I think the II has more gain on tap, more gain is not always better. if the amp has a good tone there's no reason to distort it. Trying dialing back t he gain a notch or two on the II and you may like your tone a bit more
@YH55 perceptually id disagree with the II having more gain, in in terms of circuitry too it actually does technically have less gain. I appreciate the comment!
@mgdth502 I am interested if you still have it available. I sent you a message on your page so feel free to respond if it's still available. Thanks Mgdth.
@brmoore18 the 5150 II actually physically in the amps inside has less gain than the 5150. no debate, it's fact. not by much but the 5150 is "higher gain". not to say the 5150 II isn't a better amp. that's up to you :)
If you dont like your amp, buy another one. if you dont like that, buy a whole shitload of pedals. if you dont like that, build your own fucking amp. at the end of the day, they aint making amps to fit your shoe size, if it aint perfect, make your own.
the 5150 II beats the 5150 for one reason and one reason only, it has alot more gain than the first and it has a crunch channel, thats it. Peavey wanted to make a heavier more mainstream eddie van halen amp and they did. I can't complain, my 5150 II has shown up alot of other amps and i've had no problems playing live. It just seems to me that the only difference between the 5150 and 5150 II (other than the gain difference) is the crunch channel. people make such a big deal.
the original 5150 has the most gain. the II has less and now the III has even less. Consitentaly with each new version it has slightly less gain and gets brighter. I can tell you this from owning both as well as knowing people who take apart these amps for a living. the II by NO MEANS has more gain than the original sorry bro.
the two amp have identical circuits, excepted for the clean channel, the 5150II / 6505+ have one more preamp tube, better cleans. But the distortion (lead channel) is the exactly the same. The sound difference is due to the tubes, even if you use the same brand each tube has sound different.
Both of these heads sound great at high volume levels and there is a slight tonal differance between the two if cranked around 7. It's not just because of an added channel the 2nd version is differant...
Specs show the first head uses 5 pre-amp with an effects loop, presence knob and high gain switch...The version2 uses 6 pre-amp tubes and a differant routed effects loop (not betewwn the power and pre-amp tubes) a presence knob with two stage crunch and pain switchs...play EVH licks & show us
thinkin...the original is/should sound better...its original tone was based upon evh's hotrodded marshall....the 5150 II was just to add another "cleaner" channel...as with the Fender 5150 III...one clean, one crunch, and one over the top lead...
But all said and done ?...they're all going to sound VERY similiar!!
Just a question. You said the mids were more present on the 5150. Couldn't you adjust your EQ on the 5150II to match the tone of the 5150? Just turn up the mids a bit? Just wondering.
Lol at people saying that everything under C loses tone. I have an original 5150, Schecter C7, a Boss Noise Suppressor and I play in Drop G# tuning. Yeh thats right.
Learn to brutal.
Also, to the dude who made this video, if you havnt got one, I'd invest in a Boss NS2 Noise Suppressor. Will help heaps :)
Both amps are beast. Original wins though I think.
@deathmetalisbetter i've used that, and the isp decimator g string, and the decimator doesn't color the tone like the boss does, and it opens INSTANTLY, unlike the boss.
@mosquitohaterAK Yeh i have both, my ISP was playing up though, so i had to revert back to Boss. I prefer the ISP, cos in the genre of music i play there's a lot of choppy sections, and the Decimator really compliments that, but for the price i paid, its not being very reliable lol.
@snapascrew you live in canada so you must be playing in A, haha yes cheesey but had to be said, no really good vid man. haha and good comeback to the other guy.
@megaluisdeth Well I don't have anything against drop tuning, it's just I think guitars were made to stay in standard, E flat, or drop D. I play in low drop tunings all the time. Hell, I play in drop A on my Strat with 9's. I always end up back in standard though. I just think it's more tasteful in standard. You can still play heavy stuff in standard. Most people seem to think otherwise.
@CyValkarion Yea I think playing anything under C standard starts losing tone. Yea but I think a amp review should be in E standard since most people have their guitars tuned to that. Yea but it's just metalcore/Modern People don't have enough skill like Dave Mustaine to make heavy stuff on E standard.
@megaluisdeth most people who have 5150's don't play in standard tuning to be honest. and "heavy" is subjective. I don't think anything from Dave Mustaine is heavy at all.
