It would be easy to turn the tables on women with this issue. Guys in general are much more tolerant of sexual advances, leering, flirting. Women do these as well, but guys take the heat more often since women are more easily offended. I personally could turn in multiple women where I work for "sexual harassment" if I wanted to be a prick.
Then do it. Instead of crying about it. And you wont be a prick, a lot of guys get harassed too. They're just pansies and don't want to look all unmacho in front of their guy coworkers. "What a chick grabbed your azz and you reported her?! WTF is wrong with you man? You should have hooked up with her! What are you gay???" Yeah, heard a lot of those before.
@midnull Ididn't say that I reported anyone, just speaking about the double standard. I'm fine with any attention I get from women I just don't like people being two faced. Am I gay? No, but I have absolutely no problem with anyone that is. This is 2011 and with your mindset you are the one who has something wrong with you.
@mrbriscoe2001 I know people say that all the time, but I disagree. I was never harassed by other girls in high school, only boys. It seemed like all of my friends were just more tolerant of harassment when it was being dealt out by their male classmates, so the only ones they complained about were other girls.
@twinkimaster I'm sorry you had a rough time at High School;but Sexual harassment was a concept invented to deal with problems perpetuated mostly by ADULT men against working women ;the definition has always been troublesome and subjective;It's always seemed ludicrous to me to apply it to people in the early years of sexual development;if it's unwanted (non-sexual)you have to let the person know you dont like it;obviously,unwanted sexual touching is an easy call;but the second definition is..
@mrbriscoe2001 ... "Hostile environment;" and in the areaof viscous gossip and pathological meanness in support of the High School hierarchy--Women win hands down..
i got a question if i touched a ladies back and asked her to move to a side to i can retrive a product is that considered sexual harasment and if only happened that one time and now o ther time
@blackoil911 Uhmm.I'm not an expert;;I just gave my opinion; if the lady didn't complain,I think you're ok' women aren't dumb;they can usually sense intent pretty well...
she didnt however 3weeks later another incident took place which wasnt sexual harassment however the incident was brought up? but its ok dont worry i ll to a lawyer i dont care what women sense i didnt touch her on purpose
katie miss spelled a lot of words she forgot to spell the word girls instead of boys sorrry katie girls sexually harass boys just as much at schools next time ask a boy if hes sexually harassed
I'm Katie Kurk, and I'm an idiot reading off hearsay that I've been told from other people who, like me, have never personally witnessed this shit happening in the first place.
Hey Toots. You ever see how some of these high school girls dress? Shut the hell up! You have your job because of you gender. It isn't because of your ratings. God this bitch pisses me off!
Fuck these devious bitches. The same study had very "low" definitions of harassment and an equal percent of boys reported, under this definition, they had been harassed. But, they don't give a shit, they just want to keep the feminist pressure to dominate men. Fuck Couric and fuck feminism.
if you give a compliment to a girl or woman you don't know well, can she accuse you for sexual harassment? just because of a compliment, nothing more than that? (not a compliment out of sexual neediness)
i think your country is so f....d up with some laws.
there are lots of lunatics who will use this law to put you down.
And "experienced" anchors shouldn't accept statistics uncritically;interesting to know how they defined the term;and MAYBE the term shouldn't be used at all regarding young people in the middle of sexual development?
@232J0K3RZakaTRAV13SO Wtf? Was I talking to you???? I was clearly addressing sexual predators. I hope you're not applying that you are one?? ?? Just looking at your profile I can tell you're comfortable with guys harassing girls...well I'm not like you. Guy or girl should not touch one another without permission. FYI, I'm not fat you bitch.
Let's see. Some normal guy shows up with some good compliments but you don't like him. Maybe he hasn't done anything wrong to you but you find him disgusting or annoying (why not, there are many kinds of people). You take his compliments as harassment. Then, you want to put him down just for your pleasure. Maybe you wont get far with that idea but at least you'll make his life miserable for few days or more. How do you define 'harassment'?
@bergmanana What I was talking about , perhaps I wasn't being too specific, was harassment in the form of touching without permission. I'm not talking about compliments from "normal" guys-as long as I feel comfortable, I'll gladly welcome positive words. FYI, I don't randomly put people down for my own pleasure nor do I harshly judge people without getting to know them first. My self-esteem is not build upon such disgraceful behavior.
