I am a Macedonian, I have a Macedonian's consciousness, and so I have my own Macedonian view of the past, present, and future of my country and of all the South Slavs; and so I should like them to consult us, the Macedonians, about all the questions concerning us and our neighbors, and not have everything end merely with agreements between Bulgaria and Serbia about us - but without us.
KRSTE PETKOV MISIRKOV....why you forgot this sentence???What is he...???ahahah
Само напред и само силно! Вие сте хероите на новото време! Виножито,ова е начин на борба за сопствениот натрод и сопствените права! Само поголема свест кај Македонците и храброст,можете! МОжеме! Ако издржиме,се обидуваме,се зајакнеме,ке успееме,напредокот по малку но се чувствува,во Албанија на пример... Ќе има и во соседните држави млади и рогресивни сили кои ќе знаат да внесат нов дух во сетоа ова! Со вас сме!
I have no idea why FYROM nationalists like yourself hide your ethnic BULGARIAN roots (rather than cherish them you shame your own ancestors by denying your own roots) However, now that you've angered Macedonians (i.e. Greeks) we will indeed "unite Macedonia"... just you Greek-hating Nazi assholes imagined it.
Ade na mhn tsakonoume tora-na dinete elevteria gia tous Makedones na maste mazi tora-oti egeine egeine, na pame prosta tora kai na voitame enas me ton alone, an den to kanoume tha mas throne oi muslimane kai da ginei kako kai gia mas kai gai sas.... Ta pramata den pane kala, tha exei kai polemos ola eina xalasmeno, ta zoa pethenoun, to aera ghnei vromiko, ta prasina pethenei, to nero einai ephkhndino, na kanoume mazh gia ta ekologika na mas perisevei kati kai gia ta paidia mas- h zoh eina kond
Ne o'Pavos ton theloume gie protipourgos, kai khvernhs gia thn Egaihkh Makedonia, kai gia thn Makedonia mazh me ton Nikola Gruevski kai me tous aloune, H Makedonia einai mono mia-kai prepei na ginei enomenh !!!!! Vardar, Pirin, Egej, Prespa-olloklirh Makedonia. Kai sthn Thessalia eina Makedones. Milane ellhnika ala apw aima eina Makedones. Thessalonika simvei ston parelton O' khvernhs gia thn Thessalia.... Elevtheria gia tous Makedones !
@1papain Yeah the bulgarian voskopoulos for president, together with their gay friends bulgarians macedonci too vallianatos tsarknias and others.LOL. I am from florina (lerin in bulgarian) and i know these gays, all of them are 3000 people in whole greece, take them in your shit country we are bored of these bulgars ciganis
πάντως υπάρχει ο αριθμός των Μαϊμουδομακεδόνων... τα εκλογικά αποτελέσματα του Ουράνιου Τόξου (4.530 χιλιάδες ψήφοι οι περισσότεροι που έχουν πάρει κι ΟΧΙ 7 χιλιάδες παρεμπιπτόντως) μπορεί να τα βρει κανείς εύκολα στη Wikipedia. Καλά με τόση καταπίεση δεν μπορούν να συσπειρωθούν όλες αυτές οι χιλιάδες των "μακεδόνων" και να δείξουν την αληθινή τους δύναμη? αχαχαχαχαχα
just to know,Vallianatos is a gay man and everyone laugh at him,his show is a ''trash'' show,in Greece we don't think u r bad people,u just misunderstood we don't hate scopia but we can t accept all these lies,Macedonia is Greece from the ancient times and will always be,that's the truth.
@LihnidRootz xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa!!!!I'm laughing because ''he'' keeps on saying in his interviews that he feels close to Scopian people!!!!xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa,bravo u have a gay ally!!!like all of u!!!That's why your women come for holidays in Greece,so they would be fuccked because u lie more vallianatos than youir women!xaxaxaxaxaxa!