@megaluisdeth Actually contrary to your fan boy rage speeking (don't get bummed out im a fanboy of a few bands too) I have a great ear and have a part time job sound engineering and am goin to school for it, I value your opinion tho! (not really... Get the fuck off my page)
@snapascrew That's a terrible generalization. "most people who have 5150's don't play in standard tuning to be honest." complete bullshit. It's not a strictly metal amp. Sure it has more gain than you'll ever need, but it's stupid to make generalizations like that.
@megaluisdeth Not true at all. You just need thicker strings. I normally use 10-42 and tune to D standard/drop C, but I got some a couple sets of 13-56 and am in Bb standard. Once you get past that, though, you'll want an extended scale length. Ion Dissonance tunes to D# standard...just saying.
@dnkzz That's fine. I have absolutely nothing against ERG's. In fact I have more respect for ERG players because not only is it more theory to worry about, but you're always gettin flak from idiots who hate on ERG's for no reason.
@JoeBerlinGuitar Forget what I used at the time. I currently still play in drop C and just use 11-48 ernie balls. bigger strings produce a sometimes nicer tone but I like to have a very powerful vibrato so i keep them a little thinner.
I have a 5150 II head and a 5150 combo. I've heard the original 5150 heads and I like them all. However I think that the 5150 II is much cleaner. It doesn't have quite the gain as the original and the combo do. Either way these are bad ass amps!
very Im getting myself a 6505+ 112 combo tomorrow with a free MXR Wylde OD all for $550 brand new tommorow on black friday, happy thanksgivin from massachussetts and good video!!!
@78LilRedExpress440 good deal and happy thanksgiving to you (that caught me off guard because we had our thanks giving in Canada like a month or so back)
@78LilRedExpress440 at the time only the 5150 II was mine, now the dude filming owns it and I own his old original 5150. had a little trade! and now we're both much happier!
@TheTK9787 I don't know how a comment like this can get me so furious but it has. Only 1 head was mine which I got a deal on, the cab was cheap and a piece of shit, and I play more then rhythm it's a fucking amp comparison not a shred off you stupid fucking retarded piece of shit.
The reason you think the II sounds better is because you dont have the right tubes. My guitar teacher said he go it original from evh but evh had jay jay tubes in it he said he started putting jay jay tubes in all his other amps he said it makes all the diffrence in the world
@codecougar I can't remember and unless you have my guitar, the heads, and my same cab (which i hope you don't cuz the cab i was using was crap) it wont matter :)
@codecougar what cab you got and what speakers I should be of some help... with the 6505+ when I had it I remember liking the pre gain around 7 at most... probably 6 in a band situation.. presence i forget, resonence like 6-7 or so.... I like most of the settings at 6 to be honest :P besides post gain, that at 3.
I have an Earcandy Buzzbomb 2X12. I am currently running the pre gain at 7 and the post gain at 2 or whatever my ears can stand. resonance and presence both at 6. Low, Mid, High all at 5. So, sounds like I am close at least. Thanks!
@1237272827483 I sold the 5150 II and only have the original 5150 now... I'm going to start saving for an axe fx once I finish saving for a TV. Once I get the axe fx and the matching powered cabinet I will sell the 5150 head... to my friend whom I promised it to for 650 Canadian dollars.
@snapascrew lol got it on sale for $880 i would gladly trade it for a better amp i have a 75watt line 6 i hate it. but do you know were i can find one of these in the windsor area?
@Chanocksanchez it's really personal pref man. the original is a bit more ballsy but also looser. my favorite happy medium of tightness and balls is teh original with an overdrive boost because where the II is already tighter it's not as pissed off sounding.
@slimmetalpickin the exchange rate fluctuates every minute of the day. 650 canadian dollars is currently 610 american dollars. ($10 dollars USA is $10.65 canadian)
@Nandwar213 lol it was a strange feeling... I had a cold so i was a bit ticked... had two awesome amps so i was happy... playing them throguh a crappy cab so i was mad... and I was wearing a tuque hat! all at the same time LOL
@Nandwar213 I found a deal on teh 5150 II... and when I later bought the original off my friend who filmed this he gave it to me for 470... it needed a new pot, some gernral maintence (tubes) and that was it
@ibruse I don't remember but my current settings for the 5150 (since I traded my 5150 II for it) are Pre 5.5 Low 6 Mid 5.5 high 5.8 or so res 6 pres 4
sounds like a touch more upper mids and treble in the 2. I may be trading my bias modified 5150 or the bias modified II. I also have a rect-o-verb and a XXX head plus a 5150 combo.I like the combo better than the head. Better compression.
