Ok now, why would the government lie to its dear a loving public? They love us as caring parents! They work day and night so we can have a better future, even if it means invading a foreign country so fuel can be cheaper and our grand-kids have the chance to fight in a war in the future.
No, thats not it. They lie because they know that we are not going to do a thing about it - partially because we are stupid, and generally because people do believe they are there for us.
How could a Boeing 757 Jetliner crashing into one of the most heavily fortified military installation's in the world not have been captured on CCTV?
It defies plausibility; haven said that why has NATIONAL SECURITY confiscated and sequestered the Virginia Transportation Authorities video footage? The Citgo gas stations footage? The Sheraton hotel's video footage? Why hasn't any, save 3 minutes of useless video, footage from the Pentagons 84 CCTV cameras been made public?
@wisdomtrek I understand your skepticism of 9/11 because of all the hype out there. But, think about your statement for a minute. Military bases and some government installations, such as the Pentagon, do not want videos of the complex to be made public. It's a security thing. Would it be wise for a top secret building to release their own and other's CCTV footage to the world? Yes, this makes many conspiracy theorist uneasy, but it has to be done.
@MrBlemph Think about your statement for a second... what's so insecure about proving that a plane hit the Pentagon? Or, what if a missile did hit it and all those cameras clearly show that? Well, that doesn't go with the story of a plane hitting... better confiscate them.
@MrBlemph cctv not being released, for our own safety?? really? nope, no plane hit the pentagon, if ppl saw what really happened they would take down the murderous US govt instantly!!
@wisdomtrek WHY hasn't any video of the Pentagon attack been shown, it's because it would show a MISSILE and not an aeroplane hitting the building. So how would the government explain that, they couldn't so they stick with their LYING story and expect everyone to believe it. The whole thing is a SHAM.
@rejco100 you would run out too if you were there. I mean come on two planes just crashed into the twin towers of the world trade center they had no clue what was coming for them!! Don't be a jerk!!!!
@4246theone it was a helicopter military or civilian it wasn't clear enough to tell.. but it didn't sound like a military copter and it didn't look to be painter military colors not even coast guard
@4246theone yeah it was just a bird.. the restricted field of vision made it look like it was going fast but it was just going a normal speed for a bird
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The British Forces in Afghanistan are part of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), a NATO-led security and development mission in Afghanistan established by the United Nations Security Council on the 20th December 2001, as envisaged by the Bonn Agreement.
The UN, famously, wrote the Bonn Agreenent within a
I have many questions but one thing i do know without a doubt the blue dot you see in this pic it not any kind of aircraft.I will not get into any discussions but for sure this is not a plane of any kind.If anyone wants to know what really happened in the smoke is the answers.Colors etc.I will not answer any comments.Thanks.
10,560= 2 miles tower height? 13,500 fell down in 15 seconds 9depending on which source you consider reliable. lets say they fell in 25 seconds much longer than anyone suggests
@Merlin5x5 ROFL Verinage someone you debunkers hold dear. Fucking hilarious. Explain to me how that explains for half the the building was turned to dust, and the over 1000 degree basement that lasted for over 6 months. If you where a true scientist, you would ask those questions. Not bring up bullshit verinage, that if anything proves your ignorance even more. And if you atcutally look at a veriange demo, it doesnt have the same charateristics of the wtc.
Why are they removing forensic evidence from a crime scene? Granted the "C" looks like my company's logo. Plenty of fuselages and retired airplanes out in the desert, therefor not conclusive. Could be planted evidence. SOP is for the National Transportation Safety Board to rent some hangar close by and reconstruct the remains of the airplane. Not done! Why?
99% of every part on a commercial airliner has a clearly marked part number. Show us the parts!
Bg1379, if there is NOTHING to hide and the OFFICIAL story is true, then the government should show us the MULTIPLE videos from the multitude of cameras, Pentagon, hotels, gas stations, surveillance, etc that captured the event on 9/11. NO, instead they only allow us to see a gate surveillance camera video that is not true video but a frame a second cheapie footage. WHY? Why cant' they show us a video with the full footage of a PLANE hitting the Pentagon? Because it's NOT a plane!!!
And I get my info from a wide variety of sources, never just from one place. And the news is nothing but controlled propaganda. You would be foolish to believe everything that comes on the news.
Hmmmm. . . look up "conspiracy theorist," first of all. Second, people believed the Earth was flat up until they explored it, which is when everyone realized that it was round, the idea came to relatively quickly. This topic of what planes flew into the towers is completely closed to discussion for anyone of rational reasoning.. videos have been produced, and witnesses have reached a consensus. Case closed. And, for the record, some still believe the Earth is flat and the Holocaust is a myth.
I don't need to look up conspiracy theorist, & I am aware some people still believe the Earth is flat, & some think the holocaust is a myth etc, the list goes on. Who cares? And exactly, the ppl changed their long held beliefs about the Earth once new information had emerged. Everything was no longer as it appeared to be. Some pieces of the puzzle are still missing in this whole 9/11 thing. No one knows exact 100% truth, they can believe that all they want though, idc.
There are far too many questions still properly unanswered about 9/11. Like the collapse of building 7, the news report that said building 7 had collapsed when it was right there on screen & then they mysteriously got cut off, the one & only camera view of the pentagon being hit, why didn't they release more vidz if there is nothing to hide, the sudden pancake collapse of the towers is bs, bush lying about when he saw the towers hit on tv etc, the list goes on...
#1. 110 story buildings falling down in slightly above or below(depending on which source you quote) ten seconds. you do realize that even IF they took a full minute to fall that in itself would have been grounds to suspect controlled demolition.
#2 molten steel that burned until dec. (jet fuel?)
NIST and the 9/11 Commission BOTH take the WTC fall time from fireman radio recordings, and the NYU LAMONT Doherty Seismic center. They are BOTH at 15/16 seconds.
SO, nice BIG FAIL there, sonny boy.
The point of Verinage is NONE of the symptoms of EXPLOSIVES use was present. They gravity collapsed because 200 Ton Jets hit them, at 500+ mph, and then they burned catastrophically.
SO that's another BIG FAIL, a double FAIL, congratulations.
@Merlin5x5 ... Merlin, you are a fucking idiot in the highest regard. 9/11 was NOT planned or committed by Bin Laden and 19 Saudi hijackers.
It was planned by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle and the rest of the P.N.A.C. neocon gang and it was carried out by Mossad and CIA agents. Period.
Well, LOL, I think little idiot twoofers like yourself beating off to a giant conspiracy are kind of a bad comment on population genetics, myself. You have to wonder what kind of Hillbilly Retard family would whelp an idiot who would believe that.
LOL
I mean, no matter how you can detect Mossad and CIA from your Mom's basement in Bumfuck, Egypt, you would have to concede they were "Secret Agency plots", that were "found out" by idiots like you.
Look Merlin, the US and Israel want more of the east under their wing. The US fears that Russia and formost China will grow to powerfull if they control the eurasia region. The US has to be there, it is just like playing risk. In history it is more normal than strange that a country fakes an attack of the enemy to get into a fight at the time and place of their choosing. Maybe it is far to much for you to believe, but it is common sense when dealing with survival of societies.
1. I know. It is a right wing part of the militairy industrial establishment, the Bush family is and old family in those circles, but Bush is not especialy important. Grandfather Prescot Bush has helped finance the Nationalist Socialist Party in Germany. These people write plans about what the US should do to counter China and occupying the middle east is what they think is the best.
In every way they play Risk, but they use real people like you by deceit of propaganda.
2. The people who are behind the faked attack have probably done outstanding bussiness since then. The Arab Jihadists are not attack the US, the US is attacking them and they speak jihads mostly to get the US out of their country. The US has killed so much people now, it is ridiculous. And it is the only country who ever nuked another, twice. And somehow, they got away with it, that is democratic kapitalistic propaganda machine for you.
And ofcourse I know about our gene pool. It as a sad fact that after millions of years people are still easily impressed by power and glitters. The most horrible human suffering on mass scale can be ignored when power tells you or glitters distract you. I would advise you to stop advocating the official story for a while and think things over.
Hitlers Germany also promised a wealthy live for their civilians. A car and televison for everbody. Very proud patriots. A murderous regime that was not believed to be true by themselfs. A fake attack to help rise to power by martial law. Always good weather politics an television. Enormous enrichment by a part of the political and financial class. It all sounds a lot like your country...
Our political systems function to manage our countries internal affairs. But there is still a lot of power at groups who own/invested in our main industries. If you would go up the ladder you will find only some hundred people owning all major production, financial and militairy industries. We can call them aristocrats or oligarchs. No countries political system functions seperate of them. Hitler wanted to nationalise these interest and kick foreign, mainly jewish, domination out.
So your trilateral commission is not a private company who has more influence on foreign strategic decisions than your senators? Money, the life blood of every decision is not in control by a private entity? The UN was not paid for by the Rockefellers. People with more power than a small country just sit on their ass and let politics ruin their vision of the future?