I wonder, can this kind of law be missaplied on an innocent guy?
Lets say there is a woman whose self-esteem is build upon such 'disgraceful' behavior or she wants to achieve some goal. How Can I defend myself? Shall I keep my mouth shut?
For example, my colleague wants to use my compliments against me. You know that old story. He's a man and she's a woman. That means he's a liar!
I'm not used on that. It makes me feel like a robot.
@bergmanana Yes, we live in a very double standard world, it is sad but true. You can't defend yourself by keeping quiet. If you want justice, you fight for it. I don't know what you said to her, but if you feel that you were wrongly accused, you should stand up for yourself. What is the point of freedom of speech, if we can't use it?
I agree with that, being a girl, that alot of people just are trying to get money or whatever from saying they were harrassed. But, there is also the actual harassment. UGHHH
Kind of my point, also: it's not a black-and-white thing. If something makes someone feel uncomfortable, it's harassment, but if the person is over-sensitive, maybe it isn't. Likewise, it's wrong to harass someone in some sick way just because the person is too weak to speak up. I doubt 90% of girls have been "sexually harassed."
well a girl gets a bit of attention now im gonna strech the truth out and make all guys sound bad thats a page from my note book! guess what i got harassed yesterday its ok! harassment is wrong thosome is called flirting!
Good question. Here's an all-around definition: "Sexual harassment means unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature that end up creating an intimidating, hostile or offensive work or school environment." Or google "facts about sexual harassment" (use the quotation marks) and click on the top deal - it's the EEOC).
Yes: it was a sarcastic question. I doubt the figure that 90% of female students in the United States have been, what a "reasonable person" would call, "sexually harassed." I don't mean to turn a blind-eye to a real problem, but the figure seems absurd.
Commando: Good call. Google: new study on sexual harassment webmd
See the top article. In that article sexual harassment is defined as _any_ negative gender-related comment. I would call some of those "sexist comments," not "sexual harassment." This explains why coaches and teachers were also big offenders. Now, Google: new study on sexual harassment parker See top Article. The number is closer to 35 pct. That's still bad, IMO, but nowhere near 90%!!
I suppose "90%" just has that nice "shock value" one looks for in a news segment. I agree: offensive comments, if sexually based, are inappropriate, but to call them harassment, in many cases, somewhat diminishes the seriousness of actual instances thereof.
commando: Wait, that's not what I meant. I believe in that 90 pct study, they included gender-related comments like, "Oh girls shouldn't go into science, they're not cut out for it." To me, that's not sexual harassment. But any comment that is sexually oriented, say, e.g., a comment to a girl about her body, I think that's sexual harassment.
I see. I disagree, then; but, again, it's difficult to make the classifications. A teacher saying to his or her student, "Nice ass," is most likely inappropriate, and perhaps it is to be labeled harassment, of a sexual nature. Quid-pro-quo harassment, or physical aggression, however, is more what I place in this category.
commando: Re: "A teacher saying to his or her student, 'Nice ass,' is most likely inappropriate, " Most likely?? Here's a way to see if you think something is sexual harassment. If you were to have a 12 year old daughter, and a male teacher said, "nice ass" to your daughter, is that okay with ya?? How about your mom by some stranger at the mall? The only way that women can be protected from this constant crap is for guys to stand up to it.
Yeah, I'm sorry: I should have mentioned I had college students in mind (maybe older high school).
The "test" you, and many, put forth, about imagining a family member in a situation, doesn't work very well: the impartiality and level-headedness one needs to analyze a situation completely disappear.
Also, I realize the numbers are quite slanted, but men, too, endure harassment, and are usually less comfortable complaining, because it's something less likely to be taken seriously.
command: The "test" works just fine because it gets any guy out of his mindset of thinking about females only as sexual objects. The idea is to allow a guy to analyze a situation in terms of the actual fairness involved toward a female that he loves and respects. Every female is someone's daughter or sister. That's actually pretty objective. I agree about men as objects of harassment, but I believe it is a much smaller problem in comparison.
