Shame Peter Doucheberg and his denialists still continue to have exposure - and they continue to the cause the deaths of millions who listen to their lies.
@RamekGreen QUICK!!! Mark this as "spam" too so nobody can see it :P
Did she die of "aids"? Nooo....she died after being on FDA Black box labelled chemo drugs for 11 YEARS then being blacklisted by her Drs when she refused to take them any more. She almost bled to death FOUR times and her Drs stood by and did nothing.
@RamekGreen Lemonrind says the reason ALL my replies get marked as "spam" and he gets loads of thumbs ups is because of the guys at Digg. What do YOU think?
@RamekGreen Oh and...Dr Al Bayati is NOT a vet. That is just another bald faced lie from the virus of mass destruction cult. Try checking out all the many HUMAN cases he worked on where he qualified to give an expert opinion in courts of law. He was also on "Investigation Discovery At the End of a Rope" which aired in Feb 2012
Duh! Lol....QUICK!!! Mark this as "spam" too so nobody can see it!!!
@marz054 If sockpuppet freaks didn't work sooo hard at censoring comments you would know how she died. Of "aids"? No.
Gee...I wonder if "the guys from Digg" will be marking this comment as "spam" too? They really really don't seem to like it when people reply to any comments on this video.In fact if you hit "see all" comments it's pretty obvious what "they" get up to.
Lol....I wonder if "the guys from Digg" will censor this comment too?
@qpmatt yes. It's terrible they way she was treated by her "Drs" She was on FDA Black Box labelled CHEMO drugs for over 11 YEARS. Then she was blacklisted by her Drs when she refused to keep swallowing that poisonous crap. She almost bled to death FOUR times and they stood by and did nothing to help her.
Who wouldn't die after being "treated" like that :(
WOW....ALL my replies to that guy get marked as "spam" almost immediately. Lol...I guess that guy must be right...the guys at Digg really REALLY don't like it when I reply to him :P
Lol...hit "see all" comments. That twat keeps playing with sockpuppets to mark my replies to him as "spam" I don't see how that's going to stop the lawsuits but there you go....there's just no logic with virus of mass destruction cultists. A LOT of them are facing HUGE lawsuits.
"when asked to prove the reliability of HIV testing, prosecutors abruptly reduced their offer of 15 years in state prison to five days of unsupervised probation.
Several months later, Magdalena Mays was arrested on similar charges. But like the Torres case, prosecutors dropped their HIV-related complaint against her."
Those tests do NOT hold up in court. Period. Game over. Let the lawsuits commence!!
6 Feb - When Ganesh Prasad was diagnosed HIV positive in 2010, his initial emotions ranged from shock to disbelief. The next nine months were filled with fear and exasperation as the 38-year-old was needlessly thrust upon death’s doorstep.
Lol....hit "see all" comments. I'm sure it's just a coinkidink but my replies to that twat have been marked as "spam" so nobody can see them.
What is with idiots playing with sockpuppets on youtube? Why the censorship? Ha...because they have no case and the lawsuits over this fraud are going to be HUGE!
i QUIT TAKING MEDS AND i AM FINE LIVING OKAY WITH NOTHING SERIOUS ON MY BODY..BEFORE i WAS A WALKING DEAD MAN, NOW i AM BACK TO MYSELF AND MUCH HAPPIER, i AM FINE! IF YOU WANNA KNOW MY DIET, JUST ASK ME. IT´S MAKING ME WONDERS BUT YOU GOTTA BE VERY DEDICATED. CHIN UP POZIES!
AIDS is not a disease, it's just a name given to a huge basket of different disease when associated to a positiv HIV test. HIV is irrelevant. Just treat your specific disease - if you have one associated with a positive HIV test, ( but DO NOT TREAT AIDS, forget about it. That cure is is often really dangerous...).
Hiv is real. I hv been positive for 8 years without medication. I got so sick, my cd4 count dropped to 58. I was not a drug addict, i was not on arv, i am niot poor or have poor nutrition but i last 10kg within a month. People take your arv medication. It as side effects but all medication has side effects. Aids dissidents are busy killing people.
@checkonit123 Getting a reaction on a NONspecific UNstandardized antibody test is NOT proof that there is a virus of mass destruction on the loose. There are DOZENS of reasons for reactions on those crap tests.
Go read what the manufacturers say about their own products. They make NO claim that their products can make a SPECIFIC diagnosis or what predictive value a reaction has. The direct links are on my channel under the pic of the Pope.
HIV treatment response and prognosis in Europe and North America in the first decade of highly active antiretroviral therapy: a collaborative analysis.
INTERPRETATION: Virological response after starting HAART improved over calendar years, but such improvement has...................................NOT................................ translated into a decrease in mortality.
Dearest, newest ANGEL Karri Stokely~My heart weeps for ALL of our most tragic loss & will for a while, but especially for your hubby Joe, your children, loyal family members & friends. You're in a far safer place now~where those genocidal, greedy sods shall never be able to traumatize nor lie to you ever again. The only solace I can muster right now, is knowing that you, Christine, Mr Seebald, Emery, Dr. Willner, Manto Tashabalala-Msimang & all 'their' other victims WILL make a formidable TEAM!
@wheedle2002 here we go...the vultures smell they death so they start salivating and come running. She died of pnuemonia and considering the fact that she had been on chemo drugs for 11 YEARS it's not surprising. You would be sick too if you were on chemo drugs for YEARS on end. Jim Henson died of pneumonia too and nobody called it "aids" . He hadn't even been on immunosuppressive drug cocktails.
@lemonrind I know. In 28 years the ONLY people I've seen get sick or die of "aids" were on the "lifesaving" meds. The UNmedicated junkies are fine to this day.
@lemonrind Don't worry. Criminal defense attorneys have gotten a hold of the test kit disclaimers. It's only a matter of time before the personal injury attorneys do too.
@lemonrind Google.......HAART Almost Kills Healthy Patient
6 Feb - When Ganesh Prasad was diagnosed HIV positive in 2010, his initial emotions ranged from shock to disbelief. The next nine months were filled with fear and exasperation as the 38-year-old was needlessly thrust upon death’s doorstep."
Ha..that guy is suing. I can't wait til the personal injury attorneys in the US get wind of of it.
@lemonrind Lmao....WOW...FIVE thumbs ups in such a short time on a video with very little traffic. WHat is it with retarded playing with sockpuppets on youtube?
@mykoolaidtastesfunny This story was featured yesterday on Digg. I assume the people thumbing me up found this video the same way I did, and genuinely agree with me.
@lemonrind Lol....sure honey. Lots of people turned up all at once to vote you up and mark ALL my replies to you as "spam" because this story was on Digg. Of course!! What else could it be?
@lemonrind Lmao....WOW...not only did ALL my other replies to you get marked as "spam" so did the one I just made to you less than an hour ago. Gee...those guys at Digg really don't like it when I answer you do they?
@wheedle2002 Ha...go ask the anonymous youtube "scientist" for the reference the dissident scientists have been looking for. He must have something besides logical fallacies and links to infomercial marketing sites to back up his propaganda videos.
@wheedle2002 I heard she was married. Can't remember his name. What happened to him? Since we don't hear about him that suggests he must be fine. Did he take a so what is referred to as an HIV test and if so what was/were the result/s?
