THANK YOU to this vendor for not being ignorant and selling to CA where semi-auto centerfire rifles ARE legal despite what some stupider vendors believe!
California gun laws are shit. Dangerous people who dont care about the law are still gonna grt illegal guns. We lawabiders should be able to protect ourselves from them
@nreedbuffalo Leaving is the last thing anyone who dislikes the gun laws in California should do. What we should do instead is stay join together and fight the laws, so future generations of CA gun lovers can have the freedom to enjoy their guns
A lot of people talk smack about Arsenal. As I sit and await my SGL 21 I'm watching all the vid's over, and I see and hear people that are EXCITED ABOUT THEIR QUALITY PRODUCT, wouldn't you?! I mean they have brought Mikhail Kalashnikov's product to the U.S., LOT'S OF RESPECT FOR THAT ONE! And I think the California (EVERY GUN OWNER WHO ISN'T A MEMBER, JOIN ME IN RENEWING OR JOINING THE NRA TODAY, lets help Cali cash in on the coupon!) model and COUPON shows how hard they work, KEEP IT UP GUYS!
@reeseman67 AND they seem to have stepped up to the plate on keepin distributor's supplied, I got my future 'lil lady' on LAYAWAY because Buds has the WHOLE 21-31 line! I love it, I still KNOW that my WASR-10 was a quality product. I also know I was lucky, 50%/50%. If you want one GET ONE, BUT HANDLE IT FIRST. Arsenal just OOZES PRIDE(No buyer's remorse w/Arsenal, when I owned the WASR, all I could think was " WHY WASN'T I PATIENT FOR AN ARSENAL?") I like their products, PERIOD, 1st & 2nd cool!
A true Armerican is one that respects the life and honour of all other people (free from the US declaration of independence).
What do we see happening now in the US? At several high schools heavily armed deranged students shot dozens of young people and teachers. Gangs like the Crisps possess arms like they are the army. And like we see in this video, not only small handarms or hunting rifles are legal. No, heavy machine guns are in the hands of civilians!
Today, ATF director Kenneth Mason was replaced because he let thousands of heavy arms fall in the hands of arms dealers. Mexican authorities complain that many of these arms have been sold to Mexican drug cartels. With one of these arms an american borderpoliceman was shot dead earlier this year. Mexicans say that US arms are feeding the drug cartels in Mexico.
In fact; the liberal private arms laws in the US are a main cause for all violence with arms, in and outside the US!
Oh, actually I'm sure I saw this when it came out haha just wasn't looking into an AK at the time. I'm glad companies like Ruger, S&W and Arsenal are helping out us Californians. It's tough to see these guns on your vids but I can't shoot even a neutered version of it because of some silly rule.
I don't think I could live in CA with all the restrictions on the guns. I carry every day to and from work (LEO) but as a private. citizen that would suck out there. Yes, I'm armed mist of the time, with fire arm and a knife. I am glad to know there is a company waiting to help the people in CA when the gun laws are changed for the better. Give Walker a break. It's great you have that special friendship. Thanks for the video, I liked it.
I really wish there was a company that made made AK's that are CA legal without the use of a "key" or tool. I would much rather have a hunting style stock stock with no key required than a pistol grip with a key required. Part of the Philosophy Of Use on a firearm like this is to have quick reload ability, plus i dont wanna have to worry about losing that dang key. I've looked around but haven't seen any except for Saiga, but I've read that those are CA illegal. suggestions anyone?
@SuperYoed Interordnance casars are ca legal. they dont come with pistol grip or bullet button. you can usually get them from big 5, if there not on display they will special order. check out the interordnance website.
No offense but welding your BB in is stupid. You have permanently chastised ypur weapon. You should have read up on calguns dot net and you would have realized we have more options. Excuse my spelling as I am posting this from my phone.
I never said they would. I have featureless and bb weapons here in CA so I know what I am talking about. You may not get in trouble for one bit poli,e who are uneducated on the matter can still bring you in. I actually never saod the CA DOJ will approve of any BB because the are inherently anti-gun. So no, they will never approve of one even though they can. My point was that this Arsenal AK is not approved. They and nutnfancy mententioned it is when it is notapproved.
@timswilsonjr The Arsenal AK's do not need "approval" in the sense that handguns do with the roster of approved handguns. The definition of an assault weapon in California PC 12276.1 at its core is a "semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has the CAPACITY to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following".....As long as the magazine requires the use of a "tool" to remove, then it is perfectly legal for importation into CA.
The "capacity to accept" feature has been removed with the instillation of the magazine locking device. I had my own reasons for welding mine in place. The weld can be undone should I decide to move to free state! And Calguns are not a source I use for legal advice.
As long as the rifle that is being imported meets the requirements under CA law with regards to 12276.1, then the manufacturer r importer does not need "approval" fro the DOJ.
Then your making a mistake. Calguns is the only front on our rights fighting the gun grabbers. The NRA does little to nothing here in CA. The CRPA and the Calguns foundation work together to help preserve and restore our gun rights here in California. They pushed the BB by carefully dissecting the law. No one since has been convicted for having a AW when a BB is properly installed and Calguns helps those victims get cleared of bogus chargers pinned by anti-gun police.
Anyways, if you read my first post and realize what I meant, then you have no argument. The fact that I even replied to your post upsets me. I generally don't get into pissing matches with people online. All I said/meant was that these rifles are being advertised as being California Approved, and they are NOT period. Be it these vids, emails with Arsenal or forums they are always advertised as that when they are not.
@timswilsonjr On the contrary sir; there is no argument here. No where in the video does it say that these weapons are "California approved". The only reference to any legalities with regards to these rifles are that they meet the configuration requirements for the laws of the State of California referencing California PC 12276.1 which defines an assault rifle as "A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following"....
@timswilsonjr you can read that code section yourself. Because the Arsenal rifles are equipped with the magazine locking device, the "capacity to accept" feature has been eliminated and the weapon is no longer considered an Assault Weapon as it is defined in 12276.1
The requirement for importation has been met with the installation of the magazine lock and therefore the rifle is legal to import into California. A loophole, maybe? Legal, yes! Annoys the politicians, sure.
I am well aware of the law. I have an Arsenal shipped to me with no pistol grip.
I own a few AR15/10's and a few AK's so I as well know the law. You are correct about to video. I was thinking that off the top of my head. However if you look at the vieo description it does say "California Approved".
Yes it is all legal, by our view of the law. I would hope that you do realize that in the past gun manufactures have "interpreted" the law only to have it called illegal.
I never said they would. I have featureless and bb weapons here in CA so I know what I am talking about. You may not get in trouble for one bit poli,e who are uneducated on the matter can still bring you in. I actually never saod the CA DOJ will approve of any BB because the are inherently anti-gun. So no, they will never approve of one even though they can. My point was that this Arsenal AK is not approved. They and nutnfancy mententioned it is when it is notapprived
It's good to see they have finally come around and decided to help us Californians out BUT I'm bummed about that proprietary lock. I know they are just doing what their lawyers advised them to do but any Californian who already owns high cap mags won't be able to legally use them in this rifle.
Also, there is potential for high cap mags being legally sold in CA somewhat soon. Unfortuantely, this possible proliferation of high caps won't matter to anyone with this rifle.
