@devilzmantis no...the mustang isn't competing with the Germans at all. Your saying that an American muscle car with a 30k base price (gt) competes with German luxury saloons? Nobody in Germany is buying mustangs and nobody in America would be in the market for a foreign luxury saloon and a muscle car...
@chillybawls well, say that to Mustang Lovers in the US. They are always putting the M3 vs the Mustang.. but yah, there's no competition. The M3 is at another class to me.
@n9athan in your dreams bro, I'd like to see you drive both and then you tell me. The m3 is by far easier to handle and communicates it much better. The mustang can come close or even beat it...only if you know what your doing and how to lay down the power. But any schmuck would scrape in an m3. It's just a better car. Look at the price difference? They shouldn't even be compared
I have nothing else to say than , THATS WHAT A GOOD CAR REVIEW SHOULD ALWAYS BE, short , well video recorded, right to the point,and accurate description of the vehicle . nice job.
I have nothing else to say than , THATS WHAT A GOOD CAR REVIEW SHOULD ALWAYS BE, short , well video recorded, right to the point,and accurate description of the vehicle . nice job.
yes i agree i love my 2009 M3 and with the software upgrade there is no hesitation at all in either mode m or d. complete animal and i love those 19inch rims. i have the sedan since it seats 5 and i absolutely love it.
This is the guy that drove the Ford Mustang GT vs. BMW M3 in the 2011 shoot out in which Mustang GT had almost identical specs to the more expensive BMW M3. What strikes me as odd is that here the same race car driver is saying "What a ride, this thing so much fun!" "One of the best" "What a great ride!" Yet in the Mustang shoot-out he downplays the M3 in the Mustang shoot-out. Biased reporting? Did he get "persuaded" towards saying this against M3? Did Motortrend get Ford kickbacks? You decide.
Lets be honest, no matter how tall you are inside a Mustang you feel like pea on a frying pan all the time, they have never showed good handling and next to an M3 any ford and any Mustang lack of the proper racing technology and design. i used to love Ford but lately all the offer are problems and cheese manufacturing.
@Aliasify yes by 2 sec LOL but if the M3 was a DCT instead of stick shift, the time will be faster which the Boss 302 doesn't have. Plus the Boss 302 looks like any other mustang. There's no extra flair or spoilers... no distinctive features that gives it that GT top of the line feel. Just some big black stripes that looks like a kids car with no sophistication. American car designers need to understand the market they are competing against, porsches, audis, bmws......
@devilzmantis lol, you say 2 seconds like thats a small amount of time in this context. Most companies will spend MILLIONS for 2 seconds. I take it you are yet to see the "laguna seca" edition 302, its very much diffrent to the GT. The mustang, and to an extent most other US manufacturers, have such a passionate customer base that most would never consider driving anything else so in that respect they dont have to try and compete with euro companie
@Aliasify hey, i'm all for American cars... and i one day dream about American Mustangs to reign again like its golden age. I am happy to see that it's finally top around the tracks and not just drag racing... HOWEVER!!! and this is a BIG HOWEVER!! The Mustangs and the American sports cars have a long way to go to compete with the Germans. The next step American cars has to take is its design!! Boss gets black paint stripes? That's it?!!! come on!! Make it look more exotic and i will buy
@devilzmantis liste idiot,no america cars top around tracks,the Porsche gt2 rs ist faster around nurburgring than anything you dumb american could ever thik out building so keep watching cartrend and other american brainwashers,and wait till u meet a eurocar shows you where the hammer hangs when u meet one on the highway.
im glad america is getting the point its not all power they r now thinking of contrel. they also got the right choice of car even an e36 m3 is a great handling car never driven this 1 if only i had the money cant waite 4 a csl or alpina version
@walkabout09 its probably just the pads dude. Think bout the ZR1's brakes compared to the Z06. HUGE price difference and the ZR1 is the fastest stopping production car and probably will continue to be until the exotics start making lighter cars.
M3 has a great suspension and steering, but brakes could be done better(they're very heat resistant but I'm not 100% satisfied with the pedal feeling) , I also find the driving position is a bit to high even for me (I'm relatively small). BMW should offer a stripped out version of M3, without asking more money for less stuff.
@AMGfanBoy BHP Stand for Brake Horse Power. Means, how much horse power are at the brakes. Its usually less, than HP, because the drive train takes some of it away.
It's Silverstone II. It's an M car exclusive color. It's grey with blue content. Depending on the lighting (bright sun, overcast, inside a garage) you'd think it was changing color. Just amazing.
What over the internet where you can just google everything I ask you?
How about this - how the fuck you get to being the "parts manager" when your 20 years old with more than 23,000 views in 9 months!!! WTF dude. Get off the internet.
Wow! Are you serious? Every series/class is identified by the first letter/number, so the 3 series starts with 3 and 5 series with 5, X class with X, and M class with M. Then follows the range to separate the engines/styles.
