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  • Debunking Warren Buffett and other tax myths

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  • On next years tax forms Congress should let taxpayers check off which party in Congress they want to authorize to manage their money. Then Democrats can raise taxes from all those rich Democrats for projects beneficial to Democrats and pay off their own debts anyway they want and Republicans will be able to cut programs not beneficial to Republicans and only have Republican debts to pay off.

  • It's crazy that Americans will only listen to a rich person and what he thinks the top tax rate should be.

    The middle class shouldn't be allowed to have say? Nonsense.

  • You are full of shit, mate.

    Have a look at the NBER data on income differentials from the 1980s until 2010.

  • @ericclaptonismygod31 dude, give me a link to these studies you are reading, or the authors. I can't believe I am even arguing this point. rising income inequality is FACT and has been fact for decades. Also, great job on defending your opinions by telling me I am full shit. never a more convincing argument has been made.

  • @foreyswizard You're right, I've studied income inequality in the US, and it has been growing. There is also ample evidence that this is harmful to society. If anyone is full of it on this, it's not you. He's probably repeating what he heard on talk radio.

    Check out social mobility, if you haven't yet. The conservative agenda with help from big money in politics is also creating almost permanent upper and lower classes. They are killing the American Dream.

  • There is MORE income eqality NOW AFTER TAXES than there was 20 years ago. Have a look at some NBER studies.

    Do not compare the 1950s to life now. Why not go back to the late 19th century when the standard of living was improving with falling prices?

    The 1990s was a technology boom fueled by cheap fiat money. Alan Greenspan`s tech bubble (with housing to follow).

    Basically, increase taxes and people will respond by either working less, or taking their work out of the legitimate economy.

  • @ericclaptonismygod31 Back up your assertion. What evidence do you have for the claim that higher taxes=less productivity, ambition etc. and an increase in black market employment. I brought up my comparison of taxes in the fifties and nineties and now not as an attempt to prove that higher taxes mean a "better" economy but as an argument that higher taxes don't have the effect you say they will( at least based on this recent historical data). 

  • Also, to diverge

    1. What? Income inequality has definitely risen in the last 20 years. definitely, not even arguable(preponderance of data(NBER included) backs that up)

    2.Obviously economic conditions are different between now and 1950, but that doesn't mean it isn't relevant (especially in the case of taxes=less work" a psychological and sociological issue not economic) or that its the same as comparing it to late 19th century(World war industrialization, urbanization, electricity etc etc etc)

  • Fine. Let Warren give it away then.

    Put up taxes and people will work less.

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  • @ericclaptonismygod31 yeah! you remember in the nineties when income taxes were higher and capital gains was almost double what it is now. man, the economy really sucked in the nineties, people just didn't work. Or you remember in the fifties when capital gains was ten percent higher than the current level and income tax for the top bracket was 3x what it is now. the economy really sucked in the fifties. people just didn't work. (sarcasm)

  • This is america you leftist socialist thieves...Everyone, no matter what income bracket you are, should pay the same percentage. If you make 10,000 a year then you should pay the same percentage as someone who makes a billion a year. If you want mass theft and redistribultion then move to socialist europe and get the fuck out of america where you have a right to be as rich or as poor as you want. Fucking leftist thieving criminals.

  • Your are a typical Conservative: selfish, and completely ignorant.

  • selfish? how is wanting to protect my property from being stolen selfish? where do you as a thief believe that you have a right to my property? you are just like a home invasion robber...except you have the government steal it from me for you instead.

  • How can I steal what you don't have? I would rather just curb stomp you instead.

  • well...being that you leftists are thieves and love having and taking other peoples money for yourself, im not suprised you'd want to curb stomp someone who wants to stop your mass system of theft. But your more than welcome to come to my house and try to curb stomp me.

  • Again, how can I steal from you when you don't have anything. I know Walmart keeps their employees paid so poorly that they can't even afford to shop there. And by your tired fascist rants, I can tell that you are poorly educated. You must be one of the poor Republicants who votes for them even though the Republicants only care about helping the super rich. How do people like you continue to breath?

  • lol...wow, that was the worst koolaid leftist propoganda ive ever heard.ummm...i own my own small business and would consider myself middle class. Fascist? it is you leftists who want to force your ideologies of mass theft and redistribution, heavy limits on first and second amendment rights, forcing us to accept the gay faggot agenda. Conservative ideology of small government, low taxes which means more freedoms and rights is hardly fascist

  • Wow, you're a homophobe as well and you probably live in a trailer with your sister/wife. Democrats are all for small and medium sized business, it's big business/corporations that many of us dislike and distrust. If you were smart you would realize the Republicants don't give a damn about you, only their corporate overlords who would love to squash your small business.