“It will surely lead to a scientifically healthier society if the burden of proof for HIV as a deadly pathogen is returned to where it belongs — to those who maintain that HIV causes AIDS — and others are allowed to pursue alternative approaches in the battle for eradication of the disease."
— Dr. Beverly E. Griffin, PhD, Director, Department of Virology, Royal Postgraduate Medical School, London
IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS? ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW” SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
@RJJNYC1 honey...the rules of logic are not "ancient". The burden of proof is ALWAYS on those who make a claim not on those who dispute it. You don't get to re-write the rules of logical to accomodate your virus of mass destruction cult.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you can't refute published evidence by pretending it doesn't exist, and Griffin has had plenty of time to try and refute the published data by publishing research - she hasn't
@RJJNYC1 Lol...."proof" by assertion isn't a scientific reference. You can't just assert the evidence xists...you need to cough it up. YOU have the burden of proof you idiot...the point of the quote was to remind you about "burden of proof"
Your response? Lol....try to shoot the messenger without addressing any points.
@RJJNYC1 Lol...um yeh. Unlike yourself I actually watch something before claiming to know what's in it. You were yapping about poppers and serological testing and those aren't even discussed. Go post the TIMES you claim people were saying "false stuff' then go post the "real stuff"....stop trying to weasel out of it. Why is this soo hard for you people?
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Mullis starts up at the minute mark and keeps going, I gave examples of false claims these people make in the film & that you'd already posted, while you've lied repeatedly about FDA approval of diagnostics, the meaning of the quote from the Abbott label, Maggiore's autopsy, House of Numbers funding...
@RJJNYC1 No...you didn't. You were yapping about poppers and serological testing which aren't even discussed in the video. Go and post ....ANY...of the times you are claiming Mullis is saying "false stuff" and then post the "real stuff"
Stop looking for ways to shoot messengers to weasel out of it...I see you STILL haven't posted anything
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny while you make all these demands you have yet to point to any research by these people you're quoting, or offer any reason why their opinions trump those of the experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who actually have published research - all you've got is diversions. Look at this video of people saying stuff!!
@mykoolaidtastesfunny and while you make all these demands you have yet to point to any research by these people you're quoting, or offer any reason why their opinions trump those of the experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who actually have published research - all you've got is diversions. Look at this video of people saying stuff!!
@RJJNYC1 YOU have the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on those who make claims not on those who dispute them. You claimed the people in this video.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
were saying "false stuff". You keep NOT backing that up by posting ANY of the times they allegedly say "false stuff" and then posting what you think is the 'real stuff". You just attack the messengers.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny no references on HIV causing AIDS - false. Or are you claiming Mullis doesn't say that, which would be another lie to add to the list?
@mykoolaidtastesfunny while you make all these demands you have yet to point to any research by these people you're quoting, or offer any reason why their opinions trump those of the experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who actually have published research - all you've got is diversions. Look at this video of people saying stuff!!
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't dispute research by saying stuff you have to refute it - can you cite a single published research paper by either of them?
@RJJNYC1 Lmao....Kary Mullis is a Nobel Laureate and YOU already said the FIVE papers published by Rodney Richards isn't enough proof for you that he is who he says he is. YOU found those papers. It wasn't even me.
GO.....post ....ANY...of the times YOU claim they say "falsse stuff" and then go post the "real stuff". You keep NOT doing that
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
see on youtube.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Yes....Kary Mullis is an expert scientist. I see you STILL haven't posted ANY of the times you claim he says "false stuff" OR posted any of the "real stuff". You just like to look for ways to shoot messengers,
@mykoolaidtastesfunny hundreds of thousands of expert scientists with easily verifiable identities and credentials have published research studies, Mullis can't refute them by just saying stuff, can you cite a single research paper on the subject by either Rodney Richards of Kary Mullis?
@RJJNYC1 Lol.....can you stop trying to attack their crdentials? YOU have none yourself and the hypocrisy is staggering.
GO.....postt.....the "real stuff"....to the video.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN ......with ANY of the times you claim people are saying "false stuff". Isee you STILL haven't done it O Anonoymous Youtube Science Master.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you're the one citing their credentials, without being able to offer any explanation of why the count for more than the credentials of scientists who have actually conducted and published research, which they haven't
@mykoolaidtastesfunny there are more Nobel Laureates that disagree with Mullis and none that that agree with him, so even by your own expert criteria you lose.
@RJJNYC1 Lol...omg...."ad populum" is a logical fallacy...NOT "evidence" and the point is that nobel Laureate is an acknowledged expert in science. It's beyond hubris for YOU to claim he isn't qualified to comment on science.
@RJJNYC1 Science isn't a democracy you idiot....I'll say it again,....kary Mullis is an acknowledged expert in science...He's a PhD biochemist and Nobel Laureate. It is beyong belief that you would try to attack him based on an alleged lack of scientific credentials
I see you STILL haven't posted the 'real stuff" to the video OR any of the times YOU claim people say "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny and equally credentialed people have conducted and published research on the subject and he hasn't - you can't cite a single paper by him or Rodney Richards
@RJJNYC1 So...go...post...the...."real stuff".....by the accredited people of your choice to the video you never bothered to watch but claimed is full of "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
I see you STILL haven't done it. You just like to try and shoots messengers and yap about ad populum "evidence"
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted responses here, while you ignore any question and can't cite any research to back up the cut -and-paste quotes you post and Kary Mullis and Rodney Richards have conducted no research to back up what they say about HIV or support the advice doled out to people by Alive & Well on whose advisory board they sit
@RJJNYC1 Why not go post them to the RELEVANT video? You didn't even post anything appropriate here let alone to the video where YOU claim people are saying 'false stuff"
You CANT back up your claim that ANY of the people in this video....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
are saying "false stuff" or you would have done so by now instead of making excuses.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I'm not making excuses, I've responded to you here. You brought up the video as evidence that published scientific evidence doesn't support HIV causing AIDS, because Kary Mullis says that in it. And it's not true. Kary Mullis saying something does not make it true, even if he says it on camera.
@RJJNYC1 WHY are you responding to me instead of at the appropriate video where you can post times of people saying "false stuff' and then show how false it is by posting the 'real stuff"?
Answer.....because you can't find ANY incidences of anyone saying "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny so really you're just spamming the video and hoping for the best? Kary Mullis has no evidence to support his claims so they're worthless. Worse there are people who believe his bullshit, as you can see on the House of Numbers facebook page where people explain how this piece of propaganda for Rethinking AIDS persuaded them to abandon medical care
@RJJNYC1 Lol...Kary Mullis claims he cant find the papers YOU claim exist.
YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. It isn't up to the dissidents to prove or disprove Gallo's virus for you.....GO post what YOU think is the "real stuff' to the video in question
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No, the person claiming that the scientific evidence on which the world proceeds does not exist has the burden of proof because it's an extraordinary claim to allege a conspiracy involving the entire world's scientists, medical profession, regulatory agencies, governments and people who can read.