According to your intelligent thinking, an X5 is a 5 series because there's a 5 after the X! You dumb piece of shit! Do you even own a BMW?
this car seems to cater more to that of a race track mind set, but what about every day driving?? has anyone driven this car at normal speeds on the streets? i know the handling's good, but how's the comfort level?
Very pissed that they missed a few (all from the Brits, spotting a trend, hmmm)...
1. Caparo T1 (fastest street legal car around Top Gear's test track, although it is not on the board because it is so low to the it won't go over a speed bump)
2.Mclaren F1 LM (I am so fed up with people raving on about the Mclaren F1, but the LM [Le Mans] version deserves to be in this series)
What i do not get is why they say they put a different 6.2 litre engine (6208cc) than in their other 63 Amg car such as the SL 63. The C63 only make 451 hp and the other 6.2 that mercedes makes 518 hp.
Yea. BMW does not want to sell a 43,000 car that is better than the M3. Which brings up the question of why they made the 335i if they purposely fitted a bigger wastegate to reduce boost. I guess they are just trying to follow Mitsubishi. Lancer, Ralliart, Evo and 328i, 335i, M3. Trying to make a car better than the base model but slower than the top of the line model.
The Mercedes Benz C63 AMG is not as fast as the M3 getting out of the corner. There is where the M3 gets the lead and why the Mercedes Benz C63 AMG gets the 2nd place.
No on track... C63 is an expensive coffin for track race...most drivers who tested it said it just wants to kill you....when you make that massive power you need to control it you know lol
Actually The C63 AMG isnt that good on the track, it loses power easily on the turns, unlike the BMW, it has a good handling, and you feel it...but I agree with it just wants to kill you.
Strange you say that. Because I've seen so many old Jaguar's working in better condition than YOUNGER BMW's.
Trust me, I've owned two S-types. Neither of them had a single problem with the electrical system. Or a single problem AT ALL in fact. BMW's are far superior? Nah, Jaguar's are built in a very high tech factory in Castle Bromwich, along with Range Rovers. They are superbly built.
Also the XF's interior is SO much nicer than the BMW's.
Luke, I like the XFR, I really do, but there is no need to attack german cars just because you like that one. In fact all three M cars have been tested to achieve 0-60 in 4.1 with the following setups: for the M5/M6 Euro-Spec 0-60 in 4.1 with SMG III transmission and Launch Control, For the New M3 0-60 in 4.1 with DCT Transmission and Launch Control.
I have performance meters on my car, which have confirmed this but I'm still sending you a PM with a professional Data Panel for all 3 cars.
of course .2 is nothing. In fact it bothers me when people say this car does 0-60 in 3.2465 when 0-60 is probably the least important measurement of performance, 1/4 mile is more important as the old gallardo would beat both M5/M6 to 60 & then get the same 1/4 mile. And NO the XF is one of the sexiest cars Jag has made. Its an insult to Jag and an exaggerated compliment to Hyundai/Ford to compare them. But it seems that you don't like the m5 because you bash it in every video.
Just quit it luke, it is bad enough to be a fanboy, but it is even worse being a jag fanboy without the jag. Every single time I come into a german car video (specially a BMW's) i have to find one of your fanboyistic comments that make you sound like a teenie-bopper cheering for your favorite boy band. I'm sorry to break it to you luke but your praised XFR isn't half the car an M5 is in terms of performance & XFR is practically new. German cars are as good as brits so get over it & quit envying.
why would they go with one with out a carbon fibre roof? and clearly this car looks best in white, silver looks ugly on it, silver suits the e46 alot better
theres a slight difference between engine produced HP (BHP) and actually useable HP after losses thru transmission and stuff....
secondly, america doesnt get snuffed but YES, you get less performance due to the low quality petrol.
for example, standard petrol in us has on average 5 octane less then in germany, which is why BMW says 420 and in the US you get (transmission loss regarded) probably less then 400.
where, because i've looked at this site over and over, and the coupe, sedan, and convertible all say 414 HP. personally i think that's too much for car.
Certainly, bhp is the power measured without any losses from the transmission, alternator etc. Whereas Hp is measured with them. So hp is usually less than a bhp figure.
There is no difference between bhp and hp. It's all semantics really. In fact "horspower" really isn't the best measurement for an engine's power to begin with but that's a separate matter.
R8 is a beautiful car...its style competes with Ferrari and many other stylish high-end cars. It sure does lacks muscle compared for its class...but most people of drive it they take this to impress....however if you want to be good looking and have some big muscle put something like PES (supercharged R8 at about $10-15K ) then we can take and line it up with any muscle car lol
not even true. i think you would all be surprised at how well a 4th generation f-body handles, a WS6/SS could pull around .90g on a skidpad and something like 66-67mph through slalom which isnt bad at all, and they only weigh 3500-3600lbs
as god intended lol. i'm a carrera fan but if i gotta drive a front engined sub 100k car this is my pick. the gtr is about bragging rights but it looks boring to drive. and the vette is close needs a little more refinemint
2009 BMW M3's tracks specs, 0-62mph in 4.5's and 60-0mph in 98ft, skid-pad 0.98g, slalom 73.3mph and quarter mile at 12.5's at 113.2mph. So it smashes the IS-F and actually has better braking and slalom numbers than the Nissan GTR.
