brothers beware of this fitna zakir nalayak he says physically he(ALLAH swt) is on the top i donno what he means,,,,, it sounds like a he attributing bodily characteristics by using word physically,,,,,,,,, this is fitna IRF zakir nalayak
Losers: Why are you denying the attributes given by Allah in the Noble Quran by Allah Himself? What did Allah say about "Hands" in the Quran? Allah is above His creation as evidenced by the Quran and sunnah. Stop listening to Tahir ul Qadri.
Wahabeez belive " Allah has legs, chest, arms and physically lives on Arsh" in this case wahabeez will accept Dajjal first as their GOD as they already beleive Allah has legs, arms, face, chest etc ... and this is Kuffar ... Allah is matterless because Allah is nothing like anything in the universe and all universe is made up of matter... Real structure of ALLAH is unknown and is beyond horizons of our wits...we can only identify or know about Allah through HIS SIGNS AND ATRIBUTES & QUALITIES
@greatrise First of all there is no sect in Islam called Wahabee. The people whom you are calling Wahabeez would prefer to call themselves as Salafis or just Muslims. Secondly, the hand, leg, arms, face that they believe Allah are metaphorical terms. Salafis believe that Allah is nothing like His creation. Salafiz know all these as they follow Quran and Sunnah only. They are like Ahle Hadees of Arabia.
Mishkot Shreef ma saf Hadees hein ka aik asman k oper dusara asman or 7th asman ka oper ALLAH ha,Arsh pa.Waquie Mahraj ma RASOOL ALLAH(S.A.W.W) ALLAH sa milnay kaha gaya tha?bahi 7th asamn sa oper gaya tha or kaha gya ha,surah MULK ki 17th aya ma bi ata ha ka kia tum bakhoof ho us sa jo asmano ma ha,Quran ma ALLAH na Farmaya ka ma tum ko apni taraf buland ker lo ga,matalb aasman taraf,Quran ma ata ha ka firon na kaha ka mahal tameer kero,ma MUSA(A.S) ka Rub ko dakhna chahta hon.
Allah exist without a place. He does not reside on a Arsh nor is He in direction to the arsh nor is he in every direction . Allah knows about everything and He is everywhere with His Eternal Knowledge and not by His Supreem Self.
"Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six Days. Then He Istawâ (rose over) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). The Most Beneficent (Allâh)! Ask Him (O Prophet Muhammad SAW), (concerning His Qualities, His rising over His Throne, His creations, etc.), as He is Al-Khabîr (The All-Knower of everything i.e. Allâh). " [25:59]
Allah delibretly tells us that he is over the throne!
SORRY NO SUCH THING AS WAHABI IN ISLAM THIS IS THE SHIA AND SUFI TRICK TO SEPERATE THE SUNNI MUSLIMS DONT FALL FOR RAFIDI TRICKS SO CALLED WAHABI NEVER SAY ALLAH HAS A BODY LIKE A HUMAN WE DONT PUT ATTRIBUTES TO HIM WE DONT KNOW HOW HE LOOKS WE KNOW HE GOT HANDS SHIN FACE NOSTRILS BUT THE HOW WE DONT KNOW SO SHIA STOP LYING TO PEOPLE AND ANY EDUCATED PERSON WOULD NOT CALL HIS BROTHER A WAHABI YOU ARE ABUSING ALLAH NAME ABDUL WAHAB WAS JUST A SCHOLOR WHO HATED INNOVATION AND SHIRKBY SHIA
@12hamida "Physically, Allaah is up there"? But Allaah created the Physical and Allah even created the jinn and the angels. I'm not saying that Dr.Zakir Naik is Kaafir but we need to be careful when we use the term "physical".
