Empire or Democracy: Are We Ready for the Fall?

[NiceGuy838111]

And they shut their eyes upon their rotten cities, and opened them to their blind gods and idols. Hither the Rome falls, dear Cicero, tis how it falls.

[ryangr7gisback]

thank you goerge w bush for all the good work you did you fuckin retard you should be ashamed to be american.

[committeesq]

I can't think of a time as a preteen or adult that America didn't seem like Rome, though not at it's VERY worst, though going rapidly in that direction.

China is in our future. We need to be better educated to deal with that future.

: sigh : Enjoy today while you know what you have.

[cbradley1391]

ok, now how do we STOP it?

[guitarthroat]

ALL empires in recorded history have possessed attributes that are similar and approximate to our current political/economic conditions. This has nothing to do with some nefarious, conspiratorial parallel to the Roman State, in any period. This is because human beings are motivated by greed and self interest governs most actions. The condition of economic affluence will put ANY civilization on this course of decline over time. It is a natural course of events and there is NO stopping it.

[guitarthroat]

There are some valid points in this. BUT, this is HIGHLY generalized and not necessarily accurate about the Roman state. There were several phases of the Roman state. The early republic, the Principate, east and west empire,tetrarchy, dominate, and the later Byzantine or eastern Roman empire once the west was gone. The Byzantines lasted a thousand years after the Western empire fell. To generalize it in such a fashion is too spurious and unscholarly to be an accurate analysis.

[mlaise]

Title should be: Empire or Republic: Are We Ready for the Fall?

We have, and were not designed, to be a democracy. Our founders hated the idea of democracy.

[rusty57]

Thirty years ago, I would have said "democracy;" now I think the fact that it is so hard to find voices warning us of encroaching fascism, that I just don't think the message is getting across to enough people.

There are too many tea party types who look at the growing power of corporations and call it "government out of control." If people don't even understand who's for and who are against them, the slide to fascism is inevitable.

[drewd1987]

we're already heading into fascism

[kruddykuffar]

The Athenian empire remained a democracy until otherwise forced by Sparta. There's no necessary cause of empire resulting in an effect to lose democracy.

Here's my take: The Pax Romana was real -- so is the Pax Americana. No strong nation will voluntarily sacrifice sovereignty for the sake of international peace, so the strongest must force them to.

The question isn't a choice between empire and democracy; it's a choice of either we make an empire, or else we accept a perpetual state of war.

[BMWpower335i]

you mother fuckers.... stop quoting scripture. god doesnt car if america falls. we are no different than iceland or fucking zimbabwe. just because we are declining does not mean the world is going to end. stop acting selfish and grow a brain.

[Saintapache]

wow full of shit

[daro2096]

Rome started out as a Republic before it became a facist state.

Read Edward Gibbons Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire(I think that is the title).

[rdavian]

wow sure are not alot of viewers on here

[migo53333]

people are to scared to start a revolution...they dont want to give up the material crap and get killed...americans have become the biggest assholes in the world...the next attack is going to make 9-11 look like a picnic..when that happens total anarchy and we' finishedre

[vstar6969]

Anarchy is probably what it will take for the average American who wants his country back. If we don't start a revolution now, we may very well be finished. When we all find ourselves waiting to die in the Fema camps it will be too late for anything...

[WakeupsCall]

"Only Christ's sinless life, sacrificial death and bodily resurrection can bring us to God. He's NOT Dead!"

Yes, he is. He was nailed to a fucking stick of wood, remember? Look to the future for solutions, not to the ignorant past.

[captainnutrition]

I had the same feelings you do for a long time. Try reading the bible and see if anything changes. Peace

[migo53333]

Okay Mr. Religous....why would God allow this to happen in the first place, are you saying the devil wins????

[jasonwkeller76]

he was also resurected 3 days later. Jesus is very much alive.

[shanklinmike]

I don't want an Empire or mob rule democracy! I would like my liberty-minded, constitutional democratic-Republic back!

watch?v=V-4kCD4nbrw

[digitaljosh]

Word Up! We Need Jesus Quick!

[hiisyourdaughterhome]

then you're in the shit cause he was killed 2000 years ago

[digitaljosh]

Only Christ's sinless life, sacrificial death and bodily resurrection can bring us to God. He's NOT Dead!

[daro2096]

Amen.

[vstar6969]

Your a Moron..He never lived anywhere but within the pages of a book that was written by man for political reasons...

I can't believe that in this day and age people can still be so gullible as to what is real and what is fantasy...

[migo53333]

This country was founded on religous ideals which justified us slaaughtering and enslaving the american indian tribes that were here for thousands of years.....we were founded on murder..God is not blessing America trust me...want some history? check out how Columbus slaughtered the carribean and also opened a slave trade....ignorance is bliss!

[sniffysmooth]

Columbus wasn't American. He was Spanish. And America WAS NOT founded on religious ideals, if it was it would never have fought against England (God Save the King?).

[migo53333]

wrong america was founded with these ideals....when they expanded outward to claim more territory a cross would be planted aftrer the slaughter......lewis and clark had a christian priest in their entourage.....and what diference does it make if columbus conquered for spain??....he still marauded the carribean, and set up a slave trade with those natives he decided not to kill, and yet he is honored in our history books..

