Most troubling is the lack of a coherent, science-based plan for Canada. There are no caps on industrial emissions, - Canadian emissions will continue to rise.
Over the past year emissions have increased in every sector. 276% increase from mining emissions since 1990. This dramatic increase is non other than the explosion of tar sands development. The Environment Canada Inventory Report states,
Stephen Harper wins Fossil of the Year Award in Durban – 5th Colossal Fossil in a row Durban, South Africa, December 9, 2011 – UN climate change conferences. Canadians in Durban, South Africa to accept the award, Canada's actions have become so egregious that they have been left behind, on the sidelines of global climate progress.
e•gre•gious 1. extraordinary in some BAD WAY; glaring; flagrant: an egregious mistake; an egregious liar.
“When it comes to the tar sands, Enbridge is Canada’s pusher, pumping dirty oil through unreliable pipelines which are bound to spill,” said Taylor Flook, an organizer with Environmental Justice Toronto. “Averaging at 61 leaks per year for the past 10 years, Enbridge is celebrating over 600 leaks and breaks—and its investors need to know that. Enbridge pipelines are too risky.”
Over the four years Paul Martin, finance minister then Prime Minister, and the two years prior to Harper enacting his corporate tax cuts, revenue from corporate income nearly doubled from $22.2b (2002-03) to $40.6b (2007-08). Tax revenue from corporate income as a share of total tax revenues peaked at 20.0%. Since rates were CUT from 22.12% to 18% among OTHER measures, revenues plummeted by $10 billion, to $29.5b in 2008-09 and $30.4b in 2009-10
@tomuchbabble Firing a large part of Gov. environmental agency. Any one that disagrees with him, while handing out jobs and Goverment positions to friends.Threatening environmental groups. Cutting tax to wealthy corporations He promised he wouldn’t do.
• Stephen Harper down the same path as the USA. Spending unprecedented amounts of money...$25,000,000,000 for ships $4,000,000,000 on prisons that the TEXAS governor told him was a major mistake. (see video) $65,000,000 a jet x 65 jets but price keeps rising. Jets the military didn’t want, hiding multiple bills in 1bill and gave the opposition only 2 days to read it. Allowing drugs to be sold without testing. Removing pollution controls, companies to monitor them selves.
An interesting discussion, it's certainly of concern to me where our country is heading, though at the moment nothing of serious economic concern has arisen.
Do to Canada’s lack of production jobs we decided to produce conservatives; they were sold to world leaders as court jesters. Unfortunately all were returned. We now sell them as savants with a pay up front no return policy. In this way noing that they will undermine other governments with their complete lack of usefulness and drag them down to Harpers level at which time Stephen Harper Can proclaim his Napolian syndrom dictatorship works.
Unless his religious bond with Israel, US kills us.
I voted for the Conservatives, and while I don't agree with Harper on everything he does and has done, he is clearly better than the alternatives for now
@LeGioNoFZioN In the past 35 years, the Conservatives have had the worst track record for balancing the budget, and continued subsidies to the oil industry, the unwarranted purchase of F35 jets, lowering already low corporate taxes, and running a deficit budget before the recession hit are just a few reasons that prove why Harper and the Conservatives are clearly the worst alternative.
@KevinADCarter that is a gross oversimplification, all political parties make positive and negative moves while in power. Also the modern conservative party should not be confused with the progressive conservative party that held power prior to Chretien. I didn't come on here to argue why the conservatives are great because some of your criticisms I agree with wholeheartedly ... but if the alt. is Dion or Ignatieff or even Layton before he passed, I doubt any would have done better
@LeGioNoFZioN Did you read the electoral fiscal policies of all five parties? Ignoring statistics, the Conservative's policy was to increase the deficit that they created with no specifics on how they plan to pay it down.
The Liberals left the Conservatives with a balanced budget which at the very least gives them greater budgetary credibility, but of all the parties, only the Green Party proposed a balanced budget and provided the specifics of how they would achieve it.