I disagree, first, with the unfortunate stereotype that guys tend to think about women as "objects" (some do, but I couldn't consider them the majority) (also, women aren't more or less free of such thinking), and, second, with the idea that the "test" is appropriate. People wish themselves and those close to them to enjoy a sort of existence they wouldn't necessarily feel it's necessary be afforded to everyone. Most of these issues can be addressed with just some common sense and morality.
Well, considering we have had two or three coach-student problems in the last year or two at my school, I would like to propose this: Get rid of football, and spend money on some books instead. Maybe even some books about sexual harassment, or the Hitler youth, considering they run the school like a fascist regime anyway. HEIL HEIL HEIL FRAU FUHRER. Heil das Hitler. Heil das Deutschland, Texas! Heil DRESS CODE, SO WE CAN SEXUALLY HARASS EACH OTHER EASIER. Get with the program, idiot!
yea that is true i have seen it alot this i remember one high school i went to one of the teacher was fucking a few of the girls and also on eof my sister use to fuck a teacher i was like yo make sure he give me a all a's lol
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wynetta2 5 months ago
It would be easy to turn the tables on women with this issue. Guys in general are much more tolerant of sexual advances, leering, flirting. Women do these as well, but guys take the heat more often since women are more easily offended. I personally could turn in multiple women where I work for "sexual harassment" if I wanted to be a prick.
aardvark9100 6 months ago
@aardvark9100
Then do it. Instead of crying about it. And you wont be a prick, a lot of guys get harassed too. They're just pansies and don't want to look all unmacho in front of their guy coworkers. "What a chick grabbed your azz and you reported her?! WTF is wrong with you man? You should have hooked up with her! What are you gay???" Yeah, heard a lot of those before.
midnull 3 months ago
@midnull Ididn't say that I reported anyone, just speaking about the double standard. I'm fine with any attention I get from women I just don't like people being two faced. Am I gay? No, but I have absolutely no problem with anyone that is. This is 2011 and with your mindset you are the one who has something wrong with you.
aardvark9100 3 months ago
actually in High School most of the cruel sexual harassment is girl on girl .."That jamie' s such a slut..."
mrbriscoe2001 7 months ago
@mrbriscoe2001 I know people say that all the time, but I disagree. I was never harassed by other girls in high school, only boys. It seemed like all of my friends were just more tolerant of harassment when it was being dealt out by their male classmates, so the only ones they complained about were other girls.
twinkimaster 7 months ago
@twinkimaster I'm sorry you had a rough time at High School;but Sexual harassment was a concept invented to deal with problems perpetuated mostly by ADULT men against working women ;the definition has always been troublesome and subjective;It's always seemed ludicrous to me to apply it to people in the early years of sexual development;if it's unwanted (non-sexual)you have to let the person know you dont like it;obviously,unwanted sexual touching is an easy call;but the second definition is..
mrbriscoe2001 7 months ago
@mrbriscoe2001 ... "Hostile environment;" and in the areaof viscous gossip and pathological meanness in support of the High School hierarchy--Women win hands down..
mrbriscoe2001 7 months ago
@mrbriscoe2001
i got a question if i touched a ladies back and asked her to move to a side to i can retrive a product is that considered sexual harasment and if only happened that one time and now o ther time
blackoil911 6 months ago
@blackoil911 Uhmm.I'm not an expert;;I just gave my opinion; if the lady didn't complain,I think you're ok' women aren't dumb;they can usually sense intent pretty well...
mrbriscoe2001 6 months ago
@mrbriscoe2001
she didnt however 3weeks later another incident took place which wasnt sexual harassment however the incident was brought up? but its ok dont worry i ll to a lawyer i dont care what women sense i didnt touch her on purpose
blackoil911 6 months ago
@mrbriscoe2001
True.
midnull 3 months ago
katie miss spelled a lot of words she forgot to spell the word girls instead of boys sorrry katie girls sexually harass boys just as much at schools next time ask a boy if hes sexually harassed
narcovice 7 months ago
Bitches need to hush day mouvs or ima go back to shuvin ma dik in em
goldandsilverman 8 months ago
i'd sexually harass her. i sexually harass women every single day
komedyizlyfe125 8 months ago
because here at CBS,blind,unthinking parroting of statistics from tremendously flawed studies is what we do....
mrbriscoe2001 9 months ago
what about men that are sexually harassed by women?... Oh yeah society doesn't care.