@LihnidRootz i guess u and your mother have saw our dicks,u said it!xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa!!!
u r too small to talk for Greece!
prepare to be albanian now or bulgarian,and stop telling that u r Macedonian,because u r not and u ll never be,Macedonia is one and Greek,and if u think u r brave enough come to take it.
but u r just america's whores,they ll gonna sell u to albania and u ll be happy!,only bla-bla-bla,if u want do a war to us and we r gonna saw u why we r descedants of Greek heroes!
my mother is married to a real Makedon, why should she waste her time with your small-dick nation of losers? :)
it is Scientific research, where it is prooved that you have the smallest dicks in europe.
now, go kill yourself, idiotas ^^
that thing about war: what a sorry loser... without the british and us bombers, you would be our bitches today. your "heroes" were brave to fight against unarmed woman and children. you f´kn nazi fascist punk....
@LihnidRootz your mother is dreaming of a big Greek dick while she enjoys the sun,of Thessaloniki in her holidays.
say whatever u want,i m smiling at your comments..u r living a lie and that's bad for u..
i don t like war like all Greek people,but when someone claim our regions we know the way,and we die for liberty,i won't teach u history,cause u r just a crap with an ambition to become a bigger crap,so go in your toilet and live there.
The Greek language,history,cooking and way of life is
@LihnidRootz Everything began from here,we can' t compare with u,u r famous because of us!xaxaxaxaxa!
nobody knows your pathetic country(u don't even have a name for this shit!!)
when Albanians was killing u,u beg for some help of Greece,u sucked our big dicks to help u with em!
Even your economy depends from us,your Electricity company and your telephone company have been bought by Greeks many years ago!!!Now that albanians killing u again,we ll see how ur gonna open yourassholesagain!bye loser
Macedonians (i.e. Greeks) agree. And Paeonia for the former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of the former Yugoslavia.
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
Бидејќи гледам дека многу луѓе во Македонија, дури и по медиумите ја прават истата грешка би сакал да разјаснам нешто околу презимето на Павле Филипов Воскопулос.
Воскопулос нема никаква врска со Васко. Воскопулос значи Овчаров. Ако не грешам, еден од дедовците на Павле потекнувал од Леринското село Овчарани и затоа на прекар го викаа Овчарчето. Кога Грците ги грцизираа презимињата Овчарчето буквално го преведоа на грчки како Воскопулос. Инаку фамилијарното име им е Филипов.
You mean on the former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of the former Yugoslavia and their idiotic "anti-Macedonian propaganda".
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
The world already knows the truth about your ethnic Bulgarian heritage champ. Only propagandists in FYROM country delude themselves.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?:
Let us not allow the splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one common disease. If this disease had not been present in our ancestors, from whom we inherited it, they would have never fallen under the sceptre of the Turkish Sultan... "
(Gotse Delchev, IMRO leader, Letter to Nikola Malashevski, Jan. 5 1899)
"In the 1990s,Macedonians speak a language codified in 1946,spoken by less than two million people, and with a very slender literature. They are members of an Orthodox Church whose authority was established by a socialist political regime in 1968.They are heirs to a 1903 revolution that until the 1940s was described by almost all sources as being Bulgarian." - "The history of the Balkan Peninsula?", Ferdinand Schevill
"It should be remembered, to begin with, that there is no Macedonian race, as a distinct type. Macedonians may belong to any of the races of Eastern Europe or Western Asia, as, indeed, they do. A Macedonian Bulgar is just the same as a Bulgar of Bulgaria proper" - Arthur Douglas Howden Smith, Fighting the Turk in the Balkans: An American's Adventures with the Macedonian Revolutionists"
"And so the “Bulgarophone” villagers are no longer willing to admit they speak Bulgarian. They have coined a new term of their own accord, and henceforth, until they have got rid of it, is to be known as “Macedonian“. - Allen Upward, The East End of Europe, London 1908, pp 205
I hope it will not be held against me that I, as a Macedonian, place the interests of my country before all..
I am a Macedonian, I have a Macedonian's consciousness, and so I have my own Macedonian view of the past, present, and future of my country and of all the South Slavs; and so I should like them to consult us, the Macedonians, about all the questions concerning us and our neighbors, and not have everything end merely with agreements between Bulgaria and Serbia about us - but without us.