أحد الصحابة ضرب واحدة من العبيد له , ثم ندم فذهب إلى الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم , فقال له يا رسول الله لقد ضربت أحدى العبيد وأنا اريد أن أكفر عن ذلك فذهب الرسول إلى الأمة فقال لها أين الله , فأشارت بيدها للسماء , فقال له الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم , اعتقها فإنها مؤمنة ,, أنها فطرة فينا أن نؤمن بأن الله عال فوق السماء وليس في كل مكان , ألست إذا أ{دت الدعاء رفعت يديك إلى السماء ؟ , لا تجعل هذا الانسان الذي لا يعرف اللغة العربية ويضللك , اقرا تفاسير ابن كثير والطبري والقرطبي , هؤلاء علماء تفسير ولغة
هؤلاء الذين يقولون أن الله موجود في كل مكان وأقرب إلينا من حبل الوريد لا بد أن يفهم أن الله معنا بعلمه وقدرته وهو في نفس الوقت عال فوق عرشه هل ننكر أن لله يدين
من يفسر أن معنى اليد هي القوة والبطش فما معنى حديث آدم حين قال له الله أختر يا ادم فقال اختار يمين ربي وكلتا يدا ربي يمين ما معنى قول الله لإبليس ما منعك لأن تسجد لما خلقت بيدي هل معناه قوتان بطشان أم ماذا بالضبط
لماذا ننكر شيء وصف الله به نفسه هذا هو طريق السلف في الإيمان بصفات الله تعالى
@mmawer I never said Allah in his creation, may be you are taking my comments wrong. I said Allah is Subhan and how he looks is out of our imagination. He is not physically but Noor ala Noor. In the video I mentioned the Quran Verses, kindly go and check. I think its fine if you just watch the video again and follow Quran verses.
@saahad123 Mishkot Shreef ma saf Hadees hein ka aik asman k oper dusara asman or 7th asman ka oper ALLAH ha,Arsh pa.Waquie Mahraj ma RASOOL ALLAH(S.A.W.W) ALLAH sa milnay kaha gaya tha?bahi 7th asamn sa oper gaya tha or kaha gya ha,surah MULK ki 17th aya ma bi ata ha ka kia tum bakhoof ho us sa jo asmano ma ha,Quran ma ALLAH na Farmaya ka ma tum ko apni taraf buland ker lo ga,matalb aasman taraf,Quran ma ata ha ka firon na kaha ka mahal tameer kero,ma MUSA(A.S) ka Rub ko dakhna chahta hon.
Sorry not wahabi. Allah's of the name is Al Wahhab. And if people calling themselves wahabi why not they called razzaqi or rehmani, because Allah is Razzaq and Rehman. You need more knowledge about it, Wahhabi are calling themselves wahhabi because they follow abdul wahhab's school of thoughts. Thoughts that teaches Allah is physically existed. Allah move from one place to another. They consider Allah has a body like human beings Mazaallah. And who is Yusuf Estes, a Sahabi or a Prophet ?
@saahad123 you are going to be asked about what you said here ,there is not such thing called Wahhabi ,Allah is not his in creation ,go read every Tafsir like al-Tabari or ibn Kathir about the ayaht in your video ,what you are saying is one a big Sin ,you are saying wrong things about Allah,dont listen to me or Dr Zakir Naik , go read the Tafsir of the Qur'an and find for yourself
Don't say Allah in his creation ,see what al-Tabari or ibn Kathir says
"Do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens), will not cause the earth to sink…Or do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens) will not send against you a violent whirlwind?" [67:16-17]
Allah exists without a PLACE...keep this principle in mind...Allah created all places...So Allah cannot be ''''INSIDE""" any of HIS own """CREATED""" places ... so Allah is not Up or Down or everwhere... Zakir Naik and video maker are both totally wrong in this regard ... However, one thing is right ... Allah knows and is everywhere in this world through his knowledge and virtues but not physically for Allah has no physical form...Except Allah everything is created and has starting time...
This is what happens when someone who is clearly NOT a scholar of Islam decides to share his views on matters of the most serious magnitude.
There is NOTHING like unto Him......Our Lord Glorified is He is Far removed and Clear of ALL that they falsely ascribe unto Him Most Exalted Most Gracious is He!
Why is Wahabi movement being critizised for their right stance.Allah eradicated the inovations which filled islam with these people.read the history of the starter of this movement.People who want to stick to their innovations and dreams and their fantacies will reject the truth.Is the society and its innovative culture preventing people from following the actual truth...
