it. "They will still come and probably just kill you anyway" and that goes for the 2 (Aussies probably) who disliked this video

[TheByrdWhoLovesRock]

If I played rugby, my response would either be a battle roar, of a native american war cry(little cherokee) and wouldn't care if my team thinks im an idiot.

[macvatu]

why do they do the HAKA??....its to scare the living shit out of you !! What you actually get during the game fair old drubbing and a kick up the arse !!

[TheLadymele]

usi

[AngeloBaltas]

How come individual players don't do the haka?

Just asking.

[cld3333]

@AngeloBaltas because the haka was done by the tribe as a whole before the fight, unless it was single combat. Not to mention, why do the haka individualy when the entire team is there to support eachother?

[rhys4eva]

haka really got on my nerves lol when i had to do it at skool

[MrCedarPawn]

What happens if the other team makes fun of them by dancing hula or the robot? That'd be hysterical!

[C24B9]

@MrCedarPawn how about the Macarena? I think that would cause the All Black's to boil over. Okay, I'm saying that facetiously. The haka is a challenge, and I think it should be accepted as such, and (if the opposing team so chooses) responded to as such. Frankly, I loved the "silent" welsh response. That was awesome. It was respectful, in the sense of there's no denying what NZ meant by it, but, it was met with dignity and "professionalism." (not the right word, but...you know!) Cheers!

[MrGcoms]

Nice work Ozzie it is a challenge to all opponents on the field. If you didnt come prepared for what is about to take place then hard luck for them aeh

[JLOMU11]

kind of ironic that the haka is known worldwide as part of maori culture when that culture has been pissed all over in n.z. i love it, but if i'd have had to face it someone would have got my elbow in their face.

[Bicnec]

@JLOMU11 yeah ok tough guy. How's the weather on fantasy island.

[maoribattalion]

@Bicnec lmao

[briquetaverne]

It's too bad that American's aren't too much into Rugby or Soccer because I would love to see an American response (you know something like the Commanche war scream or the Apache death cry). personally, I like Rugby more because it's close to American football in its rules and I can sort of follow what's going on. Soccer, however, is beginning to take hold in popularity because a large Latino population has begun to appear in the States this last quarter century.

[MrCedarPawn]

@briquetaverne I think a good American response would be to make fun of them by dancing hula or the robot. That'd be hysterical!

[EvKrusty]

@MrCedarPawn yeah wouldn't recommend it, carry on like that would only pour fuel on the fire. Much like poking a rabid dog with a pointy stick...might be funny at the time but it will only come back to bite you on the bum once the game kicks off. And believe me there's nowhere to hide on a footy field, and plenty of opportunities for payback. Best to face it honourably like a man, use their challenge to firm your own constitution and prepare for war accordingly

[cstrobel86]

@EvKrusty yes, at high school first15. the other team use to pump us up when they did the haka to us (although we replied with our own). its actually advantages to the team facing it (you can see the adrenalin in the other team). most people in the world have never faced it and thats a very high percentage! so is that *calling the kettle black* i know the other teams feel honour when they face it. except for the likes of phil kearns. if it happens to you one day. you'll actually appreciate it:-)

[MrVanhoden]

@briquetaverne Ur just straight dumb, wtf a commanche war scream?The ancestors of u americans arent the indian folks ur ancestors are european pilgrims that eradicated the indians.

[reverendkaye]

I LOVE the Haka - best part of the game!!!! It's entertainment and goodness knows the Maoris went through enough in history -this is their time! Wonderful. Blimey Limeyj

[olivertwist69]

"It's tradition", not yours ... stolen just like the land ... 

[Pottan23]

@olivertwist69 white guilt, white guilt everywhere.

[ethengar11]

@Pottan23 no white guilt in australia

[maoribattalion]

@ethengar11 I think it's buried in Australia, like a tumour.

[jamal22066]

In American sports the Haka would be an unsportsmanlike penalty.