Zachisgod92 11 months ago
@Zachisgod92
Could you please exmplain , how men get harassed by women? ( which way?)
ethar2 7 months ago
@ethar2 The same way a woman can be harassed?
Zachisgod92 7 months ago
stfu katie couric
Rongarlo 11 months ago
awesome
i hate teenage bitches
they should all go back to their home on whore island
Ariel0Sharon0GETBaC 11 months ago
Couric starts off reporting on a news story and then segues into an opinion piece and imploring men to "get with the program." What is this MSNBC?
jefit 1 year ago
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djhs95 1 year ago
white blouse, with BIG cuffs.
skanemermaid 1 year ago
the more you know
wilcox24 1 year ago
I'm Katie Kurk, and I'm an idiot reading off hearsay that I've been told from other people who, like me, have never personally witnessed this shit happening in the first place.
psycopathicteen 1 year ago
Let these stupid cunts know that shutting the fuck up is a good option. Learn to put the dick in their mouth: Manhood101 . com
thenfm 1 year ago
Hey Toots. You ever see how some of these high school girls dress? Shut the hell up! You have your job because of you gender. It isn't because of your ratings. God this bitch pisses me off!
TuggSpeedmann 1 year ago
Fuck these devious bitches. The same study had very "low" definitions of harassment and an equal percent of boys reported, under this definition, they had been harassed. But, they don't give a shit, they just want to keep the feminist pressure to dominate men. Fuck Couric and fuck feminism.
ActaNonVerba71 1 year ago
Sonic says Sexual Harassment is good! YTP's are truth!
oskenso 1 year ago
if you give a compliment to a girl or woman you don't know well, can she accuse you for sexual harassment? just because of a compliment, nothing more than that? (not a compliment out of sexual neediness)
i think your country is so f....d up with some laws.
there are lots of lunatics who will use this law to put you down.
bergmanana 1 year ago
I'm not surprised these figures are so high. Teenage girls fucking love attention.
ArmusIctus 1 year ago
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AmbroseAmdis1 1 year ago
@ifartwell ohh ok.
12345soccerguy 1 year ago
@ifartwell r u black? just wondering
12345soccerguy 1 year ago
WTF? male dominated subjects like math and science??? so what are female dominated subjects? art and french?
XbirthdayXmassacreX 2 years ago
Nah Its Home Ec. HA!
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abstract6090 2 years ago
lol i can't believe i didn't think of that one.
XbirthdayXmassacreX 2 years ago
And "experienced" anchors shouldn't accept statistics uncritically;interesting to know how they defined the term;and MAYBE the term shouldn't be used at all regarding young people in the middle of sexual development?
mrbriscoe2001 2 years ago
Sexual Harassment yes, but do they ever report it? no...
Lolismad 2 years ago
@Lolismad you cant its a power play move......... and the school's will cover it up are kick you out ......
503 2 years ago
One in 4 "saying" they've been sexually harassed means nothing. Everybody wants to be a victim these days.
TheIssis 2 years ago 2
TRUE THAT. Glad someone else understands.
fnawesomewes 2 years ago
If any perverted, random guy tried to harass me I'll make sure his "thing" is no longer attached to his body.
Trinitymurder 2 years ago 3
@Trinitymurder fuck you bitch no one would wanna harras your fatass
232J0K3RZakaTRAV13SO 1 year ago
@232J0K3RZakaTRAV13SO Wtf? Was I talking to you???? I was clearly addressing sexual predators. I hope you're not applying that you are one?? ?? Just looking at your profile I can tell you're comfortable with guys harassing girls...well I'm not like you. Guy or girl should not touch one another without permission. FYI, I'm not fat you bitch.
