This could explain that Skåne and Bornholm were influenced by west-germanics, and that´s why Zealandic sounds so different from them. This may have led the danes to momentarily to split up in the third and fourth c. It could be them that were called "halfdanes". And since it was also the richest and mightiest part, the name Halfdan became a prestigious name.. The heruls might also have been chased away to south Norway. And that might explain the similarity in accent to low-german and Skåne..
@alarik36 Bornholm along with Scania and Blekinge were "East Danes" before. Their dialect were different from the Southern danes and that doesnt mean any huge immigration towards those places by a foreign people took place. Today all over Sweden we have different dialects but we are all the same still.
Halland maybe, but at least Skåne and Bornholm regarded themselves as danes. In Beowulf danish king of the shieldings is situated in Scedenige, undoubtedly Skadiney-later Skáney and Skåne. The chapter in Beowulf about Finn, Hnef and Hingest suggests that something serious happened in the 3d century AD. The danish king and hi´s men were unexpectedly ambushed while visiting jutish king Finn to extract tax etc. Jutes, frisians and other westgermanics were promised to freely trade and settle on..
At this time many västgötajewels were dug down in the 6th c, and were later found at Ålleberg, Möne(Brisingamen/Brosingamene) the goddess Freja´s necklace. All close to old defencefortresses. Halleberg is believed to Hreosnabeorh(rockslidemountain). Old name is Hall, some says that this is Valhall. Also the gepids(Settling in N Poland and maybe S Ukraine) as the geats came from Västergötland ackording to Ingemar Nordgren. Modern representatives for this region is the musicgroup Timoteij.
@Mannerheimer I think if a herulic warriorclass ruled over the Swions, and they spoke west-germanic for a couple of generations in the 6th-6th century, then it´s natural, that they kept close contact with anglians, frisians and jutes. They understood their language and they got ideas from eachother. Procopios says that heruls went over to Thule, and with ships borrowed from the danes sailed over and settled next to the geats..The helmets from Vendel, Valsgärde to be roman cavalryhelmets..
@alarik36 How do you know that they spoke West Germanic? The Runes from that era are Pre-Norse, And i think there have been more of this kind of findings in the region of Uppland than there have been in Sutton hoo. Roman cavalry helmet.. lol. Sounds more like confusing ideas from a small group of Liberal historian with the only purpose of making Swedish history be just as multicultural as todays Sweden. The Norse sagas never brought up anything about them being foreigners.
@joonte1010 There are strange ideas in the Edda that the Asa gods came all the way from Asia to the nordic lands. This could reflect ancient memories of people like the heruls coming from the Black sea bringing customs often with hunnic influences like schamanism, horseculture etc. Some finds like the Sösdala, Vennebofinds are believed to have hunnic influences with sacrficed riding gear..etc.. Besides that I am not positive to multiculturalism, which means that we supress our own culture..
@alarik36 The Asa gods are said to have originated from "Turkey" in a time far before the people we know as "turks" arrived there (The turks arrived to Turkey in the 9th Century). Turkey back then might have been populated by tribes of Greece Origin. Which might explain why so many of us in Sweden today carry the Nordic Genes I1, The I1 haplogroups closest relative in the world are the Greece and Ancient Greece haplogroups J1 And J2.
@joonte1010 According to Snorre, Odin and his people was driven away from their homelands by the Romans. Thor Heyerdahl has written a book based upon Snorre´s theory. And he find it likely that Azerbaijan was Odins homeland. Azer - Æser...and so on. There are many similarities. This is of course a theory, and he is no historian. But his book is very interesting. He also conects Odin and his people to old Troy, and that after it fell they settled in Azerbaijan.
