M/S Estonia

[TakedownIV]

Night of doom

[kyostim]

This is what is feeded to public, but the truth remains still. Uboat Kursk was same size and that was taken up...what keeps a boat same size on the bottom - maybe the truth. Kursk was in 46m deep and Estonia is 60m...so why not taking that up before that is totally rosted?

[altazboy]

May God have mercy on their souls. May they rest in peace, all the victims, and may the families and loved ones they left behind be strong enough to deal with their tragic losses.

[rillles]

Sp dramatic when wisor get off, 1000s people are in the sea

[matowana]

God dammit, I mean sink, not capsize

[matowana]

Bow visor failures have been pretty common, there have been cases even on new ships. Only the one on Est. was unusually dramatic, with the ramp being forced open. One reason Jan Hew. didn't capsize was probably that it didn't have as many windows as Est. Lots of water came in through the broken windows.

And: even if it's unlikely, it can still happen.

[bjnboy]

Plot Hole regarding the supposed tearing off of the visor:

Even if you could not see the visor itself from the bridge, you should be able to see the light inside the garage illuminating the sea in front of the ship in the middle of the night. Nobody saw anything to this effect. The Commission has never commented upon this fact.

[DukeNukem500]

JAN HEVELIUS capsised 1 year earlier and flouted uppside down for 7 days so estonia should hawe done the same

[Marcinacm1899]

This film shows everything what comission said, but it can't be the truth. Under the superstructure (car deck) in the hull there was 18000 m^3 of air, this ship couldn't sink, it should turn upside down (after 30 degrees list) and float but not sink. Survivors told about 50 degrees list, the one conclusion is that there was leakage in hull.

852 [*] We'll never forget

[Martin1335]

Ithink there is a secret i think Piht escaped and goverment gave him money to get out of the baltic states and start a new life somewhere else.

[netunatu]

These explosive theories are so foolish and stupid..plese should litlle respeckt those who died that night!!! RIP ESTONIA

[aeroavia89]

To all those who think it was an accident, why where traces of an explosion found near the door ?? What became capt. Piht after he was rescued ?

[LS8492]

Good questions, I wonder if we ever get answer on them.

[2189387]

im bored on cam

someone smart please help me V4

[ManenQ]

It was not nuclear weapons lol!

It was militery material, a militery truck was onboard with some ammo crates, maybe some weapons.

[kmp2302]

What about the holes in the ship? And how could it sink so fast?

[ManenQ]

Think, the bow is gone and it's taking in water from the front loading door...

[dborn747]

I think George W. Bush crept aboard the ship and detonated an explosive in the bow. He wanted to practice blowing stuff up for the world trade center. Then he rode a UFO back to Texas. I have proof of all of this!!!!!!

[allth3s4me]

This is a bullshit story. The explosion is not some stupid conspiracy theories (and I hate those!), but there are pretty much proof. 1. Divers have found traces of explosion there. 2. Survivors say that they heard a terrible explosion before the ship lifted. 3. Every seamen will tell you that the visor CANNOT come off by itself, more so- as it was NOT a storm, just the typical shitty autumn weather over here. 4. Explosives and other stuff WERE carried by the ship. Whether or not on that night...

[FredDude27]

Its not as fun to believe the main story. A conspiracy theory is much more fun. It makes you feel special, like you are actually doing an effort against the (obviously) evil goverments everywhere. Anything to get your mind of your own life.

Yay for conspiracy theories!

*rollseyes*

[Aleksandr017]

Yes they were. Mariella was there before the helics. By the way, ManenQ, are you one of the JAIC to say that THIS is true story? Have you been there?

[mastercheif158]

that is a tarrible way to sink ...

unexpected

[Aleksandr017]

Cool! Some of the passengers were saved by Viking Line ferries and by Silja Line's one.

[ManenQ]

No one was saved by them.

It was the helis that saved them from the water.