Trinitymurder 1 year ago
@Trinitymurder
Let's see. Some normal guy shows up with some good compliments but you don't like him. Maybe he hasn't done anything wrong to you but you find him disgusting or annoying (why not, there are many kinds of people). You take his compliments as harassment. Then, you want to put him down just for your pleasure. Maybe you wont get far with that idea but at least you'll make his life miserable for few days or more. How do you define 'harassment'?
bergmanana 1 year ago
@bergmanana What I was talking about , perhaps I wasn't being too specific, was harassment in the form of touching without permission. I'm not talking about compliments from "normal" guys-as long as I feel comfortable, I'll gladly welcome positive words. FYI, I don't randomly put people down for my own pleasure nor do I harshly judge people without getting to know them first. My self-esteem is not build upon such disgraceful behavior.
Trinitymurder 1 year ago
@Trinitymurder
I assume that.
I wonder, can this kind of law be missaplied on an innocent guy?
Lets say there is a woman whose self-esteem is build upon such 'disgraceful' behavior or she wants to achieve some goal. How Can I defend myself? Shall I keep my mouth shut?
For example, my colleague wants to use my compliments against me. You know that old story. He's a man and she's a woman. That means he's a liar!
I'm not used on that. It makes me feel like a robot.
bergmanana 1 year ago
@bergmanana Yes, we live in a very double standard world, it is sad but true. You can't defend yourself by keeping quiet. If you want justice, you fight for it. I don't know what you said to her, but if you feel that you were wrongly accused, you should stand up for yourself. What is the point of freedom of speech, if we can't use it?
Trinitymurder 1 year ago
@Trinitymurder Of course, because it's all full of bullshit, that will never happen.
DaYungGuy 1 year ago
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I sexually harrass all the time Big WHoop. Big WHOOP. Big effin Whoop. If you dont like it stay away from my hands.. real talk
jakehubbb 2 years ago
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me too brother! i like the blacks more then the white cuz black harrass me too. niggero
TheTJDoerinator 2 years ago
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Trance4mer24 2 years ago 5
to some girls being able to say that they were sexually abused is cool, so they lie about it.
thingshappens 2 years ago
I agree with that, being a girl, that alot of people just are trying to get money or whatever from saying they were harrassed. But, there is also the actual harassment. UGHHH
BlackRavenStudios 3 years ago
Their is no better inspiration than a good slap on the ass.
camptrav 3 years ago
pig.
BlackRavenStudios 3 years ago 2
WHO CARES?
HEMIMEGACAB 3 years ago
wow tht news bitch must honestly think tht ONLY girls get harrassed
missersuperman 3 years ago
Did she say a quater of it was from brothers?????/ FUCK!!!!
stinkstinkstink111 3 years ago
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if i was a teacher i would fuck so many students. so damn many. i would lick their buttcracks too. ALLLLLLL DAYYYYYYY the news bitch would get it too
drunkanddisorderly89 3 years ago
The source of this "original study" is the May 2008 issue of Ms. Magazine.
I hear Ms. Magazine is a highly reputable source ...
grubedoo 3 years ago
It may have been published in Ms. Magazine, but that wouldn't be the source.
Joyness333 3 years ago
Kind of my point, also: it's not a black-and-white thing. If something makes someone feel uncomfortable, it's harassment, but if the person is over-sensitive, maybe it isn't. Likewise, it's wrong to harass someone in some sick way just because the person is too weak to speak up. I doubt 90% of girls have been "sexually harassed."
Commando303X 3 years ago
well a girl gets a bit of attention now im gonna strech the truth out and make all guys sound bad thats a page from my note book! guess what i got harassed yesterday its ok! harassment is wrong thosome is called flirting!
elzabig1 3 years ago
90%? Define "harassment."
Commando303X 3 years ago
Good question. Here's an all-around definition: "Sexual harassment means unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature that end up creating an intimidating, hostile or offensive work or school environment." Or google "facts about sexual harassment" (use the quotation marks) and click on the top deal - it's the EEOC).
nicholas9999 3 years ago
Yes: it was a sarcastic question. I doubt the figure that 90% of female students in the United States have been, what a "reasonable person" would call, "sexually harassed." I don't mean to turn a blind-eye to a real problem, but the figure seems absurd.
