When VFX starts rambling on about infinity, man, I get sooo boreddd. If I were responding to his questions, I would have skipped the second one for that reason.
Because "eternal" is a time-based concept. Time existing for eternity is like a ruler existing throughout it's length, even though it too has a beginning and end. It's a bit of a semantics argument.
if i could punch my monitor and PCS could feel it......iwould go through like, 10-16 monitors daily......i'm in a class for this...... :) .......and faliling...... :)
haha lincoln's not designed u see VFX when a mummy and a daddy love each other very much... *fast forward 9months* and the person is made. tada! thats my answer
Can anyone explain to me why the universe and time cannot be infinite? Like a piece of string with the ends fused together, a self-contained cycle? What if I took the doorstop and wrapped it around into a loop?
The idea is that if time were infinite, it would not be a sequence of events. There is no beginning in a loop, or end, and so there wouldn't be a first moment, a second moment on and on until the end. The consequence would be that if time was not sequential, we would not have been lived up until the present. But really, no one REALLY knows the nature of an infinite. The only "experts" we have on the subject are theoretic mathmeticians.
If humans are so perfect and fine-tuned and designed why an appendix? wisdom teeth? Cancerous growths? genetic abnormalities? cerebal palsey? the human tailbone/cocyx?...
I love how he simply ASSERTS that fine tuning and "design" are not likely without a designer.
Setting aside the fact that such "fine tuning" leads to a universe that is about 99.999999% inhospitable toward life and that we can only tell if something is designed because it DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE NATURAL (thus making it literally impossible to say that nothing is designed if nature itself is designed), he never supports this premise with reasoning, and thus his argument quickly falls apart.
He's shooting an arrow into a blank wall, then drawing a bull's-eye around the arrow AFTER the fact and then saying "Wow! That HAD to be a deliberate shot!"
The worst thing is that most creationists, like PCS, compare inanimate objects to living organisms and try to apply evolution. They refuse to acknowledge that evolution can only work on organisms that reproduce.
That simple sentence shreds their entire argument, and they won't even admit it.
Let's count the number of times on youtube VFX has it pointed out to him all the glaring design screwups in the human body. and the number of times he ignores it.
Or is this the sort of calculation reserved for only the most powerful supercomputers?
Well, I do find it amusing that someone who looks so young can see through VFX's bull.
A tip though, I'm sure you typed up a script and read it off your computer, but I would recommend looking into the camera more, as well as trying to sound more natural, instead of like you're reading out loud in a class room.
Even clouds can take the shape of things we are familiar with through natural phenomenon.
It would be impossible for a hotel with an infinite amount of rooms to become full.
I believe matter exists infinitely. It cannot be destroyed and it cannot be created, although it can be divided an infinite amount of times. I also believe there is no limit on density.
So you cannot have an infinite number of finite things, because no thing is finite.
If teeth are designed then why do they decay so easily? Very bad design? Or maybe this is just one more way the loving god torments people for its own amusement. Wonder what vfx teeth would look like without modern dentistry, a product of science afaik.
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Kid you are a little kid with no education. For good get an education so you are not stupid enough to think a man came from a monkey. 1 star for you bias.
Evolution nor anyone else says 'man came from a monkey' It's intellectual misfits like yourself invented this claim and spread it around as if that is what they said. Straw man for your thoughts?
DUDE speak slower and concentrate a little on the pronouncing of the words because people who are not native english speakers like me find it hard to understand you.
"i think i'm pretty good looking" :) so does that homo that bought you that new high def dv camera (which was in fact was created thanks to methodological naturalism) =) vfx looks like a lot of closet case boys that i knew when i was younger
I get so sick of all these venomfangx videos. He has no understanding of physics beyond simple common knowledge newtonian mechanics, which are simple to describe with trigonometric functions and algebraic formulas. I have studied calculus based, and differential based physics which explains in detail the structure of the universe. Also at my level of physics it takes years not hours, days or months to understand. I would love to give shawn 1 question from DFQ and have him explain every step.
Theta, I love the content of your videos, and I know there's a time limit... but please please please make an effort to speak slower and address the camera. Not doing this makes them a little hard to watch.
Even if it were granted that the universe WAS designed by a "designer". it does NOT prove that the "designer" is the Christian god to which PCS is subscribed...
Precisely, for use even to of believed in God in the first place we had to design his we'll being, the way christians believe in God isn't actually what this apparent god told him he was like.
Back in those times of dumber understanding people needed something positive to guide them.
Because of modern day discoveries such as galxies etc. Creationists and what not have been trying to give a religious explanation to them to convert more people back to their religion.