[michikodesu]

An opinion from an American who loves rugby!!: A challenge is a challenge. If you're ever challenged; what do you do? Walk away? No! You stand and face up to it! I think that's what should be done. I love the AB haka; but it would be cool if the other team did their own thing as well. To have that much tension and adrenaline on the field would make a hellava match!! If anything, I think that's being more respectful to the haka than just standing there.

[Snookbone]

Not being funny or anything, do they do the haka in other sports? I can't imagine NZ football (soccer) doing a haka. Just wondering.

[ThaOneChrisJONES]

@Snookbone I've seen them do it in Football ( American Football ) and Hockey ( on the ice ), so I think they do it in just about any sport.

[20327070]

@ian12walsh well i guess its just a challenge

[fjbutch]

love to have seen a challenge between rival tribes hundreds of years ago....must have been fierce.....

[Jasonfenian]

@fjbutch check out the haka nz maori rugby league vs the australian aboriginals on utube

[fjbutch]

@Jasonfenian Yeah,... checked it out..pretty cool vid,,feel a bit homesick now...cheers mate..

[bongzm1]

very intersting. i've always wanted to know alot about the haka. this is very useful information. see you next year for the world cup in the homeland of the Maoris.

[anphash]

Tradition is fine but ye shouldn't be so fucking precious about it! If any team reacts to it supporters react NZ fans complain!

[Cenosillicaphobia]

@anphash i agree there are complaints when teams do react.. but personally (despite being english born) i am a huge All Blacks fan, i love the extra tension thats created when there is some sort of challenge, be it standing there and staring them down or whatever. but complaints definitely shouldn't be made, its all part of the game and its build up! and just gets the adrenaline running even more!!

[bobatdevineuniverse]

@Ch0d3n1 - quite possibly bru. A bunch of big boys looking really pissed off, with you in their sights, yup, probably :-)

[bobatdevineuniverse]

@MrWiko7 - respect has got nothing to do with it you nob! I think it's cool when the Maori team does the Haka but when you have a bunch of white boys doing it it is funny shit! It really is all about the show when the AB's do the Haka. The crowd gets into it & so do the commentators, all show mate!

[Ch0d3n1]

teams facing the haka can do what ever they want...i mean after all they are being threatened with a hummiliating death...lol

[lyallbaybum69]

I would just like to know what the 'ban the Haka brigade' would be saying if,England won against the AB's on a regular basis....Would there be such an outcry?

Losers always need to find pitiful excuses for not coming up to scratch.

Bring-on 2011 to separate the boys from the men.Not willing to stick my neck on the line and tempt fate ,but the trophy is staying in the Southern Hemisphere!

[DBlaze187]

He is pretty much spot on, but there is alot more to it than what he has described, a very important point he briefly mentioned was the haka used to 'envoke' or ask help and support from your ancestors in the upcoming battle as well as to lay down the challenge and to fire you up

As for teams facing the haka, they can do whatever the hell they want, as he said, they can step forward and challenge, its not disrespectfull at all, in fact it shows respect for them and yourself!

[MultiRaiha]

hey maoris @Morallnvasion is a racist prick towards indigenous peoples flag him down

[krakenchile74]

very good ...

[bobatdevineuniverse]

Het , guess what? It's the 21st century...... tossers!

[MrWiko7]

@bobatdevineuniverse wtf, get some respect you ignorant twat, respect their traditions.., pathetic

[Ch0d3n1]

@MrWiko7 did you not listen to the super ozz...lol

[iCantSpeaki]

@MrWiko7 Lol you can tell he is ignorant, just look at his name

[Ch0d3n1]

@bobatdevineuniverse doesn't matter bro you would probably drop your nuts if you had to face it...lol

[LunchtimeLoonies]

This is a superb explanation of the haka. I personally love it. It's my favourite spectacle in rugby. From England.