FYROM nationalists are mostly ethnic Bulgarian who lives in Paeonia who's shames his own ancestors by trying to steal someone elses heritage. Macedonians (i.e. Greeks) will "unite Macedonia" If you Greek-hating Nazis keep up your rhetoric against our country. Bulgarians, Albanians and Greeks will divide FYROM into pieces once we build up our numbers high enough to have a referendum on this issue.
Its sad that the former ethnic Bulgarians of FYROM (aka Paonia) prefer living in their lies and hatred of Greeks rather than cherishing their Bulgarian heritage.
Rather odd that FYROM nationalists claim to be experts on Greeks... yet haven't discovered their own ethnic BULGARIAN heritage???
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"- Krste Misikov
@GemistusPletho "And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CALLED Bulgarians?"- Krste Misikov
I will leave you to realize what that means(they have been called...they didn't called themselves)ahahha!!!
@GemistusPletho AND TO NOT FORGET THE REST OF KRSTE MISIRKOV,WHAT HE WAS:
"I am a MACEDONIAN,I have a MACEDONIAN'S consciousness,and so I have my own MACEDONIAN view of the past, present, and future of my country and of all the South Slavs; and so I should like them to consult US, the MACEDONIANS, about all the questions concerning us and our neighbors, and not have everything end merely with agreements between Bulgaria and Serbia about us - but without us …
It is nationalist extremists like you that are forgetting what else Misirkov said. He is full of contradictions about his own identity should be but always said his roots were ethnic BULGARIAN.
"Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians"
"Who is against a greater Bulgaria is against Slavism"
“The only Macedonian Slavs who played a leading part in the uprising were those who called themselves Bulgarians.”
“We did indeed call ourselves “Bulgarians” and “Christians” in the national sense”
“The first objection — that a Macedonian Slav nationality has never existed — may be very simply answered as follows: what has not existed in the past may still be brought into existence later, provided that the appropriate historical circumstances arise.”
Risto lies and distorts our history just as much as he hides his own ethnic Bulgarian heritage. We speak THE Greek not a Bulgarian dialect renamed "Macedonian" by communists.Our modern language still uses the same alphabet as the Koine Greek spread/spoken by ancient Macedonian. THOUSANDS of words are still spelled the same. Fake Macedonians are anti-Hellenic. Real Macedonians want to be able to read the words of their ancestors.... all written in Greek.
Sorry language didn't even exist during ancient Macedonians. FYROM's Bulgarian dialect language (that uses a Cyrillic not Greek alphabet) is not an iota closer to the Koine Greek spoken/spread by ancient Macedonians.... then Polish, Serbian, Russian or BULGARIAN.
If FYROM nationalists cared an iota about preserving Macedonian culture/language...they would want to speak the language found on countless ancient Macedonian artifacts......... GREEK.
As usually you distort the facts. While true Greeks adopted the phonetician alphaet around 800 BC our language is far different (much like English uses a Latin alphabet but is hardly latin) The Koine Greek dialect was spoken/spread by ancient Macedonians! Koine Greek still shares THOUSANDS of words in common. Why is you ethnic Bulgarians don't want to know to read the words of your own ancestors?
Whether they say it or not its true. This issue could be easily resolved if FYROM nationalists simply went back to calling themselves Bulgarians (cherishing its Bulgarian heritage rather than trying to steal Greek identity)
'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.'
(former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book 'Facing the truth')
@GemistusPletho I am not Ljubco Georgievski (traitor of Macedonia).
You cant change the fact that 135+ countries recognized Republic of Macedonia. The fact that your region "Macedonia" is greek nearly 100 years ( 1913 ). You cant lie me, that there are Macedonians in Greece who want rights as everyone else. Just watch Pavle Voskopulos.
In greek schools, students learning false brainwashing history.
- They learn that Macedonia belong only to Greece.
- They Learn about “glorious greek history” and “Pure hellenic race” (Just like Hitler`s idea about germans glorious history and german pure race. And we all know whats happened)
- They learn about famous hellenic democracy but they don`t have even “D” of democracy in today`s Greece for macedonians, albanians, turks, bulgarians and others minority there.
We don't hate Macedonians. We love Macedonians. What we have a problem with is the former self-identifying ethnci Bulgarains of FYROM trying to usurp the identity of Macedonians.