American mucsle cars like the firebird and tha camaro that you just mentioned are to heavy and you lose control of them to easily and the drivetrain along with the gearbox/clutch always seems to be a problem.
i think the best way to describe a typical american sports cars handling would be "fun"...perhaps not set-up to go around a track the fastest but you'll be having a damn blast....take a Camaro SS or Firebird WS6 and just let it rip drifting and shit and you'll have a smile the whole time...and fun is whats it suppose to be about anyways
the m3 coupe is only a tiny bit faster than the m3 sedan just a tiny bit their is a real small difference in performance between the m3 coupe and the m3 sedan i would prefer to have the m3 sedan just as quick as the m3 coupe and alot more practical.
It is 414bhp which is 420PS... the same as the RS4. This is definitely the best everyday sports car at a reasonable price.. the sedan is even cheaper and more practicle, but the rear end doesnt look quite as nice.
well there are a lot of ugly handling cars in europe . but until recently all american cars were rubbish in the corners. wat is all the hype about the dodge viper. until recently that thing was struggling to produce 500 hp from an 8 litre engine. the engine didn't even have 4 valves per cylinder. i am not from europe but all american cars do is burn fuel . the're rubbish. Mind you there are some exceptions
Lotus owns you all.
Dimitri0809 1 month ago
@devilzmantis no...the mustang isn't competing with the Germans at all. Your saying that an American muscle car with a 30k base price (gt) competes with German luxury saloons? Nobody in Germany is buying mustangs and nobody in America would be in the market for a foreign luxury saloon and a muscle car...
chillybawls 1 month ago
@chillybawls well, say that to Mustang Lovers in the US. They are always putting the M3 vs the Mustang.. but yah, there's no competition. The M3 is at another class to me.
devilzmantis 2 weeks ago
@n9athan in your dreams bro, I'd like to see you drive both and then you tell me. The m3 is by far easier to handle and communicates it much better. The mustang can come close or even beat it...only if you know what your doing and how to lay down the power. But any schmuck would scrape in an m3. It's just a better car. Look at the price difference? They shouldn't even be compared
chillybawls 1 month ago
i see a lot about DRIFTING-if drifting helps the car go faster why is this move not used in professional racing?
snatchhog 8 months ago
@snatchhog drifting gives you less control... in a pro racing competition, it is dangerous to drift while you have several cars around you
devilzmantis 7 months ago
WTF, the M3 in this video opted for the sun roof over the carbon fibre roof.
Respect lost.
bcsngan 9 months ago
@bcsngan yah, that brings the time down alot. motortrend's test less credible.
devilzmantis 7 months ago
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I have nothing else to say than , THATS WHAT A GOOD CAR REVIEW SHOULD ALWAYS BE, short , well video recorded, right to the point,and accurate description of the vehicle . nice job.
lemexicain10 9 months ago
I have nothing else to say than , THATS WHAT A GOOD CAR REVIEW SHOULD ALWAYS BE, short , well video recorded, right to the point,and accurate description of the vehicle . nice job.
lemexicain10 9 months ago
yes i agree i love my 2009 M3 and with the software upgrade there is no hesitation at all in either mode m or d. complete animal and i love those 19inch rims. i have the sedan since it seats 5 and i absolutely love it.
jodes015 10 months ago
this is one of my favorite cars of all time, but ti me personally i like the 2006 design better for the m3
finalgamer32 11 months ago
This is the guy that drove the Ford Mustang GT vs. BMW M3 in the 2011 shoot out in which Mustang GT had almost identical specs to the more expensive BMW M3. What strikes me as odd is that here the same race car driver is saying "What a ride, this thing so much fun!" "One of the best" "What a great ride!" Yet in the Mustang shoot-out he downplays the M3 in the Mustang shoot-out. Biased reporting? Did he get "persuaded" towards saying this against M3? Did Motortrend get Ford kickbacks? You decide.
racistathiest666 11 months ago
Lets be honest, no matter how tall you are inside a Mustang you feel like pea on a frying pan all the time, they have never showed good handling and next to an M3 any ford and any Mustang lack of the proper racing technology and design. i used to love Ford but lately all the offer are problems and cheese manufacturing.
lemexicain10 9 months ago
@lemexicain10 no one is facing it lol, a boss 302 will out handle a m3 all day
n9athan 9 months ago
@lemexicain10 Which is why the latest gen Boss 302 set a faster lap around laguna seca then the M3
Aliasify 8 months ago
@Aliasify yes by 2 sec LOL but if the M3 was a DCT instead of stick shift, the time will be faster which the Boss 302 doesn't have. Plus the Boss 302 looks like any other mustang. There's no extra flair or spoilers... no distinctive features that gives it that GT top of the line feel. Just some big black stripes that looks like a kids car with no sophistication. American car designers need to understand the market they are competing against, porsches, audis, bmws......