@KevinADCarter I'm, again, not suggesting the conservatives are perfect or have all the right answers, I'm merely asserting a commonly held belief that they are doing well as can be expected given the world financial crisis. The green party has less credibility than the NDP when it comes to governance, if they can run a province and do well, I'm sure their federal cousins will get an increase in voter support. Reality is that businesses are not doing great, uncertainty abounds ...
@LeGioNoFZioN "Less credibility than the NDP"? The NDP have the best track record for balanced budgets and surplus budgets of any other party in the past 35 years. Though I don't agree with many of their policies this time around, their electoral platform had each policy costed line by line next to how it would be paid for. The Green Party are certainly more credible than the Conservatives who ran a deficit budget and ran up our debt long before the global recession started.
@KevinADCarter we clearly occupy different positions on the electoral spectrum. The federal NDP has never been close to winning an election so clearly they have a credibility issue otherwise a majority of Canadians would not vote for other parties. Provincailly the most successful NDP are out west where the NDP is to the right of the lieberal party.
@LeGioNoFZioN If you discount any party that has not already been elected and you believe all the incumbent parties are identical, why bother voting?
I choose to vote for the party with the best fiscal policies and who's social views most closely match my own views: Anything else wouldn't make sense.
@KevinADCarter different people vote for different reasons at different times. The NDP was robbed during the last election because the liberals did their typical scare tactic that any vote not for the liberals is a vote for the conservatives ..your sense of reason and logic is not necessarily shared by most others. In the last election I voted for the Libertarian party even though the freedom party had some decent ideas as well. And like battered spouses the Ontario people voted McGuinty again
@LeGioNoFZioN If I'd known we'd have this long of a conversation I'd have invited you to talk over dinner. Alas, I must go to bed. ...perhaps we'll chat again another time.
@KevinADCarter I share some of your frustration despite our difference and I do agree that voting for your interests and with parties that share your views most closely makes perfect sense. that is why I wouldn't give Hudak's PC's a chance when my area had a reasonably strong Libertarian candidate. But people vote for what they think will help their job, the company or department they work for, they vote for fear of who gets elected, they vote to show what they care about ...
@KevinADCarter ...and even if our government makes good decisions its hard to predict how those will be affected by Europe and America's growing financial instability. They could make all the right moves, and that may still be insufficient to fight the dowturn coming. Personally I would prefer to see Harper grow a spine, and stop running things like the heir to Paul Martin, but in the real world that will not happen. In this country the people like their leaders to proceed from the middle.
@LeGioNoFZioN The Bloc had the next best fiscal policy, but unless you live in Quebec they are a non-issue as they have no candidates outside of the province.
@KevinADCarter the federal conservatives and liberals are so damn close, I don't think anyone can provide evidence of either doing anything major (policy wise) that either party wouldn't do the same way in the same situation ... like it or not, Harper is the devil we know, and the mistakes he has made pale in comparison with other world leaders ...Berlusconi, Brown, Cameron, Obama, Ghadafi, Assad, Gonsalves, Chavez .. the list goes on.
@LeGioNoFZioN The difference between Conservative and Liberal policy is actually extremely evident, and you need look no further than each parties published electoral policies for proof of this. No other party entered the election promising to increase the deficit, dismantle social programs, and pander to corporations the way the Conservatives did, nor would any other party so arrogantly ignore the will Canadians.
The Conservatives are uniquely unqualified to run the country.
@KevinADCarter rhetoric and action are two different things. If the last 30-40 years teaches us anything it is that to be elected one echoes the thoughts of the disenfranchised of either end fo the political spectrum, and when elected rule from the centre. Harper's rhetoric pre Alliance and PC unification was decidely hard right, in line with the Fraser Ins. and in line with non urban Canucks of individualist leanings. his leadership since the two parties merged has been the most hollow echo
@KevinADCarter ... of those earlier positions. Politics is a game of compromise and deceit .... it changes all who play it because power is the currency and we all know what power does to human beings. You may feel the conservatives are unqualified, but apparently not enough of our fellow Canadians agreed with you. If an election were held tomorrow they would still get my vote and a donation of a few hundred dollars. Now if conservatives or libertarians had an alternative .....