I think your politics are naïve. It is law of the jungle out there, not democracy.
Ok merlin. You are right. You people are really under attack by Jihadist in far away countries who live in caves and don't like your freedom. Your government is very trustworthy and waging war is always the best solution to any problem. The 911 attack was out of the blue, thats why your president wat caught reading childrens books to children. Torture hardly happens in Americans name. Most Americans shit icecream and your industries always help out making the planet better.
Some of the so called hijackers were not even on the plane. There passports/indentity were just stolen and used. The hijackers you are talking about are comming out of a comic book written by the cia.
Were did the money come from for Germany to build their super army? Who borrowed to the NAZI's? America was always pro NAZI and anti jewish, only after a lot of shit like the camps we could change the minds of you fucks. There is the blow back again. You give arms and money to groups to aggresivly make them do what you want, and then unintended consecuences happen, like the extermination of millions of jews. Your country overall is like a 9 year old. Greedy, not so smart, self loving
You are a proud Nationalist/Patriot. I must conclude that you are incapable of processing information that makes your country look bad. Your country will continue to fight and kill poor people and corrupt the rich, while presenting it beautifully on your television sets. Keep dreaming your American dream. The unelected powers will continue anyways. So it really doesn't matter you like sweet lies. It was normal in Nazi germany and it is normal in the USA.
Maybe you think you used your engineering brain to understand how the collapse happened. But you did not, you just believed some bullshit story that was made so even children can understand, they even use the word pancake. I know you did not critically looked at the demolition because you cannot tell me anything about building 7's collapse. That is true because I know how you got your info and they don't tell you how nr 7 collapsed, so you just ignore that like a good patriot.
And what is physically impossible in destroying a building by structurally damaging its core support at ground level and cutting support structures on relvant places using thermite. It is way more possible doing it that way than setting fire to it. Did you get your engineering diploma at your birthday?
@bbkingdom LMAO, I seem to be able to question YOUR bullshit engineering! What makes you think I can't question the US posting BS? I can tell you PLENTY about WTC 7's Collapse, I can show you OTHER buildings that collapsed like WTC 7. Here video. aol. com / video-detail/ delft-university- of-technology- in-holland- on-fire-and- collapsing / 3741771392 You really have to stop believing what 7 year old conspiracy website pages tell you. WTC 7 hasn't been a mystery for years.
Well, you convince me of nothing. It is a fact that your story could happen and my story could happen. We cannot disprove any of the stories. But your story is just very unlikely physically and my story you may find unlikely politcally.
The video you gave me shows a partial collapse. Not at all like the smooth collapde of buidling 7.
I will stick with my story since it fits more the geopolitcal agenda of the US. If you want to believe in angry moslims, then good luck with that....
The Delft building is also not a steel construction. I am not sure building 7 was, but the WTC's were ofcourse. And you will explain me that warped metal, gave way to the heavy weight of the top part of the wtc, and every floor pancaked down. So now tell me about building 7, how did that go?
Ok, last questions. Why not just burn buildings down, why use explosives in demolition? The long slim towers, and the much wider buidling7 all dropped like a charm. If I were to fake it and needed the insurance money to pay for the operation it would be total complete pay out.
Is it so weird at WTC to expect the top structure to fall a bit to the side and leave the rest of the building mainly intact? And at building 7 only a part to fall first because of the wideness of the building?
Really. I don't understand. I did study, but it wasn't engineering. But I would really suspect an engineer to have big doubts about the instant failure of one or more complete floorsections. Buildig 7 the most. And then at wtc there must be a doubt about the resistence the top must feel so it would move to a side.
What is a conspiracy nutcase? Someone who knows that there are secret services in any country and mercenaries in a whole lot of countries and that industries tied to specific countries and biljonair investors fight over resources.
Or only that one believes that some of those investors and old political members come together to plan an campaign for a specific goal or vision.
Or only that such a plan could harm their fellow country man, at least the less fortunate...
Thank god there are still a lot of people like me. Even if in some cases the west (and the rich) are not involved in a big event (unlikely), we don't just blame our enemy (the poor). We look for the answers to motive, means and opportunity.
So we have the 3 answers for the moslim extremist story and we have them for some inside western group. And as far as I can see. The west has the biggest motivation, the best means and a lot of opportunity.
I also cannot imagine what president Bush would be without the war. It looks asthough he got elected just at the right time. He loved the war thingy and he and his administration lied their teeth of making it happen.
And the shot of him reading sweet childrens books to little children while the horrible attack took place is also way to thoughtfull. It is totaly out of character, and played wrong (book upside down).
If the people were not so high up in government any judicial system would have an obligation to investigate them on all levels. But I hope you do believe it is almost impossible to do that. Especially in 'war time' and especially when all politicians are angry and fearful.
You probably make enough money, live in a good neighbourhood and are relatively well off. The thought of attacking the hand that feeds you while most of the people don't join you, makes you blind and scared.
Look, it is impossible to have a civilian courts handle black operations. National security overrules all, and Bush stamped a lot of those words on a lot of papers. Your mind only sees civilian politics. It doesn't compute secret service, dark militairy and industrial campaings. You believe democracy really rid us of kings, aristocrats or other forms of absolute unelected power. Ofcourse this is not the case. The interests are much to big to be left over to 'the people'.
People also did the witch hunt like you claim. But that too was peer pressure. The leaders in church said they were witches that needed to be cleansed. That logic was enough for the majority to do what was asked. We on the other hand would have big doubts about this official line....
I have no proof. You also have no proof, you are just comfortably on the official line, so you do not need proof. But rest assured. If an event happens and big resources are involved, the super power USA will have a part in it. Most politicians and institutions will not know anything about it, but the people that have an interest in the resource, they know about and try to influence it. With Bush we just had a sample of those people getting in the highest office.
Please answere my questions about doubts about the demolition like drops. I would suspect an engineer to have thought the buildings would collapse sideways or only partly given the resistence of the intact bottom building part and the size of the floors. I would think it would take some convincing to make you believe the structures failed the way they did. If not, what level of engineering degree did you get?
Look, you showed me the Delft building. Well, building nr 7 looked a lot more like a demolition drop than de Delft one. Of course you will have some words to waste as to why that is, but in any case, building 7 looks like a demolition. Whole floors failed at once, no big pieces of wall just falling off, like in Delft.
I have given you a lot of political and physical views. Did that not register? It is mainly about China and the occupation of the eastern oil and land instead of China.
Do you believe when Larry Silverstein (a jew) said that 'they decided to pull it' meant they decided to pull people out or to pull the building down. Because both seemed to have occured. And I thought this guy also had upped his insurance on the building some weeks before the attack. And building 7 housed fbi or cia that was working on the 3 billion missing dollars at the pentagon.
@bbkingdom I believe Larry Silverstein was talking to a FIRE DEPT CHIEF. Why would he say "pull it" in demolition terms to him? The New York City FD doesn't do demolition. LOL NYC Bomb squads are police functions, not FD. They disarm bombs, not set them, and I was a bomb squad member for Oakland, remember? LOL You are wrong about the CIA, FBI, but who cares? Exploding anyone or anything does not destroy financial evidence now-a-days, it's all on SANS. DUH
Well, he said the same when he was talking to a journalist. "We decided to pull it". Maybe it is a bit of street lingo, but I almost only know these words in demolition terms. I do not know who he was talking to. But if it was FD then still he could mean demolition, because in any case, the FD needed to get the f out of there.
And again. The Delft building or other fire building destructions happen in stages, with big pieces falling of, most of the time not an (instant) collapse.
Well, ok, I can agree that "pull" meant to move the people out. Interestingly enough, the same fireguy says that there may be a bomb in the high school or somewhere. What was that? What were all these mumblings about bombs going off or being somewhere? More people at the site make claims about bombs.
And I quickly found: The term "pull it" means pull it over. The term isn't used much today, because of the modern equipment used by demolition contractors. Fifty years ago wrecking contractors were less affluent, they depended more on ingenuity in the work place than on equipment. This was especially true when large buildings were taken down with hand labor. In those situations most interior and exterior walls had to be cabled and "pulled" in onto floors.
Yeah well. The military had some experience in demolition and making explosives. I just conclude they use different chemicals than normal civilian demolition teams. In normal demolitions you indeed see a lot of bangs and then the building falls. It seems here they used explosions while the building was dropping, at least the wtc ones. But there was this FD guy talking about "boom boom boom" like a demolition. Also a big explosion (core bottom pillars?) was heard before the collapse.
The wtc collapse is a good feat. of demolition, and I guess they were never sure it would work completely. But it did. Now you tell me only specialised placed explosives can do that. But on the other hand a fire can almost do the same. So what is true? Can fire bring a building down in its footprint in just a few seconds or do we need math, physics and explosives and cuts at right places?
Ok, so without destroying the column (I did not see a column after an 'initial' collapse, but you tell me the column was intact) and without cutting the floor support at the columns. We can have a instant collapse that moves vertical without any or little horizontal movement. So again, why do we need demolition teams to have the same effect on other buildings? How come you believe this drop effect need a lot of precision or no precision at all.