devilzmantis 7 months ago
@devilzmantis lol, you say 2 seconds like thats a small amount of time in this context. Most companies will spend MILLIONS for 2 seconds. I take it you are yet to see the "laguna seca" edition 302, its very much diffrent to the GT. The mustang, and to an extent most other US manufacturers, have such a passionate customer base that most would never consider driving anything else so in that respect they dont have to try and compete with euro companie
Aliasify 7 months ago
@Aliasify hey, i'm all for American cars... and i one day dream about American Mustangs to reign again like its golden age. I am happy to see that it's finally top around the tracks and not just drag racing... HOWEVER!!! and this is a BIG HOWEVER!! The Mustangs and the American sports cars have a long way to go to compete with the Germans. The next step American cars has to take is its design!! Boss gets black paint stripes? That's it?!!! come on!! Make it look more exotic and i will buy
devilzmantis 7 months ago 2
@devilzmantis liste idiot,no america cars top around tracks,the Porsche gt2 rs ist faster around nurburgring than anything you dumb american could ever thik out building so keep watching cartrend and other american brainwashers,and wait till u meet a eurocar shows you where the hammer hangs when u meet one on the highway.
kay19833 2 weeks ago
@kay19833 HUH? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! I OWN AN M3 dork!
devilzmantis 2 weeks ago
2:50 "Fat...big...THICK rim.... and I actually like that" o.O
Mr2smoove4u 1 year ago
///M Power !!!
nil1230 1 year ago
I love what he says at 2:07 ... damn pilots are so cool.
mpelletier92 1 year ago
Any M3 is better than all of the american garbage cars ever created!
Vetal83 1 year ago 2
OMG Internet is slow, and I want VIDEO!
UberWagen 1 year ago
after this car i think i just might switch from being a porsche fan to a bmw fan, its FUCKIN BEAUTIFUL!
zero26tee 1 year ago
motor trend should pay attention to the composition of their videos. having the guys face under the logo is a bad idea
cooperunionstud 1 year ago
yeah!! my ride
jodes015 1 year ago
"drives the rear wheels just as god intended" hahaaha
aaronchungrulez 1 year ago
im glad america is getting the point its not all power they r now thinking of contrel. they also got the right choice of car even an e36 m3 is a great handling car never driven this 1 if only i had the money cant waite 4 a csl or alpina version
MrThearnichols 1 year ago
@walkabout09 its probably just the pads dude. Think bout the ZR1's brakes compared to the Z06. HUGE price difference and the ZR1 is the fastest stopping production car and probably will continue to be until the exotics start making lighter cars.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
@walkabout09 doubt it. without a large price increase I bet they are just upgraded pads.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
bmw is bether than audi .. fuck of audi
aslanALEVI 1 year ago 5
@aslanALEVI bmw is the best at all!
tetisweed 1 year ago
M3 has a great suspension and steering, but brakes could be done better(they're very heat resistant but I'm not 100% satisfied with the pedal feeling) , I also find the driving position is a bit to high even for me (I'm relatively small). BMW should offer a stripped out version of M3, without asking more money for less stuff.
bahnstormero 1 year ago
M3 still rocks! There's nothing like it in its class.
squarebomb20 2 years ago 5
Ultimate Driving Machine ---- it tells everything and no need to say more :)
setonas23 2 years ago 3
My dad just bought one of these. 2009. 20k off original price!
Milkshakman 2 years ago 3
its 420 HP not 414
GremBranxXx 2 years ago
it has 309 kW or 420 PS or 414 bhp. do the math yourself. 1kW equals 1.34 bhp/hp
AMGfanBoy 2 years ago 25
@AMGfanBoy i think it 1.36
vlados66 1 year ago
actualy its 1.36 not 1.34 ^^
swansmeister 1 year ago
@AMGfanBoy BHP Stand for Brake Horse Power. Means, how much horse power are at the brakes. Its usually less, than HP, because the drive train takes some of it away.
kregzdeM3 1 year ago
@kregzdeM3 brake horse power is the rating at the crank, not at the brakes
Drurison 1 year ago
@kregzdeM3 are u serious?
hoodyman88 11 months ago
@GremBranxXx Are you sure I just looked at the bmw website and its says 414.
darkjedi8 2 years ago
LOVE that color - powder blue or gray? can't tell but powder blue is the coolest car color. Lexus makes it best.
wfangnxd117 2 years ago 2
@wfangnxd117
It's Silverstone II. It's an M car exclusive color. It's grey with blue content. Depending on the lighting (bright sun, overcast, inside a garage) you'd think it was changing color. Just amazing.
mdapson 2 years ago 2
Listen up Audi Fans at 1:115! And its a proffecional driver. Case closed! Gay ass AWD, Yeah even the R8
joseabreu00 2 years ago 6
Ive riden in a BMW. its smooth..feels like the car is gliding in the road..
nil1230 2 years ago 5
§§§§§§ BMW M 3 IS eternal car §§§§§§§§§§§§§
libraska 2 years ago 3
M-3 is de best bmw
NickshanR11 2 years ago 3
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LFC0610 2 years ago
you work nowhere, you wish kid.