@LeGioNoFZioN Considering that 60.4% of voters did not choose the Conservatives, clearly the majority agreed with me that they were not the best choice. I cannot imagine why you would choose to vote for the Conservatives again knowing the damage they have done, are doing, and plan to continue to do to our economy and our Country.
@KevinADCarter my father immigrated from the west indies in the early 70's. He quickly became disenfranchised with the liberal party and certain lies and half truths at the time, and he became a lifelong conservative voter ever since. Conservative MP's helped my dad bring our family up from the Caribbean, not MP's from other parties. Conservative policies have helped our family over the years. your opinion of the "damage" they do is not shared by common sense folks.
@LeGioNoFZioN Given their lack of popularity, I'm quite certain the "common sense folks" are on my side with regard to the Conservatives. Whereas you will apparently vote Conservative regardless of what they do or what your other options may be, I will always vote for the party with the best policies.
Regardless, it's unfortunate that an immigrant supports the Conservatives given their staunch anti-immigrant policies. The lack of respect they show immigrants borders on racism.
@KevinADCarter I'm not saying all common sense folk vote the way we as a family tend, but rather thast common sense folks vote the way they think benefits them the most. I do vote for the best policies that affect me most directly. the TFSA should have been started 30 years ago, that influenced my choice. So did tax breaks that benefitted the company I work for. I'm not a shallow thinker. It wasn't the conservatives but Mulrooney's PC's in the 80's that saw ...
@KevinADCarter ..the agreement to mitigate acid rain, and the largest openings of the "gates" to immigrants ... and was roundly criticized by the left and centre despite doing exactly what they wanted. Harper has not made it any harder to immigrate than the Liberals already did under Chretien .. trust me we have gone through the process with enough cousins and uncles and aunts to know ...Conservatives as a ruling party are no more anti-immigrant than the liberals and that is a fact not opinon
Five years ago Ecuador raised oil royalties to 87%, started enforcing their 24% corporate tax rate, raised the minimum wage, and increased health care spending by 120%. Result: Economic prosperity.
There is no justification for austerity measures in a resource-rich country like Canada while corporations are allowed to reap record profits from what rightfully belong to all of us. Let's follow Ecuador's model. Also, lets build our own refineries and keep the profits from Canadian oil in Canada.
@darshan1848 It was from a recent interview on the Real News Network. The video is labelled "Ecuador Creating Alternative to Neo-Liberal Model" uploaded to their YouTube channel around 1am EST on February 2nd.
Little growth since 2008 and growth is not assured in the future. Why? Simple. This is the end game of Monopoly. The bankers and the richest people on the planet have ALL the money and that's why there's no growth. No one has any money to buy anything which hurts demand and profits. And the corporate response is to put more people out of work. The state response is tax cuts for the corporations and cut spending for social programs. Tickle down DOES NOT WORK!!!
@pfreddyp Actually, Canada has done quite well under Harper. The trickle down wont work as long as there are possible workers in China, but, tax cuts atleast stop the firing of workers.
@eminem4436 Actually, that's a fiction created by the various Ailes conservative think tanks and repeated so often that many fail to question it.
Taxes are calculated from profits, i.e. after deducting expenses like wages, and have minimal influence on job creation versus basic demand. That being said, statistical analysis shows that jurisdictions with lower taxes are more likely to have greater job losses, presumably due to the hostile business climate cultivated in these areas.
@KevinADCarter Please show me a statistic. If you choose to tax the oil companies in Canada that are all working together, they will all raise their prices because there is no competition and people will always pay. This is going on in Ontario currently.