You should believe, as a knowledgable physics person, that the top would stay or would fall to a side at the wtc towers. Maybe even the bottom 30 floors would not go down at all. And building 7 would fall apart in stages. That is what would be expected. That that did not happen. And that in combination with a right wing administration who write geopolitical visions about invading oil regions, who lie about weapons of mass destruction and who have relations with the enemy, makes it...
Another point of interest. Can you provide me with some evidence osama claimed the attack. Or any other group joyfully claiming the attack? If such a group did it, they would claim this victory over a super power with all the joy in the world.
The only thing I saw were Bin Laden videos, never claiming responsibility, and always a different size Bin Laden. Very faky CIA bs.
Is Al Queda a roque CIA sponsered group that was supposed to fight against Russia? Are these the same Wahibi fighters Bin Saud used to found Saudi Arabia. Are they not some form of merchaneries who fight for the highest payer?
Is invading a different country and not catching the perpetrators in the right country a sign of unknown geopolitcal visions. Doesn't it show your civilian logic is flawed? That you miss info about the motive...
You mean when Jihadist were defending their land and resources. They have been fighting the british before the Americans. But I have read the history of the creation of Saudi Arabia. In it the Whahibi religious fighters are used to spread fear and dominance of big pieces of arab land in order to bring them under one ruler. The Wahibis are a sect of extremely religious fighters that actualy fight for money. Al Quada seems to me to be the same group. No conspiracy, just history.
I just want to illustrate that your vision of international affairs is much more secretive and less democratic than you seem to acknowledge. Decisions are made on high levels and we only read the spinned version of it. There is little to no transparency as to why America or the British fight in other countries. And if there is some explenation it is always for a good humanitarian reason. Not for greed or self interest. That is how it works, propaganda an lies.
I gave you the name just to show you it was not a conspiracy book.
"Why we fight", I just quickly scanned youtube. I saw some old black and white stuff, of ww2. I saw some bombs drop, some words like freedom and the statue of liberty and stuff about dictators.
That of course is not why you fight. I am sure a lot of soldiers fight for that type of 'good side' reason. But it is just the same propaganda as any country makes. The decision to wage war is based on greed or self defence.
I am not anti jewish, but I do blame them for the murderous right wing policies towards palestine and the whole region.
The collaboration you are talking about could better be called, bribing en coercion. There was absolutly no way Bush would not go to war. All the demonstrations, the UN en the Atomic Energy Agency could not change their minds.
The US is not always so positive. Their pro privatisation, greed for oil and anti socialist views have killed and made millions suffer.
Merlin please. It is all propaganda. The kapitalist system will also be brutal when lead by right wing dictator.
I have no fear or problems with socialism. I can even believe in a sort of democratic kapitalistic socialism. It is what we have here in europe. The really needy and badd off people can get helth insurance and some little money. It is the civilised thing to do. Not every socialistic idea has to be killed. Your country is radically kapitalistic and is almost killing itself
I cannot say that when the Dutch ruled half the world we did not do very dark things, like your country. And the British also know how to wage wars towards less strong and poorer people. But the US is definitely not an exception.
You fight wars because your country wants a resource from a country but the countries leader does not want to privatise or sell out and tries to protect his people, or his own bank account.
Ok well. Now I know why you think 911 is never a conspircay. You can only blame other countrie because you believe all the propaganda of your army and country. Well, thank god we have less of it, so I really do not know what it is like, but c'mon. It is impossoble that your country is the only country were no bad leaders rule. And the whole world can see the coruption in your country. The whole economic collapse is because of coruption. Privatisation can bring unwanted power.
Why be against socialism. Socialism can mean labour rights, health care, free public transport, free education, for all. You should be against dictators, not socialism in general. Eastern europe and the sovjet union was not bad and destroyed because of communism. It was bad because of dictatorship and destroyed because western europe and a bit the US were financialy smarter and financially broke the Sovjets, probably from within with friend like Gorby and Jeltsin.
It even says so in your constitution. The whole damn thing is written to ward of unelected power. But some of your industries have a firm grip on politics. A lot of advisers and senators work just to promote the company or investment group they belong to. They steer decision towards less rights for people and more freedom for private companies or theirs specifically. This is why the oil rig was destroyed. Just kill your tv for a while and buy a good book....
I am from Holland, not the UK/Britain. We have a long history of being kapitalistic. We even invented shareholdership. Without us you people would not have wall street. But our countries in Europe have it overall better than yours. We do not put the most people in jail of the wordl, we do not kick people out of their houses and leave them rot on the street and we try to have an education system that actually teaches something. Maybe visit europe once....
Since the privitasiation of our trains they do not run on time. Since the privatasation of our health insurance we pay triple the amount. This list can go on and on. America and Britain have pushed the whole world towards privatisation and for me it only means that industries can be bought by Americans and make life more expensive for us. Some things should be run publicly, not privatised. Like the basics: health, transport, education and so on. It is what everybody needs...
Look, because your kapitlastic banking coruption at the fed and meryl lynch and others we have lost more money then the so called unpayable friendly social system we have. Kapitalism or socialism are not the things that make it break, corruption and dictatorship are...
No,it just means the US and Europe have played the world hegemony game better and promoted and forced their kapitalistic system through IMF and WorldBank on others. We just have to wait and see how long it takes before the system collapse. The current crisis is a good example of the probably failure of the system in the long run. Kapitalism also does not address the gap between rich and poor. Kapitalism can bring the war of the classes. Where the rich have to fight the poor once more
Kapitalism has to be regulated. In America you are beaten to death with propaganda that tells you that government cannot be trusted and you need more freedom. But what they do is remove restrictions government places on industry, so the companies get more freedom. Not the people. And that is very dangerous. I am more afraid of monopolistic dictatorial companies that have unelected leaders than my government, who I can elect....
@bbkingdom LOL, I read this once in a brochure in high school. I grew up since then, maybe you have not.? LOL The Capitalistic system has lasted longer than the socialist system in at least 16 countries that we know of, hasn't it? Kapitalism CREATES the rich, not the poor. The poor is what we start with and the ONLY class under socialism. The only war of classes is between no class people like you and the reality of your failure.
So you have brochures about geopolitical dark operations and you have brochures about the excesses of capitalism in highschool. But when you get older, you go back to kindergarten view of America and their enterprise model? You believe whatever makes you not feel bad, is that it? Well, for a citizen of a country which builds the most weapons in the world and jails the most people in the world you are doing a good job of staying positive...
Ok, you are hopeless. Keep shouting USA USA. Sell your weapons so the world keeps killing itself and stay afraid and feel superiour to all other countries. It is probably what you do best. But do not expect we have the same love you feel for your country. Being taken over by Americans or the Nazi's, it doesn't matter to me, both would give me my television, make me feel good about them while waging war on many many other people for some shitty resource.
Maybe try to have a more balanced opinion about your own country and about other countries on this planet. I would not have to attack you and your country so much if you already know about its shortcomings. And a lot of other countries are not so bad as you seem to think. Industrialisation and technological advancements bring wealth to this world. Not capitalism or our western arrogance.
We hardly have any street-hookers because prostitution is legal in our country and therefore prostitutes have labour rights and decent working conditions. Since we also use our bikes on our thousands of miles of bike lanes, and we don't especially eat American junk food, our street-hookers probably look better than you. So the next time you travel thousands of miles to see ugly street-hookers, try looking at your mommy first....
@Merlin5x5 Don't insult the Dutch. They are among our closest allies. Good people, generous, friendly and truthful. If you hang around where street whores hang out, it's no wonder you got the wrong impression. They suffered greatly during WWII and are among the only Europeans that never forgot what the Americans and the British did for them. They honor our dead with immaculate cemeteries and local people tend to graves not in cemeteries. Dank u.
@42turk42 Wish that were true, but the German blitzkrieg THRU holland and the low countries is about as well documented as anything in history. LOL wikipedia. org/wiki/ Battle_of_France ok? IN World War 1, it was worse. The Dutch used their Neutrality to TRADE for the Germans all over the world, lengthening the War. SO much so, that the British had to BLOCKADE Denmark and Holland starting in 1916. That blockade Starved the German people, and war machine, and helped end the war
The book is called 'The Dessert King' written by David Howarth. It shows the dealings Ibn Saud had with the British and with the Wahibis and others while conquesting for the creation of Saudi Arabia. All kinds of stuff that was not in British papers at the time I guess, because now we also don't read about geopolitical and colonial protectorate stuff in the papers...
Who's against a real and independent investigation of the 9/11 attacks?
There have been 80+ of them since 2001, half of them by FOREIGN engineering organizations. Send me an email, I'll send you the current list.
ALL of which backup, and come to the same conclusions of NIST.
On the other hand, you have a TRUTHER lab report that had to pay $600 to be published in an egyptian based journal, for which the engineering editor resigned in protest.