What is with the 5 round mags that Arsenal sends out with their guns, it looks as though it has room enough for 10 in there yet it only goes down so far. Kind of a bummer.
@videosbythe5 There's a couple of reasons for that. 1st even though the Dragunov is fully legal to import in a complete mil-spec configuration, the Russians for some reason just don't want to do it and no US importer has tried to make a deal with them (I have no idea why). 2nd, it would take Arsenal or any other company several years to set up the facilities to manufacture them here and even then the price would be incredibly high for a while. I would love an SVD too. maybe, one day though. :)
I love that Nutn gets his valid points in there from an operating standpoint. Nice job, buddy. Good on Walker for taking the time to go over the inventory, not to mention his time on Calguns. Good points on the milled receiver too.... I know the co. you are addressing, ahem.
All Californians appreciate what Arsenal has done & their effort to keep the AK a legal & viable firearm. Got one last year without the proprietary BB. Lets see more AKs from the 100 series with a hooded front sight.
One of the best SYSTEMS for California is the SKS. Because of the fixed 10 rd mag you can put on a Tapco stock with pistol grip and adjustable butt stock. Combined with a SKS Bandolier and some stripper clips you can carry 200 rounds of fast load ammo for very low money. If you buy this gun or even the nice low cost SAIGA you will spend many hundreds more on 10 rd mags and a harness to carry them all. Also because the SKS is 50 yrs. old you can have the Bayonet in California too.
Man... so much stuff I want after watching this vid. RPK's looking great. Kinda intrigued by that Krinkov with silencer at 21:04 wish Nutn had talked about that. But what I'm most excited about: SGL-21 and 31 WITH RUSSIAN SIDE FOLDER!!!!!! Lookin good at Arsenal, wish I was PFI rich.
@Solanum20 Just a muzzle brake/flash hider. Now that I think of it, there arn't all that many silencers for AK style rifles. And I know they're out there, cuz I remember reading an article in a magazine about how Russian Spetznaz troops liked the AK 47 because of better penetration/power and because of the subsonic ammo they have for the 7.62x39 (which I also have never seen).
Video is great as usually, but we definitely need to stop this CA nonsense! It is irritating illogical stupidity of liberals doesn’t do ANY good for decent Californians. Hopefully after this “invasion” AK regain its popularity in CA up to the point when finally something good will birth in this state! Let’s OVERLOAD CA with firearms for now and then overturn idiotic bans, enough liberal experiments, abhor it! Give your vote MAN if you agree!
@yandexiridium Oh, but you don't want to enrage the Liberal Overlords, they'll just pass more stupid impractical laws that only makes them feel good. When you have the mayor of New York sending a small sting operation to Arizona wasting tax payers money investigating Gunshows?!?! Many of the 10 round bans are a holdover from the Clinton era Assault weapons ban, the day that Clinton signed that bill into law, American's 2nd amendment rights were trampled upon, lets not let that happen again!!
@sirjohn113 Liberal overlords? Stop being a partisan puppet & stop spreading misinformation. Reagan & the Mulford Act of '67? How about Bush Sr. who banned the import of "assault weapons" in 1989? If you honestly believe it's only the left or the right that take away your 2nd Amend. rights, you are sorely mistaken. Government as a whole has slowly but surely taken measures to control the population, especially by aligning citizens to one of the two parties, neither of which benefit the ppl.
I live in NYS and i have to say as much as I'm pissed off about the 10 rd restriction, the thing that pisses me off more is the restrictions on flash hiders/muzzle brakes, pistol grips, folding stocks, and bayonet lugs. Not only does the gun lack functionality, but it can't look cool either.
@G1721jeff I live in California and having these kind of options is great. People living in other states often take their gun rights for granted. In California it is a daily fight to keep what rights we have left.
Awesome AK's. It will be nice to add one of these to my AR15!
Don't see the use of a scope on an Kalibine at these close ranges. We used to paint the rear sight with nail polish and the front with pearl polish. You can also pick up antique clocks at some stores and scrape off the paint and mix it with clear polish, glows at night without need for photon charging as it's irradiated paint.
I love the AK's I was raised shooting a couple of liberated AK's, in recent years the standard for AK's in the US seems to have dropped and i'm really glad to see Arsenal bring that standard for quality back into this great weapons platform.
thanks for the Update, I've been trying to save up enough for one of these. -Big Bad Woof, Sheepdog for Life.
Nutn, you gotta stop it with that flash light. I noticed when it goes away from their faces, the lighting is better. I know you need it when you zoom in on the details and whatnot, but until then, let go of the flashlight. :)
I wish manufacturers would stop accommodating the communistic californian legislatures and light a fire under the asses of the people of california who the lawmakers work for and change the nonsense laws of that state.
@glockblocker10 I agree. I think that the accommodation actually does more harm in the long run, but that's business.... what do you do. People in CA have too much sunshine and good times to do jack about it anyway.
California is such a homo state.... look at what they are dong to a great classic rifle. Yeah it's Arsenal making a different mag release but if Cali didn't have such stupid laws.... none of this would happen. Dude $20 or whatever for a 10 rnd mag? pffffffffffffft hahahahahah that was something. Overall it was a nice vid.... Mr. English was pissed I would tell hahahah.
California legal and compliant:?? Ya right. Every informed person on california gun laws knows bullet buttons and all the likes are just grey area and are only "not illegal" yet because there hasn't been a very decisive case and ruling so far.
But about the CA legal gun, it doesn't seem like it, but arsenal really blew it by not going with a design like solartactical allowing you to remove the lock without damage to the original release for klydex grips or out of state use...
@juggalo7834 As long as the shotgun cant hold more than 6 shells its legal in MA. So if they do offer a 5+1 magazine for that particular shotgun its legal.
California is a good state, but the gun laws can go fucking die. This semi-auto, 10 round, AK-74 with a key tool is the closest thing I can buy to the real AK-74 I want.
The sad thing is that as large a company as they are, they don't know what they are talking about. We have been getting Arsenal AK's sent into CA for a long time now. Removing the pistol grip is the SAFEST way to avoid confusion. Arsenal is doing what we have been doing in CA for years now, using bullet buttons in many types and styles. We can also retain the pistol grip and use a filler that fills the gap between the back side of the pistol grip to the bottom of that stock.
@timswilsonjr Continued. I prefer that method because I can still remove magazines in a tactical or competition use. CALIFORNIANS do not be fooled. Talked to your local gun stores. Arsenal in NO way got "approval" for this. The CA DOJ has not and has no intention to "approve" any type of bullet button, mag release devices, grip fillers etc. The most common way these weapons are sold in California is without a pistol grip.
@timswilsonjr The California DOJ will not give approval, because they cannot give approval or dissapproval. For ant bullet-button configured rifle. The bullet-buttons are perfectly legal within the definition of an assault weapon as defined in 12276.1 of the CA Penal Code. Now do these bullet-button rifles have the "capacity to accept" feature referring to a detachable magazine; sure they do, but only if one is stupid enough to build one and NOT use the bullet button.
@timswilsonjr continued.... I have my AR5 that I built in 2008 and I have no problems taking it out to the range and I really don't give a **** abut what cops say; their opinions and the DOJ's opinion doesn't matter. The law is the law.