[digitaljosh]

No. I'm wise. I believe The Bible. It's true history, that you don't believe in. ;)

[migo53333]

The Bible is true history???? can u explain how archeologists continue to unearth human bones along with pottery that these humans created dating back 100's of thousands of years! and yet the lineage in the bible goes back only about 6000 years to the creation story...........

[migo53333]

if believing in the bible helps you, then go for it........

[digitaljosh]

The Bible IS Truth. Truth IS Truth whether you believe it or not. God's Word helps everyone know the Truth about God.

[migo53333]

how long ago did the creation story take place????? you know, the one with adam and eve who only gave birth to two sons which means one of them had to have sex with eve which means we r all from incest......

[migo53333]

digitaljosh, the god you speak of we r told knows all things, it is in the bible that jesus said that only the father in heaven knows the exact moment when the world will end....this means he knows everything about the future! why would he create any humans knowing what their free will choice will be??? in other words, he knows your FINAL outcome, so he made you so he can punish you in hell....

[digitaljosh]

God knew His own Son was going to be killed on a cross for something He didn't do. Some people will Burn & some will have Eternal Life. Christ is the Savior. I accept Him. God has a purpose for everything and we don't know it all. God's Will is BEST. He is the judge and He is JUST.

[migo53333]

so i guess it doesnt matter that the bible of truth is filled with contradictions.....

[digitaljosh]

The people that think the Bible's filled with contradictions don't understand the meaning, or have read it out of context.

[migo53333]

No....u havnt read the hundreds of contradictions which DO exist in the bible......

[canvasheart]

migo5333. say i could go a week into the future, follow you around, and wright down everything you did during that week. put it in an envelope, come back , put the envelope in a safety deposit boxes that you and i have to both be there to open, then told you to go about the rest of your week and meet me to open it in a week. now, my simply knowing what you will do doesnt change the fact that you will do it. what you do is still your choice.

[migo53333]

and wouldnt an all knowing God know what your choices be at the end of the equation...u just dont understand an all knowing god would know the end result regardless..why would he create u just so u can be punished in hell??? give me a break.......

[migo53333]

@canvasheart but...your God KNOWS the final choice u will make!.......what dont u understand here.....

[canvasheart]

@migo53333  im not saying these things to pick a fight. Our lives finite, and i only chimed-in in hopes that your heart would be softened and you would reconsider what you think to be true. Cuz if im wrong and you're right, nothing happens when i die. but if im right and you're wrong..... please reconsider

[canvasheart]

@migo53333  Merry Christmas

[vstar6969]

All that you know of religion was created by man to control the people. THERE IS NO JESUS!!!! Your gonna have to protect yourself and not rely on imaginary saviors...

[digitaljosh]

The Bible is the Living Word of God. Everyone dies and meets their maker. Know JESUS, Know the Maker. :)

[migo53333]

Ha, ha.......Leviticus.." stone to death Homosexuals, women who are found to be non virginal at their marriage and disobedient children.....thats an all loving God! Thou shalt not Kill!! ha ha ha....

[digitaljosh]

God does not change. He loves you, but when you sin & don't seek forgiveness, He will punish you. Read your Mosaic Law again. Leviticus is all about substitution. It was for the Jews at that time period. We now have Christ to save us from being stoned. Do you see what I'm saying?

[migo53333]

i see u r brainwashed.............i would not send my child to a hell if they did wrong.....all loving??? major contradiction.......like many humans u need rules and stories to live by......God is the force that is the universe......

[digitaljosh]

I'm not brainwashed. If you accept Christ as your Savior you won't burn in hell. We all have rules & stories to live by. Like Gravity & History. God is the Trinity. ;)

[aklil11]

Yes, thank you for elaborating it: I think the moral decadence of the masses; Decadence of the elite; Military might;Draining of the treasury for the whims of vanity, and on and on are omens of a Declining Empire, Hegemon ... etc. Whether you like it or not America will Decline if not Collapse - it is a matter of when, and the signs have never been so profound than now!

[Stan1208]

The sooner we have a huge disaster, the sooner we can turn to the Lord. This country is beyond help. Too far gone. God help us.

[ESP1EMG]

god cant help us...

[davidcononie]

the bread and circus is so now, people, bitch about gas prices but buy their kids cars and 60 -100 blue jeans made in a third world country for five dollars, and these people who do this shit cant pay thier bills, the priorities are f'd,

wake up american, and thanks to the faithful

[Rudenewt]

The most relevant thing he said was Roman senators were debating what to do about the barbarians as they marched down the streets. Well kids we're the senators, "our" government is the barbarians and the streets are your constitutional rights. You can be as "ready" as you want, the war has passed you by.

[newgtguy]

I'm ready - Food, water, weapons, no debt!

[davidcononie]

good point no debt, debt enslaves us to the banking empire, and our focused on our own shit, this and the fed and the war expansion is a huge problem, I wish mr. w would give his opinion on ron paul,

great video

[AiresQX4]

The Globalists have to destroy America to bring in their World Government!

[Patriot1415]

100% correct on all points. It is a shame watching what is happening to this country. Most people are totally unaware of this situation. They are to busy seeing what Brittany Spears will do next.

[tommybarresi]

SAD BUT TRUE. I'M ALSO READY.

[AnonymousBChurch]

excellent video

[rebelyellshooter]

I'm READY...

[Patriot1415]

You say your ready. What do you mean by this?