Kraig00 2 years ago 2
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LFC0610 2 years ago
Ask you anything?
What over the internet where you can just google everything I ask you?
How about this - how the fuck you get to being the "parts manager" when your 20 years old with more than 23,000 views in 9 months!!! WTF dude. Get off the internet.
Kraig00 2 years ago
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LFC0610 2 years ago
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LFC0610 2 years ago
m/// power
bmrshw 2 years ago 8
M3 is the best.
Jamzkangster 2 years ago 3
Quiet all of you.
It's a Motorsport 3-Series
doogeeunit 2 years ago
Wow! Are you serious? Every series/class is identified by the first letter/number, so the 3 series starts with 3 and 5 series with 5, X class with X, and M class with M. Then follows the range to separate the engines/styles.
According to your intelligent thinking, an X5 is a 5 series because there's a 5 after the X! You dumb piece of shit! Do you even own a BMW?
nabeelkubba 2 years ago 6
he probably has a 16 spd pedal bike
briant2828 2 years ago 4
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M3 is not a 3 series you idioto!
nabeelkubba 2 years ago
The 3 in M3 stands for 3-series.
The 5 in M5 stands for 5-series and so on.
But it is not a 3 series with only a bigger engine.
McDiezel 2 years ago
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DUMBSHIT!
It's a 3-Series! Hence the name M-THREE?
CrazyCaliber 2 years ago
you dumb fucks have u ever been on the bmw website? They're classified separately!
nabeelkubba 2 years ago
Yeah, it's a 3-Series, stupid ass.
CrazyCaliber 2 years ago
this car seems to cater more to that of a race track mind set, but what about every day driving?? has anyone driven this car at normal speeds on the streets? i know the handling's good, but how's the comfort level?
jimpodi 2 years ago
m3 is the performace version of the 3 series, if you want comfort, get a 3series
dhillskier75 2 years ago
typical comment on bmw ///M~ best car of all cars!
hsinhunglin 2 years ago
I love my Bmw M3!! bmw rocks
if575 2 years ago 2
Very pissed that they missed a few (all from the Brits, spotting a trend, hmmm)...
1. Caparo T1 (fastest street legal car around Top Gear's test track, although it is not on the board because it is so low to the it won't go over a speed bump)
2.Mclaren F1 LM (I am so fed up with people raving on about the Mclaren F1, but the LM [Le Mans] version deserves to be in this series)
3.Ariel Atom 500
4. Any Caterham
5.Lotus Exige/Elise (DUH!!!!... retards)
gyro231995 2 years ago
Yeah, it would have been nice to see a Lotus Exige S would have been nice.
amer1cancer2753 2 years ago
What i do not get is why they say they put a different 6.2 litre engine (6208cc) than in their other 63 Amg car such as the SL 63. The C63 only make 451 hp and the other 6.2 that mercedes makes 518 hp.
amer1cancer2753 2 years ago
there tuned down to make the higher models look superior.
604h22a 2 years ago
Yea. BMW does not want to sell a 43,000 car that is better than the M3. Which brings up the question of why they made the 335i if they purposely fitted a bigger wastegate to reduce boost. I guess they are just trying to follow Mitsubishi. Lancer, Ralliart, Evo and 328i, 335i, M3. Trying to make a car better than the base model but slower than the top of the line model.
amer1cancer2753 2 years ago
@amer1cancer2753
dude bmws old sengine dont use turbos they are N/A
sqeric 1 year ago
The Mercedes Benz C63 AMG is not as fast as the M3 getting out of the corner. There is where the M3 gets the lead and why the Mercedes Benz C63 AMG gets the 2nd place.
I drove both units...
liverpool1968 2 years ago
Hey. Im a fan of both cars.
Which do u think has a better interior?
Mehecanogeesir 2 years ago
If your looking for interior, give it to the C63But you have to give the M3 a chance. Not so far behind. Sure, for my "taste".
liverpool1968 2 years ago
bmw fucks mercedes an audi
aslanALEVI 2 years ago
Mercedes Benz C63 AMG is cheaper then the M3, yet it will smoke the living day light out of the M3.
Chadster93 2 years ago
No on track... C63 is an expensive coffin for track race...most drivers who tested it said it just wants to kill you....when you make that massive power you need to control it you know lol
njoni007 2 years ago 2
Actually The C63 AMG isnt that good on the track, it loses power easily on the turns, unlike the BMW, it has a good handling, and you feel it...but I agree with it just wants to kill you.
sweetmossi 2 years ago
On a drag race yes but not on track ;)
njoni007 2 years ago 2
BMW: The Ultimate Driving Machine???
Yeah, I agree.
0heyitsjake 2 years ago 83
@0heyitsjake No bro look up bmw darth maul that shit is nice,
Exlax123 1 year ago
hahahaha fuck you Mercedes
tazzcaaarlovr 2 years ago 3
I made a mistake.
