Michelle Bachmann is a lying sack of shit (in case you didn't already know)

[moibubushi]

take your clothes off

[WhiteStar11111]

All Planned Parenthoods should be closed.

Abortion should be illegal.

[itinkuno]

@WhiteStar11111 ummm, or maybe just the ONE that provides abortion??? You. FUCKING. Moron. I JUST told you in the video that the overwhelming majority of the Planned Parenthood clinics in in Minnesota DO NOT do abortions. You poor ignorant imbecile. You are so deluded that you weren't even willing to watch the fucking video. Wow.

[Madfoot713]

"fuck you michele bachmann"

only part i understood and i agree

[Eceoes]

Anyway it was awesome how you exposed Bachmann's dishonesty. Again Bachmann is the type of conservative who does seem intimidating to debate with unlike other Republicans.

[itinkuno]

@Eceoes Yeah . . . she's pretty dumb. She pwns herself when she talks.

[Eceoes]

Ok this will sound pathetic and you all can call me a wuss but I think that Bachmann is really scary and intimidating looking. It seems she has this Vladimir Putin expression, this really shady and threatening look. It seems that she can belittle anyone effortlessly and she is the type of conservative that I would be scared to be in a debate with.

[halflifeproductionz]

batty bachman is insane!!

[curbsideprophetlz]

Huh. I'm pretty sure that anyone who both knows who Michelle Bachmann is and isn't a fringe lunatic already knows that she is a prolific liar. But the vast majority of United States citizens do not know who she is.

Pretty sure the vast majority of citizens would be damn inaccurate if you asked them to name the vice president, though.

[grendelrob244]

STAND BY PLANNED PARENTHOOD for a stronger America!

[spikevalentine13]

US government has way too much say in people's everyday life. Makes you long for the ideal that the government IS the people.

[LordNapalm]

Where do you work right now that allows you to watch/make youtube videos?

So jealous :P

[LicoriceLain]

@LordNapalm She doesn't make videos excessively. :P

[itinkuno]

@LordNapalm It's my weekend job. It's at a luggage store, so if it's not Saturday, I don't get a ton of traffic. There are only 3 employees and the owner lets us play on our computers.

[itinkuno]

@itinkuno Also, unless it's Saturday, there's only ever 1 person on staff. It would get very boring without a book or the internet.

[LordNapalm]

@itinkuno Well.. like I said. I'm jealous :P

Actually.. I'm just jealous of having a job right now. heh

[itinkuno]

@LordNapalm awe, hang in there. 

[cannedkitty]

Also, good point on the vid. Bachmann et al are increasingly disconnected from reality. It's scary that this is an elected official.

[cannedkitty]

Newsflash: Men DO have a choice in wanting or not wanting a pregnancy: It's called keeping your fucking dick in your pants.

[albatross1977]

@cannedkitty isnt that what the anti abortion people say to women? "You do have a choice: its called keep your fucking legs closed!"

[cannedkitty]

@albatross1977 Women have an escape hatch. It's called abortion.

[albatross1977]

@cannedkitty Yeah my neighbors grow corn too. You still face palmed yourself.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@cannedkitty  So couldn't we flip that around and say "women do have a choice - its called keeping your panties on"

[LicoriceLain]

@MoneyIsSilver I would stay away from the "keeping the panties on" comments if I were you. You are starting to come off as a disgruntled sexist. No, if you knock a woman up with no effort to establish that is what you want ahead of time to see if she can handle going through pregnancy at the time, you do not have a say. Period. If you cannot understand how that is fair, you need to look deeper than your own perspective.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@LicoriceLain I would stay away from issuing a double standard and then telling others they can't point it out if I were you - you come off as being sexist.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@LicoriceLain also, I'm a 35yo man, and you're 19yo girl..you're a little young to be telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing. I think its supposed to be the other way around. Like, you SHOULD be keeping your panties on because 100% of girls your age make poor decisions about what kind of guys to sleep and because of that there are millions of single moms with fatherless children that collectively are burdening society to collapse.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@LicoriceLain Secondly, you are making the usual mistake of putting all the blame on man while taking no responsibility yourself - that is not something to take pride in. Be a woman, and take responsibility for yourself. You can not tell a man that he has responsibilities and no rights, while simultaneously absolving women of any responsibilities and giving her all the rights. If a woman can decide to kill a man's baby, then it isn't his and its not his responsibility.

[curbsideprophetlz]

@MoneyIsSilver So, you think that it's *single mothers* bringing society down? Pretty insane theory you got there. Is it a conspiracy?

The good money is on economic collapse from supply-side economic deregulation.

And... 100%? Where do you even GET these numbers, you SAVANT you!? Can't divulge your sources, I am sure.

Wait, is this connected to the secret gender war some other youtube commenter was telling me about the other day? Or perhaps the Kennedy assassination? Bigfoot?

