Good video! There is no need for whipping a horse. All whipping does is confuse the horse, destroys trust, leads behavioural problems (Look at racing for example)..Some horses wont even go into the stalls next time if they have been whipped during a race and reluctant to race etc.Happy horses are always more responsive and perform much better. Never ever beat or injure the horse with a whip. One day the horse is likely to lash out from frustration.
Geeze u guys have to tone down the critique! They did a great job. It might be a different form of lunging than I am used to in tx. But they knew what they were talking about. And know what they are doing. So stop nitpicking.
@ThunderEquus He did stop, and that's what she wanted. By rewarding it, he knows that 'yes, I do need to stop when she does that.' The next time they stop and he's no rewarded, he may realize he needs to stop differently.
I just read the CIE Studies website. Given the collaborators involved in this "educational" endeavor, it's no wonder that what's done in this video is so problematic.
@TeamMcKinley123 Likely because the horse was "broken" using "traditional" methods and is only now learning the new methods. With a 9 year old mare I just got 3 months ago, she was supposedly ridden for roping, but I have started from the ground up with her using positive reinforcement methods, so she seems "green". Not very nice to ask questions and then make assumptions before getting an answer.
Minor mistakes in horsemanship are made everyday, what she's doing is nothing, yes the reins should be secure, but other than that. The sturrips are hardly more than a lil annoying to the horse. The carrot stick she uses a lil more than necessary is probably more troubling to the horse. But I'm not in her place so who knows what's necessary. She's not abusing the horse so lay off... I perfer the natrual horsemanship way, but this seems to work just fine for a warmup
it would of been alot safer if u twisted the reins as wen the horse is movin the reins cud slip over his head and cause an serious accident.... maybe u should just twist the reins but gd work though x
this is scary....thats the exact situation i have! my horse looks exactly like that, he's eight years old and has only done the basic walk and trot!! so i can totally relate to this.I reallllllly want to teach him how to canter!! i try on the line but he doesnt know how!! so its hard. but this really helps!! thanks!
In response to concerns about the use of stirrups in this situation:
Lauren was not trying to longe Montana. She was using longing to prepare him for being ridden. This is the reason the stirrups were left down. Montana has the opportunity to lean how it feels to have things touching his side in a safe situation. It is likely that he will one day have a branch, a foot, or something else touch his side with much more force than the stirrups did in this video. We want him to be prepared for that
This is so wrong .... so wrong ; have some respect for the horse's side and put these stirrups up and then what is the deal with the reins ??? do me a favor get them situated and attched under the throatlatch ... what if I bandg you over teh head with that nagging carrot stick what would you do ??? the shit people do to horses just amazes me always ... comeone sense people , respect your horse and respect yourself LEARN and that that horsemanshit stuff
This guy looks adorable/willing and I like the soft bit you're using- also good info here. However, while extending the left arm out to encourage trot is useful, the whip also needs to be pointed to the barrel, or at the hind quarters promoting "back to front" impusion (more closely related to the function of the leg and teaching bend). Once the horse is out on the line body position affects speed-staying center maintains, moving towards the front slows, and towards quarters propels forward.
She probably has the stirrups down to get the horse used to them moving about. In theory your are supposed to run them up before lunging, but this means that many horses freak out if you lose a stirrup and the iron starts to bang against their sides.
i see your point, i've had my foot come out of the stirrup before, thankfully with a horse that was sound. if it had been any of the other barn horses i could have been hurt because of their reaction to such things. it might be safer to take the stirrups off and and use something else to get them used to things flopping around in that area?
i have a 14hh pony and she does good in the ring but when you take her into the feild or anything she spooks a whole lot. i cant even ride her there now. since you sound like u know bout horses can u help me a bit? like can u tell me some methods to do
Good video! There is no need for whipping a horse. All whipping does is confuse the horse, destroys trust, leads behavioural problems (Look at racing for example)..Some horses wont even go into the stalls next time if they have been whipped during a race and reluctant to race etc.Happy horses are always more responsive and perform much better. Never ever beat or injure the horse with a whip. One day the horse is likely to lash out from frustration.
MrNativeDancer 1 month ago
And pompeed, you are just rude. Plain and simple.
lindaposthumus08 1 month ago
Geeze u guys have to tone down the critique! They did a great job. It might be a different form of lunging than I am used to in tx. But they knew what they were talking about. And know what they are doing. So stop nitpicking.
lindaposthumus08 1 month ago
A stick made of carrots? Mmmm, yummy for the horses!
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210salman 5 months ago
I'm wondering why did she reward him with a treat when he swung his hips away? Wouldn't that be condoning the action?
ThunderEquus 6 months ago
@ThunderEquus He did stop, and that's what she wanted. By rewarding it, he knows that 'yes, I do need to stop when she does that.' The next time they stop and he's no rewarded, he may realize he needs to stop differently.
03firefly 2 months ago
Its really bothering me that the stirrups are down and the reins are just hanging there
KuteFairytale 6 months ago
I just read the CIE Studies website. Given the collaborators involved in this "educational" endeavor, it's no wonder that what's done in this video is so problematic.
Pompeed 7 months ago
@Pompeed What do you see that is problematic?
TheDollyMommaClicks 3 months ago
Oh, dear. How not to longe a horse. Any horse.
Pompeed 7 months ago
Why is your horse so green if it was broken at 3 and is now 8?? Clearly isnt ridden much then...
TeamMcKinley123 7 months ago
@TeamMcKinley123 Likely because the horse was "broken" using "traditional" methods and is only now learning the new methods. With a 9 year old mare I just got 3 months ago, she was supposedly ridden for roping, but I have started from the ground up with her using positive reinforcement methods, so she seems "green". Not very nice to ask questions and then make assumptions before getting an answer.