@eminem4436 The article was written last April when the Federal parties were releasing their fiscal policies. I'm sure you could find it with a Google search; in the meantime, it's easy enough to expose the flaw in low tax = job creation via basic economic theory:
Lower taxes means higher retained earnings, but profits aren't reinvested to increase operating expenses (wages) unless there is an increase in demand to justify increasing production which lowering taxes doesn't do.
@eminem4436 Collusion among the the oil companies is an urban myth. The price of oil in Canada is determined by WTI oil futures which is set by global market forces. Gasoline goes up simultaneously at every gas station because the price of gas is keyed to the price of oil.
Where we're being screwed in Ontario is car insurance which is literally twice the national average. As a regulated industry they should be required to keep their costs in line with the rest of the country.
@KevinADCarter It is true that the price of oil is set by the WTI, BUT, taxes will raise the price higher. The price of oil in Ontario is higher than the price in Quebec.
@eminem4436 Are you sure about that? I'm looking at the IFA International Fuel Tax Rate Chart for 2011 and the Ontario rate is 14.3¢-14.7¢/L whereas the Quebec rate is 17.2¢-18.2¢. Similarly, according to the Canadian Gasoline Tax Chart, the taxes at the pump are ~8% greater in Quebec (~9% in Montreal) than in Ontario and the difference in price from city to city is the regional distribution rate which should be the same for cities the same distance from a distribution hub.
@KevinADCarter well if your sources are correct I guess im mistaken. Id love to continue this disscussion away from the comments section. PM me if interested.
@eminem4436 Certainly. 485 characters (what an odd number to chose) necessitates a lot of editing. Later though -- I've been up for two days and I've got to go bed.
Canada's Rising GHG Emissions and No Plan
Most troubling is the lack of a coherent, science-based plan for Canada. There are no caps on industrial emissions, - Canadian emissions will continue to rise.
Over the past year emissions have increased in every sector. 276% increase from mining emissions since 1990. This dramatic increase is non other than the explosion of tar sands development. The Environment Canada Inventory Report states,
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
Stephen Harper wins Fossil of the Year Award in Durban – 5th Colossal Fossil in a row Durban, South Africa, December 9, 2011 – UN climate change conferences. Canadians in Durban, South Africa to accept the award, Canada's actions have become so egregious that they have been left behind, on the sidelines of global climate progress.
e•gre•gious 1. extraordinary in some BAD WAY; glaring; flagrant: an egregious mistake; an egregious liar.
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
“When it comes to the tar sands, Enbridge is Canada’s pusher, pumping dirty oil through unreliable pipelines which are bound to spill,” said Taylor Flook, an organizer with Environmental Justice Toronto. “Averaging at 61 leaks per year for the past 10 years, Enbridge is celebrating over 600 leaks and breaks—and its investors need to know that. Enbridge pipelines are too risky.”
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
Harper tax cuts to wealthy
Over the four years Paul Martin, finance minister then Prime Minister, and the two years prior to Harper enacting his corporate tax cuts, revenue from corporate income nearly doubled from $22.2b (2002-03) to $40.6b (2007-08). Tax revenue from corporate income as a share of total tax revenues peaked at 20.0%. Since rates were CUT from 22.12% to 18% among OTHER measures, revenues plummeted by $10 billion, to $29.5b in 2008-09 and $30.4b in 2009-10
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
@tomuchbabble Firing a large part of Gov. environmental agency. Any one that disagrees with him, while handing out jobs and Goverment positions to friends.Threatening environmental groups. Cutting tax to wealthy corporations He promised he wouldn’t do.
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
• Stephen Harper down the same path as the USA. Spending unprecedented amounts of money...$25,000,000,000 for ships $4,000,000,000 on prisons that the TEXAS governor told him was a major mistake. (see video) $65,000,000 a jet x 65 jets but price keeps rising. Jets the military didn’t want, hiding multiple bills in 1bill and gave the opposition only 2 days to read it. Allowing drugs to be sold without testing. Removing pollution controls, companies to monitor them selves.