@bg1379 People believed the Earth was flat until they explored it? Yeah, thats how it happened. Oh, and the moon was made out of cheese until someone tried a piece. Wait wait, nothing ever fell until an apple did.
Being ignorant and following the masses does not make one rational.
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Ok now, why would the government lie to its dear a loving public? They love us as caring parents! They work day and night so we can have a better future, even if it means invading a foreign country so fuel can be cheaper and our grand-kids have the chance to fight in a war in the future.
No, thats not it. They lie because they know that we are not going to do a thing about it - partially because we are stupid, and generally because people do believe they are there for us.
Redmailnet 2 months ago
No missile made on this planet causes that much black smoke.
Only an airliner with a lot of fuel on board could do that.
You conspiracy nuts can't change the physical laws of the universe.
I am beginning to wonder if all these unfounded and mythical 'Conspiracy Theories' are not really Islamic Fundamentalists trying to cover their asses.
Sad thing is that some people are buying into it.
hammerogod 2 months ago
How could a Boeing 757 Jetliner crashing into one of the most heavily fortified military installation's in the world not have been captured on CCTV?
It defies plausibility; haven said that why has NATIONAL SECURITY confiscated and sequestered the Virginia Transportation Authorities video footage? The Citgo gas stations footage? The Sheraton hotel's video footage? Why hasn't any, save 3 minutes of useless video, footage from the Pentagons 84 CCTV cameras been made public?
wisdomtrek 3 months ago
@wisdomtrek I understand your skepticism of 9/11 because of all the hype out there. But, think about your statement for a minute. Military bases and some government installations, such as the Pentagon, do not want videos of the complex to be made public. It's a security thing. Would it be wise for a top secret building to release their own and other's CCTV footage to the world? Yes, this makes many conspiracy theorist uneasy, but it has to be done.
MrBlemph 3 months ago
@MrBlemph Think about your statement for a second... what's so insecure about proving that a plane hit the Pentagon? Or, what if a missile did hit it and all those cameras clearly show that? Well, that doesn't go with the story of a plane hitting... better confiscate them.
norevelation 3 months ago
@MrBlemph cctv not being released, for our own safety?? really? nope, no plane hit the pentagon, if ppl saw what really happened they would take down the murderous US govt instantly!!
wellifthemediasaysit 2 months ago
@wisdomtrek WHY hasn't any video of the Pentagon attack been shown, it's because it would show a MISSILE and not an aeroplane hitting the building. So how would the government explain that, they couldn't so they stick with their LYING story and expect everyone to believe it. The whole thing is a SHAM.
TheEgertak 1 month ago
@rejco100 you would run out too if you were there. I mean come on two planes just crashed into the twin towers of the world trade center they had no clue what was coming for them!! Don't be a jerk!!!!
daniella9755 4 months ago
Look at all those Pentagon employees race out of there...COWARDS!
rejco100 5 months ago
@rejco100 your an idiot
mommaswatchinUagain 4 months ago
@rejco100 ya yur a tough guy that would have stayed right keyboard warrior?
quincee33 4 months ago
Its a bird its a plane.NO ITS A MISSILE. :L
nb45001 6 months ago 9
cool
billpage 6 months ago
what was that black thing that flew by at the end. why am i asking you lot you just saw what i just saw.
4246theone 8 months ago
@4246theone it was a helicopter military or civilian it wasn't clear enough to tell.. but it didn't sound like a military copter and it didn't look to be painter military colors not even coast guard
xadam2dudex 8 months ago
@xadam2dudex naaa, i can see the helicopter mate. i'm talking about the thing that flies past at 28 seconds. it must be a very fast bird. peace.
4246theone 8 months ago
@4246theone yeah it was just a bird.. the restricted field of vision made it look like it was going fast but it was just going a normal speed for a bird
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ctrlf 1 year ago
Did anyone see the same"Bird" fly by at the end of the vid.Looks just like the ones at the wtc???uav bird?
Fasted757 1 year ago
@Fasted757 LOL XD
I'm not laughing at you, it's just that "UAV bird" made me laugh xD
psphacker8 1 year ago
Who shot the missile at the pentagon, who me? couldnt be.
Bush did it.
8fl0z 1 year ago 7
BTW,
The British Forces in Afghanistan are part of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), a NATO-led security and development mission in Afghanistan established by the United Nations Security Council on the 20th December 2001, as envisaged by the Bonn Agreement.
The UN, famously, wrote the Bonn Agreenent within a
week of the 9/11 attacks.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
I have many questions but one thing i do know without a doubt the blue dot you see in this pic it not any kind of aircraft.I will not get into any discussions but for sure this is not a plane of any kind.If anyone wants to know what really happened in the smoke is the answers.Colors etc.I will not answer any comments.Thanks.
HaroldWillett 1 year ago
10,560= 2 miles tower height? 13,500 fell down in 15 seconds 9depending on which source you consider reliable. lets say they fell in 25 seconds much longer than anyone suggests
still a lil too fast isn't it lol!
ishredu 1 year ago
bg1379 just look up how many buildings have caught fire and " collapsed " after burning for a couple of hours.
RevKR187 1 year ago
if it did truely collapse we would see intact floors not a huge dust cloud.
f0rumrr 1 year ago
@f0rumrr
GO lookup VERINAGE, moron.
Gravity collapse of Steel Frame buildings has been performed since the 1890s, and Verinage does it with Hydraulic Jacks.
Same explosions, dust clouds, pops, bangs, and falling into their own footprint nonsense that TRUTHERS put so much stock in, and
NO EXPLOSIVES, numbnuts.
.
Duhhh
.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 VERINAGE is a man made destruction device/process
your point?
ishredu 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 ROFL Verinage someone you debunkers hold dear. Fucking hilarious. Explain to me how that explains for half the the building was turned to dust, and the over 1000 degree basement that lasted for over 6 months. If you where a true scientist, you would ask those questions. Not bring up bullshit verinage, that if anything proves your ignorance even more. And if you atcutally look at a veriange demo, it doesnt have the same charateristics of the wtc.
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Why are they removing forensic evidence from a crime scene? Granted the "C" looks like my company's logo. Plenty of fuselages and retired airplanes out in the desert, therefor not conclusive. Could be planted evidence. SOP is for the National Transportation Safety Board to rent some hangar close by and reconstruct the remains of the airplane. Not done! Why?
99% of every part on a commercial airliner has a clearly marked part number. Show us the parts!
Lying Ratbastards!, we will hang you!
musolinilampost 1 year ago
Bg1379, if there is NOTHING to hide and the OFFICIAL story is true, then the government should show us the MULTIPLE videos from the multitude of cameras, Pentagon, hotels, gas stations, surveillance, etc that captured the event on 9/11. NO, instead they only allow us to see a gate surveillance camera video that is not true video but a frame a second cheapie footage. WHY? Why cant' they show us a video with the full footage of a PLANE hitting the Pentagon? Because it's NOT a plane!!!
ConspiracyForTruth 1 year ago
This was the worst thing that i have ever seen i lived 3 miles from here, i moved in sep 10 2001 i saw the plane and heard everything..
Justin29150 1 year ago
i agreed with u aza1aus !!
911 was seed of war ,
covernments always lie !
buuust 2 years ago 2
And I get my info from a wide variety of sources, never just from one place. And the news is nothing but controlled propaganda. You would be foolish to believe everything that comes on the news.
aza1aus 2 years ago 3
Hmmmm. . . look up "conspiracy theorist," first of all. Second, people believed the Earth was flat up until they explored it, which is when everyone realized that it was round, the idea came to relatively quickly. This topic of what planes flew into the towers is completely closed to discussion for anyone of rational reasoning.. videos have been produced, and witnesses have reached a consensus. Case closed. And, for the record, some still believe the Earth is flat and the Holocaust is a myth.
bg1379 2 years ago
I don't need to look up conspiracy theorist, & I am aware some people still believe the Earth is flat, & some think the holocaust is a myth etc, the list goes on. Who cares? And exactly, the ppl changed their long held beliefs about the Earth once new information had emerged. Everything was no longer as it appeared to be. Some pieces of the puzzle are still missing in this whole 9/11 thing. No one knows exact 100% truth, they can believe that all they want though, idc.
aza1aus 2 years ago
You know what, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt- what is it that is still missing in the 9 11 puzzle?
bg1379 2 years ago
There are far too many questions still properly unanswered about 9/11. Like the collapse of building 7, the news report that said building 7 had collapsed when it was right there on screen & then they mysteriously got cut off, the one & only camera view of the pentagon being hit, why didn't they release more vidz if there is nothing to hide, the sudden pancake collapse of the towers is bs, bush lying about when he saw the towers hit on tv etc, the list goes on...
aza1aus 2 years ago 3
@bg1379 let me answer that
#1. 110 story buildings falling down in slightly above or below(depending on which source you quote) ten seconds. you do realize that even IF they took a full minute to fall that in itself would have been grounds to suspect controlled demolition.
