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  • The same people who own fortnum and mason also own primark

  • Since when is it inherently a 'good thing' to pay tax?And what ffs is a 'fair share' of tax. The UKuncut mob back the Sheriff of Nottingham, not Robin Hood! Minimise government, minimise taxes! Keep the thieving bastards off our backs and out of our lives. Government is pretty much organised crime. Government's waste our taxes on jobs for their mates, stupid wars and bailing out bankers. PS. Why aren't the UK Uncut mob demonstrating outside the Guardian Newspaper offices?They avoid UK tax too.

  • @blackamoor61 Spot on!  It should be so simple to have everyone think like you, and I would be happy to live here.

  • UK Uncut I love you you are all so thoughtful and smart and righteous! I'm joining UK Uncut and here's a video explaining why! /watch?v=WcSjCoGEgRE&

  • Politics aside, Fortnum and Mason charge £85 for a 'luxury' easter egg! I'd probably cause £1000s worth of damage if I went in, just by bumping into a shelf.

  • I don't understand how these company's are avoiding tax. Isn't it just simple enough to make them pay?

  • @SniperOnTheDot Avoiding is legal, so you can't make them pay. Businesses have enough to do worrying about how to stay competitive without getting their accounts department to look into how they can pay more tax. Evading is illegal.

  • @rorshak73 Lets look at these "LEGAL" avoidance techniques.

    Put all assets in your wife's name who has a caymen islands passport.

    Get registered as a charity,not as a attempt to make your world better but to rip off the economy

  • @portsanity I know you think that's naughty, but if you work on the assumption that business is inherently good (wealth creating) and government inherently bad (wealth destroying) - such actions are morally neutral at worst :-)

  • @rorshak73 Interesting assumption.

    But wealth is no indicator of good and bad

    The money put in offshore accounts and thus denied the tax man puts people out of work,increases the demand on the jobs that are available,which in turn lowers wages and effects workers rights.

    You may say that is morally neutral at worst but i say that is an attack on my standard of living and i am not going to just sit there and take it

  • @portsanity Wealth creation causes most of the positive outcomes in society (health, longevity, comfort, freedom) while wealth destruction the bad. Throughout history, the tax man has been seen rightly as a thief backed up by the might of the state; with international finance, the limits of the modern state's reach are exposed; we should be suspicious when politicians talk about international laws to 'totalitarianise' their power. Yeah, they (and the banks) wind me up, but govt's the worst.

  • @rorshak73 What about when people massacre people for wealth?

    I have no problem seeing the taxman as the thief,though in reality the tax man is only the middleman and it is the politicians who are the thieves when they spend your money on quangos,wars and building projects where nobody sees the value .

    The problem i have is when one part of society is obliged to pay taxes and friends of the government do not

  • @portsanity TBH I have very little argument with any of that. Oh dear, youtube protagonists end up in broad agreement, how boring ;-)

  • I take seven politicians from London and stand 'em all in line,

    Add an AK-47, a revolver, a nine,

    A MAC-11 and this oughtta solve this problem of mine,

    And that's a whole school of bullies shot up at one time.

  • @richiespeedisback U'd better hurry up, the benefit office closes in half an hour.

  • WHY DO PEOPLE NOT GET IT?

    THE FACT THERE ARE LOTS OF CUTS IS BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGAN

    billions being spent there yet the fucking papers do not seem to report on that fucking cunts

  • Alternative...? What alternative?? If we ask who has said that they will cut down tax avoidance (the focus of the video), and who has actually implemented those changes... the answer is the government - £1bn is going to be raised from the 2011 budget from cutting down tax avoidance. Have Labour actually offered an alternative? Fuck no.

  • Ironic how the majority of people on that sit in dont or have never paid any taxes.........

  • @dckitchen On the other hand, many are in further education and will ultimately go on to pay higher rates of tax.

  • @JoeTwerton Seems unlikely

  • @iLike2Holdem Why? I know plenty of high earning postgraduates who did no shortage of activism in their youth.