My bullet button is welded in place and it is PERFECTLY LEGAL. Arsenal does NOT need "approval" from the DOj unless they are shipping the rifles into California in their original unaltered configuration; of which they are NOT doing.
Shot placement is the most important thing. I know Nutn would agree and has said that MANY times. It is called being "Combat Accurate" you aren't punching paper at 100yds and shooting quarters. You are moving and shooting, go do it and you will understand. I don't even need to argue my point. Most that are stupid don't know they are stupid. Remeber that. I love the Vids Nutn!!
@catholicforever Living in Ca I can tell you it sucks. But my no means is the worst gun law we have. Why don't you try to pick one you complain about that would benefit more people? Because the the use a locked mag release is only needed for guns with pistol grips. Why don't you read more into a law before you just talk shit about all of California. And while the weather sucks for you guys, its been in the high 70*s ALL WEEK! lol
@catholicforever I know what you were complaining about. My point is that out of all the stupid gun laws we have you could've picked a better one. Examples, A. no mags over 10rnds, B. Tarus Judge is considered a short barreled assault weapon, C. our new retarded ammo law, D. California Drop Test for pistols, which has banned tons of guns from Ca., E. our stupid waiting periods for long guns and handguns, F. our carry laws. And lets not forget carrying a baton in Ca. is a felony weapons charge
@catholicforever Living in Ca I can tell you it sucks. But by no means is the worst gun law we have. Why don't you try to pick one you complain about that would benefit more people? Because the the use a locked mag release is only needed for guns with pistol grips. Why don't you read more into a law before you just talk shit about all of California. And while the weather sucks for you guys, its been in the high 70*s ALL WEEK! lol
@catholicforever Living in Ca I can tell you it sucks. But by no means is the worst gun law we have. Why don't you try to pick one to complain about that would benefit more people? Because the the use a locked mag release is only needed for guns with pistol grips. Why don't you read more into a law before you just talk shit about all of California. And while the weather sucks for you guys, its been in the high 70*s ALL WEEK! lol
Yeah they give the death sentence to those who tamper with restrictions for "assault" weapons here, but they sure as $H!T don't for offenders like pedos and murderers, wait I forgot the pedos run Cr@p-E-Fornia. More or less though it is because the state is home to the worst minority individuals crammed up in what they call cities and those "politicians" in charge were a bunch of dope smoking hippies from back then. I can bore with the details, wish I can GTFO.
@migkillertwo I guess you know so much. How about you research Officer Down: The Peter Soulis Incident. Suspect got shot 22 times with 40 caliber Ranger SXT's before he quit firing back at the officer. Same thing as PDX1 which the FBI uses. 22 TIMES! How about you tell the officer he only needs 10 rounds. Give me a fucking break. Grow up and quite being so nieve.
@TheSquirrel1986 was he wearing obviously impressive armor???if not the cop needs to learn how to shoot OR the story is complete bullshit over dramatic nonsense to make a good story out of it and didnt happen at all the way it was said i read the whole thing
@gumbys1up Are you guys serious? Let me hear you talk all your one shot kill bs after you have someone shooting back at you. You train for center of mass shots of course. The suspect took 22 center of mass shots and kept fighting.
You sit here and say accuracy is everything....well it is but that goes right out the window when you have someone high on drugs with a gun shooting back at you. I also have cases where suspect took 12 gauge slug to center of mass and kept shooting back....hold on
@TheSquirrel1986 Round count and caliber come into play AFTER AND ONLY AFTER you are able to put rounds on target. A well placed head shot or the heart/lung shot is basically a fatal wound. Also I didn't mention anything about 1 shot, 1 kill. You Did. I agree with completely about carrying as much ammo as possible. I carry a SA XD45GAP and carry 3 mags of 9 rounds a piece. If you honestly think your round count in the mag is going to make the difference. Well It does but only in WAR. Not WROL.
@gumbys1up I'm not turning this into a forum bs argument. Placement does matter of course.... Senator Giffords took a shot to the head and it was not fatal. Almost all real professionals will tell you to shoot until the threat has stopped. Go talk to ER doctors who have worked on gun shot victims, the survival rate is above 50 percent. A suspect can take a shot to the heart and still have time to shot back. Accuracy matters. I'm done arguing.
How do you know 10 rounds is adequate for self defense. Educate everyone with your illogical bs. Do a little research in Police officer involved shootings and see the 20 plus rounds it took just to get a suspect to stop what he was doin...NOT KILL just to freaking stop him. There are thousands of cases like this. So to tell me that 10 rounds is enough is just stupidicy.
I hate how nutinfancy thinks his ideas are best- how often does anyone roll under a car? Nutin doesn't understand that the makers also have to obey the law and make a gun cheap enough
that's a tough case to make, that people have a fundamental right to own a semi-auto rifle with a detachable magazine. California allows people to own handguns and shotguns, and semi-auto rifles that can hold 10+1 rounds, which in a functioning society are perfectly adequate for self-defense.
@migkillertwo Two things in your statement don't sit well with me. First,"California allows", nobody tells me what or how much of anything I am "allowed" to use when protecting my family.
Second, "functioning society", sometimes society functions in evil ways, be prepared. In a perfect world your statement would be valid, but unfortunately its not.
"nobody tells me what or how much of anything I am "allowed" to use when protecting my family."
Alright. What if a convicted felon felt that he needed a fully automatic AR-15 and a beta C-mag to protect his family. Does the government have no power to prevent him from getting that weapon?
"sometimes society functions in evil ways"
well the constitution assumes that society doesn't function in such a way where people can use 30 round detachable magazines for more than...
@migkillertwo I see your point, I look at things from my law abiding citizen side of things.Sorry for the youtube judo session, I get worked up sometimes.
@migkillertwo a convicted felon is not allowed to have weapons... rightfully so. Convicted felons have a very limited amount of rights. They gave them up when they committed a felony.
@usmcboyer In the constitutional sense of "rights", rights are absolute and can't be given up. For instance, convicted felons still have the freedom of religion, press, speech, and they also retain freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, and still have the basic rights of the accused if charged again.
Since Heller upheld the right to bear arms as a "fundamental right", I'm very interested to see if the court will be willing to apply that consistently and decide that felons...
@migkillertwo good points. I think that there are certain crimes though, that need to be more heavily punished. Basically violent or really messed up things need to be controlled. I dont think anyone can argue that point. Believe me I am a insanely huge supporter of the constitution, but there comes a point when through your own actions, what you can and can not do needs to be restricted.
@migkillertwo well you kind of need a background check where im from to get a firearm (but it is different all over the place)
and most states (if not all) have a ban on magazines that hold more than a certain number of rounds. in DC its 10 (recent handgun ban got lifted) , in NY its 7 etc...
but i do understand where you both come from. and in reality, you only need one in the chamber, and a steady hand to protect your family from a single assailant
"have a ban on magazines that hold more than a certain number of rounds"
as far as I'm aware, most states do not have any limit on magazine capacity, and some have limits just for show. Ohio, for instance, has a 30-round limit, but that does not apply to any NFA registered weapon, or weapon chambered in .22 rimfire
@migkillertwo quite a few northern states do as far as i know, but idk if the caliber matters. you could be right on that one, im no expert by any means
@migkillertwo How do you know 10 rounds is adequate for self defense. Educate everyone with your illogical bs. Do a little research in Police officer involved shootings and see the 20 plus rounds it took just to get a suspect to stop what he was doin...NOT KILL just to freaking stop him. There are thousands of cases like this. So to tell me that 10 rounds is enough is just stupidicy.