But Viking Line and Silja was trying to find estonia in the dark but the failed

[RayMKlll]

Did anyone live?

[mastercheif158]

very few

[mitchh77]

not true till they will bring the ship up.

[gladnicke3]

Estonia was not built for that route. Shes was only supposed to go not far then 20 sea miles from land. So the visor were not constructed for this large waves.

[allth3s4me]

NOT TRUE!!!

[sluuter]

ouch but its not true story about estonia

[ManenQ]

It's the true history about the estonia!

Everyone say blah blah it was the terrorists work but now they 've find the right teory!

This ship had no water doors beheind the ramp it had just the ramp and the visator as cover from the water.

If it had water doors they shuldent have sank.

And one more thing the ship was build wrong and culdent take this sea.

It was build to go in better seas.

So this is the true story

[EestiKahur]

u moron estonian ship was not garryng a weapons lol if there was than it shot explos and lol i am from estonia noh saad aru mida ma räägin ve?kes estonia laeva sõimab sellel lõikan munad maha!who miss with estonian ship than i take he balls of!!!!!

[ManenQ]

You have right!

Hehe if Estonia carrying any weapons it huld be an big explosion that sank the ship in some min.

[matthewrz23]

I readed a few years ago the article about "Estonia" in polish science newspaper "Focus". Maybe I haven't got a right, but in my opinion information about drugs or weapons are fantastic hipoteses.

[henkeBF2Rc]

that´s a good vidio whit estonia can´t you do whid ader ships?

[Karppi84]

Yeah, of course this isn't real. In fact, the tsunami after Christmas in 2004 was caused by secret weapons, too. And don't even begin with the real cause to the collapse of world trade center in 2001...

[raykirmann]

some facts you should know, from wikipedia:

Swedish court investigator Johan Hirschfeldt confirmed that the military intelligence indeed used MS Estonia in September 1994 for bringing in secret military equipment, but the content of the shipment will remain classified for 70 years.(this happened at about 2004/5)

May 2005, Gregg Bemis and his crew who dived to and filmed the wreck recovered pieces of metal which, in laboratory tests, showed evidence of an explosion

[raykirmann]

some facts you should know, from wikipedia:

Swedish court investigator Johan Hirschfeldt confirmed that the military intelligence indeed used MS Estonia in September 1994 for bringing in secret military equipment, but the content of the shipment will remain classified for 70 years.(this happened at about 2004/5)

May 2005, Gregg Bemis and his crew who dived to and filmed the wreck recovered pieces of metal which, in laboratory tests, showed evidence of an explosion

[DIERUSSIADIE]

i heard that there is one big hole in the bottom of the ship.

[mastercheif158]

very unlucky

just unlucky in the baltic

[ottoass]

those idiots who talk shit about russians. liars! i believe Estonia was drowned with purpose, it was not happenstance. but damn... if there was that staff which had been transported from Russia, why you blame only Russia idiots?

[skylineXpert]

sombody please see that its not was the russians or terrorrists

it was the high waves.

[ibbhej]

The ship were of course carrying nuclear ralated material. when the ship would have reached harbor there was a military convoy ready to carry "Sensitive material" this would later have been shipped to syria.

[theshipman]

Well, I for one don't believe the official line. The 2 bangs and subsaquint shuddering were indicuitiave of an explosion. And I've heard that reasently released documents state that the ferry was being used to move top secret "War material" across the Baltic. And I'm not even talking about the simple explosives we KNOW were being carried in Septimber '94. Any idea what those were? Please reply.

[LS8492]

I do not believet this!! So big ship just can't sunk so fast. And what happened to Avo Piht and 7 other members on the crew? Even Estonia's primeminister(on his time) sayed that he had talked with Piht in Turku. And why is the goverment of Sweden covering the wreck so quickly? They would save more money if they would get the wreck up from the bottom. Why those who investigate the wreck, get killing-threats all the time. Wreck up & those partisan bastards away from goverment!!!

