Ayahuasca, Pharmahuasca, and Ayahuasca Analogs

[speedboarder87]

I would like to put this out there strictly as a report for those debating ayahuasca because of the "MAOI diet". I personally don't eat meat other than fish and ate regularly until roughly a day until I took ayahuasca. During those 24 hours I didn't eat anything except a salad made of lettuce, spinach, carrots and tomatoes 2-3 hours before the trip. I didn't have any hypertension or any negative side effects other than the expected "la purga", which I always welcome in the ayahuasca experience.

[mky4mayhem]

Hey this is well outdated information.

Tyrosine is fully metabolized by MAOA inhibited by reversible inhibitors known as RIMA's, lengthening the experience. It is generally safe mixing these two, that is beta-carbolines and if anything that should have been mentioned was MAOI in conjunction with SSRI's, this is never EVER good. Nausea is caused by phytochemicals and can be extracted or filtered out.

Either way, you're gonna' get slammed.

[guitardude1230]

Geez, sounds like Ayahuasca is a lot more dangerous than it needs to be. I would rather just smoke some DMT and have a blast then have to change my diet and what not so the MAOI's dont take my life or give me problems.

[mattghtpa]

I agree, inhaled DMT effects are so brief yet still deeply profound.

I've tried various etheogens; small amount of peyote and psilocybin (best cerebral experience) also I've experience MDMA (best full body experience) and LSD, but I have yet to try pure DMT.

It's been some years since I've experienced any psychotropic, mostly because I'm older and I'd rather have friends that will experience with me, but also DMT seems something more than just a trip from the personal accounts I've read.

[robertdegiro]

if you take ayahuaska with a bad mood or depress youl trip to hell WATCH UP!

[krhlarsen]

I used 1 tablespoon Syrian rue together with 30-40 Phalaris Aquatica flower tops in a tea, sent me on a 10 hour trip.

[ImaMuffin]

giving up cheese would be... so hard... I believe you also have to stay out of the sun if you are on maois

[youtuba555]

YOU ENDED ACID!!!!! i dont mind hehe, is it true though?

[Memphionik]

5 star advice.

[GanjaZombi2]

Saw this gal in porn, what an exuberant performer; Ayahausca makes you horny I guess.

[salatetis]

yeah, you wish, pal. anyway, good luck jerking off watching her vids ;)

[mky4mayhem]

Well I find Tetrahydroharmine essentially an aphrodisiac increasing libido in males. Not to mention the intense orgasm capabilities. Maybe lay off the porn, friend.

[sweetypie000]

someone needs to put together a 'party-pack' of entheogens to sell here in the UK.

tired of hunting around for this kind of stuff

i'm coming to the conclusion krystle is too young to be infatuated with. (well, that's my excuse but it's a good one eh hehe)

:o)

[notAlabel]

and actually shes helping those *already interested* in doing said wtvr safetly.

[PezoCon]

poor girl.. shes ruining peoples lives with these videos.. making drugs sound all safe and cool, getting people to get into them more.. what the fuck is wrong with her head? 2 much " i-oh-wah-skuh " i think... i wonder what this gal has achieved in her life so far besides getting people addicted to drugs.. = (

[notAlabel]

look at the title dumbfuck its ayahuasca

[sweetypie000]

so if she discussed asprin it would be ok?

how long have you been a cock?

[greenishblue]

she's not condoning use, she's merely stating facts and experiences she's had, as for her head, she seems to be pretty clued up, the government brainwashes people into thinking that they can kill you blah blah, marijuana gets the press that it makes people go crazy and has lasting effects on the mental condition, which in cases (very few) this is true, but when you take into consideration that a main ingredient in cannabis is hemp, a widely used building material, you get the picture, research!

[shadowcop75]

Aren't most of us not already addicted to drugs? Nicotine, alcohol, caffeine, antidepressants, pain killers, sedatives and these are legal! I'll bet that you use some drug or other on a regular basis and haven't even given one second of reflection.

And besides, what is it that one is supposed to achieve in life anyway?

[leftysurprise]

one is supposed to not question their religious and government leaders. ever. they know what is best for you.

[SpoonFedMuffin]

Would you be able to make a list of the people that are addicted to the drugs she's talked about? To other drugs? To legal drugs? To non-drugs?

Psychedelics aren't addictive at all, and have in fact been used with tremendous success in the treatment of various addictions.

And remember, masturbation is the most addictive thing in the world (I just can't stop!) and it's somehow still legal.

Your username sounds like the brand name of a drug, btw.

[ImaMuffin]

well said, My fellow muffin.

[Chewy240284]

i smoked DMT, it was great, but didn't she say you need an MAOI or something before?