  • @JoeTwerton Lets hope ur right, we'll need someone to pay for the rest of thems benefits. And let me guess, the people u know work in the public services.

  • @JoeTwerton first off it is not a guarantee that people go to uni automatically will have higher salaries (however usually is the case) secondly come and sing that when you have actually paid tax - pot kettle black. I agree with the sentiment of the protest and i was at the first two demonstrating against education cuts and general mainstream lies and incompetence, however 18-25 year old students with no jobs or have never paid tax telling others to pay their taxes to me is just cringe.

  • @dckitchen Nobody said that all university will end up with higher salaries. I merely said that many of the protestors will. As for me, I have paid tax for years and years, working six days a week and starting each day at 5.30am in the morning. Some of these criticisms contain so many strawman and ad hominen arguments. The skills that students acquire will constitute a big part of our economy in the future and I think they have every right to protest against unjust social policy.

  • @JoeTwerton Was directed at the students with no jobs not paying taxes.. they have no moral right to complain about some one else allegedly not paying tax when most of them don't pay tax at all. I am a student and i have a job but i would never have the cheek to chant some else to pay thier taxes when i am so lucky that i dont have to pay tax at the moment (and did before uni). Mainstream parties are a joke nowadays and they are all the same cameron is selfish, clegg is a rat, ed is a joke

  • @dckitchen Oh well, we'll have to agree to differ then. I don't mind the students protesting. Our country needs students but obviously they can't pay tax until they find employment. However, a lot of students raise money for charity, do voluntary or part-time paid work, and raise awareness of important issues like this. Students have bank accounts, so the banks make a profit out of them too. I'm glad the students have helped to make UK Uncut happen so that other people can join in.

  • @JoeTwerton Yes i was at the the first couple of protests my self and agree education should be free however it is becoming 'cool' to protest which i dont like at all, also to have any effect on this stubborn government violence (unfortunately) is the best option to get your voice heard look at poll tax and look at g20 riots with the new proposed caps on bankers. To all those who voted tory- told you so.

  • Fuck the whole Marxist state.

  • Needs more Cowbell

  • of course being in debt is damaging but the scale of cuts is not helping the economy grow at all, quite the opposite - when the coalition govt came to power growth, if slowly, was returning, and there was decreasing unemployment. the government is acting as if age old economic problems like supply and demand don't exist - monetary policy alone cannot deal with this recession. you really think selling off all remaining assets and cutting corporate tax is the way to real growth?

  • @bobzilla211 So you think changing course now and causing the gilt markets to get scared and increase the intersest rates we borrow at is a good idea? We already pay £120 million in interest a day, shall we increase that to £200 million a day? We wont be running a budget surplus in until 2016 under this plan, when would you have us 2026? The time for a fiscal stimulus is over. Growth figures will come and go, but will always be healthier under this plan than any other.

  • sheep

  • Such a violent protest...

  • @DyerMedia no actually the protest was very peaceful the actions and demonstrations became some what violent

  • The fact that they're not demonstrating against first Gordon Brown, Bill Clinton and Alan Greenspan, and then against banks and corporations tells me these guys are politically and economically illiterate. Probably too much so to be eligible to vote IMHO.

  • @rorshak73 You absolutely penarse. You clearly haven't got a fecking clue about anything. Bloody politicans are just puppets mate.

  • @MrAshToast What is "penarse"? And do you think that the only explanation for someone holding a different view to you is "haven't got a fecking clue"? Because only I'm allowed to say that! Anyway, I don't find this 'politicians are all controlled by big business' analysis satisfactory at all - very one-dimensional. Thanks for your response :-)

  • "hi. i own tax dodging companies and greedy banks

    because of this demonstration i stop will dodging the millions in tax each year

    no longer will the public fund me. all it took was a group of people making noise and waving placcards to convince me to shell out millions of £ out of my own profits"

    lol...people are so dumb. get real Uncut

  • @Bladen12345 had it occured to you that maybe they're not protesting for philip green, they're trying to convince the government to take action on tax evading companies and individuals? the economy loses £95 billion a year to evasion, the cuts cost £81 billion over four years. you do the maths...