  • What the Republicants believe and do are two different things. They say they believe in small government but look at how much money they spend on the government (i.e. Reagan and Dubya.) They cut taxes for the super-rich spend billions on defense and get us screwed by being in debt over our head and we have to use China as our bank to pay our bills - it is absolutely insane. The neo-cons are just left of Hitler.

  • Neo-cons make the founder of the conservative movement (Barry Goldwater) look as though he were a liberal. But things have gotten so bad for so many (including the middle class) that America has finally woken up. You and your movement are a thing of the past. George Bush and his administration, the former Republicant congresses, and the conservative Supreme Court have screwed this country and the world so hard that they are going the way of the dodo bird and they only have themselves to blame.

  • no...there is a new movement coming...the movement that is tired of the country club republican leftists like Bush. Kinda funny though how Bush has a higher approval rating than the congress who is run By far leftist stalinists like nancy Pelosi.

  • Wow, if you call Bush a leftist you are absolutely insane. You make Hitler look like a hippie. Congress has only been majority Democrat for two years and doesn't have the necessary majority to actually get anything passed (60 seats) with a Republicant president in power.

  • Hitler was a leftist... liberals like to call him a right winger, But every german who lived at that time knew he was a leftist. If you read all of the National socialist pamphlets at the time, it calls for Universal government healthcare, Government welfare state, Clamping down on capitalism in germany. Hitler was a total leftist. Congress was controlled by republicans from 1994 to 2006 that is why clinton and bush had an awsome economy. Our gas price doubled since democrats took over in 2006

  • Wow......have you ever even taken an American political science course? If you had, you would see he that on the political spectrum, Hitler is the polar opposite of a liberal. Any shred of credibility you might have had is totally lost. You just confirmed to me that you are indeed a right wing nut job who has no basis in reality. Hopefully you're not planning on blowing up any clinics.

  • lol...I was married to a german for 5 years. Her dad was a nazi history freak and collected every Nazi and national socialist party pamphlet he could. Every single ideology in those pamphlets are the same propoganda being shoved on us by the democrats and far leftist socialists. And yes i have a masters in ancient history and archeology. And I was fed marxist propoganda in my political science and liberal arts classes by my marxist nut job professors.

  • Where did you get your degree from? Probably an unaccredited piece of crap school if you even do have a degree.

  • i got my bachelors from the university of British Columbia in Canada and my masters from University of Utah with 2 years of my masters at Universty of Colorado in Boulder. Did you even go to school? Im thinking you must have, otherwise you wouldn't be having such a love affair with Marxist theology

  • Wow, a conservative Canuck, unless you're originally from the States. You must have loved living in Boulder, with all the liberals there.

  • born and raised in the states. University of British Columbia has a good history dept.

  • Wow, I'm surprised someone like you would even step foot in Canada or that they would even let you across the border. You must have loved the liberals there. For a right wing nut job you sure love to live with the liberal folk.

  • seriously, there arent as many leftists as you think in Canada. There are many many conservative canadian patriots who detest their leftist government...hmmmmmm maybe that is why the conservatives in canada have elected a conservative prime minister? Just like in France when they elected Sarkozy because he promised to get rid of the many socialist programs in france....we will see if he keeps his promise.

  • @shadowsofnineveh " seriously, there arent as many leftists as you think in Canada" 37.65% voted for right wing conservative party. The remaining parties are all center left to far left. The problem is the left vote is split 4 ways. If it wasn't we would have a solid liberal majority. This was the problem for the right wing when their vote was split. For example in 2000 the liberals got 41% popular vote and 172 seats, PC and Alliance got 37% between them in the popular vote and only 78 seats.

  • well....i like to surround myself with leftists so I can find chances to debate and argue with leftists on the street....unlike leftists who only associate with leftists.

  • sorry, but i would much rather have Supreme court justices like Scalia who make decisions based solely off the constitution rather than leftists like Breyer who rule based on their ideology regardless of what the constitution states.

  • do you even know what a neocon is? A neocon is a leftist who turned conservative. Bush is a leftist that never turned conservative. Bush lied to us and promised small government and less spending and welfare programs...But the Fuck nut Bush lied and went leftist on us.