@hidhamani Imam Ibn Khuzaymah (RA) (Died 311AH) Said
"Whoever does not affirm that Allah is above His heavens, upon His Throne and that He is distinct from His creation; must be forced to repent. If he does not repent, then he must be beheaded and then thrown into a garbage dump, so that the Muslims and the Ahl-Dhimma (ie Christians and the Jews) will not suffer from his stinking smell." (Al-Hakim in Al-Marifah)
@ignoranceisbad so your saying its your word against Allah's words. allah him self in the quran mentions that he established him self over the throne e.g surah taha 20:5. go study our religion mate
ok what about that Allah said not once not twice but 7 time in Quran that he is above the 3arsh (throne)
you want us believe in your understand and throw the understand of Linguists and Tafsir , is Allah can't said I'm not above the 3arsh , is the Arabic long didn't have word to describe such thing ? why he said 3la it's mean above .. OMG ppl why you are dare to denial something that Allah confirm him 7 time in Quran >
that ayah has nothing to do with allocating a place to Allah
This ayah attributes to Allah Istawaa' over the ^arsh which means that the ^arsh which is the biggest creation, being huge huge huge x 100000000000000 is subjugated by Allah's Power.
So how about everything which is smaller than it ?
Thats why in Surah Maryam, it says what means that everything in the heavens and the earth must come to Allah as slaves
" above " as a physical reference is a totally irrelevant claim
ZAMAN (time),MEKAN(place) are crations of Allah..they are HADIS (They have a beginning and ending). allah however is kadim (no beginning no ending). Allah is greater than time and place...he is not everywhere, its just that time and place doesn't apply for him.. because his creations have a limitation...place has a limitation..saying Allah is in that place is saying that Allah has limitations... (Sherhul-Akaid---Allama Taftazani)
@ignoranceisbad His real name is Sa'duddin Mesud ibn Omar ibn Abdullah al-herevi al-horazani. he was born in the village of Taftazan, so many people called him by Taftazani. He was known for writing great books about ilm-i kalam and ilmi tefsir..
To believe allah is everywhere in a literal sense is the same as to believe he is on or above the throne, but in fact worse in degree of evil. Both claims are making the claim of place for allah and neither claims are from the people of the ahl-us-sunnah wal-jamaa`ah! Also, the claim that allah is everywhere taken in a literal sense is far from the claim of the ash`ari school and such a stance is a major misrepresentation of this school!
Allah is ABOVE His creation, ABOVE His throne, not ON His creation or ON His throne, and He (Ta'ala) descends to the lowest heaven just like he said in a Sahih hadîth without us imagining how or asking how, because it's bid'ah.
Allah existed before he created place, and allah is unceasingly unchanging and exists now as he always existed. Allah existed before he created the throne, and there is a saheeh hadeeth which clearly states the prophet `alayhis-solaatu was-salaam said "There is nothing above allah and there is nothing below allah"...
Also, with regard to the hadeeth about "descending", imaam al-bukhaari himself (the collector of this narration) said it means "The angels are sent to witness..."
> The angels are sent to witness the slaves of allah praying at fajr... How do you accept a narration from imaam al-bukhaari and then neglect his explanation of the same hadeeth? If he is not trustworthy in his explanation, then he is surely not trustworthy in his narrations either, and we know this is not correct. We know imaam al-bukhaari has narrated the hadeeth correctly and has explained it accordingly too. You should not follow the wahhaabiyyah because they are deviated!
Djazaka allahu gayr! I think your answer is the most correct. If I will be asked after my death about this matter, then I will say that I believed that Allah "Istawaa alla arshihi" in a way that fits him, without imagining how.
@easyonetwothree you are saying that allah is above his throne because the throne is there you are saying that allah is restricted by his throne to remain above it. that is incorrect because if that were the case were was allah almighty before he created anything. the hadith does not mean that allah descends astagfirullah it means his blessings his mercy descends.
The Hadîth clearly mentions that ALLAH descends, not His blessings, otherwise Allâh would say that His blessings descend, and not Him, if it were to be Kufr, don't you think Allâh would never reveal it? Would your Lord reveal words of Kufr??? A'udhubillah! Your group is very disturbing.
Understand this hadith as the Salaf understood it, not as your logic understands it.