[justanotherbum007]

I think she mean if you ingest it by eating/drinking. Smoking DMT is a whole 'nother matter (I think).

[PezoCon]

have you also smoked chewy before? you fuckin nut

[SpoonFedMuffin]

MAO metabolizes DMT in the digestive system before it can reach the brain. In order for orally ingested DMT to be psychoactive you have to stop (inhibit) the MAO from metabolizing the DMT.

[mky4mayhem]

Also, NeuroSoup gal if you are familiar with Johnathan Ott than you must recall his massive ingestion of tyramine disproving your statement. As MAOA and MAOB both metabolize tyrosine, watching what you eat becomes irrelevant... Disregarding the dose of caapi or other MAO inhibitor, still wouldn't recommend such a thing(nausea X-Factor), but fasting has always been an inquiry of interest prior to ceremony. Stay away from the pharmaceutical RIMAs and not food. You NEED to eat something.

[PezoCon]

lmao @ need to eat.. thats mean.. shes just a confused drug addict on her way to an early death = / .. dont be so harsh! jk

[gerontodon]

Gardeners' Question Time: Does anyone know if it IS too late to sow reed canary grass seeds? All this talk of DMT - you might as well be talking about moondust! I've researched this grass though, and extracting the DMT seems laborious, but not impossible. Has anyone tried getting DMT this way? It'd be a drag, but an achievement (if it was achieved). I guess grass grows all the time, but it's surprisingly hard to get info on that on the net - most sites just recommend winter sowing.

[mky4mayhem]

Many of the phalaris species are generally a weak source of DMT. However, it has been isolated .005% of total weight not only N,N-DMT but 5-meo and bufotenine as well, ntm traces of gramine which is not safe for you at all.

As an invasive species, this means it does well in all sorts of conditions, mainly in cool-temperate climate(Jun-Nov) pending where ur at. However it's never too late, but consider to start now and expect leaves & flower stocks 5 weeks after germination.

[gerontodon]

Thanks for the info and advice. I think I'll make a go of it, and start sowing. I don't think I've seen any mention of gramine on Erowid, or elsewhere. I'm guessing it's not a major risk, I hope not anyway! If I do extract any crystals, rather than just drinking the juice or evaporating it too a hopefully smokable resin, it won't be a sophisticated operation. Still, if people actually have isolated DMT from phalaris grass using vinegar, lighter fuel and caustic soda, they lived to tell the tale.

[gerontodon]

Apparently gramine isn't harmful if smoked (according to the internet anyway).

[deryler]

N,N could be dangerous

[wehttam876]

what do they cut it with?

[NewRisingSong]

1000 thanks for answering my question.

Its a very complicated thing.

A research is a 'must' .

Thanks again...

[SpoonFedMuffin]

What would happen if you took an MAOI orally and then smoked DMT? Would it be the same as ayahuasca or would it be like smoking DMT but with a longer duration? Is there a difference between smoked DMT and ayahuasca other than the duration?

[TheProdigySupreme]

probably it would last longer and it would be hell of a trip:)))

But i wouldn't suggest that. What if you'll get really bad trip? Im sure you wouldn't want to fight demons for hour or even more:))))

Just smoke 50mg , it'll be enough

[fatlard1337]

The DMT hits harder for longer. I recommend vaporizing harmine/harmaline crystals before smoking the sacred spice if you want to mix an MAOI with smoked DMT.

[SpoonFedMuffin]

Awesome, thanks! (:

[BapometChiram]

Will you let me make sweet love to you whilst we both trip on something? Please......Im so lonely.....

[Melloh]

has Ayahuasca increased biophillic feelings or have you felt a bond with nature after taking it?

[gerontodon]

I don't think the dried extracts of mimosa hostilis available on the internet - that ship to the uk - will be that strong. I've found out that some strains of phalaris grass, which can grow everywhere, can contain a lot of dmt. Trouble is, it's nearly Summer now, and I think you're supposed to sow the seeds in late Autumn. Not sure, but, maybe I'll have to go to the garden centre and get a whole pot of it.

[region1111]

Yummy. You look so cute in that tanktop beautiful.

[yngbullwnohorns]

Woohoo, another reason i can add to my box to why i'm vegan :P

[sweetypie000]

new glasses? you could wear dustbin lids and you'd still be lovely :P

damn i'm a crawler lol

[sweetypie000]

grrrrr missed an 'e' off breathe. what a day ! damn.

the difference between ayahuasca and dmt ? none, i can't get hold of either.

wtf

:o(

You look great today and so very

desirable when you breathe

:o)

[empbac]

So are vegans generally safe when taking an MAOI?

[anom4lie]

nope