"do a little research in police officer involved shootings"
Trust me, I know a lot about guns. I personally own several pistols and so-called "assault weapons", I'm just taking issue with Nutn's rather "liberal" use of the word "unconstitutional". But I'd like to know how many cases there are where 11 rounds of 5.56 nato or 7.62x39, or even 11 rounds of speer gold dot 9mm couldn't stop an attacker.
@migkillertwo I'm not saying that its illogical to have 10 round magazines. I'm saying that its illogical to say that 10 rounds is enough to defend your life. Totally different. If i'm limited to 10 round mags....I'm carrying 2 spares maybe 3. Let the high court decide what it wants....silly sheeple when will you learn.
does Walker have cancer?
miketastic97 2 days ago
This took twice as long because the guy speaking kept getting interuped by the NUT..
WRockW10 2 weeks ago
YES!!!!! I agree. Much need. A review for the VEPR AK. (RPK)
COMPUTERVIDEOACTION 3 weeks ago
THANK YOU to this vendor for not being ignorant and selling to CA where semi-auto centerfire rifles ARE legal despite what some stupider vendors believe!
devastateurface 1 month ago
Good job, Walker, calling the mag for what it is: low-capacity. The gun-haters call regular cap mags "high capacity"... So backwards.
avanbay2 1 month ago
I love the 410 and would like to have one. The only problem for home defense is the length of the gun...
TheWhmaxwell 1 month ago
Can you have a thumbhole stock in CA? Not from there. (From NY, almost as bad as CA.)
likasombodeeee 1 month ago
@jartan117 I agree, being from CA myself.
dgallegos4201 1 month ago
Fix our gun laws D:
California gun laws are shit. Dangerous people who dont care about the law are still gonna grt illegal guns. We lawabiders should be able to protect ourselves from them
VskitzophraniaV 2 months ago
Another reason why I'll be moving out of the Republik of Kalifornia shortly
nreedbuffalo 3 months ago
@nreedbuffalo Leaving is the last thing anyone who dislikes the gun laws in California should do. What we should do instead is stay join together and fight the laws, so future generations of CA gun lovers can have the freedom to enjoy their guns
jartan117 3 months ago
@jartan117 Good point, but it's not my deciding factor. It's a big factor, but there are a few other things as well
nreedbuffalo 3 months ago
california wall. lol It's like the "special ed" class in school.
Viktoriuslee 4 months ago
A lot of people talk smack about Arsenal. As I sit and await my SGL 21 I'm watching all the vid's over, and I see and hear people that are EXCITED ABOUT THEIR QUALITY PRODUCT, wouldn't you?! I mean they have brought Mikhail Kalashnikov's product to the U.S., LOT'S OF RESPECT FOR THAT ONE! And I think the California (EVERY GUN OWNER WHO ISN'T A MEMBER, JOIN ME IN RENEWING OR JOINING THE NRA TODAY, lets help Cali cash in on the coupon!) model and COUPON shows how hard they work, KEEP IT UP GUYS!
reeseman67 5 months ago
@reeseman67 AND they seem to have stepped up to the plate on keepin distributor's supplied, I got my future 'lil lady' on LAYAWAY because Buds has the WHOLE 21-31 line! I love it, I still KNOW that my WASR-10 was a quality product. I also know I was lucky, 50%/50%. If you want one GET ONE, BUT HANDLE IT FIRST. Arsenal just OOZES PRIDE(No buyer's remorse w/Arsenal, when I owned the WASR, all I could think was " WHY WASN'T I PATIENT FOR AN ARSENAL?") I like their products, PERIOD, 1st & 2nd cool!
reeseman67 5 months ago
So couldn't you just glue the mag release key in there?
thetiniestbullfrog 5 months ago
nutn, what are your opinions on the ultimak gas tube/rail? ive heard good and bad online and am interested because they are lower than side mounts.
HippieHunta 5 months ago
Did he ever show up this Spring for a Run - N - Gun ??
frankgon4 5 months ago
I hate california gun laws......but i love my Arsenal CAQ legal AK haha;)
UnderCoverOps16 5 months ago
how easy is the swap if you want to move away from California?
IlliniEnginerd21 6 months ago
I wish Arsenal inc would make a pp-19 Bizon.
SARKEK 6 months ago
Any California legal firearm is a "ruined firearm".
SuperRip7 6 months ago
@SuperRip7 agreed, but for us stuck here in CA, we'll take what we can
sasquatchhunter86 3 months ago
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SuperRip7 6 months ago
A true Armerican is one that respects the life and honour of all other people (free from the US declaration of independence).
What do we see happening now in the US? At several high schools heavily armed deranged students shot dozens of young people and teachers. Gangs like the Crisps possess arms like they are the army. And like we see in this video, not only small handarms or hunting rifles are legal. No, heavy machine guns are in the hands of civilians!
Change6609 6 months ago
@Change6609 It must suck to live so terrified of your fellow man
CitizenKNUCKLEHEAD 6 months ago
Today, ATF director Kenneth Mason was replaced because he let thousands of heavy arms fall in the hands of arms dealers. Mexican authorities complain that many of these arms have been sold to Mexican drug cartels. With one of these arms an american borderpoliceman was shot dead earlier this year. Mexicans say that US arms are feeding the drug cartels in Mexico.
In fact; the liberal private arms laws in the US are a main cause for all violence with arms, in and outside the US!
Change6609 6 months ago
Put that M7 SFK into production that might be cooler than a shorty AR
razor12516 6 months ago
My uncle's cousin's uncle owns arsenal! No joke. I'm dead serious.
huntrtrapr 7 months ago
Why does the Russian krink kit have two bolts packed in it? Is one for full and the other semi auto?
30129ss 7 months ago
california gun laws are so gay!
MAFsoldier 7 months ago 40
i bet tht bald mother fucker wanted to sock nutn the whole time.
PhillyGunCollector 7 months ago
@PhillyGunCollector They're buddies. That's a bet I'd take. -- Veri (Nutn's sister)
nutnfancy 7 months ago 5
walker reminds me of Hitman
EmofacePS3 7 months ago
Is an airsoft legal in the Republik of Kalifornia?
2550505 7 months ago
CALI LEGAL GUN IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!!!!
50TNCSA 8 months ago
Oh, actually I'm sure I saw this when it came out haha just wasn't looking into an AK at the time. I'm glad companies like Ruger, S&W and Arsenal are helping out us Californians. It's tough to see these guns on your vids but I can't shoot even a neutered version of it because of some silly rule.
EverythingisFire 8 months ago
Haha..great to see you made a vid on this :) I'm actually looking into AK's right now and it looks like Arsenal's SGL23 is for me.
EverythingisFire 8 months ago
I don't think I could live in CA with all the restrictions on the guns. I carry every day to and from work (LEO) but as a private. citizen that would suck out there. Yes, I'm armed mist of the time, with fire arm and a knife. I am glad to know there is a company waiting to help the people in CA when the gun laws are changed for the better. Give Walker a break. It's great you have that special friendship. Thanks for the video, I liked it.