#2 molten steel that burned until dec. (jet fuel?)
get back to me with a rational answer.
can you do it?
give it a shot.
ishredu 1 year ago
@ishredu
I realize you posted this nonsense 3 weeks ago, so humor me.
1. 110 stories of WTC fell down in 15 seconds, from the 9/11 commision.
WHERE the fuck did you get TEN seconds, Rosie Odonnel?
2. Molten Steel, which was NEVER found, creates a flat top and smooth surfaces. As ANY liquid does, unless YOUR water glass stands at 45 degrees.
NOBODY saw ANY molten steel HOT until december, maybe you should show that.?
Are you really that stupid?
Because your mommy should know.
.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 nope got the ten seconds from NIST.
molten "metal" no one knows if it's steel (why we need to have it reinvestigated) can be seen in many video's shot in dec.
maybe you should pull your brainwashed head out of your ass for a minute
you are starting to sound like a lunatic.
especially when you seem to be soo against a real and independant investigation
why is that exactly?
ishredu 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 BTW....if it fell in 25 seconds that would still be too fast for uncrontrolled demo.
but think what you want and verinage is a man made/controlled demo device/ so that idiotic point is pretty much moot
unless you're suggesting that verinage was the method used
ishredu 1 year ago
@ishredu
That's HORSESHIT, moron.
NIST and the 9/11 Commission BOTH take the WTC fall time from fireman radio recordings, and the NYU LAMONT Doherty Seismic center. They are BOTH at 15/16 seconds.
SO, nice BIG FAIL there, sonny boy.
The point of Verinage is NONE of the symptoms of EXPLOSIVES use was present. They gravity collapsed because 200 Ton Jets hit them, at 500+ mph, and then they burned catastrophically.
SO that's another BIG FAIL, a double FAIL, congratulations.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 don't care like I said 25 seconds would be short for an unassisted collapse so have it your way ..
your point in verinage is again moot because that would suggest complicity
is THAT what you're saying?
because as you know that is a form of controlled demo.
ishredu 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 ... Merlin, you are a fucking idiot in the highest regard. 9/11 was NOT planned or committed by Bin Laden and 19 Saudi hijackers.
It was planned by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle and the rest of the P.N.A.C. neocon gang and it was carried out by Mossad and CIA agents. Period.
perrysafer 1 year ago
@perrysafer
Well, LOL, I think little idiot twoofers like yourself beating off to a giant conspiracy are kind of a bad comment on population genetics, myself. You have to wonder what kind of Hillbilly Retard family would whelp an idiot who would believe that.
LOL
I mean, no matter how you can detect Mossad and CIA from your Mom's basement in Bumfuck, Egypt, you would have to concede they were "Secret Agency plots", that were "found out" by idiots like you.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Look Merlin, the US and Israel want more of the east under their wing. The US fears that Russia and formost China will grow to powerfull if they control the eurasia region. The US has to be there, it is just like playing risk. In history it is more normal than strange that a country fakes an attack of the enemy to get into a fight at the time and place of their choosing. Maybe it is far to much for you to believe, but it is common sense when dealing with survival of societies.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
You know you are evidence of genetic pool damage, don't you?
It's NOT like playing RISK, that's a GAME, moron, and NOT
being able to distingquish between a game and real, complex
geopolitics is typical for your idiot generation.
1. The US is not a political MONOLITH.
It doesn't act with one mind at any time, it acts with thousands.
2. Why fake an attack on ourselves when we have BEEN
UNDER ATTACK from Arab Jihadists for 40 years??
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
1. I know. It is a right wing part of the militairy industrial establishment, the Bush family is and old family in those circles, but Bush is not especialy important. Grandfather Prescot Bush has helped finance the Nationalist Socialist Party in Germany. These people write plans about what the US should do to counter China and occupying the middle east is what they think is the best.
In every way they play Risk, but they use real people like you by deceit of propaganda.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
2. The people who are behind the faked attack have probably done outstanding bussiness since then. The Arab Jihadists are not attack the US, the US is attacking them and they speak jihads mostly to get the US out of their country. The US has killed so much people now, it is ridiculous. And it is the only country who ever nuked another, twice. And somehow, they got away with it, that is democratic kapitalistic propaganda machine for you.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
You would believe that the US generals would rather order an
attack on the building they were sitting in, than simply tell the
US a pre-emptive attack on Afghanistan and Iraq is needed?
LOL
Consider the stupidity of your claim.
EVERY country we have ever conquered is now richer and
free-er than it ever was, INCLUDING the nation we nuked
TWICE. Let's face it, killing many europeans made the
world a better place than it's ever been.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
And ofcourse I know about our gene pool. It as a sad fact that after millions of years people are still easily impressed by power and glitters. The most horrible human suffering on mass scale can be ignored when power tells you or glitters distract you. I would advise you to stop advocating the official story for a while and think things over.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Well, in the end, I love the fact the Netherlands is dying out.
What a nasty country that's always been. TWO world wars
were fought because the NETHERLANDS would not fortify
it's borders against Germany like France did.
The entire country was full of German suck asses who
believed Hitler's slanders of the Zionist Jews, Bankers,
and the nameless rich. Just liks you do.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Hitlers Germany also promised a wealthy live for their civilians. A car and televison for everbody. Very proud patriots. A murderous regime that was not believed to be true by themselfs. A fake attack to help rise to power by martial law. Always good weather politics an television. Enormous enrichment by a part of the political and financial class. It all sounds a lot like your country...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
LOL, you do remember the US army smashing thru
your country to fight the Germans you admire, don't you?
Oh, and Hitlers enormous LIE, was about HIS version
of YOUR TRUTHER Nonsense. That there was a giant
conspiracy that controlled everything, and was stealing
the future of Germany. Isn't that YOUR line?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Our political systems function to manage our countries internal affairs. But there is still a lot of power at groups who own/invested in our main industries. If you would go up the ladder you will find only some hundred people owning all major production, financial and militairy industries. We can call them aristocrats or oligarchs. No countries political system functions seperate of them. Hitler wanted to nationalise these interest and kick foreign, mainly jewish, domination out.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Well, you want those who own major industry to NOT have a
voice in national affairs bigger than YOURS?
Why?
WTF do you know about the CAR industry, for example?
How many do YOU employ?
Want to see the results of people like you?
Search for "Detroit in Ruins" here on Youtube.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Your politics are so absurd they resemble some Brochure
or Pamphlet you read when you were 16 or less.
Everything you think is the characteristic of an oligarch,
or aristocrat, or Zionist jew is wrong.
They lied to you.
That's why eastern Europe is in ruins, 50 years ago,
it was the heart, and wealthiest part of europe.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
So your trilateral commission is not a private company who has more influence on foreign strategic decisions than your senators? Money, the life blood of every decision is not in control by a private entity? The UN was not paid for by the Rockefellers. People with more power than a small country just sit on their ass and let politics ruin their vision of the future?
I think your politics are naïve. It is law of the jungle out there, not democracy.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Maybe you don't get it. Multiple sources of influence are
allowed and legal, and encouraged in the US. That's why
OUR legal, financial and political decisions are better handled
than in europe, before Obama took us in YOUR direction.
LOL, you have gone down the Rabbit Hole to Nazi Wonderland,
FOOL, which is NOT a surprise. IS there a conspiracy you
don't believe in?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Wow, the Trilateral Commission, LOL.
Haven't heard about that from conspiracy wierdos since the
JIMMY CARTER administration, LOL.
Weren't they the sellouts to the Alien Elite in the X files?
I think your politics are largely fantasy / fiction.
Your infantile mind can't seem to grasp that in an
advanced world, there will always be influences
greater than you. And for good reason, lol!
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Ok merlin. You are right. You people are really under attack by Jihadist in far away countries who live in caves and don't like your freedom. Your government is very trustworthy and waging war is always the best solution to any problem. The 911 attack was out of the blue, thats why your president wat caught reading childrens books to children. Torture hardly happens in Americans name. Most Americans shit icecream and your industries always help out making the planet better.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Actually, those people in caves were:
1. Better educated than you. SIX Bach degrees and one Masters.
2. Better traveled than you. (US, europe and middle east) You haven't.
3. MOST had combat training, you don't.
4. They had FIVE commercial licensed pilots. You are not.
5. MOST had trained for THREE years. Mohammed Atta for FIVE.
I doubt you have EVER trained that long for anything.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Some of the so called hijackers were not even on the plane. There passports/indentity were just stolen and used. The hijackers you are talking about are comming out of a comic book written by the cia.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
LOL, hijackers that are still alive, but I can't show them to you.
watch?v=uFO30pEv11E
I think THAT claim was debunked less than TWO weeks after
it was made, and the BBC WORLD has TWICE pointed out
it's error. Too bad you don't use that part, huh?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I mean, I understand. The Dutch are used to causing wars by
not defending themselves, as in WW1 and WW2.
YOU believe that it's not correct to defend the west when it
comes under attack, because, after TWO DEFEATS, you got
your country handed back to you, every time.