I bought the South Korea car.
My car broke down at once.
My friend takes BMW.
It doesn't break down at all.
The South Korea car was the same as the South Korean people.
Even the car is a liar.
sayuponful 2 years ago 3
I'm Korean, and thank you for spending your money, and sorry but no refund for your jackass
rainzoro 2 years ago
choo goo leh?
AcXr50 2 years ago
WOW!!!!!!!!! I'am impresed americans have a race track which includes right hand corners as well???!!!!! AMAZING
gizas88 2 years ago 8
laguna seca? shows how much you know of the world my friend.
wrx831 2 years ago 2
haha. toilet bowl racers.
aieljose 2 years ago
Eh.. The grill is from a 1965 XJ.
Jaguar grilled BBQ? What does this do to the gallon? I know for a fact the 3.0 Diesel S XF beats the 535D by a large margin.
In:
MPG,
Looks,
Power,
Handling,
and quality.
Of course things are still owned by a British. That's like saying Qantas is better than British Airways. Of course it isn't..
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
You can't compare a Ford Falcon Typhoon to a Jaguar anyway.
That is like comparing an Opel to a BMW. It doesn't work.
That car is nothing but a Vauxhall VXR8. May I also remind you that FPV is owned 49% by BRITISH Prodrive.
Probably the people who engineered this car. While you Australians sat there shooting kangaroo's.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Well, we don't winge for starters, we don't have a reason to. It's not our fault most of the world is jealous for what we've created and done.
Tell me, why isn't Jaguar and other brands worthwhile? It does everything the BMW does. But also:
Looks better.
Has a better interior - Whereas this has just a bland, black interior with miles of plastic.
- The XF DOES have the best handling in its class.
- Much better ride.
All for £33k, I can't be arsed to write in your fake dollar.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Not manage anything is a bit strong.
Nobody wants to buy Holden, because it's shit.
I'd like to see any US or Aussie car with the tech of the XF.
I don't hate on other cars. I like the M3..
You are a British hater, you hate everything that is British.
"The Monaro costs about 1/3 the price"
That is precisely, why it's a terribly made pile of junk. With a plastic interior, and a cheap ripoff of the Pontiac GTO's body.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
I hate the 911.
Pile of Junk? Most people call Fords piles of junk on Youtube.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Like on Top Gear, the Monaro AND the Jag S-type R beat the 6 Series BMW, a LOT.
Considering in the Monaro however, you don't get the technology the XF has.
Or the design, for that matter.
The Jaguar XF also, got 5 out of 5 in the safety department.
As I said, Jaguar have ONE HUGE factory, in ENGLAND.
The Engines are Jaguar's own, also.
Because I'm buying an XF 3.0D next week, I didn't even BOTHER looking at the competition.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Still owned by GM.
And for your information.
Jaguar's are built in England. £20,000 car? The Vauxhall Monaro is a pile of crap.
All you get as JC says is "Nothing" But a badly engineered engine.
(Yes, I think only 400HP from a 5.7 V8 is crap)
If it can wipe an XFR, it can wipe an M3, or an M5.
Just the way it goes. Also, a Bonneville XFR will trounce that pile of junk you call a "Monaro"
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Also, you're from Australia.
All you guys made for a car, is a shitty Holden.
Which then again, is owned by GM. Which is a shit company.
And you're talking about design? Fuck off, all the Monaro is, is quite literally just a Pontiac GTO.
Germans are DELIBERATELY buying these companys.
Cheers Tata, you saved us from the Germans!
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Mini, bad quality? Hmm.
German's ruined Mini, because now it's a large car. Which the name disproves of.
They've also fucked the interior, yes, classical Mini's had a central speed dial, but not one to replicate a second FUCKING steering wheel.
They have installed ugly ass headlamps which the original Mini didn't have.
SHIT ASS Split grill.
Ah, old Roll's Royces. The Phantom is great, no, not the shitty brick that the nazi's designed, but the old Phantom.
Class, much nicer
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Strange you say that. Because I've seen so many old Jaguar's working in better condition than YOUNGER BMW's.
Trust me, I've owned two S-types. Neither of them had a single problem with the electrical system. Or a single problem AT ALL in fact. BMW's are far superior? Nah, Jaguar's are built in a very high tech factory in Castle Bromwich, along with Range Rovers. They are superbly built.
Also the XF's interior is SO much nicer than the BMW's.
BMW is just bland, boring, and silver.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Depends on which Jag you're talking about. If you're talking about the XJS.
Yes, it's a luxury car. It is not a performance car. Which I don't particularly favour.
Or the XFR? The tested 0-60 is 4.3 seconds. Only a Vespa with a guy, with a turbo up his ass can do that.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Luke, I like the XFR, I really do, but there is no need to attack german cars just because you like that one. In fact all three M cars have been tested to achieve 0-60 in 4.1 with the following setups: for the M5/M6 Euro-Spec 0-60 in 4.1 with SMG III transmission and Launch Control, For the New M3 0-60 in 4.1 with DCT Transmission and Launch Control.
