I was once involved in an incident with the "Tazer Cop" when I was in high school.
He, Judd Warden, had me (a 16 yr old) come out and help arrest a suspected shoplifter.
He immediately rushed the suspect from behind without warning (a teenager stealing a pack of smokes) with me and ended up throwing us all onto the ground.
Next thing I know, he is spraying mace in my face (and his) and the suspect (who could have just ran off) stayed put.
He should be protecting THE PUBLIC! EXCESSIVE FORCE!
I saw the whole damned thing and if there was any resisting arrest by Van Ornum it was in response to the use of overwhelming force as a reflex to protect himself from injury.
The officer who received this award did not recieve it for the taser incident. In fact, the decision to give him the award came from his long standing work with the community on community related issues. He worked hard with downtown business owners to address complaints they had about vandalism and other downtown issues. It had nothing whatsoever to do with the taser incident. It was just bad timing. If he was deserving because of all the other things he did that year.
Ture the discussion of civil disobedience is a long one and has shown on mulitiple occasions that it can be both powerfully helpful and hidering to progress. Protesting can be good, but at what expence to others? And who decides that? I'm confused if your statement regarding Human Response is meant for both sides of the arguement? Regardless of this isolated incident I have found Eugene as a whole, with their pride in diversity, is very stubborn and judgmental toward change and differing veiws.
1st - Time limitation denied me the capacity to talk about responsible and coherent civil disobedience. What does that look like?
Second, the place of recognizing true valuable Police work is just as deep a loss to the dialogue as not discussing ethical civil disobedience,
It is true he would not get an award for just tasering a protester. But, I still believe that human response of "hooray for our guy and the way we do" is there ...
You slipped past one key issue involved in the arrest of VanOrnum. I agree that recieving a ticket for Disorderley Conduct is a valid response. But, when you resist the police you give up the chance at a ticket and raise the bar yourself. Also, I don't think the EPD would hand out an award like the one given, for one single over publsized arrest. Unfortunetly, unless you look for it, the good things our Police do don't seem to be news worthy to local papers and get no attention.
stop complaining. they give they're lives so you can bitch.
acousticflowz 10 months ago
The "Police" of all societies have had 2 faces throughout history:
#1.) Law Enforcement - Public Order
#2.) Enforcement of the Values of the Ruling Elite & Display of "Social Disapproval" - adhoc judge, jury & executioner of self perceived Justice
The US has seen a parallel evolution of Professional Policing (GOOD!) & Frontier Justice and Para-Military behavior (BAD!)
My concern is with the use of dehumanizing technical tools like tasers & mace and rights suspension. I want a effective Police.
leo81316 2 years ago
I was once involved in an incident with the "Tazer Cop" when I was in high school.
He, Judd Warden, had me (a 16 yr old) come out and help arrest a suspected shoplifter.
He immediately rushed the suspect from behind without warning (a teenager stealing a pack of smokes) with me and ended up throwing us all onto the ground.
Next thing I know, he is spraying mace in my face (and his) and the suspect (who could have just ran off) stayed put.
He should be protecting THE PUBLIC! EXCESSIVE FORCE!
tonyt1076 2 years ago
I mean "NOT!!!!!"
tonyt1076 2 years ago
I saw the whole damned thing and if there was any resisting arrest by Van Ornum it was in response to the use of overwhelming force as a reflex to protect himself from injury.
thombanjo 2 years ago
And the filthy pig JUDD WARDEN also tasered an innocent Chinese student [also ov UO] inside his OWN dorm!!! Damn, filthy, cowardly PIGS!!!
DarknessUnresolved 2 years ago
Taser him again. Stupid hippie protester.
Mpd10206 2 years ago
denvereddennis has shared a video with you on YouTube:
denvereddennis 2 years ago
The officer who received this award did not recieve it for the taser incident. In fact, the decision to give him the award came from his long standing work with the community on community related issues. He worked hard with downtown business owners to address complaints they had about vandalism and other downtown issues. It had nothing whatsoever to do with the taser incident. It was just bad timing. If he was deserving because of all the other things he did that year.
yt1968a 2 years ago
Whenever the police call for donations, hang up!
jrbonham75 2 years ago
Ture the discussion of civil disobedience is a long one and has shown on mulitiple occasions that it can be both powerfully helpful and hidering to progress. Protesting can be good, but at what expence to others? And who decides that? I'm confused if your statement regarding Human Response is meant for both sides of the arguement? Regardless of this isolated incident I have found Eugene as a whole, with their pride in diversity, is very stubborn and judgmental toward change and differing veiws.
Samurai237 2 years ago
There are 2 things I see wrong with what I said.
1st - Time limitation denied me the capacity to talk about responsible and coherent civil disobedience. What does that look like?
Second, the place of recognizing true valuable Police work is just as deep a loss to the dialogue as not discussing ethical civil disobedience,
It is true he would not get an award for just tasering a protester. But, I still believe that human response of "hooray for our guy and the way we do" is there ...
leo81316 2 years ago
You slipped past one key issue involved in the arrest of VanOrnum. I agree that recieving a ticket for Disorderley Conduct is a valid response. But, when you resist the police you give up the chance at a ticket and raise the bar yourself. Also, I don't think the EPD would hand out an award like the one given, for one single over publsized arrest. Unfortunetly, unless you look for it, the good things our Police do don't seem to be news worthy to local papers and get no attention.
Samurai237 2 years ago