"Actual infinities cannot exist", so does this count as a proof against God, a supposedly "actual infinite"? I'm sorry, I don't know if it's already been said, I just couldn't help...
Hm. I guess you interpreted my confusion a different (and neat) way. My problem was his use of both the word "actual" and "exist". When the phrase "actual infinities" is uttered, what is implied is the existence of infinities. He should have said: "Infinities cannot exist", not "ACTUAL infinities cannot exist." Actualities=existing-things. Adding the word "actual" didn't add anything to what he wanted to say.
I know what you're saying, it's like those people who despite not understanding anything about something( Sylvia Browne...) will just throw out words that seem like they mean something in context. I was just posting an idea that I got reading your post, as something about it triggered it, and as I said "I just couldn't help it...."
The reason we can infer design from looking at Mt. Rushmore is that it looks like human beings, namely, four U.S. Presidents. We could not look at humans themselves and infer they were designed, because humans could have looked like anything. It's the same thing with VFX's plasticine earth. We can conclude that the model earth is designed because it looks like the real earth. The real earth, however, didn't have to look like anything in particular.
There is nothing special about the shape of the earth's continents and oceans. If we saw VFX's model earth without knowing what the real earth looked like, we would just think it was a ball with blotches of green and blue paint.
Mt. Rushmore looks like human faces because it was designed to resemble them. Human faces look like human faces because humans inherit genes from their parents, who are also human.
"Mt. Rushmore looks like human faces because it was designed to resemble them." I'd actually like to add that even if you take this and add in some things which weren't designed to look like human faces( Jesus appearing on tortillas?) we're just simply wired to see patterns and faces, we're especially great at seeing faces, so even where no design is present, we will see design in it, especially if you're going into a situation looking for design.
What about theories of hyperspace and ideas involving (multiple) universes contained within an encompassing superstructure? By its nature this superstructure would be outside of the universe and the spatial/temporal laws therein.
VFX is an idiot, we all know that. Is it a good idea to airtime? It just fuels his popularity. Do we need to talk about him? Its better to just ignore him and hope fades away over time.
Hardly, there are far too many Christians, myself included, who do not at least try to spread what we percieve to be the Truth, Good News, Gospel etc.
While I often do not agree with VFX's personal interpretations, attitudes, approaches, nay, even beliefs, I admire his commitment and determination, qualities which are severely lacking in many people, theist, deist and atheist alike.
If we have anything to be ashamed of, it is our own inactivity, apathy and past atrocities (see 'Crusade').
design designing desinging designed design, does he know another word?
FusionNinjin 2 years ago
God get a haircut dude. When you look like that it kinda hurts your argument. Sry
ActivistOne472 2 years ago
there is not such thng as design its random
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
When VFX starts rambling on about infinity, man, I get sooo boreddd. If I were responding to his questions, I would have skipped the second one for that reason.
Boy192 2 years ago
MT. Rushmore looks designed but the again so did the old man in the mountain
DonHoraldo 2 years ago
My answer to design argument is:
If A that happened by chance acts in a way that produces anything - everything that is produced by A also happened by chance.
Unknnnnn 2 years ago
I think i know what you ment by it. But how can time be eternal if theres a beginning and an end?
zianclone234500 2 years ago
Because "eternal" is a time-based concept. Time existing for eternity is like a ruler existing throughout it's length, even though it too has a beginning and end. It's a bit of a semantics argument.
ThetaOmega 2 years ago
That´s what I thought. Although I usually think of eternal, as no beginning, or no end.
zianclone234500 2 years ago
if i could punch my monitor and PCS could feel it......iwould go through like, 10-16 monitors daily......i'm in a class for this...... :) .......and faliling...... :)
quagmire1032 2 years ago
Argument from design has been shot down so many times I can't believe people still try to fly it.
Echelon030 2 years ago
You sound much better when you are not reading. You need to let go of the notes. Good stuff though!
TheCampbell 2 years ago 2
haha lincoln's not designed u see VFX when a mummy and a daddy love each other very much... *fast forward 9months* and the person is made. tada! thats my answer
WTFisJamieUp2 2 years ago 3
Wow, VFX is a complete moron. Well done arguing, very articulate.
TheLegendTomWing 2 years ago 2
So he's saying someone chiselled Lincolns face? Weird.
Is he also saying those people with massive tumors on their face are designed that way?
fing3rbang 2 years ago
venomFangx is such a coward! Great to see your standing up to him!
inmendhamOwnsU 2 years ago
You never got VFX's attention.