@RJJNYC1 No honey...the burden of proof is ALWAYS on those hwo make a claim NOT on those who dispute it. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Also...strawman...nobody claims there is a vast conspiracy...just a LACK of evidence. GO post what YOU claim is the "real stuff" to the RELEVANT video and post the times where You claim they says "false stuff"
@mykoolaidtastesfunny so you're arguing that when Mullis claims in the video that there were no papers for him to cite, the burden of proof is on him to prove that? Which he doesn't and can't, because it's not true.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny no, it's can you challenge the published scientific evidence that HIV causes AIDS with science. None of the people you quote, including the people in your beloved video, have done so.
C’mon, everybody’s wearing a red ribbon, why not you?
Appeal to Novelty:
Yeah, I know that retroviruses historically haven’t been show to kill cells, but this is a NEW retrovirus from a Chimpanzee in Cameroon via the Castro!
Appeal To Numbers:
Thousands of scientists think that HIV causes AIDS, why not you?
False Dilemma:
Either you accept that HIV causes AIDS or you're responsible for killing millions of Africans.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny the only natural history study you even mentioned was one about drug users in order to make your nauseating and revealing comment about "junkies" - that's the extent of your ability to deal with evidence apparently - declare it's not to your satisfaction with no basis and move on. That's why it;s called denial
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't read citations, Mulllis claims they don't exist, but conducts and publishes no research to challenge the published evidence
@RJJNYC1 It's obvious you have no evidence that anyone in this video....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
is saying "false stuff" or you would have gone posted your evidence to the video in question. You're a sneaking gutless youtube troll and I'm done wasting time on you today sorry. IF you manage to scrape up ANY evidence for your claims please feel free to post it the RELEVANT video....ha ya know...just in case you "forget" again.
@RJJNYC1 Ha...because nobody is really that forgetful....you're just deliberately avoiding it. It's very obvious. IF you had the papers the dissidents have been looking for and IF you had any evidence that they are saying "flase stuff" you would have gone and posted it to the RELEVANT video by now.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny people have been providing answers and citations to "dissidents" or more than two decades now, they don't listen or read just like you've ignored all the citations posted here.
@RJJNYC1 Just go post your fantabulous evidence to the RELEVANT video you jack ass
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
there are dozens apon dozens of comments from you HERE trying to weasel out of it. I'm tired of you. I think you've shown what an illogical weasel you are by now and I have other things to do today.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No, that was Rebecca Culshaw's math models, three of which are in PubMed, Can you cite a single research paper on the subject by either Rodney Richards of Kary Mullis? Being a Nobel Laureate does not absolve a scientist of the necessity of generating data and results to support their claims, anyone can just say stuff.
@RJJNYC1 Lol....can you stop looking for ways to shoot messengers and just go post the "real stuff" to the video that YOU never even bothered to watch?
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
....go post ANY of the TIMES in the video he says any "false stuff" then.....don't "forget" now lol.....post the "stuff" you think is real.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny time is one minute. So now over to you: Can you cite a single research paper on the subject by either Rodney Richards of Kary Mullis?
@RJJNYC1 Omg......just go post ANY of the times people say "false stuff" in a video that you never bothered to watch and then go post what you think is the real stuff.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
You keep NOT doing that. This is like talking about WMDs with George W
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I already have, and saying I haven't is just like Mullis saying there were no references for him to cite: false. But your propensity for lying is amply demonstrated.
@RJJNYC1 NO...you did NOT....there are ZERO comments from you on that video
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
yes...I know you like to throw out accusations without any evidence of your claims. Go post the TIMES you claim people say "false stuff" in that video and then post the "real stuff". I keep waiting for you to do that and you keep NOT doing it
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted responses here, while you ignore any question and can't cite any research to back up the cut -and-paste quotes you post
@RJJNYC1 THIS video has NOTHING to do with the video where YOU claim people are saying "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
GO post the TIMES in the relevant video where YOU claim "false stuff" is being said and then post the "real stuff"...I KNOW you keep NOT doing that! You don't have to tell me. That's the point.
@RJJNYC1 Lol.....I claim that video has actual scientists explaining how science works and it does. YOU are the one claiming it has people saying "false stuff" but you can't back it up by....did you "forget"?....going to the RELEVANT video and posting ANY of the times you say people are saying "false stuff" and then posting the "real stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny It's not "actual scientists explaining how science works" it's a bunch of scientists who claim HIV doesn't cause AIDS trying to justify their beliefs by saying stuff that isn't true about the published literature. In video interviews funded by their pals who share their beliefs and in whose organizations they are involved. That's not "explaining how science works."
@RJJNYC1 No honey....it's LACK of belief. If YOU have the evidence that they are saying "false stuff" then go and post it. you haven't...you obvioulsy can't and I'm sick of your excuses and trying to shoot messnegers instead of coughing up your evidence.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted it repeatedly, you ignore it just like Kary Mullis ignores the scientific literature and falsely claims that there were no papers for him to cite on HIV causing AIDS.
“Where is the research that says HIV is the cause of AIDS? There are 10,000 people in the world now who specialize in HIV. None has any interest in the possibility HIV doesn’t cause AIDS because if it doesn’t, their expertise is useless.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests
for more google......IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS?
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Kary Mullis, saying stuff but unlike the hundreds of thousands of experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who have published the data that demonstrates HIV causes AIDS Mullis has not published a damn thing, he just lies and pretends the published literature doesn't exist instead
@RJJNYC1 Lol...You don't even know what "stuff' he;s saying. Mullis speaks about his efforts to find the primary citation. If YOU know of it feel free to share. Go post it to my featured video
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
@mykoolaidtastesfunny he's trying to refute the published research by saying stuff, but has not conducted any research to support his claims - a video isn't research, doesn't matter he says it doesn't make the contents of the scientific literature disappear
@RJJNYC1 Saying WHAT "stuff"? Give an example with the time in the video he says it. Go post to my featured video where he gives the interview.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
The interview isn't research. It's an interview where he describes WHY he doubts the research. show what "false stuff" he's says with the time so people can be enlightened.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't refute research by doubting it and saying stuff about why you doubt it, you refute it by conducting research and publishing results that refute the published data - this is not science about why someone's hair is a certain color, it's science about why someone's immune system fails to protect them from life-threatening pathogens
@mykoolaidtastesfunny the stuff that he says in the video which is not scientific research or evidence - does he conduct scientific research and publish it on camera? No .
@RJJNYC1 WHAT "stuff"? You never even watched the video. Lol...you don't even know what 'false stuff" he''s allgedly saying. You can't give ANY examples. IF you could I have no doubt you would have by now
See on youtube....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
go post the "false stuff" he says with the time he says it then put up the "real stuff". Did you "forget"?
@RJJNYC1 Lol...YOU don't even know what they say? You have NO idea what is discussed in the interviews. You just keep ranting about "false stuff" but can;t give any examples based on what is actually said in the interviews.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Go post the times anyone says "false stuff" and then....lol...did you "forget"? Put up the "real stuff"
“There are too many shortcomings in the theory that HIV causes all signs of AIDS. We are seeing people HIV-infected for 9, 10, 12 years or more, and they are still in good shape, their immune system is still good. It is unlikely that these people will come down with AIDS later.”