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
SEARCH LINES HARPER OUT OF CONTROLL
Canada cuts environment spending | Environment | guardian.co.uk
1. 'Secret' Environment Canada presentation warns of oilsands' impact
2. Environmental groups slam Stephen Harper's platform over climate
3. The Straight Goods: Stephen Harper Assists in Environmental Genocide
4. The Straight Goods: Stephen Harper Attempts to Sell Canada a 5. "Scary time" for Canada | The Vancouver Observer
1. HARPER MAKING THREATS
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
An interesting discussion, it's certainly of concern to me where our country is heading, though at the moment nothing of serious economic concern has arisen.
Deadmansparty2002 3 weeks ago
Do to Canada’s lack of production jobs we decided to produce conservatives; they were sold to world leaders as court jesters. Unfortunately all were returned. We now sell them as savants with a pay up front no return policy. In this way noing that they will undermine other governments with their complete lack of usefulness and drag them down to Harpers level at which time Stephen Harper Can proclaim his Napolian syndrom dictatorship works.
Unless his religious bond with Israel, US kills us.
tomuchbabble 3 weeks ago
I voted for the Conservatives, and while I don't agree with Harper on everything he does and has done, he is clearly better than the alternatives for now
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN In the past 35 years, the Conservatives have had the worst track record for balancing the budget, and continued subsidies to the oil industry, the unwarranted purchase of F35 jets, lowering already low corporate taxes, and running a deficit budget before the recession hit are just a few reasons that prove why Harper and the Conservatives are clearly the worst alternative.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago 2
@KevinADCarter that is a gross oversimplification, all political parties make positive and negative moves while in power. Also the modern conservative party should not be confused with the progressive conservative party that held power prior to Chretien. I didn't come on here to argue why the conservatives are great because some of your criticisms I agree with wholeheartedly ... but if the alt. is Dion or Ignatieff or even Layton before he passed, I doubt any would have done better
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN Did you read the electoral fiscal policies of all five parties? Ignoring statistics, the Conservative's policy was to increase the deficit that they created with no specifics on how they plan to pay it down.
The Liberals left the Conservatives with a balanced budget which at the very least gives them greater budgetary credibility, but of all the parties, only the Green Party proposed a balanced budget and provided the specifics of how they would achieve it.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter I'm, again, not suggesting the conservatives are perfect or have all the right answers, I'm merely asserting a commonly held belief that they are doing well as can be expected given the world financial crisis. The green party has less credibility than the NDP when it comes to governance, if they can run a province and do well, I'm sure their federal cousins will get an increase in voter support. Reality is that businesses are not doing great, uncertainty abounds ...
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN "Less credibility than the NDP"? The NDP have the best track record for balanced budgets and surplus budgets of any other party in the past 35 years. Though I don't agree with many of their policies this time around, their electoral platform had each policy costed line by line next to how it would be paid for. The Green Party are certainly more credible than the Conservatives who ran a deficit budget and ran up our debt long before the global recession started.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter we clearly occupy different positions on the electoral spectrum. The federal NDP has never been close to winning an election so clearly they have a credibility issue otherwise a majority of Canadians would not vote for other parties. Provincailly the most successful NDP are out west where the NDP is to the right of the lieberal party.
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN If you discount any party that has not already been elected and you believe all the incumbent parties are identical, why bother voting?
I choose to vote for the party with the best fiscal policies and who's social views most closely match my own views: Anything else wouldn't make sense.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter different people vote for different reasons at different times. The NDP was robbed during the last election because the liberals did their typical scare tactic that any vote not for the liberals is a vote for the conservatives ..your sense of reason and logic is not necessarily shared by most others. In the last election I voted for the Libertarian party even though the freedom party had some decent ideas as well. And like battered spouses the Ontario people voted McGuinty again
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN If I'd known we'd have this long of a conversation I'd have invited you to talk over dinner. Alas, I must go to bed. ...perhaps we'll chat again another time.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter it has been interesting and engaging, thanks for the discussion, all the best to you and yours
LeGioNoFZioN 4 weeks ago
@KevinADCarter I share some of your frustration despite our difference and I do agree that voting for your interests and with parties that share your views most closely makes perfect sense. that is why I wouldn't give Hudak's PC's a chance when my area had a reasonably strong Libertarian candidate. But people vote for what they think will help their job, the company or department they work for, they vote for fear of who gets elected, they vote to show what they care about ...