  • "We don't want cuts"

    "There is no money"

    "We don't want cuts!"

    "... THERE'S NO FUCKING MONEY"

    "But I'm a sheep who will always protest against the current government if it isn't going entirely my way, despite the fact we still have it a lot better than the high majority of countries in the world. The government ought to do what -I- want, even if I don't have the knowledge or understanding of what I'm protesting over. But if I protest, I can pretend that I know jack shit about economics etc."

  • @TalonWolf they're the sheep? rather than everyone who blindly accepts the government line that a deficit is somehow the most damaging thing to have in economics, despite the fact that we have growing inflation, growing unemployment, growing interest rates just around the corner, our international debt may even be downgraded - and no growth. austerity sure hasn't improved the place. don't be naive, of course there is money. how do you think they're paying for corporate tax cuts?

  • @bobzilla211 Do you think being over a trillion pounds in debt isn't damaging? Inflation may be increasing, but unemployment is expected to decrease and interest rates haven't changed for about 2 years and are at the lowest rates in the developed world at 0.5%. Whoever said Austerity would improve the place? Its not a choice its a necessity. See my posts below. U complain there's no growth, then about low corporate tax rates! That's the way we plan to increase growth, by encouraging business.

  • @iLike2Holdem if you think this is just about the deficit, you're naive.

    if it was they wouldn't have cut HMRC, which actually lost them money as every £1 invested is £6 for the public purse. if it was they would actually tackle tax evasion which could cover the cost of the cuts.

    as for interest rates, its only a matter of time - the BoE has said inflation could be as high as 5% in a few months, their chief economist recently advised an increase, and the City is betting on it.

  • @bobzilla211 This government is doing more to prevent tax evasion than any other before it, but don't pin ur hopes on that, I think total tax evasion comes to around £6 billion. But if its not all about the deficit then GOOD. Over the period of the Labour government Public sector spending has increased in real terms by over 25%, its completely unsustainable. Even after the cuts we are only going back to public sector spending at 2008!

  • @iLike2Holdem more to prevent tax evasion than any other before it? is that why they cut HMRC by 15%? which apart from meaning less tax is recovered, has the potential to cause a surge in avoidance? tax evasion just £6 billion? the official estimate of just simple avoidance is around £50 billion. that's forgetting the combined billions floating around in various offshore evasion schemes employed by companies and the super rich.

  • @iLike2Holdem of course, we both know who caused the recession - but even on the relatively trivial, moral point of bankers bonuses the coalition has claimed to be holding them to account while in reality protecting them and allowing them to continue operating as if it was 2006. In Europe, Tory MEPs have tried to block a ban on naked short selling, and tougher bank bonus legislation.

  • @TalonWolf Thank Christ someone here's not a moron.

  • 0:40 no cuts... no cuts? ok no cuts then the country can go bankrupt! stupid people need to study why we are cutting!

  • alternative what alternative? thislast labour lot got us intop this shambles and sold britain down the  river

  • Its idiots like this, acting in their own self interest, that got us into this mess. Remember the coalition is only trying to do what is best for the country.

  • Its the Labour Party who had a very large part to play in getting us into this mess, of over a trillion pounds of debt, we haven't run a budget surplus for over a decade, which obviously includes the good times as well as bad. Remember we are also running a budget deficit this year of over £140 billion and the country wont be running a budget surplus, which we can then use to start paying off the debt until 2016/2017.

  • If the government changes track now the gilt markets will react, and react badly, increasing the rate we borrow from 3.5% to much higher, maybe even as high as Greece, Ireland and Portugal who pay over 10%. We pay £120 million a day in interest already! They want us to pay even more to pay for there wages and perks, like long holidays, huge redundancy packages and pensions.  And taxing rich people wont raise more tax, maybe even less. History has proved this just leads to greater tax evasion.