DennyRec 9 months ago
I really wish there was a company that made made AK's that are CA legal without the use of a "key" or tool. I would much rather have a hunting style stock stock with no key required than a pistol grip with a key required. Part of the Philosophy Of Use on a firearm like this is to have quick reload ability, plus i dont wanna have to worry about losing that dang key. I've looked around but haven't seen any except for Saiga, but I've read that those are CA illegal. suggestions anyone?
SuperYoed 9 months ago
@SuperYoed hunting your stuck with a saiga they are plain and no they dont take ak mags the saiga mags are 50 bucks each have fun
09smokeyBear 8 months ago
@SuperYoed Interordnance casars are ca legal. they dont come with pistol grip or bullet button. you can usually get them from big 5, if there not on display they will special order. check out the interordnance website.
endgamr 8 months ago
No offense but welding your BB in is stupid. You have permanently chastised ypur weapon. You should have read up on calguns dot net and you would have realized we have more options. Excuse my spelling as I am posting this from my phone.
timswilsonjr 10 months ago
I never said they would. I have featureless and bb weapons here in CA so I know what I am talking about. You may not get in trouble for one bit poli,e who are uneducated on the matter can still bring you in. I actually never saod the CA DOJ will approve of any BB because the are inherently anti-gun. So no, they will never approve of one even though they can. My point was that this Arsenal AK is not approved. They and nutnfancy mententioned it is when it is notapproved.
timswilsonjr 10 months ago
@timswilsonjr The Arsenal AK's do not need "approval" in the sense that handguns do with the roster of approved handguns. The definition of an assault weapon in California PC 12276.1 at its core is a "semiautomatic centerfire rifle that has the CAPACITY to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following".....As long as the magazine requires the use of a "tool" to remove, then it is perfectly legal for importation into CA.
Painkiller9013 10 months ago
@Painkiller9013 Ok. I never said it did. I am just saying it is not because they advertised it as such.
timswilsonjr 10 months ago
@timswilsonjr continued...
The "capacity to accept" feature has been removed with the instillation of the magazine locking device. I had my own reasons for welding mine in place. The weld can be undone should I decide to move to free state! And Calguns are not a source I use for legal advice.
As long as the rifle that is being imported meets the requirements under CA law with regards to 12276.1, then the manufacturer r importer does not need "approval" fro the DOJ.
Painkiller9013 10 months ago
@Painkiller9013
Then your making a mistake. Calguns is the only front on our rights fighting the gun grabbers. The NRA does little to nothing here in CA. The CRPA and the Calguns foundation work together to help preserve and restore our gun rights here in California. They pushed the BB by carefully dissecting the law. No one since has been convicted for having a AW when a BB is properly installed and Calguns helps those victims get cleared of bogus chargers pinned by anti-gun police.
timswilsonjr 9 months ago
@Painkiller9013
Anyways, if you read my first post and realize what I meant, then you have no argument. The fact that I even replied to your post upsets me. I generally don't get into pissing matches with people online. All I said/meant was that these rifles are being advertised as being California Approved, and they are NOT period. Be it these vids, emails with Arsenal or forums they are always advertised as that when they are not.
timswilsonjr 9 months ago
@timswilsonjr On the contrary sir; there is no argument here. No where in the video does it say that these weapons are "California approved". The only reference to any legalities with regards to these rifles are that they meet the configuration requirements for the laws of the State of California referencing California PC 12276.1 which defines an assault rifle as "A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to
accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following"....
Painkiller9013 9 months ago
@timswilsonjr you can read that code section yourself. Because the Arsenal rifles are equipped with the magazine locking device, the "capacity to accept" feature has been eliminated and the weapon is no longer considered an Assault Weapon as it is defined in 12276.1
The requirement for importation has been met with the installation of the magazine lock and therefore the rifle is legal to import into California. A loophole, maybe? Legal, yes! Annoys the politicians, sure.
Good day sir.
Painkiller9013 9 months ago
@Painkiller9013
I am well aware of the law. I have an Arsenal shipped to me with no pistol grip.
I own a few AR15/10's and a few AK's so I as well know the law. You are correct about to video. I was thinking that off the top of my head. However if you look at the vieo description it does say "California Approved".
Yes it is all legal, by our view of the law. I would hope that you do realize that in the past gun manufactures have "interpreted" the law only to have it called illegal.
timswilsonjr 9 months ago
@timswilsonjr
Do you recall the GSG5 debacle?
timswilsonjr 9 months ago
I never said they would. I have featureless and bb weapons here in CA so I know what I am talking about. You may not get in trouble for one bit poli,e who are uneducated on the matter can still bring you in. I actually never saod the CA DOJ will approve of any BB because the are inherently anti-gun. So no, they will never approve of one even though they can. My point was that this Arsenal AK is not approved. They and nutnfancy mententioned it is when it is notapprived
timswilsonjr 10 months ago
It's good to see they have finally come around and decided to help us Californians out BUT I'm bummed about that proprietary lock. I know they are just doing what their lawyers advised them to do but any Californian who already owns high cap mags won't be able to legally use them in this rifle.
Also, there is potential for high cap mags being legally sold in CA somewhat soon. Unfortuantely, this possible proliferation of high caps won't matter to anyone with this rifle.
andrewjarvi 10 months ago
What is with the 5 round mags that Arsenal sends out with their guns, it looks as though it has room enough for 10 in there yet it only goes down so far. Kind of a bummer.
RyanR3volution 11 months ago
Since they have ak-47s, why don't they make the big brother, the dragunov svd?tell them that
videosbythe5 11 months ago
@videosbythe5 There's a couple of reasons for that. 1st even though the Dragunov is fully legal to import in a complete mil-spec configuration, the Russians for some reason just don't want to do it and no US importer has tried to make a deal with them (I have no idea why). 2nd, it would take Arsenal or any other company several years to set up the facilities to manufacture them here and even then the price would be incredibly high for a while. I would love an SVD too. maybe, one day though. :)
Rektek23 11 months ago
@Rektek23 maybe someday, and nutnfancy can do a tabletop!but russia is already doing that, probably
videosbythe5 11 months ago
what are your views on century international arms ak's
johnnykaos313 11 months ago
Love the smile Walker, love the SGLs.
doublebackdude 1 year ago
Did he just say there was a party goin on deep inside him? HAHAHAHAHA
rqm420 1 year ago
quality .22lr AK trainer
I'm waiting
MaxAC40 1 year ago
I love that Nutn gets his valid points in there from an operating standpoint. Nice job, buddy. Good on Walker for taking the time to go over the inventory, not to mention his time on Calguns. Good points on the milled receiver too.... I know the co. you are addressing, ahem.
All Californians appreciate what Arsenal has done & their effort to keep the AK a legal & viable firearm. Got one last year without the proprietary BB. Lets see more AKs from the 100 series with a hooded front sight.
lazerz4eyez 1 year ago
Yo the music to the video sound like it came from a porno Lol, good vid tho. Great info
MrFORTYNINER 1 year ago
One of the best SYSTEMS for California is the SKS. Because of the fixed 10 rd mag you can put on a Tapco stock with pistol grip and adjustable butt stock. Combined with a SKS Bandolier and some stripper clips you can carry 200 rounds of fast load ammo for very low money. If you buy this gun or even the nice low cost SAIGA you will spend many hundreds more on 10 rd mags and a harness to carry them all. Also because the SKS is 50 yrs. old you can have the Bayonet in California too.
tallesta 1 year ago
Man... so much stuff I want after watching this vid. RPK's looking great. Kinda intrigued by that Krinkov with silencer at 21:04 wish Nutn had talked about that. But what I'm most excited about: SGL-21 and 31 WITH RUSSIAN SIDE FOLDER!!!!!! Lookin good at Arsenal, wish I was PFI rich.