[9cx]

You are absolutely right! This video is a complete peace of sh*t! I does not explain anything at all! In the video they try to show that the ramp, at the front of the ship, was forced apart from the rest as a result of the hard waves. They do not in any way go into detail as to how much preassure the front ramp was able to cope with. It seems rather unlikely that the ship was engineered in a way in which it would fall apart due to rough seas.

[allth3s4me]

Yeah, if you have ever seen my comments, that's what I've said. I've been countless times in the sea during the most sever Baltic storms (during the disaster there wasn't a storm, just bad weather!), with much weaker, smaller ships, constructed just the same, with much bigger, stronger waves. And guess, what..the visor didn't come off! xD fucking idiots. Every seamen will tell you that it's impossible for the visor to come off in the waves. PURELY IMPOSSIBLE! this video is a piece of shit.

[gladnicke3]

Remember! ESTONIA WAS A 14 YEARS OLD SHIP!!! The Sea inspection was checking her before she sailed that night, and they found a problem with the visor!!

[allth3s4me]

THERE ARE much older ships still going, also at that time. i havent heard the inspection saying there were problems during the time they inspected either, OTHERWISE they wouldnt have let that ship out of harbor.

[juhturpe]

So all bow door failures and incidents described in the MV Estonia report are fabricated?

[trikoobeib]

So big ship can sunk faster in 1987. march 6 ship "The Herald of Free Enterprise" sail out from harbour ramp and visor opened. It was clear sea no storm and ship sunk fast they had only few seconds before ship was submerged.

[ibbhej]

yeah but in that ship. the car ramp made 20% of the volume of the ship. in estonia it only made about 5%.

[9cx]

It did not go down as fast as Estonia, in fact if you are willing to investigate the incident involving Herald of Free Enterprise a little better you will come upon the fact that the ship stayed above the watter surface for hours due to the air trapped inside the ship.

However the ship did capsize and turned upside down which led to the death of many of those trapped inside The Herald

[joux666]

really estonia was sanked by russian ship under the watter, because the estonians stoled russian technology and wanted to deliver it to sweden, and now they want to let it be in "grave caml" this is really bullshit

[Lastesina]

It's amazing how many people that are lying about that they had a relative or a friend that died in Estonia Estline...

[kahviman1234]

My friend dad was dead is sea

[davidwfin]

this ship has diving in 1994

[Lastesina]

you mean it sank in 1994

[Kambanicity]

this is bullshit

On the original sonar search u can clearly se that the bow visior was in place.

so this is totaly bullshit

[13mikael]

This is the official investigators animation!

[Kambanicity]

I know that friend

But I dont belive in it as far as visor faling off.

In the begining and i mean the begining they stated that the visor was in place.

From the first minute of the disaster news chanels talket about the visor faling of.Someone plantet that infomation.

[Kotik112]

Thats the problem.. the Vehicle deck wasn't watertight.

Cheers for the video mate.. finally understand it all

[swaanson]

Even if the front visor and ramp broke, that doesn't explain why it sunk so fast. It should have capsized and remain afloat since the decks below the vehicle deck are watertight, even with all the upper decks filled with water. Does someone know?

[leijonhjelm]

Depends on the construction. In the case of ro-ro ferrys like Estonia I doubt many of them can stay afloat like that for very long, especially not with the bow visor and ramp missing.

[Splitnnn]

As far as I know, Estonia didn't have the doors behind the ramp, to protect the deck from flooding.

[erikpoiss]

kle ma arvan et ma tean rohkem kui sina sest et mu vanemad olid seal ema pääses isa ei pääsenud R.I.P ema räägis algul oli meri rahulik pärast nagu metsik kiskja.ütle miks siis esi osa küljest kukkus.

[swaanson]

First the official story about the weather is biased.

"Weather experts say that the allegation about a sixty foot wave was extremely unlikely, due to the fact that several other ships were in the area and they reported "6 foot [2 meter] waves in the area" with winds at 15mph"

All of a sudden M/S Estonia gets 10x higher waves. Give me a break.