Didn't you?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Were did the money come from for Germany to build their super army? Who borrowed to the NAZI's? America was always pro NAZI and anti jewish, only after a lot of shit like the camps we could change the minds of you fucks. There is the blow back again. You give arms and money to groups to aggresivly make them do what you want, and then unintended consecuences happen, like the extermination of millions of jews. Your country overall is like a 9 year old. Greedy, not so smart, self loving
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
SURE Fella, I understand. Now back into your cell.
I don't want to have to use the Taser on you, Bro.
America was NEVER pro-nazi, lol.
That's why the American BUNDT movement got
it's ass kicked in riots all over the US.
My country seems to be mature enough to hand
YOUR country back to the Dutch TWICE.
You do know the three strikes rule, don't you?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
You are a proud Nationalist/Patriot. I must conclude that you are incapable of processing information that makes your country look bad. Your country will continue to fight and kill poor people and corrupt the rich, while presenting it beautifully on your television sets. Keep dreaming your American dream. The unelected powers will continue anyways. So it really doesn't matter you like sweet lies. It was normal in Nazi germany and it is normal in the USA.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I am an engineer first.
You can't make me believe that the US Government is
capable of doing the physically impossible, just because
you don't like it. George Bush can't be both a genius, and
a fool, depending on your mood.
Now, did you come up with an alternative to the B 757 yet?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Maybe you think you used your engineering brain to understand how the collapse happened. But you did not, you just believed some bullshit story that was made so even children can understand, they even use the word pancake. I know you did not critically looked at the demolition because you cannot tell me anything about building 7's collapse. That is true because I know how you got your info and they don't tell you how nr 7 collapsed, so you just ignore that like a good patriot.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
And what is physically impossible in destroying a building by structurally damaging its core support at ground level and cutting support structures on relvant places using thermite. It is way more possible doing it that way than setting fire to it. Did you get your engineering diploma at your birthday?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Can I point out the OBVIOUS???
The WTC core survived the initial collapse of the floors.
That's what makes Demolition so improbable.
Controlled Demolition HAS to attack the core first.
NIST's Bridge Truss failure leading to progressive collapse does NOT.
Sorry, I got my engineering diploma at 31, after
10 years in explosives in the army and then bomb squads.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Well, you convince me of nothing. It is a fact that your story could happen and my story could happen. We cannot disprove any of the stories. But your story is just very unlikely physically and my story you may find unlikely politcally.
The video you gave me shows a partial collapse. Not at all like the smooth collapde of buidling 7.
I will stick with my story since it fits more the geopolitcal agenda of the US. If you want to believe in angry moslims, then good luck with that....
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
The Delft building is also not a steel construction. I am not sure building 7 was, but the WTC's were ofcourse. And you will explain me that warped metal, gave way to the heavy weight of the top part of the wtc, and every floor pancaked down. So now tell me about building 7, how did that go?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Jesus, moron, you can SEE the steel skeleton of the
DELFT university building in the video. The staff buildings
were being expanded, with the addition of floors on top.
WTC 7 happened pretty much like DELFT, a long term
exposure to fire. Fire makes steel, and it's pretty good
at destroying it, even on YOUR planet.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Ok, last questions. Why not just burn buildings down, why use explosives in demolition? The long slim towers, and the much wider buidling7 all dropped like a charm. If I were to fake it and needed the insurance money to pay for the operation it would be total complete pay out.
Is it so weird at WTC to expect the top structure to fall a bit to the side and leave the rest of the building mainly intact? And at building 7 only a part to fall first because of the wideness of the building?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Really. I don't understand. I did study, but it wasn't engineering. But I would really suspect an engineer to have big doubts about the instant failure of one or more complete floorsections. Buildig 7 the most. And then at wtc there must be a doubt about the resistence the top must feel so it would move to a side.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Now also tell me. Is Alan Hart a whistleblower, or do you call him a conspircay nutcase?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I assume you mean the Alan Hart who claimed that
nameless arab building contractors told him the WTC
was a CD, but has never cleared that up by telling us who
where or how.
LOL, Oh yeah, he's a conspiracy nutcase.
Pretty much, oh yeah.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
What is a conspiracy nutcase? Someone who knows that there are secret services in any country and mercenaries in a whole lot of countries and that industries tied to specific countries and biljonair investors fight over resources.
Or only that one believes that some of those investors and old political members come together to plan an campaign for a specific goal or vision.
Or only that such a plan could harm their fellow country man, at least the less fortunate...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
How many Americans would kill Americans for money?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Hummmm, the answer is Yes, to all of the above.
Because, after all, you don't believe just ONE of those conspiracies,
you believe them all. Conspiracy nutjobs like you have given up ALL
discernment, not just a little. Like Jason Berman from Loose Change,
You idiots believe 19 out of 20 conspiracy theories, and you keep track.
Like you and Prescott Bush, you go LOOKING for conspiracy theories
to believe in. It's a genetic stupidity, down to the bone.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Thank god there are still a lot of people like me. Even if in some cases the west (and the rich) are not involved in a big event (unlikely), we don't just blame our enemy (the poor). We look for the answers to motive, means and opportunity.
So we have the 3 answers for the moslim extremist story and we have them for some inside western group. And as far as I can see. The west has the biggest motivation, the best means and a lot of opportunity.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I also cannot imagine what president Bush would be without the war. It looks asthough he got elected just at the right time. He loved the war thingy and he and his administration lied their teeth of making it happen.
And the shot of him reading sweet childrens books to little children while the horrible attack took place is also way to thoughtfull. It is totaly out of character, and played wrong (book upside down).
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
If the people were not so high up in government any judicial system would have an obligation to investigate them on all levels. But I hope you do believe it is almost impossible to do that. Especially in 'war time' and especially when all politicians are angry and fearful.
You probably make enough money, live in a good neighbourhood and are relatively well off. The thought of attacking the hand that feeds you while most of the people don't join you, makes you blind and scared.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Again, you think the US is monolithic.
There are plenty of 1960s judges infesting the courts, go find one.
Present your case, (I doubt you have one) and see if you
get a hearing.
LOL
Not even the TRUTH conspiracy websites try to get a
hearing for this conspiracy claim, because they KNOW
they have no case.
Why do you think they are on YouTube?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Look, it is impossible to have a civilian courts handle black operations. National security overrules all, and Bush stamped a lot of those words on a lot of papers. Your mind only sees civilian politics. It doesn't compute secret service, dark militairy and industrial campaings. You believe democracy really rid us of kings, aristocrats or other forms of absolute unelected power. Ofcourse this is not the case. The interests are much to big to be left over to 'the people'.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
LOL, I don't use civilian politics.
I am simply testing TRUTHERS on what they believe.
IF you believe what you claim, present it in public.
You don't do this, because people would dismiss
you as a kook, and rightly so.
LIVE THE DREAM, lol. Present your facts.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
People also did the witch hunt like you claim. But that too was peer pressure. The leaders in church said they were witches that needed to be cleansed. That logic was enough for the majority to do what was asked. We on the other hand would have big doubts about this official line....
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Witch Hunts? please....
The WTC CD theory is dismissed because it's physically
impossible, NOT because it's politically improbable.
Though it's both.
TRUTHERs haven't solved who, what, when or how on
that issue. Whether it's nano thermite, or disappearing
planes, or whatever the FAD issue is this week, it's all
so physically improbable that we never get to the politics.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I have no proof. You also have no proof, you are just comfortably on the official line, so you do not need proof. But rest assured. If an event happens and big resources are involved, the super power USA will have a part in it. Most politicians and institutions will not know anything about it, but the people that have an interest in the resource, they know about and try to influence it. With Bush we just had a sample of those people getting in the highest office.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Once again with the fantasies, please....
I am comfortable with the official line because I can demo
how it works, what it explains, and why it's logical.
YOUR political fantasy can't explain the simplest question.
IF 9/11 was a US Gov plot, why did the US Gov lose the battle?
Why didn't NORAD work, Bush and Cheney emerge as HEROs?
That would justify a war also, you know.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Please answere my questions about doubts about the demolition like drops. I would suspect an engineer to have thought the buildings would collapse sideways or only partly given the resistence of the intact bottom building part and the size of the floors. I would think it would take some convincing to make you believe the structures failed the way they did. If not, what level of engineering degree did you get?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
They are NOT demolition like drops.
Here is the Las Vegas site for Hotel implosions.
vegas. com/lounge/implosions. ht ml
I LIVE HERE in las vegas, and have attended SIX CDs.
The WTC 1,2,7 buildings look nothing like these CDs.
Sorry, they just don't.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Look, you showed me the Delft building. Well, building nr 7 looked a lot more like a demolition drop than de Delft one. Of course you will have some words to waste as to why that is, but in any case, building 7 looks like a demolition. Whole floors failed at once, no big pieces of wall just falling off, like in Delft.