@easyonetwothree if you say that allah is above his throne like ibn taymiyya said fi nafsi with his essence this is KUFR where was allah existing before he created the throne now there is a throne allah exists above it so allah is limited to his creation astagfirullah allah is independent of his creation he exists not within wat is created
@easyonetwothree why am i ignorant because im correct. allah almighty is LIMITLESS his creation is limited that which is limitless is not bound by the limitless. allah created time and space and hence he exists without it. instead of calling me ignorant why dont u go out and seek the knowledge from a learned scholar of ahle sunnah wal jamaa
´1. Nobody said that Allâh is restricked by His throne to remain there, these are your and your sect's words. Allâh is above His throne in a manner that suits His majesty, just as HE Himself said in the Qur'ân, the prophet ('alayhi salam) in his Sunnah, and the Sahaabah!
2. So what you are saying is that the blessings of Allâh only descend in the last part of the night? Wallâhî ajeeb, O poor us if Allah's blessings were only to descended in that part of the night.
Allah exists without a place. Places only exist because Allah created them. Allah is in no need of any place because he is the creator of places and does not need any of his creations. Allah can not be attributed with directions or contained in a place or space.
Nothing is like Allah, he is the only one worthy of worship, he exists and is attributed with life, knowledge of everything, sight hearing and speech.
Not only do we have verses which say (tranlation) "... allah established himself above the throne...", but we also have verses which say "And allah is closer to you than your jugular vein" and allah is with you wherever you are.
There is also chapter number 3, verse number 7 which refutes those who seek the meanings of these verses. And anyhow, none of these verses can be used to imply place because allah is free from being in need of place and moving around, etc.
brothers beware of this fitna zakir nalayak he says physically he(ALLAH swt) is on the top i donno what he means,,,,, it sounds like a he attributing bodily characteristics by using word physically,,,,,,,,, this is fitna IRF zakir nalayak
REEZU88 4 days ago
surah ta ha verse 5 . arahman ala arsh istawa
izlamiztruth 1 week ago
Гуворо
MrMasomenos 2 weeks ago
Losers: Why are you denying the attributes given by Allah in the Noble Quran by Allah Himself? What did Allah say about "Hands" in the Quran? Allah is above His creation as evidenced by the Quran and sunnah. Stop listening to Tahir ul Qadri.
Truth987ful 3 weeks ago
Wahabeez belive " Allah has legs, chest, arms and physically lives on Arsh" in this case wahabeez will accept Dajjal first as their GOD as they already beleive Allah has legs, arms, face, chest etc ... and this is Kuffar ... Allah is matterless because Allah is nothing like anything in the universe and all universe is made up of matter... Real structure of ALLAH is unknown and is beyond horizons of our wits...we can only identify or know about Allah through HIS SIGNS AND ATRIBUTES & QUALITIES
greatrise 1 month ago
@greatrise First of all there is no sect in Islam called Wahabee. The people whom you are calling Wahabeez would prefer to call themselves as Salafis or just Muslims. Secondly, the hand, leg, arms, face that they believe Allah are metaphorical terms. Salafis believe that Allah is nothing like His creation. Salafiz know all these as they follow Quran and Sunnah only. They are like Ahle Hadees of Arabia.
Asemahdi3 1 month ago
HASR TAK DAALEIN GEH HUM PAIDASH MAWLA KI DOOM
MISL FARIS NAJD KE KILLEH GHIRAATEH JAAEIN GEH
mohabbah 3 months ago
zakir "naik" is kafir, he has done it many times.. who idiot can deny that,
shirk tehre jis mein ta'zeem e Habib
uss bure mazhab pe LA'NAT kijiye!
mohabbah 3 months ago
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mrhanifa100 4 months ago
Mishkot Shreef ma saf Hadees hein ka aik asman k oper dusara asman or 7th asman ka oper ALLAH ha,Arsh pa.Waquie Mahraj ma RASOOL ALLAH(S.A.W.W) ALLAH sa milnay kaha gaya tha?bahi 7th asamn sa oper gaya tha or kaha gya ha,surah MULK ki 17th aya ma bi ata ha ka kia tum bakhoof ho us sa jo asmano ma ha,Quran ma ALLAH na Farmaya ka ma tum ko apni taraf buland ker lo ga,matalb aasman taraf,Quran ma ata ha ka firon na kaha ka mahal tameer kero,ma MUSA(A.S) ka Rub ko dakhna chahta hon.
razi7172 4 months ago
Allah exist without a place. He does not reside on a Arsh nor is He in direction to the arsh nor is he in every direction . Allah knows about everything and He is everywhere with His Eternal Knowledge and not by His Supreem Self.
albulghariyy 4 months ago
"Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six Days. Then He Istawâ (rose over) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). The Most Beneficent (Allâh)! Ask Him (O Prophet Muhammad SAW), (concerning His Qualities, His rising over His Throne, His creations, etc.), as He is Al-Khabîr (The All-Knower of everything i.e. Allâh). " [25:59]
Allah delibretly tells us that he is over the throne!