[MoneyIsSilver]

@curbsideprophetlz Do you always just jump in on other peoples conversations with no real information of your own?

[curbsideprophetlz]

@MoneyIsSilver Welcome to the internet, that happens here. Try not to take things people say too seriously, or you'll find yourself entrenched in forgettable and meaningless conversations in the youtube comments of some video.

[Yovo35]

"Fuck you, Michelle Bachmann." Well said. ;)

[MoneyIsSilver]

I used to be "pro choice", but it was for the wrong reasons. It shouldn't be called pro-choice though because the dad has no choice in the matter.

[smaakjeks]

@MoneyIsSilver

That is a problem; that men don't have a say in whether or not their child-to-be will be born. However, the man's wish can't take priority over the woman's. She's the one who's pregnant, not the man. It's the woman's choice. So, "pro-choice" is indeed an apt name for the position.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@smaakjeks Oh, I see...so since its her body, its her right to do whatever she wants with whats inside it..So the male response should be, "My wallet, my choice", when it comes to child support money?? After all, its his money. Shouldn't he have a "choice"?

Why should the man get told he has to take responsibility, while a woman gets a "choice"?

[smaakjeks]

@MoneyIsSilver

"Oh, I see...so since its her body, its her right to do whatever she wants with whats inside it."

Yes, until an arbitrary point in the pregnancy when the fetus is determined to be too independent an organism for abortion to be legal. I say arbitrary since pregnancy is a gradual process and has no clear dividing lines between embryo and person.

"So the male response should be, "My wallet, my choice", when it comes to child support money?"

Your main issue is monetary concern?

[MoneyIsSilver]

@smaakjeks Let's be honest here...hardly any abortions are about the health safety of the mother...I'd say 99.9999% are about the mother avoiding the responsibility that comes with being a parent. So why can the mother avoid responsibility and not the father?

[smaakjeks]

@MoneyIsSilver

"I'd say 99.9999% are about the mother avoiding the responsibility that comes with being a parent."

Stats are more impressive when you're not pulling them out of your ass. Got any invented stats on how often the man wants her baby when she doesn't? My ass says it's very few, how about yours?

"why can the mother avoid responsibility and not the father?"

Again, the alternative is immoral. You can't honestly say it'd be better to force the woman to go through with the pregnancy.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@smaakjeks Your logic makes no sense. So its immoral for a guy to avoid responsibility, but when a woman does its "her choice"? Do you honestly not see the double standard?

[smaakjeks]

@MoneyIsSilver

"Your logic makes no sense. So its immoral for a guy to avoid responsibility, but when a woman does its "her choice"? Do you honestly not see the double standard?"

Just what is it you have a problem with?

A) That the man can't force the woman to complete pregnancy against her will

B) That the man is partly responsible for the baby when it's born

[smaakjeks]

@MoneyIsSilver

"Why should the man get told he has to take responsibility, while a woman gets a "choice"?"

Because if the child is born, he is partly responsible for its existence, along with the woman. The man can of course make his case and perhaps convince the woman to allow the pregnancy to continue, but pregnancy is arduous and sometimes dangerous. That's why she must agree to go through it with her own free will. The alternative is immoral.

[itinkuno]

@MoneyIsSilver so what are you saying? semantics is the most important part to you?

[MoneyIsSilver]

@itinkuno I'm saying that if you make it clear enough to men that they have no reproductive rights (which is obvious but a lot of men still don't get it), then you will really screw women as a whole since men will switch from taking a protective provider role towards women to a competitive and indifferent attitude towards women.

[MoneyIsSilver]

@MoneyIsSilver Do you really think a guy is ok with a girl killing a baby that he wants?

[MoneyIsSilver]

Let's be honest here...hardly any abortions are about the health safety of the mother...I'd say 99.9999% are about the mother avoiding the responsibility that comes with being a parent. So why can the mother avoid responsibility and not the father?

[albatross1977]

@MoneyIsSilver You're talking about a seperate issue. You can argue that responsibility shouldn't be forced on the father since he doesn't have any choice in the matter, but itinkuno's point of view concerns abortion being safe and legal, not who should raise the child or pay child support.

[itinkuno]

@MoneyIsSilver Yup, you're totally right. Flawless logic backed up by compelling amounts of evidence.

You know the video wasn't actually on the abortion debate, right?

[MoneyIsSilver]

@itinkuno yeah, I'm just some dummy

[itinkuno]

@MoneyIsSilver okay, here's my two cents:

it's kind of unfair that men don't (legally) get a say (i hope you're aware that more often then not, it's a mutual decision {i did patient counseling, and we were directed to ask about the father, if he knows, how he feels, etc, and the father was allowed to be a part of the counseling process}). but it's also unfair that male people can't get pregnant, don't carry the baby and don't give birth. that's life. life is unfair. deal with it.