@BirkaViking And among them i guess Thor Heyerdahl is one of them. He dosent claim Odin was greek, but that Odins ancestors were of Troy. Ill check out your link. Why the hell do we write in english? :P
@BirkaViking Haha, for prova at skriva på svenska. Jag sa inte als noget om kulturen. Hvad jag sa var at det tuvär inte finnas tilstrekeligt med monga kilder om de germanska stammarna i Norden. Bara nogre få som av Jordanes och lignande. Samt det vi har av arkeologisk material. Men kildane e ikke monga. Folkvandrings tiden e jo mycket interessant. Håppas du kan lesa min svenska =P
@alarik36 Its an interesting theory thou, But i doubt it. If they left their ancestral homelands to find a new place to settle the obvious place to settle down would be in Norway,Denmark,The Netherlands or somewhere in the baltic. Not all the way up through the baltic sea to todays Uppland. Some of the Findings in Sutton hoo were made in Sweden btw (Thats what the historians belivie anyway). There is another theory, That the Anglo saxon king would have been raised in Sweden.
@alarik36 (Wikipedia) "A possible explanation for such connections lies in the well-attested northern custom by which the children of leading men were often raised away from home by a distinguished friend or relative A future East Anglian king, whilst being fostered in Sweden, could have acquired high quality objects and made contact with armourers, before returning to East Anglia to rule."
@Mannerheimer I think a guy called Sören Tallholm says that something happens in the 6th century. Lars Gahrn seems to have similar thoughts, that Uppsala öd, a royal goverment. The whole Mälar valley is reorganized with a central power. Names like Rickeby and Rinkeby turns up. Rinc is a westgermanic word meaning "trained warrior, mercenary" etc. The Järsberg stone at the old language between swions and geats says : Leubaz am I called. Hrafn am I called. I, the eril, write the runes.
Great, fantastic! You´re an artist.. I wish you would make a program for Uppakra. Uppåkra IS the main place depicted in Beowulf. They now have plans to make 3-D models for people to see and even so people can experience ancient times through 3-D glasses and walk through historical monuments, houses and environments. The megalithic dolmen from 0,25 is probably Gillhög, at least 5000-5500 years old, the sun shines into the gravechamber once a year at midwintersolstice.
Norwegian-Swedish mutual animosity. it probably will never fade away. ..total Brotherhood-Sisterhood could make Norway and Sweden a single strong nation, but, as we all know, some twit will start an argument, and everything would fall apart again. such is the nothern aggressive mind! .i think we should start listening to those sensible peaceful Buddhist's!
@Mannerheimer Hehe ok, well if so they are very alone of this and this have probably with some now a day political climate rather then anything else to do.
@Mannerheimer The foundings from the Vendel area are enormous so the place it self has given its name for this time era in Sweden called the Vendel age.
The I also know that the Sutton Hoo sword are made in the Sweden area.. I saw this recently at BBC. You can look for the Saxons, Vikings and Monsters documentary here at youtube for more info.
Great video ! Tack för en underbar presenation som SVT skulle göra men vågar aldrig.
NefeliDanai 4 months ago 4
@NefeliDanai Man tackar för dina fina ord :)
Kan du Svenska? Har du varit i Sverige?
BirkaViking 4 months ago
@BirkaViking Ja ! då kan jag lite.. Keep up the good work !
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@NefeliDanai Oh ok I see :)
Well thanks again for your nice words :)
Cheers from Sweden
BirkaViking 3 months ago
Amazing video! Thank you!
ImperialGuard9001 4 months ago
@ImperialGuard9001 Thanks man that you liked the video :)
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BirkaViking 4 months ago
Thanks for the video!
SlazerlentonTV 4 months ago
Cool video.
Tack!
WesternPAdude 4 months ago
This could explain that Skåne and Bornholm were influenced by west-germanics, and that´s why Zealandic sounds so different from them. This may have led the danes to momentarily to split up in the third and fourth c. It could be them that were called "halfdanes". And since it was also the richest and mightiest part, the name Halfdan became a prestigious name.. The heruls might also have been chased away to south Norway. And that might explain the similarity in accent to low-german and Skåne..
alarik36 4 months ago
@alarik36 Bornholm along with Scania and Blekinge were "East Danes" before. Their dialect were different from the Southern danes and that doesnt mean any huge immigration towards those places by a foreign people took place. Today all over Sweden we have different dialects but we are all the same still.