@snapascrew yeah i don't mind the speakers but, i prefer greenbacks or V30's. I have the bias point's at the same 36ma for all my amps though and the combo still just has a smoother sound and feel. i do more shred type stuff so that works for me. the 5150 heads are meaner but, the XXX are meaner still to me anyway. I hate the cosmetics of the XXX thou so i always mod that...stupid mudflap girl...GAY.
@silasmcleoud at the time, originals from 1992! just recently put shugaung 12ax7's in the preamp section (except for the phase inverter where I put a sovtek 12ax7 LPS) and TAD 6l6's
@snapascrew they alsostarted putting lower quality caps and resistors in the 6505 series and dropped the bias points which affect the tone. I've owned all of them and there is definitely a difference tonaly in the 5150's unfortunately. It's not something that can't be fixed. Yes they're the same circuit and layout but, changing the componants alters the tone. the 6505 series sounds more tinny and open while the 5150 series is more compressed and focused.
@snapascrew a good cap and resistor mod coupled with a bias lift gets them up to par though and if you can do it yourself it's only about a $20 job which is why alof of pros record with 5150's and used 6505's live. Other's still just do what i do and mod the few cheap caps and resistor and allow for burn in time. Otherwise though they're clones to a T
@loplod1 the original is the darkest and fattest. the 5150 II is brighter and a little thinner. then the fender is the thinnest and brightest of them all (the 5150 III) so stick with the 5150 original
@NevvyC well KsE has been seen in previous years using the original 5150 and I don't ever recall them using 5150 II's and I currently have the original and sold the 5150 II (me and the dude in the video actually traded!) and agree that the original 5150 (when boosted) is your best cheap ticket to KsE tone.
@snapascrew this is why people hate America (and now Canada...!) everything is so much cheaper over there! a 5150 in this country would set you back 600quid which is 964CAD!
@NevvyC used it would cost that much? man that sucks... gosh... somebody should start a business over here buying amps for people like you and shipping them to you so you don't have to pay quite as much!
@crate718 ahahaha I go to your page and I see all your recent comments are on 5150 videos saying the same thing "you're shit take lessons" and I see Jerry from FJA mods owning you... btw I love your videos man you're way better at playing the guitar than me... also this video was for sure a show case of my guitar playing and not the amp....(read the title of the video moron)
I think the II has more gain on tap, more gain is not always better. if the amp has a good tone there's no reason to distort it. Trying dialing back t he gain a notch or two on the II and you may like your tone a bit more
YH55 3 days ago
@YH55 perceptually id disagree with the II having more gain, in in terms of circuitry too it actually does technically have less gain. I appreciate the comment!
snapascrew 3 days ago
sounds like a bag of spanners mate. You may want to mic it up next time ? shame as sounds like you can play
UKToneKing 1 month ago
@UKToneKing unfortunately currently don't own either of these amps :(
snapascrew 1 month ago
Which CAB did you use?
fabiobegro 2 months ago
@fabiobegro it was a behringer lol
snapascrew 2 months ago
@snapascrew It wasn't sooo bad..! Not awesome, but cheap and nice.. :)
fabiobegro 2 months ago
@fabiobegro I've got a mesa traditional cab now :D
snapascrew 2 months ago
would this head be awesome for genres ssuch as posthardcore hardcore metalcore? bands such as ofmachines ofmiceandmen thedevilwearsprada confide?
joshcravesheartcore 2 months ago
@joshcravesheartcore most definitely sir
JHdgsn903 2 months ago
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hey can you tell me the settings on the 5150? thats the one i have, the origonal 5150
HELLSPAWN19922007 3 months ago
hey can you tell me the settings on the 5150? thats the one i have, the origonal 5150
HELLSPAWN19922007 3 months ago
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I'm selling one of these 5150IIs for 650 if anybody is interested!
It's clean and plays perfectly, I got it to play live with and just haven't used it. Probably an hour of play time!
mgdth502 4 months ago
@mgdth502 I am interested if you still have it available. I sent you a message on your page so feel free to respond if it's still available. Thanks Mgdth.
Rocco11510 3 months ago
I smiled at the "This Is Absolution" part. :-D
KsE is the SHIT!
Irock124 4 months ago
It sounds like the original has more feedback???
pirateboy12 4 months ago
@pirateboy12 well it's a higher gain head so ya naturally it would feedback more with identical settings.
snapascrew 4 months ago
when you started playing the ghost inside i got stoked and stoped caring about the tone comparrison haha
mil182 5 months ago
5150 rulez!!!!!! sound modern, agresive, in standard tune is great... in low tune is PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!