I have given you a lot of political and physical views. Did that not register? It is mainly about China and the occupation of the eastern oil and land instead of China.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I believe 'rebuilding american defences' is the project that lead to the attacks. And that shows the geo political plan.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Do you believe when Larry Silverstein (a jew) said that 'they decided to pull it' meant they decided to pull people out or to pull the building down. Because both seemed to have occured. And I thought this guy also had upped his insurance on the building some weeks before the attack. And building 7 housed fbi or cia that was working on the 3 billion missing dollars at the pentagon.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Well, he said the same when he was talking to a journalist. "We decided to pull it". Maybe it is a bit of street lingo, but I almost only know these words in demolition terms. I do not know who he was talking to. But if it was FD then still he could mean demolition, because in any case, the FD needed to get the f out of there.
And again. The Delft building or other fire building destructions happen in stages, with big pieces falling of, most of the time not an (instant) collapse.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Sorry, but can you provide a source for demolition companies
using "pull it" as a demolition term?
Because I can provide a source for demolition companies
denying that's an industry term.
Implosionworld. com, who also did a debunking issue.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
It is in this list: htt p://w ww.thefreedictionary. com/pull
They use 'pull down'.
Could you provide me with a fire department where they use 'pull it' when referring to moving people out of a building?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
LMAO, the free dictionary?
SURE, I can provide you with FIREMEN USING the
term pull it, as they removed themselves from the area
on 9/11.
watch?v=43F54hR0NW8
It's an RKowens video, but go to 2:48, and you can
hear the firefighters on 9/11 say it themselves.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Well, ok, I can agree that "pull" meant to move the people out. Interestingly enough, the same fireguy says that there may be a bomb in the high school or somewhere. What was that? What were all these mumblings about bombs going off or being somewhere? More people at the site make claims about bombs.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
There were LOTS of explosions going off.
Fly a plane into a building, that kind of thing happens.
Nobody knew at the time there were no bombs,
it's confusing when you are under attack.
Anything else?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
And I quickly found: The term "pull it" means pull it over. The term isn't used much today, because of the modern equipment used by demolition contractors. Fifty years ago wrecking contractors were less affluent, they depended more on ingenuity in the work place than on equipment. This was especially true when large buildings were taken down with hand labor. In those situations most interior and exterior walls had to be cabled and "pulled" in onto floors.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Fun site the vegas demolition site. But if building 7 was somewhere in the list it would not look strangly, except it had no fireworks...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
It also didn't have high explosives.
Look at the implosion site again. IN EVERY ONE, you will see
SHARP, Blue or Red "Stars" before the collapse.
That's the HE.
The reports are like rifle shots, but VERY LOUD. (2 miles away)
HE explosions are chemical. They produce COHERENT light.
Basically, a "STAR" is unfocused laser light.
Did you see any at the WTC?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Yeah well. The military had some experience in demolition and making explosives. I just conclude they use different chemicals than normal civilian demolition teams. In normal demolitions you indeed see a lot of bangs and then the building falls. It seems here they used explosions while the building was dropping, at least the wtc ones. But there was this FD guy talking about "boom boom boom" like a demolition. Also a big explosion (core bottom pillars?) was heard before the collapse.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
The wtc collapse is a good feat. of demolition, and I guess they were never sure it would work completely. But it did. Now you tell me only specialised placed explosives can do that. But on the other hand a fire can almost do the same. So what is true? Can fire bring a building down in its footprint in just a few seconds or do we need math, physics and explosives and cuts at right places?
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
The WTC was never a demolition.
Controlled Demolition HAS to attack the CORE columns.
Which survived the initial collapse.
NIST's explanation of Bridge Truss collapse allows the
core columns to stand, as they obviously did.
IMPACT AND FIRE caused the Bridge Truss collapse.
Simple as it gets.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Ok, so without destroying the column (I did not see a column after an 'initial' collapse, but you tell me the column was intact) and without cutting the floor support at the columns. We can have a instant collapse that moves vertical without any or little horizontal movement. So again, why do we need demolition teams to have the same effect on other buildings? How come you believe this drop effect need a lot of precision or no precision at all.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
You should believe, as a knowledgable physics person, that the top would stay or would fall to a side at the wtc towers. Maybe even the bottom 30 floors would not go down at all. And building 7 would fall apart in stages. That is what would be expected. That that did not happen. And that in combination with a right wing administration who write geopolitical visions about invading oil regions, who lie about weapons of mass destruction and who have relations with the enemy, makes it...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Another point of interest. Can you provide me with some evidence osama claimed the attack. Or any other group joyfully claiming the attack? If such a group did it, they would claim this victory over a super power with all the joy in the world.
The only thing I saw were Bin Laden videos, never claiming responsibility, and always a different size Bin Laden. Very faky CIA bs.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Osama meeting with the Hijackers is on my channel page.
Put out by Al Shahab, the PR wing of Al Queda, on Al Jazeera.
It was never in the hands of the US gov, so you have a problem.
The Official Announcement was in 2004, and it's on OBL's wiki page.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Is Al Queda a roque CIA sponsered group that was supposed to fight against Russia? Are these the same Wahibi fighters Bin Saud used to found Saudi Arabia. Are they not some form of merchaneries who fight for the highest payer?
Is invading a different country and not catching the perpetrators in the right country a sign of unknown geopolitcal visions. Doesn't it show your civilian logic is flawed? That you miss info about the motive...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
More conspiracy Bullshit?
What is the Conspiracy you DON'T believe in?
My civilian logic is fine.
I can follow even when the arab jihadists have been
attacking the US since 1968, which you can't.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
You mean when Jihadist were defending their land and resources. They have been fighting the british before the Americans. But I have read the history of the creation of Saudi Arabia. In it the Whahibi religious fighters are used to spread fear and dominance of big pieces of arab land in order to bring them under one ruler. The Wahibis are a sect of extremely religious fighters that actualy fight for money. Al Quada seems to me to be the same group. No conspiracy, just history.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
No, I mean when the UN GAVE the arabs their countries
at the same time they established ISRAEL.
Because the whole area used to be the Ottoman
Empire, remember? The Brits used to administrate
it, first for the League of Nations, then for the UN.
Just history, right?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I just want to illustrate that your vision of international affairs is much more secretive and less democratic than you seem to acknowledge. Decisions are made on high levels and we only read the spinned version of it. There is little to no transparency as to why America or the British fight in other countries. And if there is some explenation it is always for a good humanitarian reason. Not for greed or self interest. That is how it works, propaganda an lies.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
What a load of hogwash, and again, you are showing your
conspiracy nutjob tendencies, in the form of restricted sources.
Virtually every country, and SPECIALLY the US, distributes
a "Why we fight" video, and a set of speeches concerning
any military action, or war. IF you haven't seen them, it's
because you are not looking for them with the same
fervor as conspiracy books, huh?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I gave you the name just to show you it was not a conspiracy book.
"Why we fight", I just quickly scanned youtube. I saw some old black and white stuff, of ww2. I saw some bombs drop, some words like freedom and the statue of liberty and stuff about dictators.
That of course is not why you fight. I am sure a lot of soldiers fight for that type of 'good side' reason. But it is just the same propaganda as any country makes. The decision to wage war is based on greed or self defence.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
You are as ignorant as your anti-jew views demonstrate.
The decision to wage war is based on a HUGE collaboration
between all branches of government. Here in the US, it took
THREE years, in the UK, it took TWO years, and each country
that joined the Coalition took just as long.
There was no rush to war.
After Pearl Harbor, we declared war the NEXT DAY.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Whether you care to admit it or not, the US is the ONLY
positive influence on world affairs. Russia and most of
Europe only reacts to what we do.
WE change the world, and you have to catch up,
or be left as a soccer thug without a job,
waving the radical flag, then begging for a beer.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I am not anti jewish, but I do blame them for the murderous right wing policies towards palestine and the whole region.
The collaboration you are talking about could better be called, bribing en coercion. There was absolutly no way Bush would not go to war. All the demonstrations, the UN en the Atomic Energy Agency could not change their minds.
The US is not always so positive. Their pro privatisation, greed for oil and anti socialist views have killed and made millions suffer.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Socialism? Good Lord who wants that tired old beast?
You do remember the millions that died there, the
destruction of eastern europe, the Gulag, the east
german police state, the secret police in Bulgaria
and Romania. No wonder you are so misguided.
What are you going to propose next, Voodoo?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Merlin please. It is all propaganda. The kapitalist system will also be brutal when lead by right wing dictator.
I have no fear or problems with socialism. I can even believe in a sort of democratic kapitalistic socialism. It is what we have here in europe. The really needy and badd off people can get helth insurance and some little money. It is the civilised thing to do. Not every socialistic idea has to be killed. Your country is radically kapitalistic and is almost killing itself
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
LOL, only white trash could dredge up this dinosaur.
The Kapitalist system is the only system to make
farmers / peasants rich, and it drives the world
you live in. YOU don't even give to charity, but every
institution you hate does. They have a receipt. do you?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I cannot say that when the Dutch ruled half the world we did not do very dark things, like your country. And the British also know how to wage wars towards less strong and poorer people. But the US is definitely not an exception.
