Spock and Uhura from original series

[talkindurinthemovie]

ANNYYYYYYWAYS! I hate when people are like that the spock an uhrua pairing didn't make sense cuz it is infact something that gene wanted to do but coudn't because of the racial climate and thier are plently of little clues that I say when I watched b4 seeing the 2009 version. like in charlie x, who mourns adonis, man trap and a bunch other including a deleted scene where spock totally hits on her in elanis of troyus...yes I got that nerd rage lol

[AzureAlight]

well there were other spock/uhura moments in TOS, but there was also kirk/uhura sulu/uhura chekov/uhura, and in the movies, scotty/uhura. Uhura suffered from being the only lead female and therefore ended up in a lot of shiptease moments with most of the male crew. I kind of like that she has a canon boyfriend in the new movie, but i felt that spock was a bit distant. Maybe it will get better.

[LeMcCHarStar4ever]

thats not spock!

[femmefatale246]

IF YOU WATCH THE REST OF THAT CLIP, SPOCK SAYS 'ARE YOU SURPRISED I HAVE READ BYRON, DOCTOR? AND MCCOY SAYS 'THAT IS SPOCK'.

[SpockLover27]

*Twitch twitch* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is NOT Spock don't you get it!? There is an alien form possessing part of Spock's mind. It is the Alien inside Spock's mind that is attracted to her. NOT Spock. In fact if you watched the motion pictures, you will find that Uhura was attracted to Scotty. Why they are paired in that new lame movie I don't know.

[laterh8r]

will you all STFU?! if u dont like the pairing then get the hell out of the comments!

if ur not a S/U shipper then thats too bad because its in ST09 and its gonna be in the sequel....so deal with it!

[1bulma1]

I will say this for the last time kirk and spock are not gay

[miladynana]

guys, when Bones says "that's not Spock" it's because it's really NOT Spock, there's an alien inside his body

[psychsike01]

I find it very sad that, on vids that have anything to do with black people, male or female, or interrracial black/white like this one, I never have to click too far into the comments before I see someone has written something racist. Racism, while it never went away, seems to be making a mainstream comeback. I for one think it's a real shame...part of the moral breakdown of society...we keep sinking lower and lower...it'll be scary to see just how far backwards we go as a whole.

[EverPotion]

"that's not spock!"

[miladynana]

@EverPotion exactly

[ByakugunDorkyFilms]

thats not spock lol

[EnterprisePhantom]

If only you could see the smile on my face right now.

[joeperrysbabe]

Which episode is this?? I wanna see it!

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"Is There in Truth No Beauty?", season 3.

[xxSunsetSagexx]

That's not Spock!

lol bones

[tiemedown]

who is to say that the medusans are too ugly to behold or too beautiful to bear -- this episode

[SaeriaSuresh]

LOL. he's all *WHEEE POETRY* and Bones is like "...that's not Spock." xD which episode is this? I'm currently watching all of TOS, and I haven't seen this one yet.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

YOU need to watch the episode again. That IS Spock, and the Medusan ambassador Spock - they are mind-melded. As Kollos/Spock says, "part of *us* is known to you as Kollos". He is equal parts Kollos and Spock.

[MoriSempaisNeko]

"THAT NOT SPOCK!!" OoO

oh McCoy you never sece to make me not love you XD

[uofc57]

"cease"

[tiemedown]

watch the first few episodes, she hits on him like a mo, and he plays to her on his violin thing, there was totally a thing going on but original spock was too cold for anything to happen

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

I'm sorry SamaCWNS... there is and there  was in TOS, too, no matter how much you may want to deny it... I guess when it comes to Spock, it has to be 100% obvious and include a make-out scene for some fans to actually recognize that there is "something" there ;D

[SamaCWNS]

Haha, I actually prefer the non-makeout loves. Still don't see it though. Yes Uhura has flirted with him...and he's turned her down in as true a Vulcan way as possible. And he's never truly said anything about liking her. Wasn't it hinted once with Chapel? When he was under some sort of influence. If you see this as Spock letting his feelings show...then all it shows is that he admits Uhura is beautiful. And everyone knows that's true.

[purplemamakas]

The Episode you are referring to SamaCWNS is the Naked Time.

[kitkat9288]

One of the new writers is a big Trekkie so he probably picked up on a lot of this.