VI Int’l AIDS Conference, Jun 24 1990
Dr. Luc Montagnier, Virologist, co-discoverer of HIV, Pasteur Institute, Paris
@RJJNYC1 21 years of using GALLOS antibody tests but you keep NOT coughing up the papers where he showed the proteins used in his tests actually come from anything SPECIFIC. The predictions made by his virus of mass destruction theory based on his tests have failed and failed and failed and failed again for 27 years.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny oh back to that again - the virus sequences encode the proteins, the same way other genes encode proteins - conserved genes encode conserved proteins like Gag, variable genes encode variable proteins like Env - you don't have a clue because you'd rather spout nonsense cut and pasted from websites...
@RJJNYC1 Lol...again with the circular reasoning. You have NO evidence that those proteins belong to Gallo's virus. You keep not coughing up THOSE papers.
@RJJNYC1 because I know who the test kit patent holder is. Duh! I know you can't use an e-meter to "prove" a body thetan so when you try to "prove" Gallo's virus using Gallo's antibody tests I know you're just arguing in a circle.
"The incidence of AIDS was 1.5% in the 1st year; 2.9% after 2 years; 9.9% after 3 years and 17.9% after 42-48 months. The risk of AIDS increased significantly 24 months after seroconversion."
@RJJNYC1 You can't just slap up random studies ASSUMING Gallo's virus exists and kills people. You need the primary peer reviewed reference where GALLO showed these protiens.... p17/18, p24/25, p31/32, gp41, p53/55, gp120, and gp160.....actually belong to a SPECIFIC virus and it kills people.
You can'tuse Gallo's antibody test to prove Gallo's virus. You need independent verification or you're just arguing in a circle.
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you've posted that already too also doesn't get more meaningful the second time around because the findings have been repeatedly independently verified in the primary peer-reviewed scientific literature, which you refuse to read but offer vile statements about "junkies" instead - you're giving yourself away
@RJJNYC1 No....Gallo's experiment was found IMPOSSIBLE to repeat or verify more than once by more than one governmentel agency....
Google...Top Scientists Ask Journal “Science” To Retract Original AIDS Papers
. In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was impossible to repeat and verify it...."
@RJJNYC1 Sigh...google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
" Montagnier.. admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did...NOT... purify any virus....includes.. a letter from an EM expert indicating that Gallo’s samples di...NOT... contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could...NOT.... be purified directly from human materials....t it was IMPOSSIBLE to repeat and verify it. "
@mykoolaidtastesfunny that EM expert was Matthew Gonda, who micrographed HIV, he wrote in his December 14 1983 memo to Popovic: "LAV - positive, lentivirus - productive lentivirus replication with all forms of virus maturation"
@RJJNYC1 Dude...that doesn't prove Gallo's virus exists and kills people...it ASSUMES it does. It uses GALLOS antibody tests as the foundation of the evidence. You also don't need a virus of mass destruction to explin why junkies get sick and die
"For the very first time in more than 25 years, statements such as..... “HIV by itself is not causing AIDS”....... “There is no gold standard for HIV tests”..... “ARVs such as AZT do not cure or prevent HIV infection or AIDS”...... have been recognized by peer review as scientifically sound and worth being presented and discussed at a conference sponsored by the International AIDS Society....The international Scientific Committee, which ..."
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Recently the virus has been molecularly cloned. The genome is 9.2 kb long, longer than any other known replication competent retrovirus apart from the lentiviruses. The absence of molecular hybridization between cloned LAV and human T-cell leukemia/lymphoma virus (HTLV) genomes compounds the original and extensive differences noted between these viruses and demonstrates that LAV is a prototype of a new class of human retrovirus.
"“HIV” virions have never been isolated and characterized in pure form, and when they are synthesized by cloning purported HIV genomes they are not infectious and they self-destruct within days (see PMID: 1386485). ....."
cont..."The questions, “Who proved that HIV attacks cells and causes AIDS? How? Where was this published?”, are routinely evaded by defenders of the orthodoxy; but they could not evade them in court. How could even the most expert witness respond? — “the most rigorous peer review . . . comes from cross-examination . . . in the courtroom” Could Fauci or Gallo be reduced to pleading the Fifth, not answering for fear of self-incrimination?..."
@RJJNYC1 bye now you sad yet well off cultist. You don't get to re-write the rules of logic to accomodate your faith in Gallo's virus. It's YOU who needs to come up with a citation. When you come up with something go poat it to my featured video.
And now she's dead.
Shame Peter Doucheberg and his denialists still continue to have exposure - and they continue to the cause the deaths of millions who listen to their lies.
RamekGreen 5 days ago
@RamekGreen QUICK!!! Mark this as "spam" too so nobody can see it :P
Did she die of "aids"? Nooo....she died after being on FDA Black box labelled chemo drugs for 11 YEARS then being blacklisted by her Drs when she refused to take them any more. She almost bled to death FOUR times and her Drs stood by and did nothing.
Of course someone "treated" like that dies.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 15 minutes ago
@RamekGreen Lemonrind says the reason ALL my replies get marked as "spam" and he gets loads of thumbs ups is because of the guys at Digg. What do YOU think?
:P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 14 minutes ago
@RamekGreen Oh and...Dr Al Bayati is NOT a vet. That is just another bald faced lie from the virus of mass destruction cult. Try checking out all the many HUMAN cases he worked on where he qualified to give an expert opinion in courts of law. He was also on "Investigation Discovery At the End of a Rope" which aired in Feb 2012
Duh! Lol....QUICK!!! Mark this as "spam" too so nobody can see it!!!
mykoolaidtastesfunny 9 minutes ago
and then she died... LOL
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@marz054 If sockpuppet freaks didn't work sooo hard at censoring comments you would know how she died. Of "aids"? No.
Gee...I wonder if "the guys from Digg" will be marking this comment as "spam" too? They really really don't seem to like it when people reply to any comments on this video.In fact if you hit "see all" comments it's pretty obvious what "they" get up to.
Lol....I wonder if "the guys from Digg" will censor this comment too?
:P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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@marz054 Lemonrind say there's noooo sockpuppeting going on. What do YOU think?
:P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
Karri Stokely passed away on April 27th 2011
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@qpmatt yes. It's terrible they way she was treated by her "Drs" She was on FDA Black Box labelled CHEMO drugs for over 11 YEARS. Then she was blacklisted by her Drs when she refused to keep swallowing that poisonous crap. She almost bled to death FOUR times and they stood by and did nothing to help her.
Who wouldn't die after being "treated" like that :(
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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@qpmatt Will the guys from Digg be spamming this reply to you the way "they" did with all my replies to that lemonrind? Ya think?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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Ha...hit see all comments and show spam to see what "alll those guys at Digg" don't want anyone to see :P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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WOW....ALL my replies to that guy get marked as "spam" almost immediately. Lol...I guess that guy must be right...the guys at Digg really REALLY don't like it when I reply to him :P
That's not going to stop the lawsuits though
google......OMSJ PREVAILS IN ANOTHER HIV CASE
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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Lol...hit "see all" comments. That twat keeps playing with sockpuppets to mark my replies to him as "spam" I don't see how that's going to stop the lawsuits but there you go....there's just no logic with virus of mass destruction cultists. A LOT of them are facing HUGE lawsuits.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
Google.....Court Trials Unnerve HIV Propagandists
"when asked to prove the reliability of HIV testing, prosecutors abruptly reduced their offer of 15 years in state prison to five days of unsupervised probation.
