I really don't understand whether DJENT is actually a sub-genre or just a way to play guitar (guitar technique)...but I did enjoy your "rant", I'm digging new bands like Periphery, Tesseract etc. Even though im a Thrash dude my self and fuck yea Testament!!!! \m/
Djent.......is not a genre. So....yeah. Quit with the boring elitist hipster b.s Your not an ''elite'', ALOT of people listen to bands that use the DJENT GUITAR TONE...so....yeah
@twiztidlestat Way to A) Take it personally, and B) assume so much from ONE word in the title (which you obviously misunderstood the implication of.)
It's entertainment. Get over it and yourself.
Djent is indeed a genre in that many of the bands who use said "guitar tone" have massive similarities in their music structure, style, and writing. What the fuck else IS a genre or sub-genre?
P.A. "a lot" is two words. There is no such word as "alot"
Typical ''go to'' garbage of grammar bashing when you have little to back up your idea. It is a genre, TO YOU, but since YOU aren't the end all be all of metal, you can feel how you wish. No one is telling you not to. But, also, that doesn't make me incorrect either.
@JeremyGViking Thank you very much! That is the first clear, concise answer to that particular question I have received in 348 comments. I appreciate it.
And, the little factoid about the Swedish name for D&D is pretty cool too. I shall have to use that at work tomorrow for "Ramsay's Rather Useless Fact of the Day". ("Useless" simply implying "at what point will my knowledge of this fact ever actually be needed?", not a negative connotation.)
@magicmarker92 It's a Dead Kennedys - inspired banner, from their song "Nazi Punks Fuck Off", but also has some personal meaning as grandfathers on both sides of my family served in WWII. One of them did not make it back.
I don't understand how no leads is awesome. It's a really annoying trend in metal imo. Also I am not a fan of super down-tuned guitars...at all. I also hate death growls.
I don't even care if you call me "not a real metalhead" because despite my love of metal, I don''t like to be known as a "metalhead"
Too many of these new djent bands are nothing more than glorified deathcore bands with the exception of Tesseract and Periphery. Vildhjarta just sounds like a nonstop breakdown to me.
@FinnMetal4Life Oh, I don't know, I've been listening to Vildhjarta's new album "Masstaden" pretty constantly for the past couple weeks, and I hear a flow to it. Reminds me more of Meshuggah than any other djent project out there a the moment, in my opinion. Elitist has that sound as well.
@Dougiedogg23ws6 It varies depending on regional vernacular. I've even heard it pronounced "zhent" or "xent". *shrugs* I've heard it most commonly pronounced as... well, shit, it's pretty hard to spell out in text a term that stems from onomatopoeia. "djent" really is the most accurate spelling, though I'm not sure where you're getting the "i" from. *shrugs again* like I said, regional vernacular, I guess.
@Dougiedogg23ws6 haha, me too, till i looked it up. "dent" is actually an onomatopoeia for how the guitar chugging sounds. when misha mansoor chugs, it sounds like "djent, djent, dent, ..." so it's a word for how the music sounds. lol
I kinda like ???? (four question marks) but I think this sound is a bit overdone. Am looking forward to the future songwriting in metal to include more elements of it, but more discrete...
I don't think clean vocals have any place in metal. I think they should go away and never come back. Its unfortunate that so much djent is laced with them.
@3Dmultimedia1 God fucking forbid I don't care for the music of the 'HOLY SHIT SO FKIN METAL THEYR SO GOOD \\\\,,,///' band Pantera. Metal in my opinion should be the most aggressive angry sound possible, and clean vocals just don't me riled up.
@gingerbox616 I can agree with you on that. For me, Instrumental tech. music is easier to enjoy. I do enjoy TesseracT's vocals but, they are ambient metal which, I think, adds space for vocals.
@guitarhero01234 I've found that it takes a pretty deep understanding of music theory, multiple time signatures and poly-rhythms to really get into djent. For me it was a general boredom with what I felt was the cut-and-dry music assembly of the common market. I was looking for something a little more abstract yet still with intensity.
It's definitely not for everyone, that's for sure.
Actually, I am a guitarist myself, and I do understand all of these things. In fact, I put a lot of these elements in my music. The overall sound just didn't appeal to me.
@Sharingan6277 I think they are a mix of 3 genres/sounds: Progressive Metal, Metalcore, and Djent. I haven't heard much from Protest the Hero, or White Chapel, but I have heard and do indeed like Between the Buried and Me, Veil of Maya, and After the Burial. Also, as "WebDevFTW" suggested, "Elitist". Awesome shit.
@WebDevFTW SOOOO fucking crazy that you would mention "Elitist"... I JUST (about 10 minutes ago) paid for and downloaded their (bonus) EP "Earth" from the iTunes Store. Fucking Epic.
Now, kindly stop stalking me through my balcony window....
Djent is unfairly classified. I view the style of metal as progressive. Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Animals As Leaders, and Vildjharta are all prog as fuck!
@MetalMikeCass I offer this thought for you to mull over:
Djent can be progressive. Progressive can be Djent. But not all Progressive is Djent, though MOST (not all) Djent is progressive.
As I (and a growing number of people) see it, Djent is progressive with an added element that is not present in all progressive metal/music. Yes, they both share off-time, multi-time signature composition, but that "Djent" sound which is shaping the genre isn't present in all prog. bands.
@powermetal6669 I respectfully disagree. I find it to be one of the most intricate and technical styles of music out there today. However, due to it's overwhelming complexity it is lost on most listeners. It really is true that you need a deep, technical understanding of music, time signatures, and poly-rhythms to truly "get" djent, and even then there are no guarantees it will appeal to you.
hey dude you should check out the band protest the hero they are siiick you may like them if you have not herd them also really digging your videos man :)
wow so there is this new band who is just getting there start on here, "periphery!"
the first periphery album was pretty much ONLY materials from BULB, sooo technically... youre late as shit haha BULB has been doing his own thing since 2002-2003
@ACDCwarmachine I actually own the European import version of Periphery's first full-length album on CD. The only criticism I have for them is that I prefer the singer they had from the "Bulb and Periphery" demo CD they put out before releasing 1st CD which had Spencer as the lead singer. Their former singer in my opinion is far superior to Spencer.
Also, I never claimed to be on the cutting edge. I understand that djent isn't "new". But I stand by the idea it's "new" to the average listener.
ok this is the best video i have seen in a long time and I just wanted to let you know bulb is one person, misha mansoor, and he writes all the music for periphery!! he started that band to give his music the band feel, he plays guitar in it obviously, also check out veil of maya and born of osiris, not really djent but veryy good metal. and Ive had the opprutunity to see after the burial and periphery and animals as leaders live, and djent is even better in the live setting :)
@OfficialTracesBand Yes, I am well-aware of who Bulb is. As stated in another comment, I own the European import of Periphery's first full-length album, and have been tracking their progress ever since I heard the "Bulb and Periphery" demo CD cuts on various internet sights.
I also have After the Burial, Animals as Leaders, and Born of Osiris in my media player library.