We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
ne mozam uste da poveruvam deka i vo Grcija ima dobri/profesionalni novinari,bez politicki opredelbi(ili nacionalni,barem taka izgleda)...
A dokolku za g-din Pavle: "Pavle,da ni zivees uste 100 godiniiiii"...! :-)))
milefrenki 5 months ago
We have to solv our problems. Two peoples living next to each other. Enough hate.
bojan34 6 months ago
Браво!
godotubeyou 6 months ago
Нормална емисија со културни Грци за првпат, а г-дин Павле секоја чест
naivnna 7 months ago
NAPRED!!!!
JohnDavidRockefell 8 months ago
I am a Macedonian, I have a Macedonian's consciousness, and so I have my own Macedonian view of the past, present, and future of my country and of all the South Slavs; and so I should like them to consult us, the Macedonians, about all the questions concerning us and our neighbors, and not have everything end merely with agreements between Bulgaria and Serbia about us - but without us.
KRSTE PETKOV MISIRKOV....why you forgot this sentence???What is he...???ahahah
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
The Macedonians are necessary to Macedonia; it is only with the Macedonians that Macedonia can belong to the Macedonians, never without them.
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
Само напред и само силно! Вие сте хероите на новото време! Виножито,ова е начин на борба за сопствениот натрод и сопствените права! Само поголема свест кај Македонците и храброст,можете! МОжеме! Ако издржиме,се обидуваме,се зајакнеме,ке успееме,напредокот по малку но се чувствува,во Албанија на пример... Ќе има и во соседните држави млади и рогресивни сили кои ќе знаат да внесат нов дух во сетоа ова! Со вас сме!
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momcemk 10 months ago
UNITED MACEDONIA...without negroidos!
CAKIMacedonian 10 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
I have no idea why FYROM nationalists like yourself hide your ethnic BULGARIAN roots (rather than cherish them you shame your own ancestors by denying your own roots) However, now that you've angered Macedonians (i.e. Greeks) we will indeed "unite Macedonia"... just you Greek-hating Nazi assholes imagined it.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
Ta ellinika ths boskopoulas einai gia ton poutso. 100 syntaktika lathi se mia protasi. Isws tha eprepe na ta poune sta kaliandra
kolobaras 10 months ago
г-дин Воскопулос Македонците и Македонија е со вас
888bubo 10 months ago
Ade na mhn tsakonoume tora-na dinete elevteria gia tous Makedones na maste mazi tora-oti egeine egeine, na pame prosta tora kai na voitame enas me ton alone, an den to kanoume tha mas throne oi muslimane kai da ginei kako kai gia mas kai gai sas.... Ta pramata den pane kala, tha exei kai polemos ola eina xalasmeno, ta zoa pethenoun, to aera ghnei vromiko, ta prasina pethenei, to nero einai ephkhndino, na kanoume mazh gia ta ekologika na mas perisevei kati kai gia ta paidia mas- h zoh eina kond
1papain 10 months ago
Ne o'Pavos ton theloume gie protipourgos, kai khvernhs gia thn Egaihkh Makedonia, kai gia thn Makedonia mazh me ton Nikola Gruevski kai me tous aloune, H Makedonia einai mono mia-kai prepei na ginei enomenh !!!!! Vardar, Pirin, Egej, Prespa-olloklirh Makedonia. Kai sthn Thessalia eina Makedones. Milane ellhnika ala apw aima eina Makedones. Thessalonika simvei ston parelton O' khvernhs gia thn Thessalia.... Elevtheria gia tous Makedones !
1papain 10 months ago
@1papain Yeah the bulgarian voskopoulos for president, together with their gay friends bulgarians macedonci too vallianatos tsarknias and others.LOL. I am from florina (lerin in bulgarian) and i know these gays, all of them are 3000 people in whole greece, take them in your shit country we are bored of these bulgars ciganis
passariskwstas 10 months ago
Ο σχολιαστής μεσημεριανάδικων ανακάλυψε και το "Μακεδονικό"... lol
Που είναι "η άλλη άποψη"?