Several months later, Magdalena Mays was arrested on similar charges. But like the Torres case, prosecutors dropped their HIV-related complaint against her."
Those tests do NOT hold up in court. Period. Game over. Let the lawsuits commence!!
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
Google........HAART Almost Kills Healthy Patient
6 Feb - When Ganesh Prasad was diagnosed HIV positive in 2010, his initial emotions ranged from shock to disbelief. The next nine months were filled with fear and exasperation as the 38-year-old was needlessly thrust upon death’s doorstep.
by NEETU CHANDRA
Daily Mail (INDIA)
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
Lol....hit "see all" comments. I'm sure it's just a coinkidink but my replies to that twat have been marked as "spam" so nobody can see them.
What is with idiots playing with sockpuppets on youtube? Why the censorship? Ha...because they have no case and the lawsuits over this fraud are going to be HUGE!
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
i QUIT TAKING MEDS AND i AM FINE LIVING OKAY WITH NOTHING SERIOUS ON MY BODY..BEFORE i WAS A WALKING DEAD MAN, NOW i AM BACK TO MYSELF AND MUCH HAPPIER, i AM FINE! IF YOU WANNA KNOW MY DIET, JUST ASK ME. IT´S MAKING ME WONDERS BUT YOU GOTTA BE VERY DEDICATED. CHIN UP POZIES!
idiomas909 1 month ago
AIDS is not a disease, it's just a name given to a huge basket of different disease when associated to a positiv HIV test. HIV is irrelevant. Just treat your specific disease - if you have one associated with a positive HIV test, ( but DO NOT TREAT AIDS, forget about it. That cure is is often really dangerous...).
nuvolenelcielo 2 months ago
Hiv is real. I hv been positive for 8 years without medication. I got so sick, my cd4 count dropped to 58. I was not a drug addict, i was not on arv, i am niot poor or have poor nutrition but i last 10kg within a month. People take your arv medication. It as side effects but all medication has side effects. Aids dissidents are busy killing people.
checkonit123 5 months ago
@checkonit123 Getting a reaction on a NONspecific UNstandardized antibody test is NOT proof that there is a virus of mass destruction on the loose. There are DOZENS of reasons for reactions on those crap tests.
Go read what the manufacturers say about their own products. They make NO claim that their products can make a SPECIFIC diagnosis or what predictive value a reaction has. The direct links are on my channel under the pic of the Pope.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 5 months ago
@checkonit123 Lancet. 2006 Aug 5;368(9534):451-8.
HIV treatment response and prognosis in Europe and North America in the first decade of highly active antiretroviral therapy: a collaborative analysis.
INTERPRETATION: Virological response after starting HAART improved over calendar years, but such improvement has...................................NOT................................ translated into a decrease in mortality.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 5 months ago
ouch, at 4:27 the video shows an insert of an HIV antibody test but the caption reads instructions for use of AZT...
:-/
Anyhow, a great piece!
Thank you!!
juanmbarg 8 months ago
Dearest, newest ANGEL Karri Stokely~My heart weeps for ALL of our most tragic loss & will for a while, but especially for your hubby Joe, your children, loyal family members & friends. You're in a far safer place now~where those genocidal, greedy sods shall never be able to traumatize nor lie to you ever again. The only solace I can muster right now, is knowing that you, Christine, Mr Seebald, Emery, Dr. Willner, Manto Tashabalala-Msimang & all 'their' other victims WILL make a formidable TEAM!
annie46664 10 months ago
Karri Stokley unnecessarily died of AIDS on April 27, 2010. RIP.
wheedle2002 10 months ago
@wheedle2002 here we go...the vultures smell they death so they start salivating and come running. She died of pnuemonia and considering the fact that she had been on chemo drugs for 11 YEARS it's not surprising. You would be sick too if you were on chemo drugs for YEARS on end. Jim Henson died of pneumonia too and nobody called it "aids" . He hadn't even been on immunosuppressive drug cocktails.
You people are disgusting.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny The people who mislead this poor girl are responsible for her death. They are the ones who are disgusting.
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@lemonrind I know. In 28 years the ONLY people I've seen get sick or die of "aids" were on the "lifesaving" meds. The UNmedicated junkies are fine to this day.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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@lemonrind Don't worry. Criminal defense attorneys have gotten a hold of the test kit disclaimers. It's only a matter of time before the personal injury attorneys do too.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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@lemonrind Google.......HAART Almost Kills Healthy Patient
6 Feb - When Ganesh Prasad was diagnosed HIV positive in 2010, his initial emotions ranged from shock to disbelief. The next nine months were filled with fear and exasperation as the 38-year-old was needlessly thrust upon death’s doorstep."
Ha..that guy is suing. I can't wait til the personal injury attorneys in the US get wind of of it.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
@lemonrind Lmao....WOW...FIVE thumbs ups in such a short time on a video with very little traffic. WHat is it with retarded playing with sockpuppets on youtube?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny This story was featured yesterday on Digg. I assume the people thumbing me up found this video the same way I did, and genuinely agree with me.
lemonrind 2 weeks ago
@lemonrind Lol...sure...that MUST be it!
:P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny You're right. The simplest explanation is never right. Your crazy conspiracies make much more sense.
lemonrind 2 weeks ago
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@lemonrind Lol....sure honey. Lots of people turned up all at once to vote you up and mark ALL my replies to you as "spam" because this story was on Digg. Of course!! What else could it be?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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@lemonrind Lmao....WOW...not only did ALL my other replies to you get marked as "spam" so did the one I just made to you less than an hour ago. Gee...those guys at Digg really don't like it when I answer you do they?
:P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 2 weeks ago
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@lemonrind Ha...good. Censor me some more. I have a direct link up to this video from my channel as an example of sockpuppet censorship :P
mykoolaidtastesfunny 1 week ago
@wheedle2002 Ha...go ask the anonymous youtube "scientist" for the reference the dissident scientists have been looking for. He must have something besides logical fallacies and links to infomercial marketing sites to back up his propaganda videos.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@wheedle2002 I heard she was married. Can't remember his name. What happened to him? Since we don't hear about him that suggests he must be fine. Did he take a so what is referred to as an HIV test and if so what was/were the result/s?
ricci1007 7 months ago
@wheedle2002 the sad thing is that alot of them do, it's a shame.
Allen10579 7 months ago
“It will surely lead to a scientifically healthier society if the burden of proof for HIV as a deadly pathogen is returned to where it belongs — to those who maintain that HIV causes AIDS — and others are allowed to pursue alternative approaches in the battle for eradication of the disease."
— Dr. Beverly E. Griffin, PhD, Director, Department of Virology, Royal Postgraduate Medical School, London
IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS? ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW” SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny More ancient quotes by people who have conducted no research
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 honey...the rules of logic are not "ancient". The burden of proof is ALWAYS on those who make a claim not on those who dispute it. You don't get to re-write the rules of logical to accomodate your virus of mass destruction cult.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you can't refute published evidence by pretending it doesn't exist, and Griffin has had plenty of time to try and refute the published data by publishing research - she hasn't
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...."proof" by assertion isn't a scientific reference. You can't just assert the evidence xists...you need to cough it up. YOU have the burden of proof you idiot...the point of the quote was to remind you about "burden of proof"
Your response? Lol....try to shoot the messenger without addressing any points.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny the 1980s Barre-Sinoussi cites already posted here provide data supporting HIV as the cause of AIDS and clearly state that.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol....go and post it to the video we were just talking about.....