ProTip: Check out TesseracT and Vildhjarta if you like the djent genre/sound
Oh my god, djent is a genre. It was just a guitar sound at first, but now you can hear something and say "oh, that's djent." It's recognizable and can be categorized , it is now a genre folks.
@blackshadowbass Thank you! I so wholeheartedly agree. It is the evolution of music; the evolution of a sound into a genre! Why do so few people get that?
@RantingRamsay Exactly! If I can say "I listen to djent" and you can think of some bands right away that fit the bill, it can be called a genre. It's easier than saying "bands like Periphery, After the Burial, Bulb, Animals As Leaders, etc." It has a distinct sound and many common features and last time I checked, that qualifies it as a subgenre.
@blackshadowbass (1 week later...) Have you also checked out these bands? TesseracT and Vildhjarta? Both of which should have full-length albums available for purchase! (I think Vildhjarta JUST released a full-length album sometime in late November. I haven't picked it up yet, as I am giving my wife a chance to buy it for me for Xmas *chuckle*, but from the teasers they (Vildhjarta) have posted of it here on YouTube, it's going to be absolutely face-melting!
@RantingRamsay I absolutely have! If you want to hear all of Vildhjarta's new album, there is a stream somewhere where you can hear the whole thing. I believe it is on the Guitar World website. From what I recall, it sounded amazing! I will have to listen again now, it's good stuff.
@wetoji Eh, they're not bad at all. I really enjoyed them when their first album came out (I was still in high school), but rather liked them a little bit less with each album they put out, to the point when Hypnotize and Mesmerize came out I pretty much washed my hands of them entirely.
pissing razors is so fucking old school, i would consider them like nu metal, hard rock, with repedative bone crushing bar chords riffs, kinda like machine head well early machine head , it has that early ny hardcore approach.
@carnicerodeperros Heh, I guess they are kinda oldschool. I keep forgetting that I saw them twice on their original release tour... I don't want to think of myself as that old! Wah!
Don't forget, they were one of the first "non-progressive" metal bands to utilize off-time looping rhythms. Their first 3 albums are chock-full of odd-loops, and both 7/8 and 5/4 time signatures.
djent definitly is no genre. djent, invented by meshuggah and spread with periphery around the world, there are a few bands like tesseract that formed the idea of djent to be technichally virtuoso bands using equalizer, often just intrumental.
so what? djent is no genre. djent is a guitar-sound, a guitar-technique, and bands use it. there is "death-djent", deathcore with djent for example. djent is no genre it just means the sound even nu-metal could use the djent sound but stay nu-metal.
You remind me of my friend's older brother, and I love it. Always looking for new musicin the Metal/Hard Rock/punk/etc genre. Will definitely check out some of these bands you listed.
As far as how it's progressing, I will also go ahead and say Thrash is making a pretty big comeback into the scene.
have you heard "parable of insanity" by IN EXILE cause it sounds pretty similar to meshugguh but more trible-india based- but the last minute of the song i literally came through my fucking desk!
@shredh3d I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that. Testament is an awesome PFM band. Not only were they one of the bands that pioneered (with Andy Sneap) the "turn of the century" metal sound with "The Gathering", a sound/mastering chain that was oft-repeated by many in the early 2000's.
Plus, their lyrics are quite unique. They speak about a lot of topics and ideas that most metal bands ignore.
I have respect for BLS, but Testament also has my respect.
those bands are cool but the thing for me is live play, meshuggah is sick live and alot of djent bands seem to just suck live. your only as good as you actually play.
All great bands, I love the genre, for many years, I've never found a sound that I was like "THIS IS IT!" until I heard djent, it changed my life. And I agree with aaron, djent bands need some instrumentals just to go insane.
Meshuggah and Sybreed were probably the forefathers of the Djent genre. :) Plus when it comes to pissing razors it's like Pantera and Fear Factory had an epic baby. Gawd I feel like I could sit for hour chatting about metal with you. xD
@Theheavymetalscott Only if you don't mind being cut-off and interrupted constantly. *chuckle* I have a really hard time not doing that in conversations about music. Heheh.
Yeah, P.R. got better and better with each album they put out, in my opinion. I was lucky enough to see them on the Cast Down the Plague album tour 3 times (each time in Columbus or Cinci.), the last show they were playing with both SkinLab and S.O.D. Awesome show and even got to hang on PR's bus for a while after the show.
@RantingRamsay Lucky man! I've not been too many live shows but out of the gigs I've been too I have to say seeing Ensiferum, Amon Amarth and Children of Bodom in one night was freaking epic carnage! COB played living on a prayer by Bon Jovi halfway through their set randomly? :D I met the Ensiferum lead guitarist too. But if there's one thing I love about Metal gigs is they're always dirt cheap and you'll never have more fun in your life!
@Theheavymetalscott (1 week later) Yeah, it was pretty lucky. I hung around the bus after the show hoping to get an autograph or two on a cd, and got into a conversation with the bass player. When I told him I could play just about every song from the first album from memory he was intrigued, and bet me I couldn't. So he brought me on the bus, plugged me into his practice rig and made me put-up or shut-up.
Well, I decided to take the album on in order and... (continued)
...and by the time I got through the first song I had the attention of everyone on the bus (including the whole band.) I only had to play through two more songs before he stopped me and said "Ok, I believe you, that's pretty fuckin' awesome" and then proceeded to feed me beer and joints for the next couple of hours.
Probably the most awesome memory I have to cherish, next to my wedding.
@aec300 ...yeah, I rather alluded to that fact by mentioning that Meshuggah pretty much created the djent sub-genre about 1/3 of the way through the video.
But yes, Contradictions Collapse started the poly-rhythm movement, and Destroy Erase Improve moved more towards djent, but it didn't really come into the form it embodies now until Mesh put out Chaosphere (using 7-string guitars.)
@dimeowns100 I think it's really funny how I've had about a half-dozen to ten or so different phonetic pronunciation keys for the name "Vildhjarta", and no two of them are the same.
But if you speak the native language of their country and are telling me it's "Veel-jar-tah" (which syllable has the stress, by the way?) then I believe you.
i find it funny how djent originally drags people away from common genres and yet djent starts to sound extremely linear and similar to other djent artists. Doesn't that defy the entire point of looking for something different? I have a very distinct ear to subtle differences but i cant help but notice vast similarities in the way meshuggah/AAL/Periphery with the djent palming technique and it honestly already has me bored. Even now djent is a relatively new genre but i think others will agree
@AlteredVisionz Well, I would consider that the sound/genre is still relatively young and that a lot of artists are still experimenting with the song-assembly.
Djent's aim isn't just being unique and not sounding like everyone else. Like all other genres and sub-genres, it has qualifications, but no rules. The key aspects are simply a low-register tuning and off-time poly rhythms. When you loop an off-time poly-rhythm enough times, the human ear adjusts and hears it as linear.