  • haha i saw that horse in camberwell green in the morning :D

  • These people have no answers only a personal interest in causing trouble, so normal people have to pay more tax to fund the Public sectors waste and over pay.

  • The unions are not interested in the working people of Britain, only their over paid public service working members. They are only interested in protecting their members so they can protect their wages. Below is a list of Union leaders salaries in 08/09

    Dave Prentis - Unison - £127,436

    Christine Blower - NUT - £124,483

    Derek Simpson - Unite - £120,328

    Matt Wrack - Fire Brigades Union - £115,804

    Bob Crow - RMT - £105,679

  • @iLike2Holdem Thats all? Only a hundred thousand? Oh please. Bitch more when you see the amount of money made by the top 1% of the entire world's population. Fuck, in the US alone, .01% of the population is making over $30,000,000, INDIVIDUALLY! I may not no much about Britian, but income inequality is a huge fucking problem, but hey, pay no attention to the elephant in the room.

  • @xchainlinkx "income inequality is a huge fucking problem" I suggest you get the fuck up off your lazy ass and earn some money then thief.

  • @iLike2Holdem

    Well said, and nice to hear some honesty! :)

  • @iLike2Holdem F&M are no better than benefit thieves .

    They benefit from services that we have paid for,police,roads,street lighting,ambulances,firebrigad­e,prisons

  • 1:04 Union of shop,Distributive and Allied Workers banner ...not UK Uncut! By the way I hope this was not filmed on a vodafone mobile?!

  • I like this video :-).

  • Can someone call a Waaaaaaaambulance for BeeRich33? - c/o Gadaffi towers, Tripoli.

  • Morons. Your country has no money and you want them to pony up so you can fingerpaint? And somehow private stores owe you something? Bunch of freeloading idiots. Get a job.

  • @BeeRich33 You're misunderstanding of what happening in Britain right now is appalling, so much so that you really shouldn't be making stupid and outdated viewpoints of things you know nothing of.

    To be brief,

    these companies have evaded billions of pounds of tax that are crucial to the economy right now and to make up for that, the government have cut thousands upon thousands of jobs in the public sector. If you think that is fair then you have no compassion and are a gigantic prick.

  • @dustyisprang 1. I understand a hell of a lot more about this than you think. 2. "Evaded"? By doing your simple math of pushing a percentage upon sales? Get educated. 3. Compassion? You morons attacked a company that DOES earn a lot of tax for your country. It seems you are the prick for attacking those that provide more than you do.

    Get your head out of your ass, you idiot. Then, get a fuckin job.

  • @BeeRich33 Hold on, I'm not part of UkUncut but I admire them for their peaceful but direct methods of protest. They didn't attack any part of the shop; they merely occupied it in a non malicious way.

    The shop they occupied was Fortnum & Wason which is part of Whittington Investments who evade 10 million pounds worth of tax a year. That money is very needful in this recession. When you add this together with the other tax evading shops on most high streets, it clocks up to a massive sum.

  • @dustyisprang Nice words. Sorry they aren't true. Hey I can make up words as well. Perhaps you should review what happened. Legally avoiding tax is not tax evasion. It's proper management. Every dollar they don't spend on taxes goes towards building a stronger company that employs people, hires companies all over the UK, whilst generating taxes through retail transactions. They also are a very generous organization. They owe you absolutely nothing. You are a freeloader. Done.

  • @BeeRich33

    They see you trollin', they hatin'.

  • Solidarity from the US!

  • great vid!

  • all of egypt support u

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  • Brilliant peaceful effective action. UKUncut you rock!

  • @eurobob512 If you can read, go read the news. It wasn't peaceful. This video is evidence of welfare boobs in a private store.

  • Good job UK UnCut:)

  • Well done!

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