joonte1010 4 months ago
Halland maybe, but at least Skåne and Bornholm regarded themselves as danes. In Beowulf danish king of the shieldings is situated in Scedenige, undoubtedly Skadiney-later Skáney and Skåne. The chapter in Beowulf about Finn, Hnef and Hingest suggests that something serious happened in the 3d century AD. The danish king and hi´s men were unexpectedly ambushed while visiting jutish king Finn to extract tax etc. Jutes, frisians and other westgermanics were promised to freely trade and settle on..
alarik36 4 months ago
At this time many västgötajewels were dug down in the 6th c, and were later found at Ålleberg, Möne(Brisingamen/Brosingamene) the goddess Freja´s necklace. All close to old defencefortresses. Halleberg is believed to Hreosnabeorh(rockslidemountain). Old name is Hall, some says that this is Valhall. Also the gepids(Settling in N Poland and maybe S Ukraine) as the geats came from Västergötland ackording to Ingemar Nordgren. Modern representatives for this region is the musicgroup Timoteij.
alarik36 4 months ago
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alarik36 4 months ago
@Mannerheimer I think if a herulic warriorclass ruled over the Swions, and they spoke west-germanic for a couple of generations in the 6th-6th century, then it´s natural, that they kept close contact with anglians, frisians and jutes. They understood their language and they got ideas from eachother. Procopios says that heruls went over to Thule, and with ships borrowed from the danes sailed over and settled next to the geats..The helmets from Vendel, Valsgärde to be roman cavalryhelmets..
alarik36 4 months ago
@alarik36 How do you know that they spoke West Germanic? The Runes from that era are Pre-Norse, And i think there have been more of this kind of findings in the region of Uppland than there have been in Sutton hoo. Roman cavalry helmet.. lol. Sounds more like confusing ideas from a small group of Liberal historian with the only purpose of making Swedish history be just as multicultural as todays Sweden. The Norse sagas never brought up anything about them being foreigners.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 There are strange ideas in the Edda that the Asa gods came all the way from Asia to the nordic lands. This could reflect ancient memories of people like the heruls coming from the Black sea bringing customs often with hunnic influences like schamanism, horseculture etc. Some finds like the Sösdala, Vennebofinds are believed to have hunnic influences with sacrficed riding gear..etc.. Besides that I am not positive to multiculturalism, which means that we supress our own culture..
alarik36 4 months ago
@alarik36 The Asa gods are said to have originated from "Turkey" in a time far before the people we know as "turks" arrived there (The turks arrived to Turkey in the 9th Century). Turkey back then might have been populated by tribes of Greece Origin. Which might explain why so many of us in Sweden today carry the Nordic Genes I1, The I1 haplogroups closest relative in the world are the Greece and Ancient Greece haplogroups J1 And J2.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@joonte1010 According to Snorre, Odin and his people was driven away from their homelands by the Romans. Thor Heyerdahl has written a book based upon Snorre´s theory. And he find it likely that Azerbaijan was Odins homeland. Azer - Æser...and so on. There are many similarities. This is of course a theory, and he is no historian. But his book is very interesting. He also conects Odin and his people to old Troy, and that after it fell they settled in Azerbaijan.
tordengud 2 weeks ago
@tordengud There are some that think that Odin was a Greek that settled here in Sweden.
For more info about this you can see :
The Story of Odin
Here at youtube. Cheers
BirkaViking 2 weeks ago
@BirkaViking And among them i guess Thor Heyerdahl is one of them. He dosent claim Odin was greek, but that Odins ancestors were of Troy. Ill check out your link. Why the hell do we write in english? :P
tordengud 2 weeks ago
@tordengud Haha ja säg det lol
BirkaViking 2 weeks ago
@BirkaViking Det er synd det er så lite historiske kilder på de germanske stammene i Skandinavia. Noen kilder er det jo, men ikke tilstrekkelig.
tordengud 2 weeks ago
@tordengud Nu förstår jag inte riktigt vad du menar?
De Germanska stammarna i skandinavien har en väldigt indentisk kultur för (nord germansk kultur) och det är väll inget dåligt i det?