@RantingRamsay thanks for the history lesson lol. I do love my fair share of djent bands but i shake my head when i hear bands making it obvious that their sound is solely to be different and not really for a tasteful music aspect. Like you said, there are great aspects to the genre but i hope it continues to develop and broaden its spectrum a little bit. I think that trying to apply rules to music is silly so i would avoid that idea, but you are definitely right in your description of the genre
Glad you did a video on djent. I agree that it really is starting to take metal by storm and will definitely be a big part of metal for a good amount of time. Btw if you like bands like Tesseract and Periphery, I just found this band Shattered Skies and they have an EP called 'Reanimation' and it sounds so fucking epic like movie soundtrack epic. If you have heard of them, my bad but I just wanted to get this band out there.
@fangorious2 I think I would put them in with "Pure Metal" as well. Hell, for a while at one point in time (if they do not still...) they referred to themselves as "Pure American Metal".
However, it seems like there's a tendency for a lot of people out there to classify them as Metalcore. I don't agree. I really don't see it, but that seems to be a growing public perception. *shrugs*
Yeah fair play buddy. I enjoyed the rant though so keep it up. You a fan of Textures at all? although i wouldn't bury them within the djent genre they're still extremely good metal, technically profound and damn enjoyable.
"Blows Meshuggah out the water in terms of technicality" this confuses me. Obzen is a great example of Meshuggah being gods of technical music, if you play an instrument this is imminently obvious.
@k90001234 The entire statement was something along the lines blows them out of the water in terms of "technicality musicality, and listenability", but with how many people including yourself whom have made a similar comment it looks like I'm going to have to explain what I meant by that. Probably in a short video-response to myself. But the general gist is this: Yes, Meshuggah is EXTREMELY technical, but sometimes not the most musical or listenable band because of it. There's more to it though
Not sure if that was ranting but it was awkward :P. Anyways, THANK YOU for explaining why it's called Djent. I heard about this term like a week ago and have researching bands trying to figure out WHY it's called Djent. Some of the bands you mentioned I just label as Tech Metal. I think the only people that call Tech Metal Djent are just the elitists and the kids who look up to the elitists.
Closing statement: "So if you're hating on metal because you're just some little whiny bitch or something, I don't know, you need to give metal a chance because metal just reaches the whole spectrum, because there's metal for everyone and everyone needs some metal in their life" = so true. I love metal all around. From radio metalheads, to casual and hardcore metalheads, there is metal for everyone! No excuses!
meshuggah is the most technical band on the face of this earth tho periphery is good and is one of my personal favorite bands they will never be as technical as meshuggah nor will any other math metal or djent band
@guitarfan149 I don't know, man, Vildhjarta can really keep pace with Meshuggah when it comes to technicality and complexity. Their (Vild's) new stuff is AMAZING. (...1 month later...)
I disagree about those bands blowing meshuggah out of the water. Meshuggah's earlier stuff was amazing, and there newer stuff is fucking unreal!!! Nothing remake, obzen, and Catch 33? C mon dude, those bands you mentioned were great but dont even come close to blowing meshuggah out of the water.
i love mesuggha but the riffs are to repetitive, thats why i like the new wave of djent bands BUT i must say that i like the bands that use groove, not the ones playing technical djent all the time.
@Earthshallperish Check out some earlier Meshuggah, like from "Destroy, Erase, Improve", or "Contradictions Collapse" (most often sold as an extended disc with the "None" EP tacked on at the end.
It was much less repetitive than stuff from "Nothing" or "Catch Thirty-Three".
ok eight strings are f or f sharp or lower...... 6 strings down to c. 7s are b to like a flat....... c and b arnt that low lol and doesnt necessarily mean you get the sound. it also has to do with the tone of amp or gear.... generally lower on the bass and treble and crank the mids..... 7 and eight string guitars always get the djent sound...... so the notes are from b to like an octave e.. thats the tunings you want to get that djent sound..... orrrrr the amps granted periphery goes to c also
@Marshallfan567 I appreciate the semantics clarification. However, I don't think the specifics negate any of the points I made. I think I made it clear I was speaking in a generalization when it comes to the tunings.
Admittedly, I'm not a guitarist, I'm a bass player. And though I like the djent style/genre, I prefer to play more "traditional" heavy metal styles, exemplified by bands like Fear Factory, S.Y.L, Testament, Pissing Razors, Skinlab, stuff like that. I'm no expert, just a fan.
if you like djent mate check out some ausie bands..... we tend to take djent influnces on bored. bands like my band sending artax (progressive extreme metal) check the song "dont forget the sistine" its proberly the most djent song we have but listen to the other stuff see what u like or dont like or the band shifting the paradigm awesome djent groove bassed metal band
@RantingRamsay dont get me wrong, there is a select few djent styled bands I enjoy, mostly just instrumental though, BUT most djent in my honest opinion is just over glorified metalcore with some progressive elements and influence.
@Renkaru I was just being a semantics dick and subtly pointing out that your usage of a double-negative (isn't not) meant the literal translation of your statement was "djent is a genre."
I think your final sentence, however, shows a slight misunderstanding of the genre.
Yes, djent started as a "sound" but is evolving into a genre. Yes, there are a lot of metalcore bands out there that use the djent sound, but there are also bands that have made the djent sound (continued)
...have made the djent sound (combined with poly-rythmic timing) the sole focus of their music. Meshuggah is a great example of a band that did this (much earlier than most other djenty bands, I'd like to point out). They started out with off-time riffs and low tunings, and evolved that music into the beginnings of the djent sound so copied today.
Another band is Vildjharta who uses the groundwork Meshuggah laid out. They are not metalcore in the slightest. And there are more and more (cont..)
more and more bands coming out that take the same approach to this new budding genre.
Yes, there are a lot of metalcore bands out there just using a djenty sound to get more listeners, but there are just as many technically-minded musicians out there who understand the groundwork laid out by bands like Meshuggah and Sikth and taking it to the next level.
i LOVE all three of the bands you named, been listening to each of them for about a year now, djent metal is the only thing i listen to now, my playlist is just strictly djent and is almost up to 20 plus hours :) its completely changed my point of view on music and metal, every time i hear a song im thinking about how sick that song would be in djent form haha,
And i must add Seether is a Post Grunge genre. They got their melodies and dual guitar riffs on their first two cds from Kurt. Samething with early Breaking Benjamin.
@MegaBeartrap anything worth doing is worth doing meticulously?
Blame Budweiser?
I was really tired?
I have more excuses if you want to hear them... :P
Really, it kinda goes both ways. Some of the rants I do are really smooth and fluid, and others (like this one) tend to get caught in the grinder a bit at times. It's give and take. *shrug*
in my opinion, DJENT is now a genre... it's like "a new hard complicate metal" or maybe just like old school "Prog/Math/Expirimetal metal" but we can understand in the name of "DJENT"
btw, almost every DJENT bands wasted their music by having a singer in the band... but in future there may be a different
P.s. the first djent band I like is "Animal As Leaders" Tosin is the badass boss!
Just found your channel. Good stuff man. You should do a rant on Trance Metal. Stuff like The Rose Will Decay, The Browning, TimeCry, Armada In The Dusk, and Illidiance. I'll check out that band Pissing Razors. Keep me posted if you do a Trance or Industrial Metal video, and feel free to message me about and more bands you think I should listen to.