You fight wars because your country wants a resource from a country but the countries leader does not want to privatise or sell out and tries to protect his people, or his own bank account.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I want to point out, that Bush wanted to go to the Moon, not
Iraq and Afghanistan. When the arab Jihadists attacked,
that was HIS dream going down the tube also.
He had to drag the economy back from over a MILLION
people unemployed by the 9/11 attacks, and he did it in
three months. Let's face it, socialism hasn't given the
world ONE country to brag about, and it stinks.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Ok well. Now I know why you think 911 is never a conspircay. You can only blame other countrie because you believe all the propaganda of your army and country. Well, thank god we have less of it, so I really do not know what it is like, but c'mon. It is impossoble that your country is the only country were no bad leaders rule. And the whole world can see the coruption in your country. The whole economic collapse is because of coruption. Privatisation can bring unwanted power.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I live in the US, you broken down git.
Within walking distance are at least THREE refugee
communities that would String you UP for your socialist
dreams, and I would help. Unlike Britain, we get every
refugee who ran thru the wire at Berlin, or came out
of the deathcamps in Vietnam. They are HERE, and
unlike most americans, I go visit them.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Why be against socialism. Socialism can mean labour rights, health care, free public transport, free education, for all. You should be against dictators, not socialism in general. Eastern europe and the sovjet union was not bad and destroyed because of communism. It was bad because of dictatorship and destroyed because western europe and a bit the US were financialy smarter and financially broke the Sovjets, probably from within with friend like Gorby and Jeltsin.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
It even says so in your constitution. The whole damn thing is written to ward of unelected power. But some of your industries have a firm grip on politics. A lot of advisers and senators work just to promote the company or investment group they belong to. They steer decision towards less rights for people and more freedom for private companies or theirs specifically. This is why the oil rig was destroyed. Just kill your tv for a while and buy a good book....
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
I mean, look at the effect YOUR politics has had on
what USED to be great britain?
Your UK economy, once equal to the US, now sits at
No. 6, and Communist China is now more capitalist
than you, with a bigger economy, and probably more
millionaires. You on the other hand, now sit mired
in the largest PUBLIC DOLE system on earth.
Congrats.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
I am from Holland, not the UK/Britain. We have a long history of being kapitalistic. We even invented shareholdership. Without us you people would not have wall street. But our countries in Europe have it overall better than yours. We do not put the most people in jail of the wordl, we do not kick people out of their houses and leave them rot on the street and we try to have an education system that actually teaches something. Maybe visit europe once....
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Since the privitasiation of our trains they do not run on time. Since the privatasation of our health insurance we pay triple the amount. This list can go on and on. America and Britain have pushed the whole world towards privatisation and for me it only means that industries can be bought by Americans and make life more expensive for us. Some things should be run publicly, not privatised. Like the basics: health, transport, education and so on. It is what everybody needs...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
LOL, the weakling of europe? You elected 2 conservative
governments during the 1980s, until you discovered you
could fund your welfare state with North Sea Oil.
Too bad.
It's made you indolent and corrupt.
No wonder you are committing racial suicide as a nation.
Tell me this, would your system survive without that oil?
See if your education system teaches you that.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Look, because your kapitlastic banking coruption at the fed and meryl lynch and others we have lost more money then the so called unpayable friendly social system we have. Kapitalism or socialism are not the things that make it break, corruption and dictatorship are...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
You might go tell that to the Russians, Poles, Hungarians,
East germans, Czechs, Bulgarians, Rumanians, what's
left of Yugoslavia, Cambodia, China, and Vietnam.
They abandoned socialism long ago.
It made them poor.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
No,it just means the US and Europe have played the world hegemony game better and promoted and forced their kapitalistic system through IMF and WorldBank on others. We just have to wait and see how long it takes before the system collapse. The current crisis is a good example of the probably failure of the system in the long run. Kapitalism also does not address the gap between rich and poor. Kapitalism can bring the war of the classes. Where the rich have to fight the poor once more
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Kapitalism has to be regulated. In America you are beaten to death with propaganda that tells you that government cannot be trusted and you need more freedom. But what they do is remove restrictions government places on industry, so the companies get more freedom. Not the people. And that is very dangerous. I am more afraid of monopolistic dictatorial companies that have unelected leaders than my government, who I can elect....
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Ever hear of Frederich Engals?
He was like you, a child of the priveleged who fancied himself
a revolutionary. His father was an industrialist who doted on
his child and produced a back stabbing man who hated his
father. Spare the rod, spoil the child, personified.
Like Karl Marx, he parroted the socialist nonsense.
But, he never gave up his father's paycheck.
People like you never do.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
So you have brochures about geopolitical dark operations and you have brochures about the excesses of capitalism in highschool. But when you get older, you go back to kindergarten view of America and their enterprise model? You believe whatever makes you not feel bad, is that it? Well, for a citizen of a country which builds the most weapons in the world and jails the most people in the world you are doing a good job of staying positive...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Sure we do, we just aren't stupid enough to believe them
past 13. That seems to be the end of your development.
And your nation's.
The US builds the most weapons in the world, because
we protect weakling Dutch who should be enslaved by
arab white slavers, like the 1500s.
I would vote to let you be enslaved, and whipped.
Maybe then you would defend the west.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Ok, you are hopeless. Keep shouting USA USA. Sell your weapons so the world keeps killing itself and stay afraid and feel superiour to all other countries. It is probably what you do best. But do not expect we have the same love you feel for your country. Being taken over by Americans or the Nazi's, it doesn't matter to me, both would give me my television, make me feel good about them while waging war on many many other people for some shitty resource.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Same to you. In less than 40 years, you have taken your
nation from a legitimate country, with a huge mercantile
past, to a bankrupt country without North Sea Oil.
Congratulations.
Frankly, I would be more worried about the US, if your
oppinion of us were better. We do NOT want to be
like you in any way. Now die off and go away.
Extinction is your nation's future.
Thanks to people like you.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
Maybe try to have a more balanced opinion about your own country and about other countries on this planet. I would not have to attack you and your country so much if you already know about its shortcomings. And a lot of other countries are not so bad as you seem to think. Industrialisation and technological advancements bring wealth to this world. Not capitalism or our western arrogance.
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
Maybe try to understand that the US doesn't have to have
a balanced oppinion of ourselves. You do that for us,
like any picayune also-ran.
I have been all over europe, and I did NOT admire it at all.
Holland has some of the filthiest street whores on the
planet, but every one thinks they are a model.
Typical dutch, eh?
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
We hardly have any street-hookers because prostitution is legal in our country and therefore prostitutes have labour rights and decent working conditions. Since we also use our bikes on our thousands of miles of bike lanes, and we don't especially eat American junk food, our street-hookers probably look better than you. So the next time you travel thousands of miles to see ugly street-hookers, try looking at your mommy first....
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5 Don't insult the Dutch. They are among our closest allies. Good people, generous, friendly and truthful. If you hang around where street whores hang out, it's no wonder you got the wrong impression. They suffered greatly during WWII and are among the only Europeans that never forgot what the Americans and the British did for them. They honor our dead with immaculate cemeteries and local people tend to graves not in cemeteries. Dank u.
ExistentialNihilist 1 year ago
@ExistentialNihilist
The Dutch DID NOT fortify their borders before TWO World
Wars, even though at one point the French offered to help
pay for it. That allowed German Armies to drive down nice
wide roads, around French fortifications, TWICE, thru the
low countries. Do you know how German General Von
Rundstedt reconnoitered the enemy prior to WW2?
He took a vacation in denmark.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@Merlin5x5
IN the first world war they flooded their borders so the Germans couldnt cross.
Their tanks etc couldt cross the water.
The second world war they did the same thing, but it didnt help the Germans used paratroopers.
42turk42 1 year ago
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@42turk42 ur exactley wat i wanted to see as a answer! :D thank you.
skullkid960 1 year ago
@bbkingdom
The book is called 'The Dessert King' written by David Howarth. It shows the dealings Ibn Saud had with the British and with the Wahibis and others while conquesting for the creation of Saudi Arabia. All kinds of stuff that was not in British papers at the time I guess, because now we also don't read about geopolitical and colonial protectorate stuff in the papers...
bbkingdom 1 year ago
@ishredu
Who's against a real and independent investigation of the 9/11 attacks?
There have been 80+ of them since 2001, half of them by FOREIGN engineering organizations. Send me an email, I'll send you the current list.
ALL of which backup, and come to the same conclusions of NIST.
On the other hand, you have a TRUTHER lab report that had to pay $600 to be published in an egyptian based journal, for which the engineering editor resigned in protest.
Congratulations again.
Merlin5x5 1 year ago
@bg1379 People believed the Earth was flat until they explored it? Yeah, thats how it happened. Oh, and the moon was made out of cheese until someone tried a piece. Wait wait, nothing ever fell until an apple did.
Being ignorant and following the masses does not make one rational.
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