Commando303X 3 years ago
Commando: Good call. Google: new study on sexual harassment webmd
See the top article. In that article sexual harassment is defined as _any_ negative gender-related comment. I would call some of those "sexist comments," not "sexual harassment." This explains why coaches and teachers were also big offenders. Now, Google: new study on sexual harassment parker See top Article. The number is closer to 35 pct. That's still bad, IMO, but nowhere near 90%!!
nicholas9999 3 years ago
I suppose "90%" just has that nice "shock value" one looks for in a news segment. I agree: offensive comments, if sexually based, are inappropriate, but to call them harassment, in many cases, somewhat diminishes the seriousness of actual instances thereof.
Commando303X 3 years ago
commando: Wait, that's not what I meant. I believe in that 90 pct study, they included gender-related comments like, "Oh girls shouldn't go into science, they're not cut out for it." To me, that's not sexual harassment. But any comment that is sexually oriented, say, e.g., a comment to a girl about her body, I think that's sexual harassment.
nicholas9999 3 years ago
I see. I disagree, then; but, again, it's difficult to make the classifications. A teacher saying to his or her student, "Nice ass," is most likely inappropriate, and perhaps it is to be labeled harassment, of a sexual nature. Quid-pro-quo harassment, or physical aggression, however, is more what I place in this category.
Commando303X 3 years ago
commando: Re: "A teacher saying to his or her student, 'Nice ass,' is most likely inappropriate, " Most likely?? Here's a way to see if you think something is sexual harassment. If you were to have a 12 year old daughter, and a male teacher said, "nice ass" to your daughter, is that okay with ya?? How about your mom by some stranger at the mall? The only way that women can be protected from this constant crap is for guys to stand up to it.
nicholas9999 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm sorry: I should have mentioned I had college students in mind (maybe older high school).
The "test" you, and many, put forth, about imagining a family member in a situation, doesn't work very well: the impartiality and level-headedness one needs to analyze a situation completely disappear.
Also, I realize the numbers are quite slanted, but men, too, endure harassment, and are usually less comfortable complaining, because it's something less likely to be taken seriously.
Commando303X 3 years ago
command: The "test" works just fine because it gets any guy out of his mindset of thinking about females only as sexual objects. The idea is to allow a guy to analyze a situation in terms of the actual fairness involved toward a female that he loves and respects. Every female is someone's daughter or sister. That's actually pretty objective. I agree about men as objects of harassment, but I believe it is a much smaller problem in comparison.
nicholas9999 3 years ago
I disagree, first, with the unfortunate stereotype that guys tend to think about women as "objects" (some do, but I couldn't consider them the majority) (also, women aren't more or less free of such thinking), and, second, with the idea that the "test" is appropriate. People wish themselves and those close to them to enjoy a sort of existence they wouldn't necessarily feel it's necessary be afforded to everyone. Most of these issues can be addressed with just some common sense and morality.
Commando303X 3 years ago
somebody sexually harass me
please
deepinsidedorothy 3 years ago
Well, considering we have had two or three coach-student problems in the last year or two at my school, I would like to propose this: Get rid of football, and spend money on some books instead. Maybe even some books about sexual harassment, or the Hitler youth, considering they run the school like a fascist regime anyway. HEIL HEIL HEIL FRAU FUHRER. Heil das Hitler. Heil das Deutschland, Texas! Heil DRESS CODE, SO WE CAN SEXUALLY HARASS EACH OTHER EASIER. Get with the program, idiot!
Iliek80085 3 years ago
yea that is true i have seen it alot this i remember one high school i went to one of the teacher was fucking a few of the girls and also on eof my sister use to fuck a teacher i was like yo make sure he give me a all a's lol
rell127 3 years ago
and the girls should also learn to be moral
a girl who shows morality is respected by everyone
males who sexually harrass regardless of the morality of the women are not true men
a true man respects all woman
and keeps his distance from amoral women
Energyium 3 years ago
Amen. But that would mean that ten out of ten arent really men... (no rhyme intended)
BlackRavenStudios 3 years ago
i believe because one of my teachers seemed like perverts
Sako2400 3 years ago
i hate all my fucking pervy teachers
wwddae 3 years ago 2
wow :o
Dangerpksu 3 years ago
yay
r3w1 3 years ago