Good 'rant'. I was introduced to djent a few years back, after grabbing Misha's tracks on Soundclick.
I'm an old school metal guy and seriously dig Periphery and Tesseract. Totally agree w/ your comments on Meshuggah: good stuff, but the 'younger' bands are evolving the genre. We'll see what Meshuggah do on the forthcoming release.
In anyone's opinion... would the "djent" style be more "listenable" without the singers? I personally prefer to just rock the fuck out to the music (im a drummer)
@aaron2414 You can make up your own mind about that question, actually (and I don't mean that in a hostile way, read on...) because Periphery has 2 versions of their current album available: With and without vocals. Makes for an easy side-by-side comparison.
Plus, a lot of up-and-coming Djentlemen do/did some of their early work without vocals. ChimpSpanner (here on Youtube) comes to mind.
I really don't understand whether DJENT is actually a sub-genre or just a way to play guitar (guitar technique)...but I did enjoy your "rant", I'm digging new bands like Periphery, Tesseract etc. Even though im a Thrash dude my self and fuck yea Testament!!!! \m/
ionlypostgoodcomment 7 hours ago
Djent.......is not a genre. So....yeah. Quit with the boring elitist hipster b.s Your not an ''elite'', ALOT of people listen to bands that use the DJENT GUITAR TONE...so....yeah
twiztidlestat 2 weeks ago
@twiztidlestat Way to A) Take it personally, and B) assume so much from ONE word in the title (which you obviously misunderstood the implication of.)
It's entertainment. Get over it and yourself.
Djent is indeed a genre in that many of the bands who use said "guitar tone" have massive similarities in their music structure, style, and writing. What the fuck else IS a genre or sub-genre?
P.A. "a lot" is two words. There is no such word as "alot"
RantingRamsay 2 weeks ago
@RantingRamsay
Typical ''go to'' garbage of grammar bashing when you have little to back up your idea. It is a genre, TO YOU, but since YOU aren't the end all be all of metal, you can feel how you wish. No one is telling you not to. But, also, that doesn't make me incorrect either.
twiztidlestat 2 weeks ago
The way you pronounce "Vildhjarta" is pretty simple.
The J is Silent.
Just think Wildheart and add an A at the end then replace the W with a V ..........Vildhearta
Wildheart is the Swedish name of D&D.
JeremyGViking 3 weeks ago
@JeremyGViking Thank you very much! That is the first clear, concise answer to that particular question I have received in 348 comments. I appreciate it.
And, the little factoid about the Swedish name for D&D is pretty cool too. I shall have to use that at work tomorrow for "Ramsay's Rather Useless Fact of the Day". ("Useless" simply implying "at what point will my knowledge of this fact ever actually be needed?", not a negative connotation.)
RantingRamsay 3 weeks ago
Have you heard of Animals as Leaders? Tosin Abasi, guitar God.
slipknotmaggot4eva1 3 weeks ago
@slipknotmaggot4eva1 Absolutely. If you look at my channel page, and my list of musical influences/likes, you will find them there. :)
RantingRamsay 3 weeks ago
that stop nazi poster haha wtf!
magicmarker92 3 weeks ago
@magicmarker92 It's a Dead Kennedys - inspired banner, from their song "Nazi Punks Fuck Off", but also has some personal meaning as grandfathers on both sides of my family served in WWII. One of them did not make it back.
RantingRamsay 3 weeks ago
Check out Piotrek Gruszka album Cosmogenises. Best thing out their right now and he is not even signed.
NlNJAPRlME26 4 weeks ago
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NlNJAPRlME26 4 weeks ago
progressive fucking metal!!!
SpiritualHealing1349 4 weeks ago
If u like djent check out The contortionist
Loveisadyingtrend 1 month ago
I don't understand how no leads is awesome. It's a really annoying trend in metal imo. Also I am not a fan of super down-tuned guitars...at all. I also hate death growls.
I don't even care if you call me "not a real metalhead" because despite my love of metal, I don''t like to be known as a "metalhead"
DamageIncorperated86 1 month ago
if you hate metal because your a whinny little bitch
that made my night
visions6667 1 month ago
Too many of these new djent bands are nothing more than glorified deathcore bands with the exception of Tesseract and Periphery. Vildhjarta just sounds like a nonstop breakdown to me.
FinnMetal4Life 1 month ago
@FinnMetal4Life Oh, I don't know, I've been listening to Vildhjarta's new album "Masstaden" pretty constantly for the past couple weeks, and I hear a flow to it. Reminds me more of Meshuggah than any other djent project out there a the moment, in my opinion. Elitist has that sound as well.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
@RantingRamsay Periphery for the f**king win! \m/
iiBigfootii 1 month ago
Jent? i thought it was pronouced dijent. what the fuck
Dougiedogg23ws6 1 month ago
@Dougiedogg23ws6 It varies depending on regional vernacular. I've even heard it pronounced "zhent" or "xent". *shrugs* I've heard it most commonly pronounced as... well, shit, it's pretty hard to spell out in text a term that stems from onomatopoeia. "djent" really is the most accurate spelling, though I'm not sure where you're getting the "i" from. *shrugs again* like I said, regional vernacular, I guess.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
@RantingRamsay must be the vermont speak. haha
Dougiedogg23ws6 1 month ago
@Dougiedogg23ws6 Djembe, the african drum, is pronounced 'jembe'. Same with djent. Silent 'D'.
iiBigfootii 1 month ago
@Dougiedogg23ws6 haha, me too, till i looked it up. "dent" is actually an onomatopoeia for how the guitar chugging sounds. when misha mansoor chugs, it sounds like "djent, djent, dent, ..." so it's a word for how the music sounds. lol
MrMaxxTV 3 weeks ago
I kinda like ???? (four question marks) but I think this sound is a bit overdone. Am looking forward to the future songwriting in metal to include more elements of it, but more discrete...
alleygh0st 1 month ago
pissing razors are fokn amazing. fear factory also didnt have leads in it snd they to are brutal
mosj9876 1 month ago
I love the title. "Metal For Everyone, Djent For The Elite." So fucking true.
3Dmultimedia1 1 month ago
Meshuggah So Fukk Yo Couch Or Take An Arrow To The Knee .
xXZiM3o3Xx 1 month ago
@xXZiM3o3Xx Meshuggah, one of the forefathers of djent, for sure.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago 2
@xXZiM3o3Xx STOP JUST STOP that joke is fucking old and not even good
teufelmoder 1 month ago
I don't think clean vocals have any place in metal. I think they should go away and never come back. Its unfortunate that so much djent is laced with them.
gingerbox616 1 month ago
@gingerbox616 Your fucking retarded. Are you saying Pantera sucks?