How can you deny that???
HallakBoy 4 months ago
SORRY NO SUCH THING AS WAHABI IN ISLAM THIS IS THE SHIA AND SUFI TRICK TO SEPERATE THE SUNNI MUSLIMS DONT FALL FOR RAFIDI TRICKS SO CALLED WAHABI NEVER SAY ALLAH HAS A BODY LIKE A HUMAN WE DONT PUT ATTRIBUTES TO HIM WE DONT KNOW HOW HE LOOKS WE KNOW HE GOT HANDS SHIN FACE NOSTRILS BUT THE HOW WE DONT KNOW SO SHIA STOP LYING TO PEOPLE AND ANY EDUCATED PERSON WOULD NOT CALL HIS BROTHER A WAHABI YOU ARE ABUSING ALLAH NAME ABDUL WAHAB WAS JUST A SCHOLOR WHO HATED INNOVATION AND SHIRKBY SHIA
12hamida 4 months ago
@12hamida "Physically, Allaah is up there"? But Allaah created the Physical and Allah even created the jinn and the angels. I'm not saying that Dr.Zakir Naik is Kaafir but we need to be careful when we use the term "physical".
BUBLOOGABLOO 4 months ago
أحد الصحابة ضرب واحدة من العبيد له , ثم ندم فذهب إلى الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم , فقال له يا رسول الله لقد ضربت أحدى العبيد وأنا اريد أن أكفر عن ذلك فذهب الرسول إلى الأمة فقال لها أين الله , فأشارت بيدها للسماء , فقال له الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم , اعتقها فإنها مؤمنة ,, أنها فطرة فينا أن نؤمن بأن الله عال فوق السماء وليس في كل مكان , ألست إذا أ{دت الدعاء رفعت يديك إلى السماء ؟ , لا تجعل هذا الانسان الذي لا يعرف اللغة العربية ويضللك , اقرا تفاسير ابن كثير والطبري والقرطبي , هؤلاء علماء تفسير ولغة
m3d2 5 months ago
هؤلاء الذين يقولون أن الله موجود في كل مكان وأقرب إلينا من حبل الوريد لا بد أن يفهم أن الله معنا بعلمه وقدرته وهو في نفس الوقت عال فوق عرشه هل ننكر أن لله يدين
من يفسر أن معنى اليد هي القوة والبطش فما معنى حديث آدم حين قال له الله أختر يا ادم فقال اختار يمين ربي وكلتا يدا ربي يمين ما معنى قول الله لإبليس ما منعك لأن تسجد لما خلقت بيدي هل معناه قوتان بطشان أم ماذا بالضبط
لماذا ننكر شيء وصف الله به نفسه هذا هو طريق السلف في الإيمان بصفات الله تعالى
اتمنى لو أحد يستطيع ترجمة كلامي بالانجليزي
m3d2 5 months ago
@mmawer I never said Allah in his creation, may be you are taking my comments wrong. I said Allah is Subhan and how he looks is out of our imagination. He is not physically but Noor ala Noor. In the video I mentioned the Quran Verses, kindly go and check. I think its fine if you just watch the video again and follow Quran verses.
saahad123 5 months ago
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@saahad123 Mishkot Shreef ma saf Hadees hein ka aik asman k oper dusara asman or 7th asman ka oper ALLAH ha,Arsh pa.Waquie Mahraj ma RASOOL ALLAH(S.A.W.W) ALLAH sa milnay kaha gaya tha?bahi 7th asamn sa oper gaya tha or kaha gya ha,surah MULK ki 17th aya ma bi ata ha ka kia tum bakhoof ho us sa jo asmano ma ha,Quran ma ALLAH na Farmaya ka ma tum ko apni taraf buland ker lo ga,matalb aasman taraf,Quran ma ata ha ka firon na kaha ka mahal tameer kero,ma MUSA(A.S) ka Rub ko dakhna chahta hon.