I have performance meters on my car, which have confirmed this but I'm still sending you a PM with a professional Data Panel for all 3 cars.
twitchmassacre 2 years ago
I like the M5. But I hate the XF bashing with "Hyundai" "Ford Taurus Grill"
It has a grill which resembles a 1963 XJ...
Also .2 of a second is nothing.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
of course .2 is nothing. In fact it bothers me when people say this car does 0-60 in 3.2465 when 0-60 is probably the least important measurement of performance, 1/4 mile is more important as the old gallardo would beat both M5/M6 to 60 & then get the same 1/4 mile. And NO the XF is one of the sexiest cars Jag has made. Its an insult to Jag and an exaggerated compliment to Hyundai/Ford to compare them. But it seems that you don't like the m5 because you bash it in every video.
twitchmassacre 2 years ago
Not fixed up, but ruined.
Rolls Royce and Mini are both British companys, ruined. Dragged into the control freak world of the bland German car.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
Just quit it luke, it is bad enough to be a fanboy, but it is even worse being a jag fanboy without the jag. Every single time I come into a german car video (specially a BMW's) i have to find one of your fanboyistic comments that make you sound like a teenie-bopper cheering for your favorite boy band. I'm sorry to break it to you luke but your praised XFR isn't half the car an M5 is in terms of performance & XFR is practically new. German cars are as good as brits so get over it & quit envying.
twitchmassacre 2 years ago
One error.
It's actually owned by Indians.
As for the headlights, you'll find that Hyundai's are actually nice cars.
You'll also find the XF has the most perfect shape a car can have, least I can see for this, square pile of junk.
I couldn't care how this drives, if it looks like shit, I'm not buying it.
And 414 HP for £60,000 isn't "awesome value"
The XFR with 510HP is also £60,000. It has two more doors, and a bigger boot.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
German cars suck.
LukeXgamer 2 years ago
tiff needell got bmw in his blood wanna see handling watch him recommended by bmw lover
carush 2 years ago
watch the vid
gs20455!
the BMW (Bayrische Motoren Werke) M3 is a car from Europ!
MaddeluxeNo1 2 years ago 2
did i say the opposite?
gs20455 2 years ago
american cars suck in drifting
assfucker04 2 years ago
"You would have to be an uneducated idiot to buy an American built car."
except shelby gt 500
doranos 2 years ago
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Considering your lack of spelling ability, BakiTibike, would you not be the more likely candidate for the title of "retarded"?
paulbella81 2 years ago
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paulbella81 2 years ago
big breaks all around !! wtf !??!1 :)) he is so retarded !!!
BakiTibike 2 years ago 7
the way to tell !!! nice job !!!!
BakiTibike 2 years ago 2
this car is not American
angelkl27 2 years ago 9
of course not...American cars have no steering neither grip. European cars are in my opinion the best
gs20455 2 years ago 10
*cough cough* made in germany
uetzel 2 years ago 8
100% german car is the bmw m3
gs20455 2 years ago 11
I dont know that any car is 100% from one country. Parts are made throughout the world...
TamiyaDude 2 years ago
you are right in this...but you can't say is not german
gs20455 2 years ago
You cant mess with this car.
Just try and keep up with this car in person and you'll be amazed.
NoSurrender97 2 years ago
even in video games lol
mad12guitarist 2 years ago
why would they go with one with out a carbon fibre roof? and clearly this car looks best in white, silver looks ugly on it, silver suits the e46 alot better
Polskaboy28 2 years ago
jimmyteg is absolutely right in both comments:
theres a slight difference between engine produced HP (BHP) and actually useable HP after losses thru transmission and stuff....
secondly, america doesnt get snuffed but YES, you get less performance due to the low quality petrol.
for example, standard petrol in us has on average 5 octane less then in germany, which is why BMW says 420 and in the US you get (transmission loss regarded) probably less then 400.
it'll do 70mph though^^so y bother?
YeeSoest 2 years ago
I think the reason for the anomaly is the use of different grades of fuel.
jimmyteg 2 years ago
matthiasbauscher is right M3 has 420hp
billyaris 2 years ago
Correct, latest M3 does have 420 bhp. It originally had 414 bhp when first introduced.
jimmyteg 2 years ago
no it doesn't.
bhp and hp don't mean the same thing.
on the USA website, is says 414
Turquoise66 2 years ago
I am fully aware of the difference between hp and bhp, bmw website states 420 bhp
jimmyteg 2 years ago
where, because i've looked at this site over and over, and the coupe, sedan, and convertible all say 414 HP. personally i think that's too much for car.
Turquoise66 2 years ago
oh, and i went to the UK BMW site (weird they call their sedans, saloons..?) and it says 420 HP.
my conclusion is either the UK measure HP differently, or America is getting snubbed :(
Turquoise66 2 years ago
hey....could u tell me wats the diffrence betweeb bhp and hp?
futureM3guy 2 years ago
i looked on Wikipedia and the British HP and American HP are the same except in America it's just HP. i think in Europe they use brake HP.