AdrianSmith2000 6 months ago
did you think i should buy used peavey 6505+ for 800$
ILikeToPlayGuitarToo 6 months ago
@ILikeToPlayGuitarToo yes i do
snapascrew 6 months ago
Definitely has more gain (5150 II)
brmoore18 5 months ago
@brmoore18 the 5150 II actually physically in the amps inside has less gain than the 5150. no debate, it's fact. not by much but the 5150 is "higher gain". not to say the 5150 II isn't a better amp. that's up to you :)
snapascrew 5 months ago
If you dont like your amp, buy another one. if you dont like that, buy a whole shitload of pedals. if you dont like that, build your own fucking amp. at the end of the day, they aint making amps to fit your shoe size, if it aint perfect, make your own.
bigwhytes 6 months ago
the 5150 II beats the 5150 for one reason and one reason only, it has alot more gain than the first and it has a crunch channel, thats it. Peavey wanted to make a heavier more mainstream eddie van halen amp and they did. I can't complain, my 5150 II has shown up alot of other amps and i've had no problems playing live. It just seems to me that the only difference between the 5150 and 5150 II (other than the gain difference) is the crunch channel. people make such a big deal.
bigwhytes 6 months ago
@bigwhytes okay, no.
the original 5150 has the most gain. the II has less and now the III has even less. Consitentaly with each new version it has slightly less gain and gets brighter. I can tell you this from owning both as well as knowing people who take apart these amps for a living. the II by NO MEANS has more gain than the original sorry bro.
snapascrew 6 months ago
man wow thw amp is realy clipping that cam lol
MrGoth777 6 months ago
what tuning are you playing in ?
lintball0190 7 months ago
if that's a EC-1000 that's a sweet guitar ! lol. I played one today. I'm getting a MH1000...same thing but with an Ibanez style body and a trem
lintball0190 7 months ago
did the 5150 come with the 3 button footswitch with the crunch button ?
lintball0190 7 months ago
Wow! Great sound.
I like it.
thetsp 7 months ago
the two amp have identical circuits, excepted for the clean channel, the 5150II / 6505+ have one more preamp tube, better cleans. But the distortion (lead channel) is the exactly the same. The sound difference is due to the tubes, even if you use the same brand each tube has sound different.
zerogravity121 7 months ago
thumbs up for playing faith or forgivness in the beginning.
rialtoisghetto 7 months ago
Faith or Forgiveness!
PenguinTeaser 7 months ago
this is absolution!!! :D
DemmelitionMan95 8 months ago
the reason the II sounds better in this video is camera positioning, the 5150/6505 is by far the heavier amp
xxc3lld4m4gexx 9 months ago
@xxc3lld4m4gexx "heavier" and "better" are two different things... not to mention there's no indefinite "better"
snapascrew 9 months ago
@snapascrew agreed...i never said better, just heavier...lol
xxc3lld4m4gexx 9 months ago
@xxc3lld4m4gexx "the reason the II sounds better in this vid" - you hahaha look at your comment again :P
snapascrew 9 months ago
Woohoo killswitch!
Zacafratz17 9 months ago
woah! Half stack in the closet! never thought of that. thank you sir
TheNohcim 9 months ago
The original (at least in this clip) sounds darker.
ems81ar 10 months ago 2
Both of these heads sound great at high volume levels and there is a slight tonal differance between the two if cranked around 7. It's not just because of an added channel the 2nd version is differant...
Specs show the first head uses 5 pre-amp with an effects loop, presence knob and high gain switch...The version2 uses 6 pre-amp tubes and a differant routed effects loop (not betewwn the power and pre-amp tubes) a presence knob with two stage crunch and pain switchs...play EVH licks & show us
JBL8863 11 months ago
@JBL8863 7 on the post gain? and why would I play van halen licks.. just cuz it's his amp? no it's my amp.
snapascrew 11 months ago 7
thinkin...the original is/should sound better...its original tone was based upon evh's hotrodded marshall....the 5150 II was just to add another "cleaner" channel...as with the Fender 5150 III...one clean, one crunch, and one over the top lead...
But all said and done ?...they're all going to sound VERY similiar!!
rcrinlv02 11 months ago
Just a question. You said the mids were more present on the 5150. Couldn't you adjust your EQ on the 5150II to match the tone of the 5150? Just turn up the mids a bit? Just wondering.
iamjohnday 11 months ago
Word up for The Ghost Inside!
Stevewearspiranna 1 year ago
Lol at people saying that everything under C loses tone. I have an original 5150, Schecter C7, a Boss Noise Suppressor and I play in Drop G# tuning. Yeh thats right.