razi7172 4 months ago
@saahad123 Immam Trimzi na saf likha ha ka ALLAH Arsh pa ha or ilm ka lehaz sa hr jaga ha.
razi7172 4 months ago
Sorry not wahabi. Allah's of the name is Al Wahhab. And if people calling themselves wahabi why not they called razzaqi or rehmani, because Allah is Razzaq and Rehman. You need more knowledge about it, Wahhabi are calling themselves wahhabi because they follow abdul wahhab's school of thoughts. Thoughts that teaches Allah is physically existed. Allah move from one place to another. They consider Allah has a body like human beings Mazaallah. And who is Yusuf Estes, a Sahabi or a Prophet ?
saahad123 6 months ago
@saahad123 you are going to be asked about what you said here ,there is not such thing called Wahhabi ,Allah is not his in creation ,go read every Tafsir like al-Tabari or ibn Kathir about the ayaht in your video ,what you are saying is one a big Sin ,you are saying wrong things about Allah,dont listen to me or Dr Zakir Naik , go read the Tafsir of the Qur'an and find for yourself
Don't say Allah in his creation ,see what al-Tabari or ibn Kathir says
mmawer 5 months ago
Yusuf Estes says wahabi is one of allah's names.
MJacksonFakeDeath 6 months ago
"Do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens), will not cause the earth to sink…Or do you feel secure that He, Who is fis-sama (above the heavens) will not send against you a violent whirlwind?" [67:16-17]
zolaOT 6 months ago
Allah exists without a PLACE...keep this principle in mind...Allah created all places...So Allah cannot be ''''INSIDE""" any of HIS own """CREATED""" places ... so Allah is not Up or Down or everwhere... Zakir Naik and video maker are both totally wrong in this regard ... However, one thing is right ... Allah knows and is everywhere in this world through his knowledge and virtues but not physically for Allah has no physical form...Except Allah everything is created and has starting time...
greatrise 6 months ago
This is what happens when someone who is clearly NOT a scholar of Islam decides to share his views on matters of the most serious magnitude.
There is NOTHING like unto Him......Our Lord Glorified is He is Far removed and Clear of ALL that they falsely ascribe unto Him Most Exalted Most Gracious is He!
jayjay1179 8 months ago
Why is Wahabi movement being critizised for their right stance.Allah eradicated the inovations which filled islam with these people.read the history of the starter of this movement.People who want to stick to their innovations and dreams and their fantacies will reject the truth.Is the society and its innovative culture preventing people from following the actual truth...
TheJavido 9 months ago
Dear Dr.Naik, Please don't comment on the subjects you don't have knowledge. Please dont misguide the muslim ummah.
hidhamani 11 months ago 9
@hidhamani
I couldn't agree more.
oigeezer 4 months ago
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@hidhamani Imam Ibn Khuzaymah (RA) (Died 311AH) Said
"Whoever does not affirm that Allah is above His heavens, upon His Throne and that He is distinct from His creation; must be forced to repent. If he does not repent, then he must be beheaded and then thrown into a garbage dump, so that the Muslims and the Ahl-Dhimma (ie Christians and the Jews) will not suffer from his stinking smell." (Al-Hakim in Al-Marifah)
choudry1231 4 months ago
Allah is not above the ^arsh
Allah is not everywhere
Allah Existed and there was no place, and he is now as he was before.