ImWatchinTheTube 1 year ago
is that a silencer on the end of that AK? or is it just a flash hider? 1:07
Solanum20 1 year ago
@Solanum20 Just a muzzle brake/flash hider. Now that I think of it, there arn't all that many silencers for AK style rifles. And I know they're out there, cuz I remember reading an article in a magazine about how Russian Spetznaz troops liked the AK 47 because of better penetration/power and because of the subsonic ammo they have for the 7.62x39 (which I also have never seen).
ImWatchinTheTube 1 year ago
@Solanum20 Its the arsenal Ak-74 muzzle brake / flash hider.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
Video is great as usually, but we definitely need to stop this CA nonsense! It is irritating illogical stupidity of liberals doesn’t do ANY good for decent Californians. Hopefully after this “invasion” AK regain its popularity in CA up to the point when finally something good will birth in this state! Let’s OVERLOAD CA with firearms for now and then overturn idiotic bans, enough liberal experiments, abhor it! Give your vote MAN if you agree!
yandexiridium 1 year ago
@yandexiridium Oh, but you don't want to enrage the Liberal Overlords, they'll just pass more stupid impractical laws that only makes them feel good. When you have the mayor of New York sending a small sting operation to Arizona wasting tax payers money investigating Gunshows?!?! Many of the 10 round bans are a holdover from the Clinton era Assault weapons ban, the day that Clinton signed that bill into law, American's 2nd amendment rights were trampled upon, lets not let that happen again!!
sirjohn113 1 year ago
@sirjohn113 Liberal overlords? Stop being a partisan puppet & stop spreading misinformation. Reagan & the Mulford Act of '67? How about Bush Sr. who banned the import of "assault weapons" in 1989? If you honestly believe it's only the left or the right that take away your 2nd Amend. rights, you are sorely mistaken. Government as a whole has slowly but surely taken measures to control the population, especially by aligning citizens to one of the two parties, neither of which benefit the ppl.
lazerz4eyez 1 year ago
okay the video is awesome but im into this music bro whats it called send it to me!!!!
arnoman92 1 year ago
I live in NYS and i have to say as much as I'm pissed off about the 10 rd restriction, the thing that pisses me off more is the restrictions on flash hiders/muzzle brakes, pistol grips, folding stocks, and bayonet lugs. Not only does the gun lack functionality, but it can't look cool either.
PikkupAndropov 1 year ago
i wanna know what the intro song is haha its pretty sick i could do a run and gun to it :)
arnoman92 1 year ago
i fucking hate it here in California these laws are forcing me to move out of state
Cutlerylover7 1 year ago
I like all the guns of the world except for California Legal Guns
G1721jeff 1 year ago
@G1721jeff I live in California and having these kind of options is great. People living in other states often take their gun rights for granted. In California it is a daily fight to keep what rights we have left.
Awesome AK's. It will be nice to add one of these to my AR15!
Awesome vid nutnfancy.
Painkiller9013 10 months ago
Don't see the use of a scope on an Kalibine at these close ranges. We used to paint the rear sight with nail polish and the front with pearl polish. You can also pick up antique clocks at some stores and scrape off the paint and mix it with clear polish, glows at night without need for photon charging as it's irradiated paint.
DeusVenator 1 year ago
I would much rather have a SAIGA rifle without the pistol grip in CA.
That way I can have a standard mag release. Just like the Springfield Armory M1A's
that have always been available in CA. Guns like that comply with the written CA law.
Guns with pistol grips and a tool mag release or bullet button (ARs) are legal at the
moment because of legal decisions in court cases as they have worked their way through the courts. calguns.net has a large section on this topic.
tallesta 1 year ago
They are shotguns, they are semi-automatic combat shotguns made for military or tactical use
gaussbay 1 year ago
ok i know im not very knowledgeable about guns but those didnt look like shotguns
misterniceguy1111 1 year ago
Because somehow a pistol grip makes a gun more dangerous.
Wabaanimkii 1 year ago
I think the NRA need to steep up on looking out in Gun Rights in CA.
gunsoutdoorsshooting 1 year ago
I love the AK's I was raised shooting a couple of liberated AK's, in recent years the standard for AK's in the US seems to have dropped and i'm really glad to see Arsenal bring that standard for quality back into this great weapons platform.
thanks for the Update, I've been trying to save up enough for one of these. -Big Bad Woof, Sheepdog for Life.
TjinTur 1 year ago
nice tune.....bust out the ecxtasy tabs and lets trip bawls!!!!
cuzimaluzer77 1 year ago
Citizens of Cali are getting the shaft......sorry
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dddxxxxxdxdxdxxxddxx 1 year ago
Nutn, you gotta stop it with that flash light. I noticed when it goes away from their faces, the lighting is better. I know you need it when you zoom in on the details and whatnot, but until then, let go of the flashlight. :)
MrClayfingers 1 year ago
I wish manufacturers would stop accommodating the communistic californian legislatures and light a fire under the asses of the people of california who the lawmakers work for and change the nonsense laws of that state.
glockblocker10 1 year ago
@glockblocker10 I agree. I think that the accommodation actually does more harm in the long run, but that's business.... what do you do. People in CA have too much sunshine and good times to do jack about it anyway.
MrClayfingers 1 year ago
aweome guns. whats the song at the end?
extremedealer 1 year ago
California is such a homo state.... look at what they are dong to a great classic rifle. Yeah it's Arsenal making a different mag release but if Cali didn't have such stupid laws.... none of this would happen. Dude $20 or whatever for a 10 rnd mag? pffffffffffffft hahahahahah that was something. Overall it was a nice vid.... Mr. English was pissed I would tell hahahah.
Eslamizar 1 year ago
Hey Nutn! I ended up boogieing to your intro music in this one! Couldn't help it LOL!
DarkAngelusV 1 year ago
i want a sbr arsenal so bad.
dp665 1 year ago
California legal and compliant:?? Ya right. Every informed person on california gun laws knows bullet buttons and all the likes are just grey area and are only "not illegal" yet because there hasn't been a very decisive case and ruling so far.
But about the CA legal gun, it doesn't seem like it, but arsenal really blew it by not going with a design like solartactical allowing you to remove the lock without damage to the original release for klydex grips or out of state use...
xetomg 1 year ago
what was the first gun he was shooting and is it legal in Massachusetts
juggalo7834 1 year ago
@juggalo7834 As long as the shotgun cant hold more than 6 shells its legal in MA. So if they do offer a 5+1 magazine for that particular shotgun its legal.
PEACHCRAZYFIREARMS 1 year ago
love the music
muskiekiller1301 1 year ago
Walker is great
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Of course Walker looks grumpy he has to deal with CA laws.
To be honest I avoid CA legal designs because I feel its a product that is side stepping the real problem witch is CA laws.