BirkaViking 2 weeks ago
@BirkaViking Haha, for prova at skriva på svenska. Jag sa inte als noget om kulturen. Hvad jag sa var at det tuvär inte finnas tilstrekeligt med monga kilder om de germanska stammarna i Norden. Bara nogre få som av Jordanes och lignande. Samt det vi har av arkeologisk material. Men kildane e ikke monga. Folkvandrings tiden e jo mycket interessant. Håppas du kan lesa min svenska =P
tordengud 2 weeks ago
@tordengud Haha lol jag trodde du menade skillnader :)
Ja vi ska dock inte glömma bort runstenarna som faktist beskriver en del de också.
Du kan ju ta dig en titt på min Rökstens video :)
Ja det finns inte allt för många källor osv men Jordanes beskrivning stämmer väldigt bra faktist.
BirkaViking 2 weeks ago
@BirkaViking Jeg skal ta en titt på den ;)
tordengud 2 weeks ago
@alarik36 Its an interesting theory thou, But i doubt it. If they left their ancestral homelands to find a new place to settle the obvious place to settle down would be in Norway,Denmark,The Netherlands or somewhere in the baltic. Not all the way up through the baltic sea to todays Uppland. Some of the Findings in Sutton hoo were made in Sweden btw (Thats what the historians belivie anyway). There is another theory, That the Anglo saxon king would have been raised in Sweden.
joonte1010 4 months ago
@alarik36 (Wikipedia) "A possible explanation for such connections lies in the well-attested northern custom by which the children of leading men were often raised away from home by a distinguished friend or relative A future East Anglian king, whilst being fostered in Sweden, could have acquired high quality objects and made contact with armourers, before returning to East Anglia to rule."
joonte1010 4 months ago
@Mannerheimer I think a guy called Sören Tallholm says that something happens in the 6th century. Lars Gahrn seems to have similar thoughts, that Uppsala öd, a royal goverment. The whole Mälar valley is reorganized with a central power. Names like Rickeby and Rinkeby turns up. Rinc is a westgermanic word meaning "trained warrior, mercenary" etc. The Järsberg stone at the old language between swions and geats says : Leubaz am I called. Hrafn am I called. I, the eril, write the runes.
alarik36 4 months ago
watch?v=KFINevgDJns&feature=channel_video_title
alarik36 4 months ago
Great, fantastic! You´re an artist.. I wish you would make a program for Uppakra. Uppåkra IS the main place depicted in Beowulf. They now have plans to make 3-D models for people to see and even so people can experience ancient times through 3-D glasses and walk through historical monuments, houses and environments. The megalithic dolmen from 0,25 is probably Gillhög, at least 5000-5500 years old, the sun shines into the gravechamber once a year at midwintersolstice.
alarik36 4 months ago
@alarik36 Thanks for your very nice words :)
Yeah Uppåkra would be very nice to do a video about but you need to film the model with a cam to do so.
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Utmerket video !
Takk min venn!! SkåL ! :)
daupike 4 months ago
@daupike Man tackar :)
Och skål ifrån Sverige
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Nice informative and interesting clip. As usuall. Maybe you should make some historical blog or something, lol
ssnakessnake2 4 months ago
@ssnakessnake2 Thanks man :)
Hehe no blog for I dont have the time for it :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
S K Å L / НАЗДРАВЉЕ !!!!
GREETINGS FROM SERBIA !!!
MegaMikss 4 months ago
@MegaMikss Skål and Cheers from Sweden:)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Great contribution...
cubrick2001 4 months ago
@cubrick2001 Thanks man :)
Cheers from Sweden
BirkaViking 4 months ago
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Good job my friend ;D
Skål !
Giallahorn 4 months ago
Jeg Elsker video !! Heil odinn !!
WikingNordlan 4 months ago
@WikingNordlan Man tackar:)
Skål
BirkaViking 4 months ago
That's really great thanks for share ... HAIL... !,,!
RITERAMETAL 4 months ago
@RITERAMETAL Thanks man :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Very well done, congratulations, thank you so much for sharing it.
zelflorizel 4 months ago
@zelflorizel Thanks that you liked the video :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Flippin' awesome! You've done it again! You can't make a bad video......anything of your making AND Hans Zimmer is fantastisk!