Learn to brutal.
Also, to the dude who made this video, if you havnt got one, I'd invest in a Boss NS2 Noise Suppressor. Will help heaps :)
Both amps are beast. Original wins though I think.
deathmetalisbetter 1 year ago
@deathmetalisbetter Drop g# holy fuck o.o
metalrulez907 1 year ago
@metalrulez907 Yeh dude. Its heavy as fuck. And my sound is one of the clearest.
Dont need the gain on 11 to sound good ;)
I run mine on 5.5 and its great.
deathmetalisbetter 1 year ago
@deathmetalisbetter i've used that, and the isp decimator g string, and the decimator doesn't color the tone like the boss does, and it opens INSTANTLY, unlike the boss.
mosquitohaterAK 10 months ago
@mosquitohaterAK Yeh i have both, my ISP was playing up though, so i had to revert back to Boss. I prefer the ISP, cos in the genre of music i play there's a lot of choppy sections, and the Decimator really compliments that, but for the price i paid, its not being very reliable lol.
deathmetalisbetter 10 months ago
@deathmetalisbetter dude, that sucks.. i love mine to death. what exactly is it doing, though?
mosquitohaterAK 10 months ago
Am I the only one who think this megaluisdeth dude should change his name to megadouchesgetalife?
deadmetal5000 1 year ago
what do you have all the knobs set to if you dont mind me asking on the old 5150?
undercityskies661 1 year ago
The tones change drastically as the other guy moves the camera around, that's your main difference.
OliverKlohzoff 1 year ago
Why can't anyone play in standard tuning?
CyValkarion 1 year ago 3
@CyValkarion I live in Canada, we have rules and regulations in this country.
snapascrew 1 year ago 8
@snapascrew Best response ever.
theallmightyham 1 year ago
@snapascrew You're funny.
CyValkarion 1 year ago
@snapascrew you live in canada so you must be playing in A, haha yes cheesey but had to be said, no really good vid man. haha and good comeback to the other guy.
bianchiniman 11 months ago
@bianchiniman I don't get it.
snapascrew 11 months ago
@bianchiniman OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
snapascrew 11 months ago
@snapascrew Haha, too funny!
bianchiniman 11 months ago
@CyValkarion Cause it's modern....or something.
megaluisdeth 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth I say play in standard like a real guitarist. -.-
CyValkarion 1 year ago
@CyValkarion I guess but most Modern/Metalcore music are tuned down. I prefer to play in E flat or E.
megaluisdeth 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth Well I don't have anything against drop tuning, it's just I think guitars were made to stay in standard, E flat, or drop D. I play in low drop tunings all the time. Hell, I play in drop A on my Strat with 9's. I always end up back in standard though. I just think it's more tasteful in standard. You can still play heavy stuff in standard. Most people seem to think otherwise.
CyValkarion 1 year ago
@CyValkarion Yea I think playing anything under C standard starts losing tone. Yea but I think a amp review should be in E standard since most people have their guitars tuned to that. Yea but it's just metalcore/Modern People don't have enough skill like Dave Mustaine to make heavy stuff on E standard.
megaluisdeth 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth most people who have 5150's don't play in standard tuning to be honest. and "heavy" is subjective. I don't think anything from Dave Mustaine is heavy at all.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew Cause you're a mother fucking pussy, you have a rotten ear.
megaluisdeth 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth
I'm with snapascrew on this one... Megadeth is a pretty okay band, I like certain songs a lot, but they aren't particulary heavy in my opinion.
Behindspace90 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth Actually contrary to your fan boy rage speeking (don't get bummed out im a fanboy of a few bands too) I have a great ear and have a part time job sound engineering and am goin to school for it, I value your opinion tho! (not really... Get the fuck off my page)
snapascrew 1 year ago
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@snapascrew That's a terrible generalization. "most people who have 5150's don't play in standard tuning to be honest." complete bullshit. It's not a strictly metal amp. Sure it has more gain than you'll ever need, but it's stupid to make generalizations like that.
CyValkarion 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth Not true at all. You just need thicker strings. I normally use 10-42 and tune to D standard/drop C, but I got some a couple sets of 13-56 and am in Bb standard. Once you get past that, though, you'll want an extended scale length. Ion Dissonance tunes to D# standard...just saying.
ziddy5 1 year ago
@megaluisdeth one word. GOJIRA!!
stringsofdeath 1 year ago
@CyValkarion i play in standard for 7 strings ::)
dnkzz 1 year ago
@dnkzz That's fine. I have absolutely nothing against ERG's. In fact I have more respect for ERG players because not only is it more theory to worry about, but you're always gettin flak from idiots who hate on ERG's for no reason.
