Should the gospel be in every sermon?

[2timothy23]

I definitely respect the men speaking here (despite some questionable associations Piper and Rick Warren have because I'm not sure of the extent of it), but I find when I teach from the Bible at the end of class or during it I get many questions that bring it back to the Gospel. Not so much to evangelize, but to remind the believer the doctrines and dynamics of it that are central to the Christian life. The nature of sinful man and God are wrapped in the Gospel and it helps to go back there.

[changeishere2008]

Calvinism is a mental sickness and a perversion of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[bbbclassics]

@changeishere2008 That's about the most ignorant thing anyone can say. The majority of the signers of the Declaration were Calvinists, or if you go back a bit in history, Augustinian, from whence the Reformation emerged. Those were the people who built the Republic of the United States. People like you tear it down to "majority democracy". Now we even have the "evangelical left" like Rick Warren, Tony Campolo & so forth.

[TheAmazingamerica]

Are there any Noahides here?

[StrumstickJoe]

To answer the title question: No - you should not be quoting the gospel, and you should not be preaching a sermon.

Who do you think you are to assume the rights of judgement?

Leave people be. Your religious nonsense does more harm than good.

The world can do without your wars and campaigns.

Thankyou. Go in peace.

[HermitintheRain]

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

What moves a preacher? It is what moves all who are born of God: Jesus Christ. What is the work of the Spirit-to reveal Christ. Without Christ in what we do, we become religious Pharisees who know nothing of Christ.

[HermitintheRain]

Those who are called to preach do not need to make any effort to forge Christ into the sermon. Those who are called to teach need not to look for a way to put Christ in the center of the instruction. Those who are truly called, truly saved, are unable to do anything but point to Christ in all that they say or do. They are unable to deviate from the fact that in all that they share of the word, that it is Jesus who is the way, the truth and the life in all of it.

[jedribit]

This really concerns me because many non-Christian visitors coming into the Church, come being convicted by God’s Holy Spirit. What an opportunity this is for the Church to help them, but too often,if they don’t find what they are looking for, on that one Sunday Morning, then we may never see them again.They need to know every Sun., that we are always here ready to help them understand why God's Holy Spirit is tugging on their heart and help them know how they should respond to this,His call.

[HermitintheRain]

@jedribit Let your heart not be too troubled my friend. The Holy Spirit who is saving that sinner will not fail to save that sinner because of some derelict church. The Lord will not fail to find each and every one of his sheep. If need be, the Lord will bring someone alongside a chariot on a lonesome road to use to open their heart to the gospel, just as he did with Phillip with that Ethiopian eunuch. The Lord will not fail to save his own. Hallelujah to the LORD God Almighty.

[changeishere2008]

@jedribit

You're so right but men want to share in God's Glory. Preachers preach with an agenda. They are more interested in seeing membership growth than a man or a women coming to Jesus . The Gospel can not be compromised.

[jedribit]

@changeishere2008 2 Tim:3-5 "You're going to find that there will be times when people will have no

stomach for solid teaching, but will fill up on spiritual junk food-catchy

opinions that tickle their fancy. They'll turn their backs on truth and

chase mirages. But you-keep your eye on what you're doing; accept the hard

times along with the good; keep the Message alive; do a thorough job as

God's servant." Our best intentions have taken over. Seems nobody wants to wait on God any more.

[firecorona]

So, does Piper and Chandler believe in the Great Commission?

[wedge2006]

@firecorona Of course they do.

[ksummers07]

isnt the church a body of Believers?

[jesusfreakrkg]

@ksummers07 yes. and the body of believers need the gospel just as much as nonbelievers. 

[broknprism]

Do I see empty seats in this conference? That's actually encouraging to me. Every time I scroll past a cable channel featuring a famous charismatic woman preacher, I see she has PACKED a massive stadium-sized auditorium. (Joyce Meyer, that's who it is -- just remembered.) Wide gates. Narrow gates. Just saying.

[unclebrian7807]

Rockyrok,

It doesn't sound like it but I meant it as "wow! Aint' God cool!" I'm a member of Matt's church.  Love him. didn't mean anything negative, just thought it was a great contrast.

[5minutesofgrace]

hambone...you could not have expressed it better :)

[hambone425]

The pastor is supposed to equip the saints and then the saints go out and preach the gospel.

[cross805]

To Xianhedonist:

That is a tremendously weak statement. As if the conversion of the elect is dependent upon the preacher commanding people to believe. Utter nonsense. God is Sovereign, Great, Mighty, and Good. No mortal man has the power to foil the plans and purposes of our Perfect Lord. John Piper is one of the great expositors of our time...maybe ever.