[tsthunt]

Um, Spock was not Spock when he was saying that.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Um, yes he was, only mind-melded with Kollos. The mind that spoke this was part Kollos, part Spock. And which part do you think had read Byron and thought of Uhura as beautiful, and called her that right after he called Kirk his captain and best friend, and McCoy another long-time acquaintance? Spock, or a Medusan who had never met these people before, and had no knowledge of human body and language? Come on! Kollos' warm personality only helped express what Spock felt.

[BondFreek]

No. The Medusains appreciate beauty, just look at how the ambassador looked at Dian's character.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

The Medusans appreciate beauty *of the mind*. Kollos/Spock *never* called Miranda *beautiful*, and she was the only person there Kollos was close to and who meant something to *Kollos*, as opposed to Spock. Miranda and Kollos were close and he cared about her. But not for her body. Watch the episode again. Kollos didn't even have any idea what human bodies are like before, the experience was totally new to him.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

To suggest that Kollos, by himself, would think of a specific *human* body as beautiful, let alone start reciting Byron's poetry to her, is ridiculously antropocentric. It's like suggesting that a human would find an alien female who looked like a giant blob attractive. Yet Kollos/Spock thinks of Uhura as beautiful, who means *nothing* to Kollos himself. Just like Kirk and McCoy mean nothing to him, he had never even met those people.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Kollos/Spock addressed Kirk as his captain and best friend of many years, are you saying that that was what Kirk was to *Kollos*?! Sorry, you may try to deny it all you like, but the obvious explanation is the only logical one: Kollos/Spock only addressed Miranda for what she meant to Kollos. He addressed Kirk, McCoy and Uhura for what they meant to Spock - and there were other people on the bridge, but he chose to approach them -and expressed Spock's feelings the way Spock would never do.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

LMAO Dude, you really have some issues. What does ST09 have to do with this episode? I've seen it much before ST09 and I have enough common sense to see what is going on in an episode. I did not get angry, I was very patiently explaining the episode (even though I've done it a few times already on this page).

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

The script even says "That's Spock!" right afterwards.

I interpret it as exactly what *is* on screen. The scene is very interesting because of the questions of identity is poses. The person in the scene is both Kollos and Spock, which is very interesting. McCoy is so confused that he says "that's not Spock" and "that's Spock!" The entire scene is also on Youtube, as "Spock mind-melds with Medusan Ambassador Kollos".

[BondFreek]

The script showed the audience when Spock was talking and when the ambassador was talking. Only a bigot would not understand that beauty transcends form. Im no longer replying to you for you do not want a debate you just want to rant.

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[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Only a bigot would not understand that there is no one single standard of beauty that *everyone* in the universe has to adhere to.

How ironic - you keep ranting and accusing others of the same thing.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"Beauty transcends form" in an episode in which humans go crazy just by taking a look at a Medusan? Nevermind, you should not let facts interfere with your little rants. I do enjoy reading them, they are so *bombastic* and *repetitive* and full of 'wisdom' you could find in fortune cookies.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"Aliens were attracted to beauty regardless of species"

If that were the case, humans should be attracted to aliens who look like blobs or giant tubes. But I don't know anyone even attracted to Horta, do you? Forget about pointy ears, rigged foreheads etc. These people all look extremely similar to humans. What about aliens who are really different?

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

I don't recite poetry to my flowers, either. Surprise, surprise. How many more rants are you going to post?

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

If your views were right, it would actually mean that the "message" was that every alien, even one completely different from humans, is attracted to *HUMAN* beauty . That would be an absurdly antropocentric view - as if humans and human standards of beauty wre universal, and everyone should find *us" beautiful, even Medusans, who don't even have physical bodies in the same sense of the word. That would not be a message that there is no race. That would mean that *our* race - human - is the best.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"A rant or harangue is a speech or text that does not present a well-researched and calm argument; rather, it is typically an attack on an idea, a person or an institution, and very often lacks proven claims. Such attacks are usually personal attacks. "

According to the definition, your posts about ST09 are rants. My posts about this episode obivously don't have any characteristics of rants. They are explanations - which are long only because some people have a hard time understanding them.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Wrong on both accounts. I think that others are smart enough to understand something if I explain it to them, but apparently I overestimated some people. And second, facts don't prove me wrong - on the contrary. I'd love to hear one single "fact" that proves me wrong. For a post to be a rant, it would have to be 1) angry and attacking someone, and 2) to present no arguments. In other words, your latest post is 100% rant.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

I find it funny that you're so desperate to deny that Spock (half-human, spent his whole life around humans - first his mom, then in Starfleet; plus Vulcans are similar to humans anyway; has had relationships with human women like Leila, told Zarabeth she was beautiful...) had thoughts about Uhura's beauty, that you'll come up with something as absurd as the idea that Kollos - totally non-human - is 'attracted to Uhura'.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

I do have one problem with your posts, see, I like the episode "Is There inTruth No Beauty?" Why are you so eager to make people think that it's stupid and that this scene is random and absurd?