3Dmultimedia1 1 month ago
@3Dmultimedia1 God fucking forbid I don't care for the music of the 'HOLY SHIT SO FKIN METAL THEYR SO GOOD \\\\,,,///' band Pantera. Metal in my opinion should be the most aggressive angry sound possible, and clean vocals just don't me riled up.
gingerbox616 1 month ago
@gingerbox616 I can agree with you on that. For me, Instrumental tech. music is easier to enjoy. I do enjoy TesseracT's vocals but, they are ambient metal which, I think, adds space for vocals.
jmdenogean 1 month ago
I tried listening to djent, but I really didn't think it was that good. Just my opinion.
guitarhero01234 1 month ago
@guitarhero01234 I've found that it takes a pretty deep understanding of music theory, multiple time signatures and poly-rhythms to really get into djent. For me it was a general boredom with what I felt was the cut-and-dry music assembly of the common market. I was looking for something a little more abstract yet still with intensity.
It's definitely not for everyone, that's for sure.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
@RantingRamsay
Actually, I am a guitarist myself, and I do understand all of these things. In fact, I put a lot of these elements in my music. The overall sound just didn't appeal to me.
guitarhero01234 1 month ago
@RantingRamsay do you listen to animals as leaders
Babyface6200 1 month ago
........ EVER FORTHRIGHT, amazing band with a touch of Jazz
aphexgouine 1 month ago
@Sharingan6277 I think they are a mix of 3 genres/sounds: Progressive Metal, Metalcore, and Djent. I haven't heard much from Protest the Hero, or White Chapel, but I have heard and do indeed like Between the Buried and Me, Veil of Maya, and After the Burial. Also, as "WebDevFTW" suggested, "Elitist". Awesome shit.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
Also check out Erra. They're technically progressive metalcore, but they're fucking sick. Elitist too.
WebDevFTW 1 month ago
@WebDevFTW SOOOO fucking crazy that you would mention "Elitist"... I JUST (about 10 minutes ago) paid for and downloaded their (bonus) EP "Earth" from the iTunes Store. Fucking Epic.
Now, kindly stop stalking me through my balcony window....
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
Djent is unfairly classified. I view the style of metal as progressive. Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Animals As Leaders, and Vildjharta are all prog as fuck!
MetalMikeCass 1 month ago
@MetalMikeCass I offer this thought for you to mull over:
Djent can be progressive. Progressive can be Djent. But not all Progressive is Djent, though MOST (not all) Djent is progressive.
As I (and a growing number of people) see it, Djent is progressive with an added element that is not present in all progressive metal/music. Yes, they both share off-time, multi-time signature composition, but that "Djent" sound which is shaping the genre isn't present in all prog. bands.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
Christian-Satanic-Djent-Black-Unblack Metal. THAT is the elite sub-genre.. Djent, PFFT
monkasiamusic 2 months ago
Djent crap sucks asshole
powermetal6669 2 months ago
@powermetal6669 I respectfully disagree. I find it to be one of the most intricate and technical styles of music out there today. However, due to it's overwhelming complexity it is lost on most listeners. It really is true that you need a deep, technical understanding of music, time signatures, and poly-rhythms to truly "get" djent, and even then there are no guarantees it will appeal to you.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
hey dude you should check out the band protest the hero they are siiick you may like them if you have not herd them also really digging your videos man :)
DILLIGAFACNS1987 2 months ago
I've heard it's pronounced vild-yarta. But i could be wrong.
midgitmanxx 2 months ago
@midgitmanxx However it is pronounced, their newest album "Masstaden" is fucking unbelievably badassed and totally brutal.
RantingRamsay 1 month ago
new djent is great and progressive, but boy do I disagree on it being superior to Meshuggah. They are just too awesome
thordurinn 2 months ago
@aappo94 1234 IdontBeliveYou Dr.
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RantingRamsay 2 months ago
wow so there is this new band who is just getting there start on here, "periphery!"
the first periphery album was pretty much ONLY materials from BULB, sooo technically... youre late as shit haha BULB has been doing his own thing since 2002-2003
ACDCwarmachine 2 months ago
@ACDCwarmachine I actually own the European import version of Periphery's first full-length album on CD. The only criticism I have for them is that I prefer the singer they had from the "Bulb and Periphery" demo CD they put out before releasing 1st CD which had Spencer as the lead singer. Their former singer in my opinion is far superior to Spencer.
Also, I never claimed to be on the cutting edge. I understand that djent isn't "new". But I stand by the idea it's "new" to the average listener.
RantingRamsay 2 months ago
ok this is the best video i have seen in a long time and I just wanted to let you know bulb is one person, misha mansoor, and he writes all the music for periphery!! he started that band to give his music the band feel, he plays guitar in it obviously, also check out veil of maya and born of osiris, not really djent but veryy good metal. and Ive had the opprutunity to see after the burial and periphery and animals as leaders live, and djent is even better in the live setting :)
OfficialTracesBand 2 months ago
@OfficialTracesBand Yes, I am well-aware of who Bulb is. As stated in another comment, I own the European import of Periphery's first full-length album, and have been tracking their progress ever since I heard the "Bulb and Periphery" demo CD cuts on various internet sights.
I also have After the Burial, Animals as Leaders, and Born of Osiris in my media player library.
ProTip: Check out TesseracT and Vildhjarta if you like the djent genre/sound
RantingRamsay 2 months ago
@aappo94 Sure thing, as soon as you send me a check for one. ;)
RantingRamsay 2 months ago
Oh my god, djent is a genre. It was just a guitar sound at first, but now you can hear something and say "oh, that's djent." It's recognizable and can be categorized , it is now a genre folks.
blackshadowbass 3 months ago
@blackshadowbass Thank you! I so wholeheartedly agree. It is the evolution of music; the evolution of a sound into a genre! Why do so few people get that?
RantingRamsay 3 months ago
@RantingRamsay Exactly! If I can say "I listen to djent" and you can think of some bands right away that fit the bill, it can be called a genre. It's easier than saying "bands like Periphery, After the Burial, Bulb, Animals As Leaders, etc." It has a distinct sound and many common features and last time I checked, that qualifies it as a subgenre.
blackshadowbass 3 months ago
@blackshadowbass (1 week later...) Have you also checked out these bands? TesseracT and Vildhjarta? Both of which should have full-length albums available for purchase! (I think Vildhjarta JUST released a full-length album sometime in late November. I haven't picked it up yet, as I am giving my wife a chance to buy it for me for Xmas *chuckle*, but from the teasers they (Vildhjarta) have posted of it here on YouTube, it's going to be absolutely face-melting!
RantingRamsay 2 months ago
@RantingRamsay I absolutely have! If you want to hear all of Vildhjarta's new album, there is a stream somewhere where you can hear the whole thing. I believe it is on the Guitar World website. From what I recall, it sounded amazing! I will have to listen again now, it's good stuff.
blackshadowbass 2 months ago
I really can't stand djent, myself. It gets too monotone.
I agree that "metal" is very broad. It's essentially an umbrella term today. Lots of variety!