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
with the TIMES you claim they are saying "false stuff". You keep NOT doing that.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny there's no need, Mullis dribbles on about it all the way from the first minute on
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 So...post...ANY...of the times and then post the "real stuff". I JUST said that. Did you "forget"???
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
I see you STILL haven't done it.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny no references on HIV causing AIDS - false
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny have you watched the video yourself?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...um yeh. Unlike yourself I actually watch something before claiming to know what's in it. You were yapping about poppers and serological testing and those aren't even discussed. Go post the TIMES you claim people were saying "false stuff' then go post the "real stuff"....stop trying to weasel out of it. Why is this soo hard for you people?
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mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Mullis starts up at the minute mark and keeps going, I gave examples of false claims these people make in the film & that you'd already posted, while you've lied repeatedly about FDA approval of diagnostics, the meaning of the quote from the Abbott label, Maggiore's autopsy, House of Numbers funding...
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 No...you didn't. You were yapping about poppers and serological testing which aren't even discussed in the video. Go and post ....ANY...of the times you are claiming Mullis is saying "false stuff" and then post the "real stuff"
Stop looking for ways to shoot messengers to weasel out of it...I see you STILL haven't posted anything
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mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny while you make all these demands you have yet to point to any research by these people you're quoting, or offer any reason why their opinions trump those of the experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who actually have published research - all you've got is diversions. Look at this video of people saying stuff!!
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny no references on HIV causing AIDS - false
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny and while you make all these demands you have yet to point to any research by these people you're quoting, or offer any reason why their opinions trump those of the experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who actually have published research - all you've got is diversions. Look at this video of people saying stuff!!
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 YOU have the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on those who make claims not on those who dispute them. You claimed the people in this video.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
were saying "false stuff". You keep NOT backing that up by posting ANY of the times they allegedly say "false stuff" and then posting what you think is the 'real stuff". You just attack the messengers.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny no references on HIV causing AIDS - false. Or are you claiming Mullis doesn't say that, which would be another lie to add to the list?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny while you make all these demands you have yet to point to any research by these people you're quoting, or offer any reason why their opinions trump those of the experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who actually have published research - all you've got is diversions. Look at this video of people saying stuff!!
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't dispute research by saying stuff you have to refute it - can you cite a single published research paper by either of them?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lmao....Kary Mullis is a Nobel Laureate and YOU already said the FIVE papers published by Rodney Richards isn't enough proof for you that he is who he says he is. YOU found those papers. It wasn't even me.
GO.....post ....ANY...of the times YOU claim they say "falsse stuff" and then go post the "real stuff". You keep NOT doing that
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mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, the basis for the HIV viral load tests.
see on youtube.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Yes....Kary Mullis is an expert scientist. I see you STILL haven't posted ANY of the times you claim he says "false stuff" OR posted any of the "real stuff". You just like to look for ways to shoot messengers,
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny hundreds of thousands of expert scientists with easily verifiable identities and credentials have published research studies, Mullis can't refute them by just saying stuff, can you cite a single research paper on the subject by either Rodney Richards of Kary Mullis?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol.....can you stop trying to attack their crdentials? YOU have none yourself and the hypocrisy is staggering.
GO.....postt.....the "real stuff"....to the video.....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN ......with ANY of the times you claim people are saying "false stuff". Isee you STILL haven't done it O Anonoymous Youtube Science Master.
Three logical fallacies and you're out though.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you're the one citing their credentials, without being able to offer any explanation of why the count for more than the credentials of scientists who have actually conducted and published research, which they haven't
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny there are more Nobel Laureates that disagree with Mullis and none that that agree with him, so even by your own expert criteria you lose.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...omg...."ad populum" is a logical fallacy...NOT "evidence" and the point is that nobel Laureate is an acknowledged expert in science. It's beyond hubris for YOU to claim he isn't qualified to comment on science.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny so you lose, because no other Nobel Laureate agrees with him
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Science isn't a democracy you idiot....I'll say it again,....kary Mullis is an acknowledged expert in science...He's a PhD biochemist and Nobel Laureate. It is beyong belief that you would try to attack him based on an alleged lack of scientific credentials
I see you STILL haven't posted the 'real stuff" to the video OR any of the times YOU claim people say "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny and equally credentialed people have conducted and published research on the subject and he hasn't - you can't cite a single paper by him or Rodney Richards
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 So...go...post...the...."real stuff".....by the accredited people of your choice to the video you never bothered to watch but claimed is full of "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
I see you STILL haven't done it. You just like to try and shoots messengers and yap about ad populum "evidence"
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny no it's not ad populum, it's published research vs, saying stuff
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 GO...POST....THE PUBLISHED REASEARCH to the video
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Put in the times people in the video say "false stuff" Did you "forget"?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted responses here, while you ignore any question and can't cite any research to back up the cut -and-paste quotes you post and Kary Mullis and Rodney Richards have conducted no research to back up what they say about HIV or support the advice doled out to people by Alive & Well on whose advisory board they sit
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Why not go post them to the RELEVANT video? You didn't even post anything appropriate here let alone to the video where YOU claim people are saying 'false stuff"
You CANT back up your claim that ANY of the people in this video....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
are saying "false stuff" or you would have done so by now instead of making excuses.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I'm not making excuses, I've responded to you here. You brought up the video as evidence that published scientific evidence doesn't support HIV causing AIDS, because Kary Mullis says that in it. And it's not true. Kary Mullis saying something does not make it true, even if he says it on camera.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 WHY are you responding to me instead of at the appropriate video where you can post times of people saying "false stuff' and then show how false it is by posting the 'real stuff"?
Answer.....because you can't find ANY incidences of anyone saying "false stuff"
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mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny so really you're just spamming the video and hoping for the best? Kary Mullis has no evidence to support his claims so they're worthless. Worse there are people who believe his bullshit, as you can see on the House of Numbers facebook page where people explain how this piece of propaganda for Rethinking AIDS persuaded them to abandon medical care
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...Kary Mullis claims he cant find the papers YOU claim exist.
YOU have the burden of proof you idiot. It isn't up to the dissidents to prove or disprove Gallo's virus for you.....GO post what YOU think is the "real stuff' to the video in question
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mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No, the person claiming that the scientific evidence on which the world proceeds does not exist has the burden of proof because it's an extraordinary claim to allege a conspiracy involving the entire world's scientists, medical profession, regulatory agencies, governments and people who can read.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 No honey...the burden of proof is ALWAYS on those hwo make a claim NOT on those who dispute it. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Also...strawman...nobody claims there is a vast conspiracy...just a LACK of evidence. GO post what YOU claim is the "real stuff" to the RELEVANT video and post the times where You claim they says "false stuff"
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny so you're arguing that when Mullis claims in the video that there were no papers for him to cite, the burden of proof is on him to prove that? Which he doesn't and can't, because it's not true.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
Google...AIDS Inc: Common Logical Fallacies
Ad Hominem:
If you don't believe that HIV causes AIDS, well, you suck
No True Scotsman:
Argument: "No Scientist questions whether HIV causes AIDS
Reply: " Dr. Kary Mullis questions whether HIV causes AIDS."