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter ...and even if our government makes good decisions its hard to predict how those will be affected by Europe and America's growing financial instability. They could make all the right moves, and that may still be insufficient to fight the dowturn coming. Personally I would prefer to see Harper grow a spine, and stop running things like the heir to Paul Martin, but in the real world that will not happen. In this country the people like their leaders to proceed from the middle.
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN The Bloc had the next best fiscal policy, but unless you live in Quebec they are a non-issue as they have no candidates outside of the province.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter the federal conservatives and liberals are so damn close, I don't think anyone can provide evidence of either doing anything major (policy wise) that either party wouldn't do the same way in the same situation ... like it or not, Harper is the devil we know, and the mistakes he has made pale in comparison with other world leaders ...Berlusconi, Brown, Cameron, Obama, Ghadafi, Assad, Gonsalves, Chavez .. the list goes on.
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN The difference between Conservative and Liberal policy is actually extremely evident, and you need look no further than each parties published electoral policies for proof of this. No other party entered the election promising to increase the deficit, dismantle social programs, and pander to corporations the way the Conservatives did, nor would any other party so arrogantly ignore the will Canadians.
The Conservatives are uniquely unqualified to run the country.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter rhetoric and action are two different things. If the last 30-40 years teaches us anything it is that to be elected one echoes the thoughts of the disenfranchised of either end fo the political spectrum, and when elected rule from the centre. Harper's rhetoric pre Alliance and PC unification was decidely hard right, in line with the Fraser Ins. and in line with non urban Canucks of individualist leanings. his leadership since the two parties merged has been the most hollow echo
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter ... of those earlier positions. Politics is a game of compromise and deceit .... it changes all who play it because power is the currency and we all know what power does to human beings. You may feel the conservatives are unqualified, but apparently not enough of our fellow Canadians agreed with you. If an election were held tomorrow they would still get my vote and a donation of a few hundred dollars. Now if conservatives or libertarians had an alternative .....
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN Considering that 60.4% of voters did not choose the Conservatives, clearly the majority agreed with me that they were not the best choice. I cannot imagine why you would choose to vote for the Conservatives again knowing the damage they have done, are doing, and plan to continue to do to our economy and our Country.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter my father immigrated from the west indies in the early 70's. He quickly became disenfranchised with the liberal party and certain lies and half truths at the time, and he became a lifelong conservative voter ever since. Conservative MP's helped my dad bring our family up from the Caribbean, not MP's from other parties. Conservative policies have helped our family over the years. your opinion of the "damage" they do is not shared by common sense folks.
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@LeGioNoFZioN Given their lack of popularity, I'm quite certain the "common sense folks" are on my side with regard to the Conservatives. Whereas you will apparently vote Conservative regardless of what they do or what your other options may be, I will always vote for the party with the best policies.
Regardless, it's unfortunate that an immigrant supports the Conservatives given their staunch anti-immigrant policies. The lack of respect they show immigrants borders on racism.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter I'm not saying all common sense folk vote the way we as a family tend, but rather thast common sense folks vote the way they think benefits them the most. I do vote for the best policies that affect me most directly. the TFSA should have been started 30 years ago, that influenced my choice. So did tax breaks that benefitted the company I work for. I'm not a shallow thinker. It wasn't the conservatives but Mulrooney's PC's in the 80's that saw ...