SiGhast 3 months ago
I know i'm a little late to this video but what do you think of System of a Down? If anything you gotta admit that serj has an amazing vocal range
wetoji 3 months ago in playlist More videos from RantingRamsay
@wetoji Eh, they're not bad at all. I really enjoyed them when their first album came out (I was still in high school), but rather liked them a little bit less with each album they put out, to the point when Hypnotize and Mesmerize came out I pretty much washed my hands of them entirely.
RantingRamsay 3 months ago
pissing razors is so fucking old school, i would consider them like nu metal, hard rock, with repedative bone crushing bar chords riffs, kinda like machine head well early machine head , it has that early ny hardcore approach.
carnicerodeperros 3 months ago
@carnicerodeperros Heh, I guess they are kinda oldschool. I keep forgetting that I saw them twice on their original release tour... I don't want to think of myself as that old! Wah!
Don't forget, they were one of the first "non-progressive" metal bands to utilize off-time looping rhythms. Their first 3 albums are chock-full of odd-loops, and both 7/8 and 5/4 time signatures.
RantingRamsay 3 months ago
djent definitly is no genre. djent, invented by meshuggah and spread with periphery around the world, there are a few bands like tesseract that formed the idea of djent to be technichally virtuoso bands using equalizer, often just intrumental.
so what? djent is no genre. djent is a guitar-sound, a guitar-technique, and bands use it. there is "death-djent", deathcore with djent for example. djent is no genre it just means the sound even nu-metal could use the djent sound but stay nu-metal.
:)
derdudeldadelmetal 4 months ago
i call djent a genre. SMD. and that band is pronounces VILD JAR TA
joshmastablasta 4 months ago
You remind me of my friend's older brother, and I love it. Always looking for new musicin the Metal/Hard Rock/punk/etc genre. Will definitely check out some of these bands you listed.
As far as how it's progressing, I will also go ahead and say Thrash is making a pretty big comeback into the scene.
MasterSamurai 4 months ago
djent is not a genre, it's a guitar sound and music is for everyone, whether it's metal or djent
SuperAria18 4 months ago
@SuperAria18 Thanks for at least attempting to wrap your mind around the point of the video! Kudos.
RantingRamsay 4 months ago
Vildhjarta's name once put into Google Translate and with a umlaut over the first a is pronounced vid-yar-ta with the "r" slightly rolled.
rypetkypar 4 months ago
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rypetkypar 4 months ago
Have you heard of animals as leaders?
slightlydestructive 5 months ago
You make me want to smoke a butt.....think I might do that goodbye
bodhiskyy 6 months ago
its vildhjarta, pretty sure its pronounced just as it sounds with a silent h, vild-jarta
unsafesk8erm 7 months ago
My friend used to only like folk music then I showed him Eluveitie... He shat his pants.
09Jibz 7 months ago
@09Jibz MOST EXCELLENT usage of the past tense form of the verb "shit". Respect.
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
So True!! There is metal for EVERYONE!! But Djent is the best.
09Jibz 7 months ago
have you heard "parable of insanity" by IN EXILE cause it sounds pretty similar to meshugguh but more trible-india based- but the last minute of the song i literally came through my fucking desk!
xam154 7 months ago
testamemt= trash, black label society= metal pfm
shredh3d 7 months ago
@shredh3d I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that. Testament is an awesome PFM band. Not only were they one of the bands that pioneered (with Andy Sneap) the "turn of the century" metal sound with "The Gathering", a sound/mastering chain that was oft-repeated by many in the early 2000's.
Plus, their lyrics are quite unique. They speak about a lot of topics and ideas that most metal bands ignore.
I have respect for BLS, but Testament also has my respect.
Just my opinion.
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
those bands are cool but the thing for me is live play, meshuggah is sick live and alot of djent bands seem to just suck live. your only as good as you actually play.
MrSchecter6505 7 months ago
All great bands, I love the genre, for many years, I've never found a sound that I was like "THIS IS IT!" until I heard djent, it changed my life. And I agree with aaron, djent bands need some instrumentals just to go insane.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 7 months ago
Meshuggah and Sybreed were probably the forefathers of the Djent genre. :) Plus when it comes to pissing razors it's like Pantera and Fear Factory had an epic baby. Gawd I feel like I could sit for hour chatting about metal with you. xD
Theheavymetalscott 7 months ago
@Theheavymetalscott Only if you don't mind being cut-off and interrupted constantly. *chuckle* I have a really hard time not doing that in conversations about music. Heheh.
Yeah, P.R. got better and better with each album they put out, in my opinion. I was lucky enough to see them on the Cast Down the Plague album tour 3 times (each time in Columbus or Cinci.), the last show they were playing with both SkinLab and S.O.D. Awesome show and even got to hang on PR's bus for a while after the show.
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
@RantingRamsay Lucky man! I've not been too many live shows but out of the gigs I've been too I have to say seeing Ensiferum, Amon Amarth and Children of Bodom in one night was freaking epic carnage! COB played living on a prayer by Bon Jovi halfway through their set randomly? :D I met the Ensiferum lead guitarist too. But if there's one thing I love about Metal gigs is they're always dirt cheap and you'll never have more fun in your life!
Theheavymetalscott 7 months ago
@Theheavymetalscott (1 week later) Yeah, it was pretty lucky. I hung around the bus after the show hoping to get an autograph or two on a cd, and got into a conversation with the bass player. When I told him I could play just about every song from the first album from memory he was intrigued, and bet me I couldn't. So he brought me on the bus, plugged me into his practice rig and made me put-up or shut-up.
Well, I decided to take the album on in order and... (continued)
RantingRamsay 6 months ago
...and by the time I got through the first song I had the attention of everyone on the bus (including the whole band.) I only had to play through two more songs before he stopped me and said "Ok, I believe you, that's pretty fuckin' awesome" and then proceeded to feed me beer and joints for the next couple of hours.
Probably the most awesome memory I have to cherish, next to my wedding.
RantingRamsay 6 months ago
So sick of the word "djent"
barneycockburn 7 months ago
Note Djent is not new it is fairly old Mshugga is the inventor of the genra back in the 80
aec300 7 months ago
@aec300 ...yeah, I rather alluded to that fact by mentioning that Meshuggah pretty much created the djent sub-genre about 1/3 of the way through the video.
But yes, Contradictions Collapse started the poly-rhythm movement, and Destroy Erase Improve moved more towards djent, but it didn't really come into the form it embodies now until Mesh put out Chaosphere (using 7-string guitars.)
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
After the Burial
Krakakonundrum 7 months ago
If you mean Vildhjarta its "Veel-jar-tah" :)
dimeowns100 7 months ago
@dimeowns100 I think it's really funny how I've had about a half-dozen to ten or so different phonetic pronunciation keys for the name "Vildhjarta", and no two of them are the same.
But if you speak the native language of their country and are telling me it's "Veel-jar-tah" (which syllable has the stress, by the way?) then I believe you.
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
@RantingRamsay I say it like "Vill-JAr-ta" On really thinking about it.
dimeowns100 7 months ago
@RantingRamsay ....And I'm English and you're american so we'd probably pronounce it differently anyway haha!
dimeowns100 6 months ago
oops. one more thing.sorry.have you heard Exploited(punk)and what do you think about their style/ vocals-if you're interested in it? \(.y.)/
AcupTitties 7 months ago
@AcupTitties Never been a big fan of punk music in general, to be honest with you, so I'm not familiar with Exploited.