Rebuttal: "Ah yes, but no "true" scientist questions whether HIV causes AIDS.
Burden Of Proof:
Can you prove that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS?
etc etc
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny no, it's can you challenge the published scientific evidence that HIV causes AIDS with science. None of the people you quote, including the people in your beloved video, have done so.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Appeal To Majority:
C’mon, everybody’s wearing a red ribbon, why not you?
Appeal to Novelty:
Yeah, I know that retroviruses historically haven’t been show to kill cells, but this is a NEW retrovirus from a Chimpanzee in Cameroon via the Castro!
Appeal To Numbers:
Thousands of scientists think that HIV causes AIDS, why not you?
False Dilemma:
Either you accept that HIV causes AIDS or you're responsible for killing millions of Africans.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny published scientific research evidence. Got any from any of your favorite people?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny did you find a copy of Dr. David Posey's autopsy report?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
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@RJJNYC1 They Dispute the claims that it was ever proven....go post the evidence YOU claim exists to the RELEVANT video...you keep NOT doing that
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three logical fallacies and you're out...bye now you sad ass cultist...I'm not going to be holding my breath waiting.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny that's a shame
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol....meaning? No reference and you hope I'll die for asking? You virus of mass destruction cultists are a trip.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny the only natural history study you even mentioned was one about drug users in order to make your nauseating and revealing comment about "junkies" - that's the extent of your ability to deal with evidence apparently - declare it's not to your satisfaction with no basis and move on. That's why it;s called denial
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't read citations, Mulllis claims they don't exist, but conducts and publishes no research to challenge the published evidence
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 It's obvious you have no evidence that anyone in this video....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
is saying "false stuff" or you would have gone posted your evidence to the video in question. You're a sneaking gutless youtube troll and I'm done wasting time on you today sorry. IF you manage to scrape up ANY evidence for your claims please feel free to post it the RELEVANT video....ha ya know...just in case you "forget" again.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny why are you putting forget in quotation marks?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Ha...because nobody is really that forgetful....you're just deliberately avoiding it. It's very obvious. IF you had the papers the dissidents have been looking for and IF you had any evidence that they are saying "flase stuff" you would have gone and posted it to the RELEVANT video by now.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny people have been providing answers and citations to "dissidents" or more than two decades now, they don't listen or read just like you've ignored all the citations posted here.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny but you said the word forget - you were quoting yourself?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Just go post your fantabulous evidence to the RELEVANT video you jack ass
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
there are dozens apon dozens of comments from you HERE trying to weasel out of it. I'm tired of you. I think you've shown what an illogical weasel you are by now and I have other things to do today.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny No, that was Rebecca Culshaw's math models, three of which are in PubMed, Can you cite a single research paper on the subject by either Rodney Richards of Kary Mullis? Being a Nobel Laureate does not absolve a scientist of the necessity of generating data and results to support their claims, anyone can just say stuff.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol....can you stop looking for ways to shoot messengers and just go post the "real stuff" to the video that YOU never even bothered to watch?
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
....go post ANY of the TIMES in the video he says any "false stuff" then.....don't "forget" now lol.....post the "stuff" you think is real.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny no references on HIV causing AIDS - false
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny time is one minute. So now over to you: Can you cite a single research paper on the subject by either Rodney Richards of Kary Mullis?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol....NO...did you "forget'? GO TO THE VIDEO and post ANY of the times and ...then post the "real stuff". Stop trying to move goal posts.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
I see you STILL haven't done it.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny as posted repeatedly: one minute on (and on and on): no references on HIV causing AIDS - false
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny so are Rodney Richards and Rebecca Culshaw the same person?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Omg......just go post ANY of the times people say "false stuff" in a video that you never bothered to watch and then go post what you think is the real stuff.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
You keep NOT doing that. This is like talking about WMDs with George W
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I already have, and saying I haven't is just like Mullis saying there were no references for him to cite: false. But your propensity for lying is amply demonstrated.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 NO...you did NOT....there are ZERO comments from you on that video
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
yes...I know you like to throw out accusations without any evidence of your claims. Go post the TIMES you claim people say "false stuff" in that video and then post the "real stuff". I keep waiting for you to do that and you keep NOT doing it
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted responses here, while you ignore any question and can't cite any research to back up the cut -and-paste quotes you post
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 THIS video has NOTHING to do with the video where YOU claim people are saying "false stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
GO post the TIMES in the relevant video where YOU claim "false stuff" is being said and then post the "real stuff"...I KNOW you keep NOT doing that! You don't have to tell me. That's the point.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you're the one claiming that video has some meaning, it doesn't, it's just people saying stuff
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol.....I claim that video has actual scientists explaining how science works and it does. YOU are the one claiming it has people saying "false stuff" but you can't back it up by....did you "forget"?....going to the RELEVANT video and posting ANY of the times you say people are saying "false stuff" and then posting the "real stuff"
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny It's not "actual scientists explaining how science works" it's a bunch of scientists who claim HIV doesn't cause AIDS trying to justify their beliefs by saying stuff that isn't true about the published literature. In video interviews funded by their pals who share their beliefs and in whose organizations they are involved. That's not "explaining how science works."
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 No honey....it's LACK of belief. If YOU have the evidence that they are saying "false stuff" then go and post it. you haven't...you obvioulsy can't and I'm sick of your excuses and trying to shoot messnegers instead of coughing up your evidence.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted it repeatedly, you ignore it just like Kary Mullis ignores the scientific literature and falsely claims that there were no papers for him to cite on HIV causing AIDS.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny people who have conducted no research on the subject that they're saying stuff about
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny have any of the scientists you quote ever conducted research on HIV infection or AIDS?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny if you ever need a medical procedure, would you hope it is performed based on someone's opinion instead of evidence?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny and asserting that references don't exist doesn't make it true
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 So...go.....post....the ..."real stuff".....to this video....
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
and include the times YOU claimed people were saying "false stuff"
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny no references on HIV causing AIDS - false
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
“Where is the research that says HIV is the cause of AIDS? There are 10,000 people in the world now who specialize in HIV. None has any interest in the possibility HIV doesn’t cause AIDS because if it doesn’t, their expertise is useless.”
— Dr. Kary Mullis, PhD, Biochemist, Winner, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for inventing PCR the basis for the HIV viral load tests
for more google......IS “HIV” REALLY THE CAUSE OF AIDS?
ARE THERE REALLY ONLY “A FEW”
SCIENTISTS WHO DOUBT THIS?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Kary Mullis, saying stuff but unlike the hundreds of thousands of experts with easily verifiable identities and credentials who have published the data that demonstrates HIV causes AIDS Mullis has not published a damn thing, he just lies and pretends the published literature doesn't exist instead
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...You don't even know what "stuff' he;s saying. Mullis speaks about his efforts to find the primary citation. If YOU know of it feel free to share. Go post it to my featured video
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny he's trying to refute the published research by saying stuff, but has not conducted any research to support his claims - a video isn't research, doesn't matter he says it doesn't make the contents of the scientific literature disappear
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Saying WHAT "stuff"? Give an example with the time in the video he says it. Go post to my featured video where he gives the interview.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
The interview isn't research. It's an interview where he describes WHY he doubts the research. show what "false stuff" he's says with the time so people can be enlightened.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't refute research by doubting it and saying stuff about why you doubt it, you refute it by conducting research and publishing results that refute the published data - this is not science about why someone's hair is a certain color, it's science about why someone's immune system fails to protect them from life-threatening pathogens
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 lol..omg....saying WHAT "stuff"?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny the stuff that he says in the video which is not scientific research or evidence - does he conduct scientific research and publish it on camera? No .