CyValkarion 1 year ago
the 2 sounds a bit more "mesa rec ish"
solidsnakec20 1 year ago
I think sick tone gives more confidence to the player.
These tones are amazing for camera quality. I would love to have either the 5150 or the 5150 II; both are dirty amps.
PS, hope you're fans of TDWP and ABR, masters of these tones :P
Natesmitguitar 1 year ago
another 1thousend
XxCLOWNxKINGxX 1 year ago
u play badass but how do u get 56,684 views?
XxCLOWNxKINGxX 1 year ago
@XxCLOWNxKINGxX peavey 5150 vs 5150 II is a very common topic....
snapascrew 1 year ago 2
what tunin u in
JoeBerlinGuitar 1 year ago
@JoeBerlinGuitar Drop C
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew
are they thick ass strings? it looks like a les paul scale neck so i imagine theyd need to be pretty large gauge
JoeBerlinGuitar 1 year ago
@JoeBerlinGuitar Forget what I used at the time. I currently still play in drop C and just use 11-48 ernie balls. bigger strings produce a sometimes nicer tone but I like to have a very powerful vibrato so i keep them a little thinner.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew I use the same guage on my eclipse :)
UnconciousHippie 1 year ago
u still didn't get better lol
crate718 1 year ago
I have a 5150 II head and a 5150 combo. I've heard the original 5150 heads and I like them all. However I think that the 5150 II is much cleaner. It doesn't have quite the gain as the original and the combo do. Either way these are bad ass amps!
hinson5150 1 year ago
I rather the 5150II.
themodernguitarist 1 year ago
mmm loved that 5150 II sound
FeelMetalMan 1 year ago
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FeelMetalMan 1 year ago
5150 rulezzz :) I have one too :)
Hanyzzz 1 year ago
Hello fellow Canadian.... what speakers are in that cab?
Coonetta 1 year ago
@Coonetta pieces of garbagee idk i use mesa cabs now
snapascrew 1 year ago
the 2 sounds more lika a mesa
solidsnakec20 1 year ago
very Im getting myself a 6505+ 112 combo tomorrow with a free MXR Wylde OD all for $550 brand new tommorow on black friday, happy thanksgivin from massachussetts and good video!!!
78LilRedExpress440 1 year ago
@78LilRedExpress440 good deal and happy thanksgiving to you (that caught me off guard because we had our thanks giving in Canada like a month or so back)
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew thanks have fun with those nice 5150's those arent cheap amps really lucky to have two of em
78LilRedExpress440 1 year ago
@78LilRedExpress440 at the time only the 5150 II was mine, now the dude filming owns it and I own his old original 5150. had a little trade! and now we're both much happier!
snapascrew 1 year ago
Bluddy strange outfit u got there. Green silk shorts, t-shirt . . and a beanie? WTF ARE YOU ON lol
TheHungryShredder1 1 year ago
@TheHungryShredder1 lol i can't even reply b/c there is no answer.
snapascrew 1 year ago
thumbs up for mr. potato head
SethYoda71 1 year ago 28
great video,the sound is just right(I have heard this amp live several times)
for me the 5150v1 is better even on the video
MoyNickZanyatBlyat 1 year ago
haha the ghost inside riff
oh and invest in a noise suppressor son
ISP Decimator 4 life NIGGER!
AdamAffliction 1 year ago
@AdamAffliction I've got an ISP.
snapascrew 1 year ago
Why spend all the money on that equipment if you just do rhythm?
TheTK9787 1 year ago
@TheTK9787 I don't know how a comment like this can get me so furious but it has. Only 1 head was mine which I got a deal on, the cab was cheap and a piece of shit, and I play more then rhythm it's a fucking amp comparison not a shred off you stupid fucking retarded piece of shit.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew Says the guy who only knows how to play power chords
TheTK9787 1 year ago
@TheTK9787 says the guy who's got no videos of himself playing. ahahaha you fucknig pussy.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@TheTK9787 you FAIL. good equipment is essential to everyone.