AbartsWorld 2 years ago
VFX has heard of Hilbert's Hotel? Wonders will never cease.
Gorteenminogue 2 years ago
Can anyone explain to me why the universe and time cannot be infinite? Like a piece of string with the ends fused together, a self-contained cycle? What if I took the doorstop and wrapped it around into a loop?
fortress7373 2 years ago
The idea is that if time were infinite, it would not be a sequence of events. There is no beginning in a loop, or end, and so there wouldn't be a first moment, a second moment on and on until the end. The consequence would be that if time was not sequential, we would not have been lived up until the present. But really, no one REALLY knows the nature of an infinite. The only "experts" we have on the subject are theoretic mathmeticians.
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nostradamus2001 2 years ago
Simple retort to his initial ramble:
If humans are so perfect and fine-tuned and designed why an appendix? wisdom teeth? Cancerous growths? genetic abnormalities? cerebal palsey? the human tailbone/cocyx?...
Examples of poor 'design' could go on and on....
truekiwijoker 2 years ago 2
Hang on. VFX claims infinity cannot extist but suggests god is eternal. Yet again he makes a fool of himself.
pilgrimpater 2 years ago 3
Barf on all counts.
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fightforfair 2 years ago
Bravo, Bravo and well said.
Biogirl52 2 years ago
I can see your simpsons poster in the back.
themanwhoknew 2 years ago
I love how he simply ASSERTS that fine tuning and "design" are not likely without a designer.
Setting aside the fact that such "fine tuning" leads to a universe that is about 99.999999% inhospitable toward life and that we can only tell if something is designed because it DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE NATURAL (thus making it literally impossible to say that nothing is designed if nature itself is designed), he never supports this premise with reasoning, and thus his argument quickly falls apart.
FreePlay 2 years ago
His constant lip smacking is completely disgusting and a lazy habit... poor parental care.
messiahjonz 2 years ago
VFX has a designed ideology.
FreeBDeshResponds 2 years ago
VFX: "fine tuning and design"
He's shooting an arrow into a blank wall, then drawing a bull's-eye around the arrow AFTER the fact and then saying "Wow! That HAD to be a deliberate shot!"
EndCredulity 2 years ago
hey look, someone making videos who uses reason!
breath of fresh air
shinkster12 2 years ago
After watching even a snippet of VFX's videos, I've found that I'm really sick and tired of the word "therefore".
Noben 2 years ago 2
... And none of it makes sense! He's the universally biggest waste of grammar i've ever seen.
anon32016 2 years ago
VFX talks sh*te!
veganboi 2 years ago
The worst thing is that most creationists, like PCS, compare inanimate objects to living organisms and try to apply evolution. They refuse to acknowledge that evolution can only work on organisms that reproduce.
That simple sentence shreds their entire argument, and they won't even admit it.
It gets tiresome.
jmthetank 2 years ago
He called the universe a pre-made design. Shoot me now.
xonoma 2 years ago
Let's count the number of times on youtube VFX has it pointed out to him all the glaring design screwups in the human body. and the number of times he ignores it.
Or is this the sort of calculation reserved for only the most powerful supercomputers?
dutchroll 2 years ago
ThetaOmega says VenomFangX says that the whole universe is the design and since that is the case then there mus
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fgh456dfgf 2 years ago
Well, I do find it amusing that someone who looks so young can see through VFX's bull.
A tip though, I'm sure you typed up a script and read it off your computer, but I would recommend looking into the camera more, as well as trying to sound more natural, instead of like you're reading out loud in a class room.
Good rebuttal though.
Saber0003 2 years ago
Glad to see you making videos again.
Even clouds can take the shape of things we are familiar with through natural phenomenon.
It would be impossible for a hotel with an infinite amount of rooms to become full.
I believe matter exists infinitely. It cannot be destroyed and it cannot be created, although it can be divided an infinite amount of times. I also believe there is no limit on density.
So you cannot have an infinite number of finite things, because no thing is finite.
Leroku 2 years ago
yeas their is a designer nature evolution environment.
tomdamho 2 years ago
One of these days I am going to have the verbal skills of a Britt!
JaguarJ0nes 2 years ago
Theta - another great video.
I agree with your comment about theamazing atheist's response.
And sadly it provides another opportunity for pcs to rant for 10 minutes - it's painful.