Turquoise66 2 years ago
Certainly, bhp is the power measured without any losses from the transmission, alternator etc. Whereas Hp is measured with them. So hp is usually less than a bhp figure.
jimmyteg 2 years ago
There is no difference between bhp and hp. It's all semantics really. In fact "horspower" really isn't the best measurement for an engine's power to begin with but that's a separate matter.
foleygac 2 years ago 2
so how won??
ViperVenomACR 2 years ago
German cars rules !
maxou5757 2 years ago
I agree, especially good are BMWs & Porsches.
rayj778 2 years ago
The BMW M3 has 420hp and not 414hp -.-
matthiasbauscher 2 years ago 3
what world are you living it?
all the M3 have 414
Turquoise66 2 years ago
Sick BIMMER!
yankeegelandewagen 2 years ago
Ha.. I dont see the IS-F or C63 in there Best Handling Competition casue the M3 smashes the C63 and ISF on a track.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago 2
Yes, it does.
PauliusBa 2 years ago
hell yea. them other cars gata put superchargers in there shit to make it go fast. but m3 is all M power engine
gevbmw 2 years ago 4
The C63 is N/A...
maxou5757 2 years ago
Same thing with those shitty Audis.
CrazyCaliber 2 years ago
you're calling the audi R8 shitty???
jimpodi 2 years ago
Uh-huh. Yes, it did make better times on the 'Ring. But guess what... CSL rapes all!
CrazyCaliber 2 years ago
R8 is a beautiful car...its style competes with Ferrari and many other stylish high-end cars. It sure does lacks muscle compared for its class...but most people of drive it they take this to impress....however if you want to be good looking and have some big muscle put something like PES (supercharged R8 at about $10-15K ) then we can take and line it up with any muscle car lol
njoni007 2 years ago
Dont read below this point please. but feel free to post above!
MLGCODSTER24 2 years ago
not even true. i think you would all be surprised at how well a 4th generation f-body handles, a WS6/SS could pull around .90g on a skidpad and something like 66-67mph through slalom which isnt bad at all, and they only weigh 3500-3600lbs
racerxxx12 2 years ago
i'll be getting one this summer :D but after seeing this i want it now !!!
waelnajem8 2 years ago 3
as god intended lol. i'm a carrera fan but if i gotta drive a front engined sub 100k car this is my pick. the gtr is about bragging rights but it looks boring to drive. and the vette is close needs a little more refinemint
fcabido 2 years ago
infineon raceway?
gs20455 2 years ago
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man this sluggy piece of shit best handling??
fucking shits they havent driver a ferrari enzo
get lost you punks
xStalkerxx 2 years ago
germans has the best cars dude
neonagasaki 2 years ago 4
wow dude a million dollar car vs below 100,000
ure cool
next u wanna say M3 vs a jet or somethin
boy31 2 years ago
Wow, you like men.
CrazyCaliber 2 years ago
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2009 BMW M3's tracks specs, 0-62mph in 4.5's and 60-0mph in 98ft, skid-pad 0.98g, slalom 73.3mph and quarter mile at 12.5's at 113.2mph. So it smashes the IS-F and actually has better braking and slalom numbers than the Nissan GTR.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago 2
American mucsle cars like the firebird and tha camaro that you just mentioned are to heavy and you lose control of them to easily and the drivetrain along with the gearbox/clutch always seems to be a problem.
Towelman20 2 years ago 2
i think the best way to describe a typical american sports cars handling would be "fun"...perhaps not set-up to go around a track the fastest but you'll be having a damn blast....take a Camaro SS or Firebird WS6 and just let it rip drifting and shit and you'll have a smile the whole time...and fun is whats it suppose to be about anyways
racerxxx12 2 years ago
Man... These cars are quite ugly and i had never seen when they have been in some good places, that's like about all around the world.
530ii 2 years ago
what the hell is this guy saying??? lol
jayhov15 2 years ago
Actually, those cars can get around the track quickly but "fun" is what they lack, especially muscle cars.
sspope 2 years ago
the m3 coupe is only a tiny bit faster than the m3 sedan just a tiny bit their is a real small difference in performance between the m3 coupe and the m3 sedan i would prefer to have the m3 sedan just as quick as the m3 coupe and alot more practical.
Towelman20 2 years ago
makes sense, but if u could afford the m3, practicality might not be your concern already..
mrbenyong 2 years ago
It is 414bhp which is 420PS... the same as the RS4. This is definitely the best everyday sports car at a reasonable price.. the sedan is even cheaper and more practicle, but the rear end doesnt look quite as nice.
BI2016 2 years ago 2
well there are a lot of ugly handling cars in europe . but until recently all american cars were rubbish in the corners. wat is all the hype about the dodge viper. until recently that thing was struggling to produce 500 hp from an 8 litre engine. the engine didn't even have 4 valves per cylinder. i am not from europe but all american cars do is burn fuel . the're rubbish. Mind you there are some exceptions
mignik01 2 years ago 3