[Thunda1986]

swearing at them is disrespectful thats why mason got knocked out that one time

[wolf78000]

the best challenge was the French team : Face to face, inches away from the all blacks! Awsome! :D

[ihinarap]

@wolf78000 haha yeah and they beat us too

[152906]

i personally think the Haka is hideous, especially the white New Zealanders doing it, Oh come on please!! On that note great to see Maoris getting on the team even if they have been raided from them the other neighbouring island, very greedy indeed, Scottish Prodestants and Presbyrterians have alot to answer for(this one I am jesting about).

Just some thoughts, no neeed for anyone to get upset. Something to think about maybe. Slan libh

[TheMorsey007]

@152906 I love how racist you are, dickhead, maybe a bit bitter that your team has never bearen the All Blacks and have suffered a recent 28-68 ass whooping.

[079Spartan]

@152906 Are you out of your f*ing mind?! What the hell are you even talking about? Prodestants? Raided from the other neighbouring island? I can't even work out what you're on about. Condescending limp-dick.

[FlashmanJW]

The haka is intimidating. If someone did the haka before a match against me, I would be intimidated like hell.

[NBdweller]

Fuck tradition. Just play rugby, NZ. Won any World Cups with your Haka lately?

[james3765733]

@NBdweller Been ranked no.1 in the world latley

[james3765733]

@NBdweller Has you county been number 1 in the world lately. NOPE!

[Yom1848]

2:04 - okay, that wouldnt be to scary... otherwise it is.

[ellz3000]

Louierich you are a god.

I'd just moony them to be honest then go play a good sport like football.

[louierich99]

Much respect to the All Blacks. I would probably challenge the Haka by jerking my imaginary shlong and skeeting all over them lol...

[BeneGesserit747]

it's an impressive tradition and incredible to watch. of course, i'd be scared shitless if i were on the receiving end :D

[lonesn1per]

i perfer watching the haka or the aborignal warcry.... all respect which wales has none...

[kerwin230]

i would just do warm ups, if the other team wants to dance thats fine it on their own time

[liamthedream]

I am a Dubliner and I respect the Welsh. In Fact I much prefer listening to "Land of our Fathers" than watching the Haka.

[tane1515]

go listen to land of our fathers then

[liamthedream]

@tane1515 I said that I prefer "Land of our Fathers" I did'nt say that I did'nt like the Haka.. I am exposed more to Wales and the Welsh.

oew

[brendameistar]

i sacked dublin in medieval total war II

[liamthedream]

Thank you. I remember way back when I was a wee lad in Dublin, I saw the All Blacks. Now I understand. It's important to keep the tradition alive. My Nurse is from the North Island so I'll mention to her that I heard from NZ to-day.

[davidwatson]

Sorry, I don't agree with your comment at all. Wales has the right to rebuff all that psychological domination any way they can. I think they did well.

[davideking26]

non cio capito un cazzo!

[Zetex88]

.....xD

[FamousFoNothinX]

I want to be in the All Blacks :) haha

[shinnie04]

"If you didn't accept that challenge it didn't matter because they will still come and probably just kill you anyway"

HAHAHAHAH!!! Thats just plain awesome xD

[mike19831115]

@shinnie04 lol...

[westplex2]

@shinnie04 I KNOW lmfao maoris go hard

[strongy1979]

i dont think he knows it sound like he was making it up lol

[DRSTRANGELOVE105]

He played for the All Blacks so I guess he's got more of an idea than you mate!!! Salute the Haka one of sports great spectacles, from England!!

[strongy1979]

that wasnt my point dickhead i was talking in reference to his presenting skills douche

[DRSTRANGELOVE105]

Apologies but what a rude person you are! I guess you must take out your frustration somewhere as your probably to gutless to insult somebody to their face!!!

[plucktop]

Cuz you are an idiot who dont know what a haka means, just like he said it's a tradition as a Maori to challenge your opponent with this war dance. It's even great if the opponent accept the challenge by standing up to it and even moving foward in front of the Maori. He even talked about the offering before the haka so please, just shut the fuck up if you don't know what you are talking about.