As ever, r
dprjones 2 years ago
If teeth are designed then why do they decay so easily? Very bad design? Or maybe this is just one more way the loving god torments people for its own amusement. Wonder what vfx teeth would look like without modern dentistry, a product of science afaik.
prodigyat9 2 years ago 4
Agreed dentists disprove the design argument.
mattblackcat 2 years ago
A painting is the REAL Abe Lincoln. LOL
BEANMANOR 2 years ago 2
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Kid you are a little kid with no education. For good get an education so you are not stupid enough to think a man came from a monkey. 1 star for you bias.
theanswersofnwo 2 years ago
He's at university right now, and Evolution is not "A Man came from a monkey".
Thumbs down for your blatant ignorance.
WeedGreenPowerRanger 2 years ago 2
Do you have any actual rational argument to offer?
Dimensiom 2 years ago
This is the worst comment I have ever had the displeasure of reading.
stefanarak 2 years ago
theanswersofnwo - Let's look at your profile.
Age: 20
Wow, you must be a wise elder.
Evolution nor anyone else says 'man came from a monkey' It's intellectual misfits like yourself invented this claim and spread it around as if that is what they said. Straw man for your thoughts?
themanwhoknew 2 years ago
DUDE speak slower and concentrate a little on the pronouncing of the words because people who are not native english speakers like me find it hard to understand you.
grotillum 2 years ago
"i think i'm pretty good looking" :) so does that homo that bought you that new high def dv camera (which was in fact was created thanks to methodological naturalism) =) vfx looks like a lot of closet case boys that i knew when i was younger
Neeboopsh 2 years ago
I get so sick of all these venomfangx videos. He has no understanding of physics beyond simple common knowledge newtonian mechanics, which are simple to describe with trigonometric functions and algebraic formulas. I have studied calculus based, and differential based physics which explains in detail the structure of the universe. Also at my level of physics it takes years not hours, days or months to understand. I would love to give shawn 1 question from DFQ and have him explain every step.
funChick84 2 years ago
Ah, the arrogance of thinking this universe is designed for us!
He has been told why these arguments are weak and flawed over and over again. He just never learns.
Notice the similarities in Thunderf00t's "Why Do People Laugh At Creationists? (Part 27)" and "Debating a Creationists (Part 2)"?
JRChadwick 2 years ago
Well done.
That doorstop makes a perfect universe model.
jebus6kryst 2 years ago
I cant watch this shit
I just threw up from hearing his voice
Surathan 2 years ago
If hes good lookin'
Im a fucking sex god
Surathan 2 years ago
I completely despise his smug, condescending, contemptuous look he always has on his face.
It is truly beyond me how he can believe with such certainty that which cannot provide 1 small bit of evidence for its truth whatsoever.
phroz3n 2 years ago 2
VFX thinks he's good looking... humm...
Killua2001 2 years ago
An attractiveness he had going for him disappears when he opens his mouth.
HumanStrategy 2 years ago
Theta, I love the content of your videos, and I know there's a time limit... but please please please make an effort to speak slower and address the camera. Not doing this makes them a little hard to watch.
comface 2 years ago
Yeah he should just talk to the camera, not read his screen off a script :*(
ulktz 2 years ago
great work
ooolikujy 2 years ago 2
Even if it were granted that the universe WAS designed by a "designer". it does NOT prove that the "designer" is the Christian god to which PCS is subscribed...
SayYesToReason 2 years ago
Designed teeth...
LOL EVER HEARD OF BRACES!!!!!!!
all22787 2 years ago 5
Such a fud.
kff 2 years ago
He's conceited beyond measurable proportions. He *literally* thinks of himself as God.
NwZ2 2 years ago
Wtf, VenomFangX said that GALAXIES were "designed"? What does that make God then, a giant ninja?? XD
Scorpiochess 2 years ago 4
I am sure u pointed this out to PCS but as God appears to be designed then there is a designer who designed him, right?
TheSuicidalOptimist 2 years ago
Yes, the people who designed God are humans.
pointCOUNTERpoint01 2 years ago
Precisely, for use even to of believed in God in the first place we had to design his we'll being, the way christians believe in God isn't actually what this apparent god told him he was like.
Back in those times of dumber understanding people needed something positive to guide them.
Because of modern day discoveries such as galxies etc. Creationists and what not have been trying to give a religious explanation to them to convert more people back to their religion.
Science + Religon= FAIL!
PauloPelle14 2 years ago
man venom sure is whoring out his website.
alucard9692005 2 years ago
His first premise on #2 "Actual infinites cannot exist" sounds so strange. Did he really need to put in the word "actual"?
(btw, there's no way vfx will even be able to digest what you said. Good one!)
Rorty00 2 years ago
"Actual infinities cannot exist", so does this count as a proof against God, a supposedly "actual infinite"? I'm sorry, I don't know if it's already been said, I just couldn't help...