  • lol...really? under clinton, my capital gains taxes were through the roof and my traxes were much higher which made it harder for me to operate my business. Obama wants to tax me at a higher rate than clinton did.

  • Please move to another country. I'll even pay for your ticket.

  • lol...no, you would fit right in in the feminized socialist europe. I will stay and help fight to keep america safe from you leftist socialist loons. Our founders specifically warned about the kind of socialist tyranny you leftists want to create. Thomas jefferson stated that the fall of democracy as we know it will happen when a government forcefully takes another mans property to redistribute it to another. Ben franklin and alexander hamilton also warned of this kind of tyranny.

  • Fight.....hmmmm have you ever served this country's military? Well I did for 5 years, 5 months, and 5 days. I highly recommend you see a recruiter tomorrow so you can fight this bullshit war that I'm sure you supported from the beginning.

  • the only war im for supporting is the fight against you feminized marxist latte sipping pacifist cowards.

  • A Canuck calling me a coward...that's laughable.

  • again...i was in british columbia for 4 years.

  • and yes...I don't want the faggot lifestyle forced upon me or my kids the same as I don't want pedophilia or beastiality lifestyles forced on us either. I could care less if your a faggot or practice faggotry, but you have no right to indoctrinate or force me or anyone else to accept your faggot lifestyle.

  • Sure I believe you have a master's degree - you can't even spell. Do you live in a cave?

  • its called typing fast out of shear frustration to your insane stalinist socialist love affair.

  • and also secondly, if walmart employees don't like their job, they can get another job or go apply at target, walmart.......so im a fascist because i want to stop you from stealing another mans money for youself? so you are saying, if a man tries to rob me, give him my money so i won't be perceived as a fascist?

  • What is your address?

  • why? you coming over?

  • Yes, I'm going to send a gang of gay guys over to your house. You've got a lot of pent up gay issues. They will help you deal with your homosexuality. I promise they won't treat you too rough.

  • lol. k you go right ahead and do that. the only difference is ill have a few magazines full of 7.62x39mm for my AK47 so the faggot practitioners will have quite a fight on their hands.

  • I'd like to see you at the range with your AK. I'm surprised you have a communist weapon. I guess you like a weapon that can be buried in the sand and still fire.

  • lol....the Ak when the front sites are lowered and adjusted to compensate for semi auto (sights are high on AK-47's originally to compensate for rise during automatic fire). Semi auto only needs the front sights adusted to the center and slightly to the left. My Yugo is very accurate at 150 to 200 yards after adjustments. But I also have an Armalite Ar-15 that is a nice weapon, I just prefer my Yugo M70 ak47 due to more power and reliability. Although the ar-15 is more accurate beyond 200 yards.

  • Thanks for posting this blatent display of the cancerous ideas of Socialism. If Mr. Buffet were not a hypocrite, he would send annual donations to the federal government. His rights end where others begin. There is a 'working rich' that has to compensate for things like spending $200K in medical school loans and other investments. No one has the right to pass judgement on 'super rich' either, assuming they are law abiding.

  • @stevenrszabo Oh, sweet irony. One of America's most successful capitalists is a socialist? What an idiotic idea.

    Warren isn't a hypocrite, but is well aware that an extra 5-10% from him would make no practical difference. If he AND all his fellow richies did this, (over 3 million millionaires in the US) we're talking serious deficit reduction. No one is "passing judgement", either. We just want a return to the normal, historical rates. The ones Reagan passed would work for me.

  • @SPGhettus Reasonable taxes are not socialism, no matter how much the GOP would like you to believe. I'd like tax rates from Kennedy on back. I agree though, Reagan's tax rates would be far better than these bush tax cuts.

  • @richis2fast4u

    thank you, someone knows math. :)

  • This is because majority of his income is from investments which are taxed @ the capital gains rate, not the income tax rate. That is the luxury of investing your $, you get to keep it and do with it as you may, not give it to the government to spend. A smart rich person will donate their a portion of their $ to better things than what the goverment will do with it anyways. Do your homework, pay off your debt so that you can be wealthy too and not pay high income tax rates just like Buffet!

  • Thank you for posting this and thank you Warren Buffett your honesty should be part of the curriculum for the MBA's.

  • We need more rich people like Warren Buffett to standup to the American tax system and tell the truth! I appreciate his honesty!

  • Right he is!

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