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
Relapse Records Catalog has some pretty damn cool bands, check it.
AcupTitties 7 months ago
i find it funny how djent originally drags people away from common genres and yet djent starts to sound extremely linear and similar to other djent artists. Doesn't that defy the entire point of looking for something different? I have a very distinct ear to subtle differences but i cant help but notice vast similarities in the way meshuggah/AAL/Periphery with the djent palming technique and it honestly already has me bored. Even now djent is a relatively new genre but i think others will agree
AlteredVisionz 7 months ago
@AlteredVisionz Well, I would consider that the sound/genre is still relatively young and that a lot of artists are still experimenting with the song-assembly.
Djent's aim isn't just being unique and not sounding like everyone else. Like all other genres and sub-genres, it has qualifications, but no rules. The key aspects are simply a low-register tuning and off-time poly rhythms. When you loop an off-time poly-rhythm enough times, the human ear adjusts and hears it as linear.
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
@RantingRamsay thanks for the history lesson lol. I do love my fair share of djent bands but i shake my head when i hear bands making it obvious that their sound is solely to be different and not really for a tasteful music aspect. Like you said, there are great aspects to the genre but i hope it continues to develop and broaden its spectrum a little bit. I think that trying to apply rules to music is silly so i would avoid that idea, but you are definitely right in your description of the genre
AlteredVisionz 7 months ago
Glad you did a video on djent. I agree that it really is starting to take metal by storm and will definitely be a big part of metal for a good amount of time. Btw if you like bands like Tesseract and Periphery, I just found this band Shattered Skies and they have an EP called 'Reanimation' and it sounds so fucking epic like movie soundtrack epic. If you have heard of them, my bad but I just wanted to get this band out there.
stoutmeister91 7 months ago
@stoutmeister91
Shattered Skies is amazing. They are a refreshing attribute to the "Djent Scene,"
rickcristo 7 months ago
@rickcristo Hell yea man, I nearly fell in tears it was so epic when I heard it the first time.
stoutmeister91 7 months ago
what would you consider lamb of god? i put them into that whole "pure metal" genre, but I'm curious as to what you think.
fangorious2 7 months ago
@fangorious2 They are groove metal like Pantera with death metal tinges. Some people call them metalcore but I don't buy it.
koryakapelinal333 7 months ago
@fangorious2 I think I would put them in with "Pure Metal" as well. Hell, for a while at one point in time (if they do not still...) they referred to themselves as "Pure American Metal".
However, it seems like there's a tendency for a lot of people out there to classify them as Metalcore. I don't agree. I really don't see it, but that seems to be a growing public perception. *shrugs*
RantingRamsay 7 months ago 2
Listen to Angel Vivaldi. He's here on youtube and on itunes.
Stonyman65 7 months ago
and now i rip off your balls good sir!
armysonacid 7 months ago
@armysonacid ...BUT I NEED THOSE!
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
vild= wild hjarta= yarta i think
armysonacid 7 months ago
@armysonacid
veeld - yar - tah
rickcristo 7 months ago
hey man are you on facebook inbox me your details
upwiththewolves 7 months ago
@upwiththewolves FACEBOOK IS EVIL!
(that would be a "no") *chuckle*
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
Dude, you're opinion is wrong....because that's a FACT that metal is the broadest genre of music ;) Hahahah, great video man!!
Mush0Art 7 months ago
djent sucks
inb4mad
Sphereal 7 months ago
Yeah fair play buddy. I enjoyed the rant though so keep it up. You a fan of Textures at all? although i wouldn't bury them within the djent genre they're still extremely good metal, technically profound and damn enjoyable.
k90001234 7 months ago
"Blows Meshuggah out the water in terms of technicality" this confuses me. Obzen is a great example of Meshuggah being gods of technical music, if you play an instrument this is imminently obvious.
k90001234 7 months ago 8
@k90001234 The entire statement was something along the lines blows them out of the water in terms of "technicality musicality, and listenability", but with how many people including yourself whom have made a similar comment it looks like I'm going to have to explain what I meant by that. Probably in a short video-response to myself. But the general gist is this: Yes, Meshuggah is EXTREMELY technical, but sometimes not the most musical or listenable band because of it. There's more to it though
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
Not sure if that was ranting but it was awkward :P. Anyways, THANK YOU for explaining why it's called Djent. I heard about this term like a week ago and have researching bands trying to figure out WHY it's called Djent. Some of the bands you mentioned I just label as Tech Metal. I think the only people that call Tech Metal Djent are just the elitists and the kids who look up to the elitists.
itsybitsyzombie 8 months ago
if it interst any one i just found a new band ( a french one )
Nephalokia!
MrSwac31 8 months ago
Closing statement: "So if you're hating on metal because you're just some little whiny bitch or something, I don't know, you need to give metal a chance because metal just reaches the whole spectrum, because there's metal for everyone and everyone needs some metal in their life" = so true. I love metal all around. From radio metalheads, to casual and hardcore metalheads, there is metal for everyone! No excuses!
CDP110 8 months ago
meshuggah is the most technical band on the face of this earth tho periphery is good and is one of my personal favorite bands they will never be as technical as meshuggah nor will any other math metal or djent band
guitarfan149 8 months ago
@guitarfan149 I don't know, man, Vildhjarta can really keep pace with Meshuggah when it comes to technicality and complexity. Their (Vild's) new stuff is AMAZING. (...1 month later...)
RantingRamsay 7 months ago
I disagree about those bands blowing meshuggah out of the water. Meshuggah's earlier stuff was amazing, and there newer stuff is fucking unreal!!! Nothing remake, obzen, and Catch 33? C mon dude, those bands you mentioned were great but dont even come close to blowing meshuggah out of the water.
boogaman777 8 months ago
i love mesuggha but the riffs are to repetitive, thats why i like the new wave of djent bands BUT i must say that i like the bands that use groove, not the ones playing technical djent all the time.
Earthshallperish 8 months ago
@Earthshallperish Check out some earlier Meshuggah, like from "Destroy, Erase, Improve", or "Contradictions Collapse" (most often sold as an extended disc with the "None" EP tacked on at the end.
It was much less repetitive than stuff from "Nothing" or "Catch Thirty-Three".
RantingRamsay 8 months ago
meshuggah is fucking supreme.
MetalBassist73 8 months ago
I'm back in metal mode, right now!
MeTaLLiCaT8282 8 months ago
ok eight strings are f or f sharp or lower...... 6 strings down to c. 7s are b to like a flat....... c and b arnt that low lol and doesnt necessarily mean you get the sound. it also has to do with the tone of amp or gear.... generally lower on the bass and treble and crank the mids..... 7 and eight string guitars always get the djent sound...... so the notes are from b to like an octave e.. thats the tunings you want to get that djent sound..... orrrrr the amps granted periphery goes to c also
Marshallfan567 9 months ago
@Marshallfan567 I appreciate the semantics clarification. However, I don't think the specifics negate any of the points I made. I think I made it clear I was speaking in a generalization when it comes to the tunings.