[trinitee79]

english hard for you.

lol

[SuperWogz22]

i rekon hes just nervous n fuking up wat hes saying

[XboxJT1]

He sounds Australian

[Upinsmokemate]

Thats not an australian accent

[BELEIVEIT1]

the Haka isn't just a challenge, it can also be like honoring an acheivement, or other such things, but the All Blacks, the way they use it is very impactful as well

[bluejoey2135]

i agree

[yumyum078]

not being funny but if they are allowed to issue "a challenge" why shudnt the otha team challenge them back. They clearly get psyched up performing the haka so why shudnt other teams be allowed to stand up to it? I thought wales were well within their rights to stand up and be counted!

[ryanthelion69]

They were right, every NZer loved Wales' response.

And teams can do whatever they wish. I WANT every team to respond, it's great! Watch from 2:10

[sasquach64]

I tottaly agree, wales were fucking good! really ended out as a mean game!

[bigbustyboop]

each to their own

[noblekat]

@yumyum078 I think that if they want to show that they accept the challenge, than they should move forward (like what he says during the interview). If the Welsh want to sing a song as their 'acceptance' of the challenge, or to retaliate, than why don't they do that after the Haka has been finished...it's like talking over someone who is already talking.

[mickser101]

He said 25 points allblacks would win by 1 off well done oz

[kububeach]

All the fu

[maoribattalion]

Pretty simple stuff, the majority understand a reply is sorely needed.

The AB's and Kiwis understand and enjoy it, god knows what Nonu's on about.

Most whingers are about the haka not about the response.

[georgewtwat]

they should stop doing it away from home - the aussie spoof of the kiwi "where the bloody hell are ya" is funny. "Were doing the haka - every couple of minutes....." So true.......

[pwrigz]

Does anyone care what Nonu has to say anyway?

Good clip, good clear details. Strong on tradition and teams can deal with it any way the want.

[OhThatIsSoRandom]

Exactly!

[Stapler78]

Maybe they should bring some women for the traditional maori wife-beating too.

[nemersiz]

LOL

[rjmn1]

maybe they shouldve brought out the pommy wives they wouldve put up more of a fight than those sheilas you call a rugby team!!!!lol

[5platt]

Moan moan MOAN! This is getting so fucking boring and it is making the All Blacks look like a whining bunch of fucking women. It really is. If you throw down a war challenge in someone elses country, don't get pissed off if there is a response. Wales have come out of this head and shoulders above the whingers and the AB's need to get their heads out of their arses.

[OhThatIsSoRandom]

What Glen Osborne said in the video is correct, and Wales responded to the challenge accordingly.

But what I don't get is why are so many people still hung up over what Ma'a Nonu said a weekend ago..lol! I had no idea Nonu's words were held in high esteem, and that was his own individual opinion. My advice would be to take it with a grain of salt, also I think the media is blowing it way out of proportion and its worked because it's riled quite a few feathers.

[rugga]

Your onto it.

[ryanthelion69]

Did you even watch the video? How do you churn out a comment like that after it was just explained in the video?

[Springbokke15]

lol!

Moaning about Moaning = typical English whinger.

[5platt]

ha ha. you fucking muppet. Of course you south africans are the most contented happy laid back people on the planet aren't you.

[Springbokke15]

Glen who is Maori & a Former All Black basically confirms in this vid, that there was nothing wrong with the Welsh response & yet you still complained.

Zinzan Brooke & Richie McCaw have also said there is no issue with the Welsh Haka response. Out of the 22 AB's only Nonu was quoted for not agreeing with the response, so stop acting as if the whole team said it.

And yes I am a happy person, it must be frustrating to lose.... a lot. Im unfamiliar with that feeling but I assume that it would suck.

[rjmn1]

nah i dont suppose u bokke and us allblack supporters would know what its like to lose very much ....but atleast the bokkes know how to win a world cup...unlike my beloved ab`s...oh well lol

[scoobasteve147]

what the hell is Nonu crying about?? if u put foward a challange (war dance) expect a responce! Deal with it!

[sianwestcott]

Anyone know where i can see Nonu whingign? i aint seen it yet!