XxPatrickPradaxX 1 year ago
@XxPatrickPradaxX what I got personally out of that was, "yes snapascrew sucks but everyones allowed to have good equipment" lolololol
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew hahaha!! totally not what I meant!! sorry bro!! You don't suck at all lol
XxPatrickPradaxX 1 year ago
@allanef Yeah thats what eddie does hes the one that told my teacher about it
Ericclapton325 1 year ago
The reason you think the II sounds better is because you dont have the right tubes. My guitar teacher said he go it original from evh but evh had jay jay tubes in it he said he started putting jay jay tubes in all his other amps he said it makes all the diffrence in the world
Ericclapton325 1 year ago
Can you post the settings used for the amps including resonance and presence?
codecougar 1 year ago
@codecougar I can't remember and unless you have my guitar, the heads, and my same cab (which i hope you don't cuz the cab i was using was crap) it wont matter :)
snapascrew 1 year ago
true, just wondering. I just got a 6505+ and wondering how people set the pre and post gain and resonance and presence settings. thanks anyway.
codecougar 1 year ago
@codecougar what cab you got and what speakers I should be of some help... with the 6505+ when I had it I remember liking the pre gain around 7 at most... probably 6 in a band situation.. presence i forget, resonence like 6-7 or so.... I like most of the settings at 6 to be honest :P besides post gain, that at 3.
snapascrew 1 year ago
I have an Earcandy Buzzbomb 2X12. I am currently running the pre gain at 7 and the post gain at 2 or whatever my ears can stand. resonance and presence both at 6. Low, Mid, High all at 5. So, sounds like I am close at least. Thanks!
codecougar 1 year ago
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first edition the best i had one. for life. 5150! real amp! nice video and compare.
francoizzz 1 year ago
first edition the best i had one. for life. 5150! real amp!
francoizzz 1 year ago
what will it take to make you sell one of them?
1237272827483 1 year ago
@1237272827483 I sold the 5150 II and only have the original 5150 now... I'm going to start saving for an axe fx once I finish saving for a TV. Once I get the axe fx and the matching powered cabinet I will sell the 5150 head... to my friend whom I promised it to for 650 Canadian dollars.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew =-O we should trade ill give u my 52" plasma for the amp
1237272827483 1 year ago
@1237272827483 too big of a tv and i don't like plasmas plus man a 52" plasma is worth more then a 5150
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew lol got it on sale for $880 i would gladly trade it for a better amp i have a 75watt line 6 i hate it. but do you know were i can find one of these in the windsor area?
1237272827483 1 year ago
@1237272827483 a 5150? nah man
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew Which one would you say is the best when it comes to "Metal-core"?
Chanocksanchez 1 year ago
@Chanocksanchez it's really personal pref man. the original is a bit more ballsy but also looser. my favorite happy medium of tightness and balls is teh original with an overdrive boost because where the II is already tighter it's not as pissed off sounding.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@1237272827483 Isn't 650 Canadian dollars worth about 8 american dollars? lol Good playing young brother. Right on your Killswitch Engage....
slimmetalpickin 1 year ago
@slimmetalpickin the exchange rate fluctuates every minute of the day. 650 canadian dollars is currently 610 american dollars. ($10 dollars USA is $10.65 canadian)
snapascrew 1 year ago
how much will it take to make you sell one of them?
1237272827483 1 year ago
lawl His face is soooo serious looking
Nandwar213 1 year ago
@Nandwar213 lol it was a strange feeling... I had a cold so i was a bit ticked... had two awesome amps so i was happy... playing them throguh a crappy cab so i was mad... and I was wearing a tuque hat! all at the same time LOL
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew Haha Two epic amps indeed, Im way to poor to play on either hah
Nandwar213 1 year ago
@Nandwar213 I found a deal on teh 5150 II... and when I later bought the original off my friend who filmed this he gave it to me for 470... it needed a new pot, some gernral maintence (tubes) and that was it
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew Haha Nice, Still $500 is alot haha. I've been playing on El'cheapo Bass amps
Nandwar213 1 year ago
Thanks! (: nice Video
ibruse 1 year ago
Amp Settings Please (:
ibruse 1 year ago
@ibruse I don't remember but my current settings for the 5150 (since I traded my 5150 II for it) are Pre 5.5 Low 6 Mid 5.5 high 5.8 or so res 6 pres 4
hope that helps
snapascrew 1 year ago
sounds like a touch more upper mids and treble in the 2. I may be trading my bias modified 5150 or the bias modified II. I also have a rect-o-verb and a XXX head plus a 5150 combo.I like the combo better than the head. Better compression.