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 WHAT "stuff"? You never even watched the video. Lol...you don't even know what 'false stuff" he''s allgedly saying. You can't give ANY examples. IF you could I have no doubt you would have by now
See on youtube....Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
go post the "false stuff" he says with the time he says it then put up the "real stuff". Did you "forget"?
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny claiming there isn't published evidence demonstrating HIV causes AIDS - false stuff
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny how can they quit HIV when they've never done any research?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...YOU don't even know what they say? You have NO idea what is discussed in the interviews. You just keep ranting about "false stuff" but can;t give any examples based on what is actually said in the interviews.
Why I Quit Hiv with Kary Mullis - Rodney Richards - more HoN
Go post the times anyone says "false stuff" and then....lol...did you "forget"? Put up the "real stuff"
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 bye now....you virus of mass destruction cultists are a waste of time. you're nothing but logical fallacies.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
“There are too many shortcomings in the theory that HIV causes all signs of AIDS. We are seeing people HIV-infected for 9, 10, 12 years or more, and they are still in good shape, their immune system is still good. It is unlikely that these people will come down with AIDS later.”
VI Int’l AIDS Conference, Jun 24 1990
Dr. Luc Montagnier, Virologist, co-discoverer of HIV, Pasteur Institute, Paris
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Jun 24 1990 - there have been 21 years since then
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 21 years of using GALLOS antibody tests but you keep NOT coughing up the papers where he showed the proteins used in his tests actually come from anything SPECIFIC. The predictions made by his virus of mass destruction theory based on his tests have failed and failed and failed and failed again for 27 years.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny oh back to that again - the virus sequences encode the proteins, the same way other genes encode proteins - conserved genes encode conserved proteins like Gag, variable genes encode variable proteins like Env - you don't have a clue because you'd rather spout nonsense cut and pasted from websites...
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Lol...again with the circular reasoning. You have NO evidence that those proteins belong to Gallo's virus. You keep not coughing up THOSE papers.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny I've posted a whole bunch of papers including sequence data and you haven't read a single one of them
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny so how would you know that they're not "THOSE papers" = you've never read ANY papers
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 because I know who the test kit patent holder is. Duh! I know you can't use an e-meter to "prove" a body thetan so when you try to "prove" Gallo's virus using Gallo's antibody tests I know you're just arguing in a circle.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you don't know anything, that's been clearly established
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
"The incidence of AIDS was 1.5% in the 1st year; 2.9% after 2 years; 9.9% after 3 years and 17.9% after 42-48 months. The risk of AIDS increased significantly 24 months after seroconversion."
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 You can't just slap up random studies ASSUMING Gallo's virus exists and kills people. You need the primary peer reviewed reference where GALLO showed these protiens.... p17/18, p24/25, p31/32, gp41, p53/55, gp120, and gp160.....actually belong to a SPECIFIC virus and it kills people.
You can'tuse Gallo's antibody test to prove Gallo's virus. You need independent verification or you're just arguing in a circle.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny you've posted that already too also doesn't get more meaningful the second time around because the findings have been repeatedly independently verified in the primary peer-reviewed scientific literature, which you refuse to read but offer vile statements about "junkies" instead - you're giving yourself away
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 No....Gallo's experiment was found IMPOSSIBLE to repeat or verify more than once by more than one governmentel agency....
Google...Top Scientists Ask Journal “Science” To Retract Original AIDS Papers
. In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was impossible to repeat and verify it...."
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny the virus was isolated independently by multiple groups, micrographed and genetically sequenced - independent verification, remember?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Sigh...google....Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal Science To Retract Original AIDS Papers
" Montagnier.. admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did...NOT... purify any virus....includes.. a letter from an EM expert indicating that Gallo’s samples di...NOT... contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could...NOT.... be purified directly from human materials....t it was IMPOSSIBLE to repeat and verify it. "
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
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@mykoolaidtastesfunny that EM expert was Matthew Gonda, who micrographed HIV, he wrote in his December 14 1983 memo to Popovic: "LAV - positive, lentivirus - productive lentivirus replication with all forms of virus maturation"
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
AIDS. 1989 Feb;3(2):87-90.
The natural history of HIV infection in intravenous drug users: risk of disease progression in a cohort of seroconverters.
Rezza G, Lazzarin A, Angarano G, Sinicco A, Pristerà R, Ortona L, Barbanera M, Gafà S, Tirelli U, Salassa B, et al.
Department of Social Medicine, National Institute of Health, Roma, Italy.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Dude...that doesn't prove Gallo's virus exists and kills people...it ASSUMES it does. It uses GALLOS antibody tests as the foundation of the evidence. You also don't need a virus of mass destruction to explin why junkies get sick and die
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny and there you go, giving your bigotry away. Do you actually know a damn thing about the people in this video?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
Google....Firenze 2011: the end of dissent
"For the very first time in more than 25 years, statements such as..... “HIV by itself is not causing AIDS”....... “There is no gold standard for HIV tests”..... “ARVs such as AZT do not cure or prevent HIV infection or AIDS”...... have been recognized by peer review as scientifically sound and worth being presented and discussed at a conference sponsored by the International AIDS Society....The international Scientific Committee, which ..."
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Marco Ruggerio - HIV doesn't cause AIDS but you can cure it with Gc-Maf. Spot any inconsistencies there?
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny Recently the virus has been molecularly cloned. The genome is 9.2 kb long, longer than any other known replication competent retrovirus apart from the lentiviruses. The absence of molecular hybridization between cloned LAV and human T-cell leukemia/lymphoma virus (HTLV) genomes compounds the original and extensive differences noted between these viruses and demonstrates that LAV is a prototype of a new class of human retrovirus.
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 Google.....Defeating HIV = AIDS
"“HIV” virions have never been isolated and characterized in pure form, and when they are synthesized by cloning purported HIV genomes they are not infectious and they self-destruct within days (see PMID: 1386485). ....."
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
cont..."The questions, “Who proved that HIV attacks cells and causes AIDS? How? Where was this published?”, are routinely evaded by defenders of the orthodoxy; but they could not evade them in court. How could even the most expert witness respond? — “the most rigorous peer review . . . comes from cross-examination . . . in the courtroom” Could Fauci or Gallo be reduced to pleading the Fifth, not answering for fear of self-incrimination?..."
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
@mykoolaidtastesfunny another fine citation!
RJJNYC1 10 months ago
@RJJNYC1 bye now you sad yet well off cultist. You don't get to re-write the rules of logic to accomodate your faith in Gallo's virus. It's YOU who needs to come up with a citation. When you come up with something go poat it to my featured video.
three logical fallacies and you're out though.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 10 months ago
“The HIV-causes-AIDS dogma is the grandest fraud that has ever been perpetrated on