[christianman73]

My question here is, why should a pastor *not* preach the Gospel in every sermon? Of course, it is God who saves. No one (that I am aware of) is saying that sinful men can save other sinful men. However, God saves through the preaching of the Gospel. If God's holiness is clear from every page of the Bible (and it is), then our sin and need for a Savior are also clear from every page of the Bible, to those who read with a Christocentric view of Scripture. Therefore, the Gospel is needed.

[rockyrock]

I don't believe that we should ever grow tired or complacent with the Gospel. However, I do believe that scripture defines "the Church" as the universal body of the believers. I believe that the local church is a small manifestation of that, and as such, the Gospel should be preached when the Spirit leads. The church is for believers but it is also a great tool for evangelism. The Holy Spirit saves, not a preacher, and will save those he chooses and when.

[fruitofspirit]

Strong statement, agreed on all counts.

[Xianhedonist]

I did not say that conversion depended on the preacher's power to convert, but no clear reading of Romans 10 could lead you to deny the essential need for the gospel to be preached in order for people to believe. God has ordained who will be saved and precisely the means by which they will be saved. The means is through hearing the word and believing. I think your statement is weak, and I fear it might betray a misunderstanding of Calvinism, God's sovereignty, and the dynamics of conversion.

[Xianhedonist]

It seems you may have also fallen into the trap of believing that the gospel is for beginners. The gospel is for all the elect until they die and is one of the means by which faith is nurtured and sustained, i.e. regularly reading and hearing and apprehending anew the truth and all-satisfying worth of Christ in the gospel.

[Xianhedonist]

I agree that Piper is a great expositor, but he has tremendous flaws as a preacher like the under-appreciation of the OT evidenced by the fact that he almost never preaches from it. This is coming from a man who named his daughter after Piper, but I am not so enamored with a human being that I cannot be critical of him when he's wrong.

[unclebrian7807]

Dr. John Piper, PhD Univ. of Munich.

Dr. Michael Oh, Ph.D and degrees 2 Ivy League schools.

Matt Chandler, BA in the middle. He didn't even go to the biggest school in Abilene, TX

[rockyrock]

Hey Uncle Brian,

Do me a favor and remind me which universities Matthew, Luke, Mark, Titus, Silas, Barnabas, John, Peter, and James went to. Paul had a Pharisaical education, and Matthew and other Jews that became believers were raised on Old Testament scripture, but none of these men had degrees in Christ's ability to redeem, sanctify, and glorify us. The did have the Holy Spirit guiding them as the taught and led, and I believe Matt Chandler does as well, albeit in a lesser degree.

[clymerguy]

"enough of the gospel in the hymns"?God didn't give us a hymn, He gave us a Bible

[SkiAltaSnowbird]

Yeah but the bible inspires sermons and hymns chief

[clymerguy]

The gospel just doesn't apply to evengelism. It applies to every aspect of the Christian life from justification to glorification. "for the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men teaching us that denying ungodliness and wordly lusts we should live soberly and righteously in this present generation"

[YoungCalvinist08]

Personally I like their answers. If you are preaching through the Bible, not every passage is evangelistic. We may lift the person and work of Jesus, but does that mean it is to be INHERENTLY evangelistic? Not necessarily...

[tff345]

I would say that any judgment on these answers would be unfair. We didn't hear the question and how the person phrased it. I know that in nearly all, if not all, of Chandler's messages, he comes back to the cross. The Gospel IS CENTRAL to what he preaches. You'd just have to listen to him. I haven't listened to much Piper though.

[Xianhedonist]

I think a pastor should preach the gospel in every sermon and command people to believe like the Bible does. To think that in every service several are lost, but you just "pointed them toward Christ". What's that? Preach the gospel. Take a page out of Spurgeon here please Piper and Chandler.

[rockyrock]

The Holy Spirit saves, not Matt Chandler, John Piper, or Charles Spurgeon. When the apostles were speaking to members of the Church, that meant they were speaking to believers. Instead of continually presenting the Gospel, they spoke to the needs of the people. They presented the Gospel when necessary. Now, in the local church, we preach scripture to believers, and the Gospel when the Spirit leads. I think we should be taking pages out of the books of Paul more often than those of Spurgeon.

[pcusacom]

So, what is the gospel? I'm hearing the term, 'the gospel' on these videos, but none of them say what it is?

[hylion527]

"Gospel" simply means "the good news". When you hear someone saying the gospel in reference to Biblical teaching, it's talking about Jesus dying for our sin so that we could be justified before God.

[cougarsrule45]

watch the video "The Gospel in Six Minutes" it tells you the technical definition, but to supplement that watch the short video "John Piper's God Exalting Grammer" because he really makes it clear what faith is, or better yet watch those two sermons

[TheWoodsofJordan]

Praise God!

[jesusthankyou]

thanks God for this channel, Im favoriting so much of these videos, ima stop/.

[gzus777]

Amen.