diesect33 1 year ago
@diesect33 ya i've heard the combo is biased hotter.. but i hate the speakers... yuck
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew yeah i don't mind the speakers but, i prefer greenbacks or V30's. I have the bias point's at the same 36ma for all my amps though and the combo still just has a smoother sound and feel. i do more shred type stuff so that works for me. the 5150 heads are meaner but, the XXX are meaner still to me anyway. I hate the cosmetics of the XXX thou so i always mod that...stupid mudflap girl...GAY.
diesect33 1 year ago
i think the 5150 sounds better in this. i had a 5150II.
xblackiris10x 1 year ago
What type of tubes do you have in the original 5150?
silasmcleoud 1 year ago
@silasmcleoud at the time, originals from 1992! just recently put shugaung 12ax7's in the preamp section (except for the phase inverter where I put a sovtek 12ax7 LPS) and TAD 6l6's
snapascrew 1 year ago
what's up with the Mr.Potato head?
deadandmobile 1 year ago
@deadandmobile Alex Lifeson. lol
snapascrew 1 year ago
I was playing this amp at my cousins the other day, and it was saweeeet, it sounded so amazing right on bro
ReebHound 1 year ago
@ReebHound
GADYEL57 1 year ago
You need to a get a 6505 now... And the 6505+. :)
TheSugarFreedom 1 year ago
@TheSugarFreedom lol 5150 = 6505. 5150 II = 6505+
that's all there is to it. when eddie van halen left peavey he took the rights to the 5150 name but not the design. peavey kept that!
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew they alsostarted putting lower quality caps and resistors in the 6505 series and dropped the bias points which affect the tone. I've owned all of them and there is definitely a difference tonaly in the 5150's unfortunately. It's not something that can't be fixed. Yes they're the same circuit and layout but, changing the componants alters the tone. the 6505 series sounds more tinny and open while the 5150 series is more compressed and focused.
diesect33 1 year ago
@snapascrew a good cap and resistor mod coupled with a bias lift gets them up to par though and if you can do it yourself it's only about a $20 job which is why alof of pros record with 5150's and used 6505's live. Other's still just do what i do and mod the few cheap caps and resistor and allow for burn in time. Otherwise though they're clones to a T
diesect33 1 year ago
im stuck between this n the mesa dual recto. i like the recto better, however in australia its double the price :(
can you answer for me:
which of the two 5150 vs 5150II has a more bassier and darker sound??
i know it sounds stupid but the 5150II looks cooler as it has more dials. more dials also equal more options :p
thanks in advance for a reply
loplod1 1 year ago
@loplod1 the original is the darkest and fattest. the 5150 II is brighter and a little thinner. then the fender is the thinnest and brightest of them all (the 5150 III) so stick with the 5150 original
snapascrew 1 year ago
we will not die this wayyyyyy! ...which amp of these 2 sounds the best for killswitch then? (its hard to tell from a vid)
NevvyC 1 year ago
@NevvyC well KsE has been seen in previous years using the original 5150 and I don't ever recall them using 5150 II's and I currently have the original and sold the 5150 II (me and the dude in the video actually traded!) and agree that the original 5150 (when boosted) is your best cheap ticket to KsE tone.
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew not really cheap though is it! (for a 5150 mk1) unless you're from America or something?
NevvyC 1 year ago
@NevvyC Im from Canada and the 5150 set me back 470 dollars! (very cheap... cheaper then new valve king)
snapascrew 1 year ago
@snapascrew this is why people hate America (and now Canada...!) everything is so much cheaper over there! a 5150 in this country would set you back 600quid which is 964CAD!
NevvyC 1 year ago
@NevvyC used it would cost that much? man that sucks... gosh... somebody should start a business over here buying amps for people like you and shipping them to you so you don't have to pay quite as much!
snapascrew 1 year ago
much appreciated!
crankyrayhanky 1 year ago
you made a good amp, sound like shit, what is wrong with u. Learn to play
crate718 1 year ago
@crate718 ahahaha I go to your page and I see all your recent comments are on 5150 videos saying the same thing "you're shit take lessons" and I see Jerry from FJA mods owning you... btw I love your videos man you're way better at playing the guitar than me... also this video was for sure a show case of my guitar playing and not the amp....(read the title of the video moron)
snapascrew 1 year ago
what cqb are you using?
Mr5150II 1 year ago
@Mr5150II cab *
Mr5150II 1 year ago
settings?
zack987100 1 year ago
sounds like they both make a shit load of noise when you're not playing.
MarilynMansonsVagina 1 year ago
@MarilynMansonsVagina ya they both need suppressors. an ns2 will do for the 5150 II