TheDollyMommaClicks 3 months ago
you are right about gentle tapping being better than the whip. most people simply don't know how to lunge a horse
jibbberjabbber666 8 months ago
To short of a lonuge line
barebackrider42 10 months ago
cool :)
irishbeast1000 1 year ago
nice horse!
mygreathorse 1 year ago
Minor mistakes in horsemanship are made everyday, what she's doing is nothing, yes the reins should be secure, but other than that. The sturrips are hardly more than a lil annoying to the horse. The carrot stick she uses a lil more than necessary is probably more troubling to the horse. But I'm not in her place so who knows what's necessary. She's not abusing the horse so lay off... I perfer the natrual horsemanship way, but this seems to work just fine for a warmup
TalaWolf95 1 year ago
Twist Up The reins AND maybe a little groom before you lunge on VIDEO might come in handy..
PepperPetxx 1 year ago
it would of been alot safer if u twisted the reins as wen the horse is movin the reins cud slip over his head and cause an serious accident.... maybe u should just twist the reins but gd work though x
iloveanimals4eva 1 year ago
Keep up the good work =))
rockymntgirl215 1 year ago
this is scary....thats the exact situation i have! my horse looks exactly like that, he's eight years old and has only done the basic walk and trot!! so i can totally relate to this.I reallllllly want to teach him how to canter!! i try on the line but he doesnt know how!! so its hard. but this really helps!! thanks!
hcf381 1 year ago
It would indeed be more safe to have the reins put up. It was not necessary in this situation with this horse, but it is a good practice.
About the stick: Lauren did keep the stick up when she did not need to. It takes time to learn the coordination of all the skills.
We are not attempting to show the perfect way to do anything. Instead, it is mean as an insight into the learning process.
CIEStudies 2 years ago
In response to concerns about the use of stirrups in this situation:
Lauren was not trying to longe Montana. She was using longing to prepare him for being ridden. This is the reason the stirrups were left down. Montana has the opportunity to lean how it feels to have things touching his side in a safe situation. It is likely that he will one day have a branch, a foot, or something else touch his side with much more force than the stirrups did in this video. We want him to be prepared for that
CIEStudies 2 years ago
This is so wrong .... so wrong ; have some respect for the horse's side and put these stirrups up and then what is the deal with the reins ??? do me a favor get them situated and attched under the throatlatch ... what if I bandg you over teh head with that nagging carrot stick what would you do ??? the shit people do to horses just amazes me always ... comeone sense people , respect your horse and respect yourself LEARN and that that horsemanshit stuff
ottopasquier 2 years ago
The horse is about to have a person sitting on its backk :L Im sure it doesnt mine some stirrups tapping on his sides!
willyf11 2 years ago 9
@willyf11 she just should've considered putting the stirrups up to keep from irritating and distracting the horse while trying to train it.
rockerchick9876 1 year ago
This guy looks adorable/willing and I like the soft bit you're using- also good info here. However, while extending the left arm out to encourage trot is useful, the whip also needs to be pointed to the barrel, or at the hind quarters promoting "back to front" impusion (more closely related to the function of the leg and teaching bend). Once the horse is out on the line body position affects speed-staying center maintains, moving towards the front slows, and towards quarters propels forward.
thumbmonkeyqt 2 years ago
there are 2 things wrong wirh this..
Take away the stirrups they could damage his skin or even his ribs
twist the reins then put them over ur horses head so they dont dangle... If he tripped and they went over his head he could of gotten hurt
generaldastallion 2 years ago
i agree!
graceland4life123 2 years ago
boo hoo
Delkolovr2 2 years ago
whats rong wid its skin ?
summamarchant 2 years ago
He is a red roan. There is nothing wrong with his skin.
CIEStudies 2 years ago
yer hes got white pit behide the sadle
summamarchant 2 years ago
that is not a problem! learn ur horses!
graceland4life123 2 years ago
@summamarchant What's wrong with your keyboard that you cannot type properly?
XxOperaGhostxX 5 months ago
you should fasten the reins before lunging.
Pylamos 2 years ago 5
Lovely red roan. i Suggest some grooming tho! (: however, well done
StunnaShowjumper 2 years ago
that is not even correct!
kefrhy 2 years ago
She probably has the stirrups down to get the horse used to them moving about. In theory your are supposed to run them up before lunging, but this means that many horses freak out if you lose a stirrup and the iron starts to bang against their sides.
lnapthine 2 years ago
i see your point, i've had my foot come out of the stirrup before, thankfully with a horse that was sound. if it had been any of the other barn horses i could have been hurt because of their reaction to such things. it might be safer to take the stirrups off and and use something else to get them used to things flopping around in that area?
Dogote82 2 years ago
NEVER lunge with the stirrups unsecured, especially english stirrups which are heavy enough to crack your horse's ribs when they bounce at the trot.
punkle2you 2 years ago
arn't you supposed to bring up the stirrups before lunging her so that they dont bang against her sides?
Tessamya 2 years ago 2
this is great!!!! yeah i love your horse!!!1 but whats wrong with her or his sides??? or is that markings
AnimalLover2456 3 years ago
Yeah, those are markings. He is a Red Roan.
CIEStudies 3 years ago
@CIEStudies The ones on his backside too???
moezzzie 1 year ago
@CIEStudies This does help a bit. I have always lunged before but now I know why it is a good idea to keep the stirrups down! Thanks for the help :)
xxCollectedCanterxx 5 months ago
lol you sound like a news person XD
hah montana is a pretty horse.
i have a 14hh pony and she does good in the ring but when you take her into the feild or anything she spooks a whole lot. i cant even ride her there now. since you sound like u know bout horses can u help me a bit? like can u tell me some methods to do
skaterchik4life13 3 years ago
pretty cool :)
ilufBlue 3 years ago