[blkchk]

VERY true, dat!! Spock/Uhura 4EVA!

[fanpiress247]

AWW.

WAiT.

MiNDMELD>

DAMNiT.

[BlueMoonz55]

If you saw that episode where kirk kissed uhura- that was actually supposed to be spock! NYEAHHAAHAHA

[SmartBlonde317]

lol i love your laugh

[Teetee33]

Yeah, why would Spock have even gone over to her, to acknowledge her at all, let alone her "beauty?" I never knew that the IR kiss between Kirk and Uhura was supposed to be between Spock and Uhura until now, but considering a few things that happened in the original series and then the new movie, well yeah, bring the NC-17 fantasies! =) Spohura!

[l101177]

which episode is this from?

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"Is There in Truth No Beauty?"

The entire scene is on YT, too, look for 'Spock mind-melds with Medusan ambassador Kollos'

[TruthFan]

I would have loved to see the end of that piece with Bones confirming that it is Spock.

[estrelinha]

Yeah, but you know, in this scene it isn't spock talking, it's that medusian guy who's sharing spock's mind.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

It's actually a mix of Spock's and Kollos (the Medusan ambassador)'s mind. Kollos didn't know Uhura, Kirk or McCoy and didn't know anything about human bodies or language. So it's not likely that Kollos would think of Uhura as beautiful or that he'd know Byron's poetry, or that she, Kirk or McCoy would mean anything to him, if he wasn's sharing Spock's thoughts, memories and feelings about these people. The difference is, Kollos is warm and open, so Kollos/Spock is, too.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Kollos/Spock acts the way Spock would never have, but when he greets Kirk as his captain and long-time best friend, it's because that's what Kirk is to Spock, obviously. Same with McCoy, he says they're 'also od long acquaintance' (Spock himself is probably not sure if he and McCoy could exactly be called friends). Him greeting Uhura this way can only mean Spock likes her and has thought about her beauty (and even connected it to Byron's poem in his mind) - though he'd never admit it on his own

[TruthFan]

I agree, they both shared the same mind and Spock was speaking his thoughts with the help of the Medusan Ambassador. It's not shown but after Bones says, "That's not Spock!" Spock reminds him that he knows Byron. Then Bones says, "That's Spock!" Looks like Rodenberry was once again showing us what Spock thought of Uhura and getting around the sensors by using Bones to negate it then confirm it. In order to make it seem as if Spock wasn't in control of his mind.

[blkchk]

Yep. Tahnk God times are changing somewhat. No wonder Leonard Nimoy said he "was jealous" when watching the new Spock/Uhura love scenes because he never got to do what they were.

[sondano]

@blkchk He was kidding. Nimoy wouldn't have tolerated such a drastic departure from the essence of the character. He didn't like at all when the original script of All our yesterday made Spock fall in love with Zarabeth just for the hell of it. His input was why they changed the script so Spock would not be himself due to going back 5000 years in time. And he was not fully happy even with that.

Read his book. This Spock/Uhura stuff is baseless cheesy nonsense in JJ's pseudo-Star Wars 90210

[maswellasm]

@sondano This is truth. I hate to crap on pairings, but if you watch (and pay attention) to TOS, you'll see that a) Spock is currently inhabited by an alien and b) Spock and Uhura were not a thing. Ever. From interviews I've read, Nimoy seemed to really dislike it when Spock was written to throw himself all over women (he was supposed to make out with the Rom. Commander, but Nimoy vetoed it in favor of hand kissing). It's just not the nature of Spock, sry dudes.

[tiemedown]

im sure shatner rubbed it in his face that he got to kiss nichelle...poor leonard

[blkchk]

Yeah, but I have to say...although I love Kirk and Shatner's portrayal of it, Nimoy just seems to be a nicer person. I know a theater director who worked with him in Boston and said he is the nicest and most serene person. If there was a popularity contest between Shatner and Nimoy (not their characters) I'll bet Nimoy would win. He has my vote in any case.

[tiemedown]

aww i love shatner, they compliment each other well, being the stereotypical introvert/extrovert partnership ( you cant leave out dekelley tho he was apparently an absolute lamb)

[Delisle4]

@blkchk

Wow!!..once again, thank you for the insider information. There is no denying it now!!