Allah said in Surah Ashura Ayah 11 what means: " There is absolutely nothing like Him and he is attributed with Hearing and Sight "
This Clears Allah of being in a place, because a place is a creation, and Allah Existed before the creation, as the Prophet said:
كان الله ولم يَكُنْ شَىءٌ غَيْرُهُ
which means:
Allah Existed Eternally and there was nothing
ignoranceisbad 11 months ago
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flimflammonkeyballz 9 months ago
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@ignoranceisbad so your saying its your word against Allah's words. allah him self in the quran mentions that he established him self over the throne e.g surah taha 20:5. go study our religion mate
qx115 9 months ago
@ignoranceisbad
ok what about that Allah said not once not twice but 7 time in Quran that he is above the 3arsh (throne)
you want us believe in your understand and throw the understand of Linguists and Tafsir , is Allah can't said I'm not above the 3arsh , is the Arabic long didn't have word to describe such thing ? why he said 3la it's mean above .. OMG ppl why you are dare to denial something that Allah confirm him 7 time in Quran >
m3d2 5 months ago 3
@m3d2
that ayah has nothing to do with allocating a place to Allah
This ayah attributes to Allah Istawaa' over the ^arsh which means that the ^arsh which is the biggest creation, being huge huge huge x 100000000000000 is subjugated by Allah's Power.
So how about everything which is smaller than it ?
Thats why in Surah Maryam, it says what means that everything in the heavens and the earth must come to Allah as slaves
" above " as a physical reference is a totally irrelevant claim
ignoranceisbad 5 months ago
@ignoranceisbad
so the 3rsh before it subjugated to Gad was out control or what ?
the verse say Allah astawa 3la al3rsh i want you tell me what the meaning of this verse ?
the verse didn't say al3rh subjugated to Gad it said allah astawa 3la al3rsh
what the meaning of astawa 3la here ?
m3d2 5 months ago
@m3d2
every created thing from the moment it was created is need to Allah, the ^arsh is no exception
who said " ^ala " must always refer to height or physical distance, that is an assumption
for example, in the Qur'an: man fatara ^ala Allahi kithaba
second the word istawa' has multiple meanings
for example in the Qur'an": walama balagha ashuduhu was stawa
the imam tells the people in the prayer lines : istawuu
which means straighten your lines
ignoranceisbad 4 months ago
@m3d2 you are right ,,i dont now why???while its in qurran,,,,but i think shiaa having a hand on it as usully
AUSSIEKSA2011 4 months ago
this video sucks
Wtown06tt 11 months ago
ZAMAN (time),MEKAN(place) are crations of Allah..they are HADIS (They have a beginning and ending). allah however is kadim (no beginning no ending). Allah is greater than time and place...he is not everywhere, its just that time and place doesn't apply for him.. because his creations have a limitation...place has a limitation..saying Allah is in that place is saying that Allah has limitations... (Sherhul-Akaid---Allama Taftazani)
NaziriHakikat 11 months ago
@NaziriHakikat
You are saying the Truth. Al-Hamdulilaah
I am wondering; who is Allama Taftazani ?
ignoranceisbad 11 months ago
@ignoranceisbad His real name is Sa'duddin Mesud ibn Omar ibn Abdullah al-herevi al-horazani. he was born in the village of Taftazan, so many people called him by Taftazani. He was known for writing great books about ilm-i kalam and ilmi tefsir..
NaziriHakikat 11 months ago
@NaziriHakikat subhanallah dear brother good reference
jamshaid909 7 months ago
Allah Existed and there was no place.
He is now as he was before
ignoranceisbad 1 year ago
@ignoranceisbad
Exactly!
To believe allah is everywhere in a literal sense is the same as to believe he is on or above the throne, but in fact worse in degree of evil. Both claims are making the claim of place for allah and neither claims are from the people of the ahl-us-sunnah wal-jamaa`ah! Also, the claim that allah is everywhere taken in a literal sense is far from the claim of the ash`ari school and such a stance is a major misrepresentation of this school!
AnabolicMutant 1 year ago
Allah is ABOVE His creation, ABOVE His throne, not ON His creation or ON His throne, and He (Ta'ala) descends to the lowest heaven just like he said in a Sahih hadîth without us imagining how or asking how, because it's bid'ah.
easyonetwothree 1 year ago
@easyonetwothree
Allah existed before he created place, and allah is unceasingly unchanging and exists now as he always existed. Allah existed before he created the throne, and there is a saheeh hadeeth which clearly states the prophet `alayhis-solaatu was-salaam said "There is nothing above allah and there is nothing below allah"...
Also, with regard to the hadeeth about "descending", imaam al-bukhaari himself (the collector of this narration) said it means "The angels are sent to witness..."