[RafaelAmaros22]

This is like the murder of Olof Palme and the authorities attitude when the tsunami hit and killed a lot of swedish families.

Inside were a lot of bombs in Estonia!

Admit it Mona Sahlin!

[kentser1]

and when the true story is revealed most of estonian and swedish nowdays and ex politics will loose all their respect .people will never forget it , so beware -and as someone one said -i hope you´l alle burn in hell

[kentser1]

ofcourse ther was a bomb or russian military on board and now svedish and estonian goverments are trying to make up story that estonia sank because of somekind of visor -yeah ofcourse -where are the part of the film that was recorded when they dived to estonia .also svedish goverment has banned some people who has benn down ther to talk about it ever .

[erikpoiss]

ei olnud mingit pommi need sõja tehnika võis olla pardal aga need lihtsalt läksid põhja tormiga

[swaanson]

Kui seal midagi tähtsat ei olnud siis miks, Estonia Agreement sõlmiti?

"In the end, the Estonia Agreement 1995, a treaty between Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Denmark, Russia and the United Kingdom (though the UK itself is not a Baltic state), declared sanctity over the site, prohibiting its citizens from even approaching the wreck"

Miks taheti M/S Estonia Betooniga katta?

[PisiPrintsess]

Eestlased teavad onju, et need mingid värdjas tahtsid seda laeva põhja lasta ja tegid kabuuuh ja siis läkski laev põhja. Kuidas muidu see auk sinna külje sisse sai?

Selle video järgi peaksid kõik Ofeliad ja Scaniad ja ST.Olad üheainsa reisiga katki minema, kuna see süsteem on ju kõik sama.

Oli pomm oli!.

[McLarenMercedes]

There was no bomb. IDIOTS. The divers have already said there is NO evidence of anything else than metal fatigue excatly as shown here. In fact they tried to make the german shipyard pay for designing the ship unsafe. The german shipyard replied and said the visor had been poorly maintained and rusty.

Idiots will also believe Titanic sank because there was an Egyptian curse mummy on the ship or that the hull of the Titanic spelled NO POPE backwards.

[josepanterra]

OK there was no explosion, BUT...

At the moment of the catastrophe explosion was a viable cause. Intelligence cracked recently that Estonia was used for secret transportation of "implements of war".

See, the rumour of an explosion, cast by Meyer Werft Gmbh, followed by a massive coverup action seemed possible.

[ounaaja123]

all worning..where this sad video is from??

[Palamulla]

all wrong! inside were bombs..

[13mikael]

Exaxtly, they don't yet know was there bomb or was'nt. But it really sinks because of the visor break off, so everythins WAS NOT a lie.

[krirre]

I meant bow visor..

[krirre]

The bow visir should be in the back of the ship.

[CluckingBell1]

The narrator sounds like a retard.

[mathiaz99]

Is not true, it was a explain

[14ccKemiskt]

It's really not necessary to explain to the conspiracy enthusiasts that there are

1) No proof of any "holes" or rests of "chemicals" found on the wreck

2) A number witnesses who reported metallic bangs from the bow right before the sinking but no reports of any "explosion" or similar.

3) Clear evidence on the visor itself that this movie explains what actually happened.

Some people simply _wants_ this disaster to mysterios and, of course, a deliberate action by some unknown force. So sad.

[ivario]

great material! but tink, that wasn't the real reason, why the ship sank.

[sukasend]

What do you think was the real reason?

[ivario]

Well, maybe that's not the thing that happened, but i think, that there was a car on the Auto Deck full of Russian military equipment. And some Russian agents probably blew the ship up(that explains the holes seen on a subdivers taken video here in YouTube, the holes were made from the inside and some explosive chemicals were found on the holes).

[13mikael]

Yoy're wrong; that was!

[z0mger999]

Heh Estonia Estonia........Cool video =(