Admittedly, I'm not a guitarist, I'm a bass player. And though I like the djent style/genre, I prefer to play more "traditional" heavy metal styles, exemplified by bands like Fear Factory, S.Y.L, Testament, Pissing Razors, Skinlab, stuff like that. I'm no expert, just a fan.
RantingRamsay 9 months ago
@Marshallfan567 it depends MOST on the string gauge..
swisseragonplayer 8 months ago
if you like djent mate check out some ausie bands..... we tend to take djent influnces on bored. bands like my band sending artax (progressive extreme metal) check the song "dont forget the sistine" its proberly the most djent song we have but listen to the other stuff see what u like or dont like or the band shifting the paradigm awesome djent groove bassed metal band
SendingArtaxBand 9 months ago
The elite? How wonderful..I thought politicians were there to destroy peace, when did musicians or music become the source of divide?
deadtissue 9 months ago
@RantingRamsay dont get me wrong, there is a select few djent styled bands I enjoy, mostly just instrumental though, BUT most djent in my honest opinion is just over glorified metalcore with some progressive elements and influence.
Renkaru 9 months ago
@Renkaru I was just being a semantics dick and subtly pointing out that your usage of a double-negative (isn't not) meant the literal translation of your statement was "djent is a genre."
I think your final sentence, however, shows a slight misunderstanding of the genre.
Yes, djent started as a "sound" but is evolving into a genre. Yes, there are a lot of metalcore bands out there that use the djent sound, but there are also bands that have made the djent sound (continued)
RantingRamsay 9 months ago
...have made the djent sound (combined with poly-rythmic timing) the sole focus of their music. Meshuggah is a great example of a band that did this (much earlier than most other djenty bands, I'd like to point out). They started out with off-time riffs and low tunings, and evolved that music into the beginnings of the djent sound so copied today.
Another band is Vildjharta who uses the groundwork Meshuggah laid out. They are not metalcore in the slightest. And there are more and more (cont..)
RantingRamsay 9 months ago
more and more bands coming out that take the same approach to this new budding genre.
Yes, there are a lot of metalcore bands out there just using a djenty sound to get more listeners, but there are just as many technically-minded musicians out there who understand the groundwork laid out by bands like Meshuggah and Sikth and taking it to the next level.
THAT'S the djent genre. :)
RantingRamsay 9 months ago
djent isnt not a genre whatsoever
Renkaru 9 months ago
@Renkaru You're absolutely right, djent isn't not a genre. ;)
RantingRamsay 9 months ago 3
@Renkaru LEARN TO ENGRISH YOU DUMB POS
supniggaaaaaa 4 months ago
Jesus Christ, Monuments is the best "djent" band out there, and he didnt even mention Sikth as a for-father to Djent
MaxwellBergen 9 months ago
STOP SMOKING!, NOT NAZI!
LDDRCore 9 months ago 2
Thanks for telling us about this wonderful genre of metal
Sprawl1978 9 months ago
metal for everyone
heavy metal for the weaks
deathcore for the metrosexuals
djent for few
grindcore for smart ones
Death Technical for the ELITE.
ANTHMX 9 months ago
i LOVE all three of the bands you named, been listening to each of them for about a year now, djent metal is the only thing i listen to now, my playlist is just strictly djent and is almost up to 20 plus hours :) its completely changed my point of view on music and metal, every time i hear a song im thinking about how sick that song would be in djent form haha,
6Silence6Serenity6 9 months ago
d'ya mean "vildhijarta" bro ?
JulianThursday13 10 months ago
And i must add Seether is a Post Grunge genre. They got their melodies and dual guitar riffs on their first two cds from Kurt. Samething with early Breaking Benjamin.
treverdm12 10 months ago
Im a fan of Groove Metal and Hardcore
treverdm12 10 months ago
@RantingRamsay that was a pretty damn quick reply ill give u that :D
MegaBeartrap 10 months ago
@MegaBeartrap lol. just happen to have the day off and am killing time on the computer at the time of your comment. Heheheh.
RantingRamsay 10 months ago
po\lease slow down on the joints ive heard breakdowns faster than your rants :D
MegaBeartrap 10 months ago
@MegaBeartrap anything worth doing is worth doing meticulously?
Blame Budweiser?
I was really tired?
I have more excuses if you want to hear them... :P
Really, it kinda goes both ways. Some of the rants I do are really smooth and fluid, and others (like this one) tend to get caught in the grinder a bit at times. It's give and take. *shrug*
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EARAEZTE 10 months ago
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EARAEZTE 10 months ago
I like the title ="]
in my opinion, DJENT is now a genre... it's like "a new hard complicate metal" or maybe just like old school "Prog/Math/Expirimetal metal" but we can understand in the name of "DJENT"
btw, almost every DJENT bands wasted their music by having a singer in the band... but in future there may be a different
P.s. the first djent band I like is "Animal As Leaders" Tosin is the badass boss!
EARAEZTE 10 months ago
@EARAEZTE Nah, I don't think they're all wasting time with a singer. Vildhjarta and Meshuggah both have excellent vocals over their Djentyness
RantingRamsay 10 months ago
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EARAEZTE 10 months ago
@RantingRamsay yeah man... I agree. My favorite band is Animal as Leaders... yeah, really love their chill jazz DJENT stuffs
but, I like/respect those bands, too...
at first I said "Almost every bands", wasn't it?? ="]
Not all, man...
DJENT DJEN-DJENT!!! \M/
EARAEZTE 10 months ago
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EARAEZTE 10 months ago
Just found your channel. Good stuff man. You should do a rant on Trance Metal. Stuff like The Rose Will Decay, The Browning, TimeCry, Armada In The Dusk, and Illidiance. I'll check out that band Pissing Razors. Keep me posted if you do a Trance or Industrial Metal video, and feel free to message me about and more bands you think I should listen to.
HollowCoreStudio 10 months ago
Good 'rant'. I was introduced to djent a few years back, after grabbing Misha's tracks on Soundclick.
I'm an old school metal guy and seriously dig Periphery and Tesseract. Totally agree w/ your comments on Meshuggah: good stuff, but the 'younger' bands are evolving the genre. We'll see what Meshuggah do on the forthcoming release.
mccask13 10 months ago
In anyone's opinion... would the "djent" style be more "listenable" without the singers? I personally prefer to just rock the fuck out to the music (im a drummer)
Vildhjarta = Vild - chart -ah
aaron2414 10 months ago 14
@aaron2414 You can make up your own mind about that question, actually (and I don't mean that in a hostile way, read on...) because Periphery has 2 versions of their current album available: With and without vocals. Makes for an easy side-by-side comparison.
Plus, a lot of up-and-coming Djentlemen do/did some of their early work without vocals. ChimpSpanner (here on Youtube) comes to mind.
RantingRamsay 10 months ago