Cyrathil 2 years ago
Hm. I guess you interpreted my confusion a different (and neat) way. My problem was his use of both the word "actual" and "exist". When the phrase "actual infinities" is uttered, what is implied is the existence of infinities. He should have said: "Infinities cannot exist", not "ACTUAL infinities cannot exist." Actualities=existing-things. Adding the word "actual" didn't add anything to what he wanted to say.
Rorty00 2 years ago
I know what you're saying, it's like those people who despite not understanding anything about something( Sylvia Browne...) will just throw out words that seem like they mean something in context. I was just posting an idea that I got reading your post, as something about it triggered it, and as I said "I just couldn't help it...."
Cyrathil 2 years ago
How can ateism be "true"? it 's a LACK of belief, not a theory!
geffel 2 years ago 2
The reason we can infer design from looking at Mt. Rushmore is that it looks like human beings, namely, four U.S. Presidents. We could not look at humans themselves and infer they were designed, because humans could have looked like anything. It's the same thing with VFX's plasticine earth. We can conclude that the model earth is designed because it looks like the real earth. The real earth, however, didn't have to look like anything in particular.
SeenAndNotSeen 2 years ago 2
There is nothing special about the shape of the earth's continents and oceans. If we saw VFX's model earth without knowing what the real earth looked like, we would just think it was a ball with blotches of green and blue paint.
Mt. Rushmore looks like human faces because it was designed to resemble them. Human faces look like human faces because humans inherit genes from their parents, who are also human.
SeenAndNotSeen 2 years ago
"Mt. Rushmore looks like human faces because it was designed to resemble them." I'd actually like to add that even if you take this and add in some things which weren't designed to look like human faces( Jesus appearing on tortillas?) we're just simply wired to see patterns and faces, we're especially great at seeing faces, so even where no design is present, we will see design in it, especially if you're going into a situation looking for design.
Cyrathil 2 years ago
What about theories of hyperspace and ideas involving (multiple) universes contained within an encompassing superstructure? By its nature this superstructure would be outside of the universe and the spatial/temporal laws therein.
blackemerald 2 years ago
Venomfangx behave like he know everything... his facial expression is very cocky... he is a bad design
ogapadoga 2 years ago
you seem like what i think stephen fry was like as a kid.
DanC9189 2 years ago
QuestionScience is down at the mo(fo). The host seems to have deteriorated from a sluggish bore to a frozen wasteland. Looks like a move is in order.
mikefoz 2 years ago
VFX doesn't know anything about 11 dimensional supersymmetry ^_^
PinkProgram 2 years ago
How do you edit an .flv file?
marcluc1988 2 years ago
You use a program to convert it to a .avi or some other video file.
Do a google search for "flv to avi", you'll get >9000 hits.
SkepticalAtheist 2 years ago
You could convert it to a wma og avi? Just google ''FLV converter'' or somthing^^
TwilightAronXD 2 years ago
You probably have to convert it to a MPG or WMV to edit it. There is a good free converter online, called flvconverter.
AndroidAR 2 years ago
I only just notice VFX has really nice blow job lips. I think I'm going to become a taxi driver and offer him champaign.
rarrmonkey 2 years ago
Good video. Part 2 is on it's way I assume?
Dimbnd 2 years ago
VFX is an idiot, we all know that. Is it a good idea to airtime? It just fuels his popularity. Do we need to talk about him? Its better to just ignore him and hope fades away over time.
Adnaana 2 years ago
Just blur-out his web address.
Perrine234 2 years ago
Oh noes - VFX is well designed? He looks like Butt-Head's long lost twin. huhuhuh huhuh huh huhuhh huhuhh
ReeT0ric 2 years ago 2
VenomFagX reminds me a lot of Kirk Cameron. As intellectually void.
Mattrix0 2 years ago
i saw this on questionscience but i watched it anyway, nice responce!
anglaismoyen 2 years ago
i mean response.
anglaismoyen 2 years ago
good video
mortemdei 2 years ago
Seriusly christians should be ashamed over venomfangX
halabalo195 2 years ago 2
Hardly, there are far too many Christians, myself included, who do not at least try to spread what we percieve to be the Truth, Good News, Gospel etc.
While I often do not agree with VFX's personal interpretations, attitudes, approaches, nay, even beliefs, I admire his commitment and determination, qualities which are severely lacking in many people, theist, deist and atheist alike.
If we have anything to be ashamed of, it is our own inactivity, apathy and past atrocities (see 'Crusade').
blackemerald 2 years ago