[TruthFan]

LOL, Spock was always smiling at Uhura.

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

"Is There In Truth No Beauty"

Spock has mind-melded with Medusan ambassador Kollos, that is why he is so warm and open about his feelings for his friends, and why McCoy is confused whether this is or isn't Spock.

The entire Kollos-Spock mind-meld scene is on Youtube

[MilkaGee]

I love these too together. I'm a new shipper in count of the movie. I also em very interested in the original series in count of them. Love em! :)

[smillernewmom]

How funny! I'm all interested in the original show because of Spock and Uhura. And I was fully expecting Kirk and Uhura romance. Nice little twist!

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Sadly there were not many moments like this, and her role was generally very small in TOS. Apparently there was a bit of backstory written for them initially as friendship/attraction but they didn't really develop it on the show because of 1960s racism and network pressure. The network was always pressuring them to minimize her role, and Roddenberry barely managed to keep her on the show. ;(

[newvids818]

And don't forget she was going to quit the show, and MLK told her "No"!

[MilkaGee]

Hi, um This maybe a dumb Question and I have a feeling it is. But who is MLK? o.0

[lillyduh4u]

marthin luther king

[TruthFan]

For FUCK SAKE!

[shia146]

there's no such thing as a dumb question

[LyssaMayJellybeans]

Hee I love these two! So awesome.

So funny to see so many new shippers appearing because of the new movie!

[wickedfeylady]

Love this pairing!! The new movie totally cements it

[FrakkinToasterLuvva]

Ha, ha, I love that scene.

"And Uhura... which name means freedom. 'She walks in beauty like the night..."

"That's not Spock!"

"Are you surprised to find that I have read Byron, doctor?"

"That's Spock!"

[takineko]

aww now I wish the clip was complete hahaha

[zizyi]

I was Team Kirk/Uhura before I saw the movie but now I'm a believer <3 Great pairing

[TruthFan]

Yeah I was too, its almost as if someone was reading my mind and said, "you want them together ok we'll do that."

[pumnkingusti]

lmao. I remember watching it with my dad and older brother, and ever since the episode where Uhura sings about Spock, I thought they had something. It was violently denied by every male trekkie I know, but... the new movie makes me so happy. :)

[TruthFan]

I thought it was obvious that Uhura and Spock had a chemistry and that it would have been a great story line to get them together. But I agree Abrams took this where it should have gone. I was giddy like a school girl when I saw them kiss in the turbo lift. It just blew my mind when they were kissing on the teleporter pad with his hand on her hip. YAY BABY! Men are clueless when it comes to flirting. So not surprised they didn't notice Uhura flirting with Spock. Just like Spock. LOL

[newvids818]

Spock is a ladies man. Not only Uhura, but what about Nurse Chapel!

[TruthFan]

With Nurse Chapel it seemed more one sided. She had a huge crush on him but it wasn't mutual. He did have respect for her though.

[MissMael]

I always felt a bit heartbroken on Chapels behalf but she was a dignified woman who didn't throw herself after someone she couldn't have.

[blkchk]

Yes, Nurse Chapel was annoying to me. She totally drooled after Spock but it wasn't reciprocated. I mean, you don't see Nurse Chapel playing the Vulcan harp, do you? But he did respect her (probably felt a little sorry for her also).

[Delisle4]

@blkchk

It's funny but I never would even entertain the idea of Spock and Chapel together. Chapel was very emotional and needy and I think Spock could not give her what she needed. With Uhura, I sense that the Spock connected with her at a deep visceral level. She was much more independent and would not smother him to death like nurse Chapel. I agree with you, he felt sorry for nurse Chapel and so would talk to her to be polite.

[blkchk]

After watching the Extras on the dvd of the new Star Trek movie, I am more convinced than ever of the Spock/Uhura pairing (not that I needed convincing, but nice to hear Nimoy and one of the writers, an avid Star Trek fan, confirm it).

[Delisle4]

@blkchk

Thank you for your comment. I have not seen the DVD extras but if Nimoy and one of the writers confirmed it then there you go. I sense that if the original show had been around for one more season, they would have most likely explored that relationship. At least now with the Star Trek movie, that affair has come to light.

[zutariangirl123]

LOL. well, i didn't watch the original series until up to now. i love the new movie, though. <3

[TheAngelSpeaks15]

love love LOVE this pairing. best i've seen, yet.

[LightningLice]

That's not Spock!