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter ..the agreement to mitigate acid rain, and the largest openings of the "gates" to immigrants ... and was roundly criticized by the left and centre despite doing exactly what they wanted. Harper has not made it any harder to immigrate than the Liberals already did under Chretien .. trust me we have gone through the process with enough cousins and uncles and aunts to know ...Conservatives as a ruling party are no more anti-immigrant than the liberals and that is a fact not opinon
LeGioNoFZioN 1 month ago
Five years ago Ecuador raised oil royalties to 87%, started enforcing their 24% corporate tax rate, raised the minimum wage, and increased health care spending by 120%. Result: Economic prosperity.
There is no justification for austerity measures in a resource-rich country like Canada while corporations are allowed to reap record profits from what rightfully belong to all of us. Let's follow Ecuador's model. Also, lets build our own refineries and keep the profits from Canadian oil in Canada.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago 4
@KevinADCarter That's very interesting. Where are getting these Ecuador stats? ty
darshan1848 1 month ago
@darshan1848 It was from a recent interview on the Real News Network. The video is labelled "Ecuador Creating Alternative to Neo-Liberal Model" uploaded to their YouTube channel around 1am EST on February 2nd.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter i watched that ecuador one too, and thought of canada.
apagoogoo 1 month ago
Little growth since 2008 and growth is not assured in the future. Why? Simple. This is the end game of Monopoly. The bankers and the richest people on the planet have ALL the money and that's why there's no growth. No one has any money to buy anything which hurts demand and profits. And the corporate response is to put more people out of work. The state response is tax cuts for the corporations and cut spending for social programs. Tickle down DOES NOT WORK!!!
pfreddyp 1 month ago
@pfreddyp Actually, Canada has done quite well under Harper. The trickle down wont work as long as there are possible workers in China, but, tax cuts atleast stop the firing of workers.
eminem4436 1 month ago
@eminem4436 Actually, that's a fiction created by the various Ailes conservative think tanks and repeated so often that many fail to question it.
Taxes are calculated from profits, i.e. after deducting expenses like wages, and have minimal influence on job creation versus basic demand. That being said, statistical analysis shows that jurisdictions with lower taxes are more likely to have greater job losses, presumably due to the hostile business climate cultivated in these areas.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter Please show me a statistic. If you choose to tax the oil companies in Canada that are all working together, they will all raise their prices because there is no competition and people will always pay. This is going on in Ontario currently.
eminem4436 1 month ago
@eminem4436 The article was written last April when the Federal parties were releasing their fiscal policies. I'm sure you could find it with a Google search; in the meantime, it's easy enough to expose the flaw in low tax = job creation via basic economic theory:
Lower taxes means higher retained earnings, but profits aren't reinvested to increase operating expenses (wages) unless there is an increase in demand to justify increasing production which lowering taxes doesn't do.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@eminem4436 Collusion among the the oil companies is an urban myth. The price of oil in Canada is determined by WTI oil futures which is set by global market forces. Gasoline goes up simultaneously at every gas station because the price of gas is keyed to the price of oil.
Where we're being screwed in Ontario is car insurance which is literally twice the national average. As a regulated industry they should be required to keep their costs in line with the rest of the country.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter It is true that the price of oil is set by the WTI, BUT, taxes will raise the price higher. The price of oil in Ontario is higher than the price in Quebec.
eminem4436 1 month ago
@eminem4436 Are you sure about that? I'm looking at the IFA International Fuel Tax Rate Chart for 2011 and the Ontario rate is 14.3¢-14.7¢/L whereas the Quebec rate is 17.2¢-18.2¢. Similarly, according to the Canadian Gasoline Tax Chart, the taxes at the pump are ~8% greater in Quebec (~9% in Montreal) than in Ontario and the difference in price from city to city is the regional distribution rate which should be the same for cities the same distance from a distribution hub.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago
@KevinADCarter well if your sources are correct I guess im mistaken. Id love to continue this disscussion away from the comments section. PM me if interested.
eminem4436 1 month ago
@eminem4436 Certainly. 485 characters (what an odd number to chose) necessitates a lot of editing. Later though -- I've been up for two days and I've got to go bed.
KevinADCarter 1 month ago