Hej då!
steverid 4 months ago
@steverid Thanks for your kind words :)
Cheers from Sweden
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Awesome video!!
shadelcassian66 4 months ago
@shadelcassian66 Thanks my friend :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
wow you really became an expert with making videos... very proffesional :) great and informative video... and music :)
CroPETROforever 4 months ago
@CroPETROforever Thanks man that you liked the video :)
I really like your videos also :) And thanks for all the tip :)
Cheers my friend
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Excellent my brother...the soul of the ancestors is proud
sawyers145 4 months ago
@sawyers145 Thanks man :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Norwegian-Swedish mutual animosity. it probably will never fade away. ..total Brotherhood-Sisterhood could make Norway and Sweden a single strong nation, but, as we all know, some twit will start an argument, and everything would fall apart again. such is the nothern aggressive mind! .i think we should start listening to those sensible peaceful Buddhist's!
acerb45666555 4 months ago
I've added it to my favorites
siriusstar10000 4 months ago
@siriusstar10000 Thanks :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
GREATTTTT,,,,,,,,It was really well done clip, thanks for sharing
Sina2500 4 months ago
@Sina2500 Thanks that you liked the video.
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Keep them coming kola.
WindsNature 4 months ago
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good job!
cheers from Poland
nihonjin19 4 months ago
good job!
cheers from Poland
nihonjin19 4 months ago
Excellent video! And great music!
Wulfia1 4 months ago
@Wulfia1 Thanks :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Superb work, as always!! Really makes the battle-blood rise!!
One of my favorite Vendel-Era books is "Hrolf Kraki's Saga" by Poul Anderson, and tells much of Adhils in later years.
rattinox 4 months ago
@rattinox Thanks that you liked the video :)
Yeah its an intresting time era.
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Your videos are excellent ! Very interesting and much information . Great music and yes I just love the Norse history ! Skål !!!
narutofreak12312312 4 months ago
@narutofreak12312312 Thanks for the nice words :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
@Mannerheimer Hehe ok, well if so they are very alone of this and this have probably with some now a day political climate rather then anything else to do.
But that is a different subject.
BirkaViking 4 months ago
@Mannerheimer The foundings from the Vendel area are enormous so the place it self has given its name for this time era in Sweden called the Vendel age.
The I also know that the Sutton Hoo sword are made in the Sweden area.. I saw this recently at BBC. You can look for the Saxons, Vikings and Monsters documentary here at youtube for more info.
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Nice upload, thumb up from me.
Zorro11144 4 months ago
@Zorro11144 Thanks man :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
very well done, thanks for sharing this :)
conor845 4 months ago
@conor845 Thanks man for your kind words :)
Cheers from Sweden
BirkaViking 4 months ago
@Mannerheimer Thanks :) I have never heard about that and I am sure its not true either.
Cheers
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Thank you for this great video!
Pilaeus 4 months ago
@Pilaeus Thanks :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Imagine living back then.
SnyderRon 4 months ago
always a pleasure to take in your presentations!!!
EasternGateGuardian 4 months ago
Great Video!
LaagRaetia 4 months ago
well done amigo !
BartjeOstend 4 months ago
Very well done!! Thank you!
Odinshird 4 months ago
@Odinshird Thanks :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
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Very well done!! Thank you!
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Very well done!! Thank you!
Odinshird 4 months ago
Very well done!! Thank you!
Odinshird 4 months ago
Great work!
Odinshird 4 months ago
Splendid!
Oswulf1 5 months ago
@Oswulf1 Thanks :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Excellent video indeed, thank you for your effort!!
Freawulf 5 months ago
Well made! =)
Nortrix87 5 months ago
Grym video! Väldigt bra!
Jag bor precis intill sjön Vänern också :)
TheKvicken 5 months ago
@TheKvicken Man tackar :)
Jasså bor du precis vid sjön :)
Skål
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Bra jobbat!
IcyViking 5 months ago
@IcyViking Man tackar :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Excellent
StyrbjornStarke 5 months ago
@StyrbjornStarke Thanks :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
Nice Video!
Otroligt välgjord!
joonte1010 5 months ago
@joonte1010 Tack igen :)
BirkaViking 4 months ago
....EXCELLENT!
jettbugg 5 months ago
@jettbugg Thanks man :)
Cheers
BirkaViking 5 months ago