Warescrackdown 1 year ago
Of course Walker looks grumpy he has to deal with CA laws.
To be honest I avoid CA legal designs because I feel its a product that is side stepping the real problem with is CA laws.
Warescrackdown 1 year ago
California is a good state, but the gun laws can go fucking die. This semi-auto, 10 round, AK-74 with a key tool is the closest thing I can buy to the real AK-74 I want.
themanclaw2 1 year ago
The sad thing is that as large a company as they are, they don't know what they are talking about. We have been getting Arsenal AK's sent into CA for a long time now. Removing the pistol grip is the SAFEST way to avoid confusion. Arsenal is doing what we have been doing in CA for years now, using bullet buttons in many types and styles. We can also retain the pistol grip and use a filler that fills the gap between the back side of the pistol grip to the bottom of that stock.
timswilsonjr 1 year ago 3
@timswilsonjr Continued. I prefer that method because I can still remove magazines in a tactical or competition use. CALIFORNIANS do not be fooled. Talked to your local gun stores. Arsenal in NO way got "approval" for this. The CA DOJ has not and has no intention to "approve" any type of bullet button, mag release devices, grip fillers etc. The most common way these weapons are sold in California is without a pistol grip.
Visit Calguns.net for more information.
timswilsonjr 1 year ago
@timswilsonjr The California DOJ will not give approval, because they cannot give approval or dissapproval. For ant bullet-button configured rifle. The bullet-buttons are perfectly legal within the definition of an assault weapon as defined in 12276.1 of the CA Penal Code. Now do these bullet-button rifles have the "capacity to accept" feature referring to a detachable magazine; sure they do, but only if one is stupid enough to build one and NOT use the bullet button.
Painkiller9013 10 months ago
@timswilsonjr continued.... I have my AR5 that I built in 2008 and I have no problems taking it out to the range and I really don't give a **** abut what cops say; their opinions and the DOJ's opinion doesn't matter. The law is the law.
My bullet button is welded in place and it is PERFECTLY LEGAL. Arsenal does NOT need "approval" from the DOj unless they are shipping the rifles into California in their original unaltered configuration; of which they are NOT doing.
Thank you Arsenal!!!
Painkiller9013 10 months ago
californiastan
nunvikingsofthesea 1 year ago
just one prob with this vid nuttn, i was hung up on the first min or so dancing..and again at the end.
The85F0X 1 year ago
About F**King time. Man I am excited. Put me down for one. Thanks Arsenal California buyers won't let you down
dstanggt05 1 year ago
Great video - Don't live in CA - but glad to see they can join the rest of us now in owning (some) great firearms.
webdesigner33 1 year ago
Shot placement is the most important thing. I know Nutn would agree and has said that MANY times. It is called being "Combat Accurate" you aren't punching paper at 100yds and shooting quarters. You are moving and shooting, go do it and you will understand. I don't even need to argue my point. Most that are stupid don't know they are stupid. Remeber that. I love the Vids Nutn!!
gumbys1up 1 year ago
man these people are so dumb...nothing in their brains. just thinking with their dicks.
bahne69 1 year ago
Walker English, sounds like a secret agent code name.
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halla369 1 year ago
I want to own ak-47 or famas, is it legal to own in America?
Chromegrillz 1 year ago
@Chromegrillz depends on where you live but yes it is legal in many places even full autos are if you get the required training and permits
crashdummy40 1 year ago
i wanna see bump firing with this beast
RaxoIce 1 year ago
12:16
At first I laughed, and then I cried... I'm in California.
Ducky1138 1 year ago
A key to detach your magazine? What a bunch of fucking horseshit, fuck you California facists!
catholicforever 1 year ago
@catholicforever Living in Ca I can tell you it sucks. But my no means is the worst gun law we have. Why don't you try to pick one you complain about that would benefit more people? Because the the use a locked mag release is only needed for guns with pistol grips. Why don't you read more into a law before you just talk shit about all of California. And while the weather sucks for you guys, its been in the high 70*s ALL WEEK! lol
goldwest57 1 year ago
@goldwest57 Calm down, I wasn't talking about the people of California. I was talking shit on your law makers, for violating the Constitution.
catholicforever 1 year ago
@catholicforever I know what you were complaining about. My point is that out of all the stupid gun laws we have you could've picked a better one. Examples, A. no mags over 10rnds, B. Tarus Judge is considered a short barreled assault weapon, C. our new retarded ammo law, D. California Drop Test for pistols, which has banned tons of guns from Ca., E. our stupid waiting periods for long guns and handguns, F. our carry laws. And lets not forget carrying a baton in Ca. is a felony weapons charge
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@catholicforever Living in Ca I can tell you it sucks. But by no means is the worst gun law we have. Why don't you try to pick one you complain about that would benefit more people? Because the the use a locked mag release is only needed for guns with pistol grips. Why don't you read more into a law before you just talk shit about all of California. And while the weather sucks for you guys, its been in the high 70*s ALL WEEK! lol
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@catholicforever Living in Ca I can tell you it sucks. But by no means is the worst gun law we have. Why don't you try to pick one to complain about that would benefit more people? Because the the use a locked mag release is only needed for guns with pistol grips. Why don't you read more into a law before you just talk shit about all of California. And while the weather sucks for you guys, its been in the high 70*s ALL WEEK! lol
goldwest57 1 year ago
Yeah they give the death sentence to those who tamper with restrictions for "assault" weapons here, but they sure as $H!T don't for offenders like pedos and murderers, wait I forgot the pedos run Cr@p-E-Fornia. More or less though it is because the state is home to the worst minority individuals crammed up in what they call cities and those "politicians" in charge were a bunch of dope smoking hippies from back then. I can bore with the details, wish I can GTFO.
xxReaverXXCerberusxx 1 year ago
What's the name of this song in the background
eastoneagle75 1 year ago
Thanks again Nutnfancy!
DWgood2go 1 year ago
Totally.... BAD... ASS BABY!
74Hobbes 1 year ago
CA restrictions are insane. Too bad it affects so many people, CA being such a big state. Totally penalizes the wrong people.
I thought the original AKs were stamped and bent into shape. A forged receiver must be indestructible.
Deep13Deep13Deep13 1 year ago
its about time! and like the fact they'll remove the bullet thing if by some miracle CA gets its head out of it @$#.
Clayman302 1 year ago
You take your chances with 11 rounds. I'll take mine with 20,30,40, and since when is there just 1 bad guy.Usually work in gangs if I'm not mistaken.
okiefied1xdm45 1 year ago
@okiefied1xdm45 You have mental problems.
Dreamingallyear 1 year ago
@Dreamingallyear you bet cha!! HA AH
okiefied1xdm45 1 year ago
@Dreamingallyear You bet cha !!
okiefied1xdm45 1 year ago
@migkillertwo I guess you know so much. How about you research Officer Down: The Peter Soulis Incident. Suspect got shot 22 times with 40 caliber Ranger SXT's before he quit firing back at the officer. Same thing as PDX1 which the FBI uses. 22 TIMES! How about you tell the officer he only needs 10 rounds. Give me a fucking break. Grow up and quite being so nieve.
TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago 28
@TheSquirrel1986 was he wearing obviously impressive armor???if not the cop needs to learn how to shoot OR the story is complete bullshit over dramatic nonsense to make a good story out of it and didnt happen at all the way it was said i read the whole thing
crashdummy40 1 year ago
@TheSquirrel1986 Accuracy is final... its as simple as that. I could take 40 rounds to the hand and still fight. Accuracy is final remeber that.
gumbys1up 1 year ago
@gumbys1up Are you guys serious? Let me hear you talk all your one shot kill bs after you have someone shooting back at you. You train for center of mass shots of course. The suspect took 22 center of mass shots and kept fighting.
You sit here and say accuracy is everything....well it is but that goes right out the window when you have someone high on drugs with a gun shooting back at you. I also have cases where suspect took 12 gauge slug to center of mass and kept shooting back....hold on
TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago
@TheSquirrel1986 Round count and caliber come into play AFTER AND ONLY AFTER you are able to put rounds on target. A well placed head shot or the heart/lung shot is basically a fatal wound. Also I didn't mention anything about 1 shot, 1 kill. You Did. I agree with completely about carrying as much ammo as possible. I carry a SA XD45GAP and carry 3 mags of 9 rounds a piece. If you honestly think your round count in the mag is going to make the difference. Well It does but only in WAR. Not WROL.
gumbys1up 1 year ago
@gumbys1up I'm not turning this into a forum bs argument. Placement does matter of course.... Senator Giffords took a shot to the head and it was not fatal. Almost all real professionals will tell you to shoot until the threat has stopped. Go talk to ER doctors who have worked on gun shot victims, the survival rate is above 50 percent. A suspect can take a shot to the heart and still have time to shot back. Accuracy matters. I'm done arguing.
TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago
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How do you know 10 rounds is adequate for self defense. Educate everyone with your illogical bs. Do a little research in Police officer involved shootings and see the 20 plus rounds it took just to get a suspect to stop what he was doin...NOT KILL just to freaking stop him. There are thousands of cases like this. So to tell me that 10 rounds is enough is just stupidicy.
TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago
Haha. There's a party deep inside of him.
TheBattleSCAR 1 year ago
the peoples republic of california..... i hate it here. i love the ak and would love to own a 100% honest to goodness ak, but i cant.
Zattk94 1 year ago
I hate how nutinfancy thinks his ideas are best- how often does anyone roll under a car? Nutin doesn't understand that the makers also have to obey the law and make a gun cheap enough
TheKidDYNAMITE912 1 year ago
This product makes me sick....Sorry nutnfancy i just couldnt watch this vid for more then 1min...
Popsicle22754 1 year ago
"Unconstitutional bans"
that's a tough case to make, that people have a fundamental right to own a semi-auto rifle with a detachable magazine. California allows people to own handguns and shotguns, and semi-auto rifles that can hold 10+1 rounds, which in a functioning society are perfectly adequate for self-defense.
migkillertwo 1 year ago
@migkillertwo Two things in your statement don't sit well with me. First,"California allows", nobody tells me what or how much of anything I am "allowed" to use when protecting my family.
Second, "functioning society", sometimes society functions in evil ways, be prepared. In a perfect world your statement would be valid, but unfortunately its not.
okiefied1xdm45 1 year ago
@okiefied1xdm45
"nobody tells me what or how much of anything I am "allowed" to use when protecting my family."
Alright. What if a convicted felon felt that he needed a fully automatic AR-15 and a beta C-mag to protect his family. Does the government have no power to prevent him from getting that weapon?
"sometimes society functions in evil ways"
well the constitution assumes that society doesn't function in such a way where people can use 30 round detachable magazines for more than...
migkillertwo 1 year ago
...recreation.
migkillertwo 1 year ago
@migkillertwo I see your point, I look at things from my law abiding citizen side of things.Sorry for the youtube judo session, I get worked up sometimes.
okiefied1xdm45 1 year ago
@migkillertwo a convicted felon is not allowed to have weapons... rightfully so. Convicted felons have a very limited amount of rights. They gave them up when they committed a felony.
usmcboyer 1 year ago
@usmcboyer In the constitutional sense of "rights", rights are absolute and can't be given up. For instance, convicted felons still have the freedom of religion, press, speech, and they also retain freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, and still have the basic rights of the accused if charged again.
Since Heller upheld the right to bear arms as a "fundamental right", I'm very interested to see if the court will be willing to apply that consistently and decide that felons...
migkillertwo 1 year ago
...also have the right to bear arms in the same sense that they have freedom of speech, religion, etc.
migkillertwo 1 year ago
@migkillertwo good points. I think that there are certain crimes though, that need to be more heavily punished. Basically violent or really messed up things need to be controlled. I dont think anyone can argue that point. Believe me I am a insanely huge supporter of the constitution, but there comes a point when through your own actions, what you can and can not do needs to be restricted.
usmcboyer 1 year ago
@migkillertwo well you kind of need a background check where im from to get a firearm (but it is different all over the place)
and most states (if not all) have a ban on magazines that hold more than a certain number of rounds. in DC its 10 (recent handgun ban got lifted) , in NY its 7 etc...
but i do understand where you both come from. and in reality, you only need one in the chamber, and a steady hand to protect your family from a single assailant
CrimsonOmen407 1 year ago
@CrimsonOmen407
"have a ban on magazines that hold more than a certain number of rounds"
as far as I'm aware, most states do not have any limit on magazine capacity, and some have limits just for show. Ohio, for instance, has a 30-round limit, but that does not apply to any NFA registered weapon, or weapon chambered in .22 rimfire
migkillertwo 1 year ago
@migkillertwo quite a few northern states do as far as i know, but idk if the caliber matters. you could be right on that one, im no expert by any means
CrimsonOmen407 1 year ago
@okiefied1xdm45
Thanks for the retort to migkillertwo's statement. I am glad to see reasonable people stand up the brainwashing of the Pelosi ilk.
RIPkloaa 1 year ago
@migkillertwo How do you know 10 rounds is adequate for self defense. Educate everyone with your illogical bs. Do a little research in Police officer involved shootings and see the 20 plus rounds it took just to get a suspect to stop what he was doin...NOT KILL just to freaking stop him. There are thousands of cases like this. So to tell me that 10 rounds is enough is just stupidicy.
TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago 20
@TheSquirrel1986
"do a little research in police officer involved shootings"
Trust me, I know a lot about guns. I personally own several pistols and so-called "assault weapons", I'm just taking issue with Nutn's rather "liberal" use of the word "unconstitutional". But I'd like to know how many cases there are where 11 rounds of 5.56 nato or 7.62x39, or even 11 rounds of speer gold dot 9mm couldn't stop an attacker.
migkillertwo 1 year ago
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TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago
@TheSquirrel1986
well, I stand corrected. Now if you can convince a federal judge you'd have something.
migkillertwo 1 year ago
@migkillertwo I'm not saying that its illogical to have 10 round magazines. I'm saying that its illogical to say that 10 rounds is enough to defend your life. Totally different. If i'm limited to 10 round mags....I'm carrying 2 spares maybe 3. Let the high court decide what it wants....silly sheeple when will you learn.
TheSquirrel1986 1 year ago
@TheSquirrel1986 You tell'em squirrel
okiefied1xdm45 1 year ago
@migkillertwo Sphinctor says what?
TheBattleSCAR 1 year ago