AnabolicMutant 1 year ago
@easyonetwothree
> The angels are sent to witness the slaves of allah praying at fajr... How do you accept a narration from imaam al-bukhaari and then neglect his explanation of the same hadeeth? If he is not trustworthy in his explanation, then he is surely not trustworthy in his narrations either, and we know this is not correct. We know imaam al-bukhaari has narrated the hadeeth correctly and has explained it accordingly too. You should not follow the wahhaabiyyah because they are deviated!
AnabolicMutant 1 year ago
@easyonetwothree
Djazaka allahu gayr! I think your answer is the most correct. If I will be asked after my death about this matter, then I will say that I believed that Allah "Istawaa alla arshihi" in a way that fits him, without imagining how.
ankarata 1 year ago
@easyonetwothree you are saying that allah is above his throne because the throne is there you are saying that allah is restricted by his throne to remain above it. that is incorrect because if that were the case were was allah almighty before he created anything. the hadith does not mean that allah descends astagfirullah it means his blessings his mercy descends.
ashrafis786 6 months ago
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easyonetwothree 6 months ago
The Hadîth clearly mentions that ALLAH descends, not His blessings, otherwise Allâh would say that His blessings descend, and not Him, if it were to be Kufr, don't you think Allâh would never reveal it? Would your Lord reveal words of Kufr??? A'udhubillah! Your group is very disturbing.
Understand this hadith as the Salaf understood it, not as your logic understands it.
easyonetwothree 6 months ago
@easyonetwothree if you say that allah is above his throne like ibn taymiyya said fi nafsi with his essence this is KUFR where was allah existing before he created the throne now there is a throne allah exists above it so allah is limited to his creation astagfirullah allah is independent of his creation he exists not within wat is created
ashrafis786 6 months ago
@ashrafis786 You're very ignorant and one cannot speak to you
easyonetwothree 6 months ago
@easyonetwothree why am i ignorant because im correct. allah almighty is LIMITLESS his creation is limited that which is limitless is not bound by the limitless. allah created time and space and hence he exists without it. instead of calling me ignorant why dont u go out and seek the knowledge from a learned scholar of ahle sunnah wal jamaa
ashrafis786 6 months ago
@ashrafis786 Surah (20) Ayah (5). Do not argue with the Qur'an.
MrNoorize 5 months ago
´1. Nobody said that Allâh is restricked by His throne to remain there, these are your and your sect's words. Allâh is above His throne in a manner that suits His majesty, just as HE Himself said in the Qur'ân, the prophet ('alayhi salam) in his Sunnah, and the Sahaabah!
2. So what you are saying is that the blessings of Allâh only descend in the last part of the night? Wallâhî ajeeb, O poor us if Allah's blessings were only to descended in that part of the night.
easyonetwothree 6 months ago
These sick Wahhabis need to be exposed..
ukcool2 1 year ago
@ukcool2
Of course they do...
AnabolicMutant 1 year ago
Why is He only up? that is wrong, he is everywhere, dr Zaik Naik is very wrong
donshery 1 year ago
@donshery
Allah exists without a place. Places only exist because Allah created them. Allah is in no need of any place because he is the creator of places and does not need any of his creations. Allah can not be attributed with directions or contained in a place or space.
Nothing is like Allah, he is the only one worthy of worship, he exists and is attributed with life, knowledge of everything, sight hearing and speech.
Allah needs nothing, but everything needs Allah.
Wahhabihunter 1 year ago
@donshery
You are also wrong!
Not only do we have verses which say (tranlation) "... allah established himself above the throne...", but we also have verses which say "And allah is closer to you than your jugular vein" and allah is with you wherever you are.
There is also chapter number 3, verse number 7 which refutes those who seek the meanings of these verses. And anyhow, none of these verses can be used to imply place because allah is free from being in need of place and moving around, etc.
AnabolicMutant 1 year ago
@donshery Do you think it befits Allah his higness to physically be everywhere?
ankarata 1 year ago
@ankarata
astakfirullahgood point made my muslim brutha
allah has no physical apearance he is one and comparing him with us humankind is haraam and shirk.
may alaah subhanataala forgive our mistakes and save us from commiting shirk.
TheShadyboy123 1 year ago
@donshery Even in disgracing places? That is very wrong. Allah is the highest.
ankarata 1 year ago