Αυτά που λέει ο Βοσκοπουλόφσκι να πάει να τα πει στα 2,5 εκατομμύρια των Μακεδόνων.
kostas67reth 11 months ago
@kostas67reth 1:11:02
ellamou 11 months ago
@ellamou
πάντως υπάρχει ο αριθμός των Μαϊμουδομακεδόνων... τα εκλογικά αποτελέσματα του Ουράνιου Τόξου (4.530 χιλιάδες ψήφοι οι περισσότεροι που έχουν πάρει κι ΟΧΙ 7 χιλιάδες παρεμπιπτόντως) μπορεί να τα βρει κανείς εύκολα στη Wikipedia. Καλά με τόση καταπίεση δεν μπορούν να συσπειρωθούν όλες αυτές οι χιλιάδες των "μακεδόνων" και να δείξουν την αληθινή τους δύναμη? αχαχαχαχαχα
kostas67reth 11 months ago
Македонците да си го духат.
pastet2x2 11 months ago
@pastet2x2 што е бе бугаре што те мачи ?!?!
ProudMacedonianBlood 11 months ago
@ProudMacedonianBlood
нищо ,просто за кеф го казах.
pastet2x2 11 months ago
@pastet2x2 Од мака да не е ?
ProudMacedonianBlood 11 months ago
@ProudMacedonianBlood
Не разбирам,защо ми се правиш сега ?!
pastet2x2 11 months ago
@pastet2x2 Што збориш ?
ProudMacedonianBlood 11 months ago
@ProudMacedonianBlood
Ти защо спориш бре муньо ?
pastet2x2 11 months ago
@pastet2x2 Ништо имам желба да заебавам бугарски хорди.
ProudMacedonianBlood 11 months ago
@ProudMacedonianBlood
Аз па вчера наебах една македонка(българка).Просто ми беше кеф да я натискам а тя да ми говори на цигански.
pastet2x2 11 months ago
@pastet2x2 Sekoe leto mnogu ljubam da veslam na vasheto Cherno more...
ProudMacedonianBlood 10 months ago
@ProudMacedonianBlood
:D
pastet2x2 10 months ago
just to know,Vallianatos is a gay man and everyone laugh at him,his show is a ''trash'' show,in Greece we don't think u r bad people,u just misunderstood we don't hate scopia but we can t accept all these lies,Macedonia is Greece from the ancient times and will always be,that's the truth.
1thessalywolf1 11 months ago
@1thessalywolf1
ofcourse he is gay
he is greek :)
LihnidRootz 11 months ago
@LihnidRootz xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa!!!!I'm laughing because ''he'' keeps on saying in his interviews that he feels close to Scopian people!!!!xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa,bravo u have a gay ally!!!like all of u!!!That's why your women come for holidays in Greece,so they would be fuccked because u lie more vallianatos than youir women!xaxaxaxaxaxa!
1thessalywolf1 11 months ago
@1thessalywolf1
you are "greek", so it is normal for you to lie.
why you lie the world and yourself? why should our woman come to "greece"?
you, modern greeks, have the smallest penises, scientificaly prooved...
so, beside small brains, you also have small dicks, that is why you are so frustrated :)
go get some brain and education, idiotas...
LihnidRootz 11 months ago
@LihnidRootz i guess u and your mother have saw our dicks,u said it!xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa!!!
u r too small to talk for Greece!
prepare to be albanian now or bulgarian,and stop telling that u r Macedonian,because u r not and u ll never be,Macedonia is one and Greek,and if u think u r brave enough come to take it.
but u r just america's whores,they ll gonna sell u to albania and u ll be happy!,only bla-bla-bla,if u want do a war to us and we r gonna saw u why we r descedants of Greek heroes!
1thessalywolf1 10 months ago
@1thessalywolf1
my mother is married to a real Makedon, why should she waste her time with your small-dick nation of losers? :)
it is Scientific research, where it is prooved that you have the smallest dicks in europe.
now, go kill yourself, idiotas ^^
that thing about war: what a sorry loser... without the british and us bombers, you would be our bitches today. your "heroes" were brave to fight against unarmed woman and children. you f´kn nazi fascist punk....
you are the joke or europe
LihnidRootz 10 months ago
@LihnidRootz your mother is dreaming of a big Greek dick while she enjoys the sun,of Thessaloniki in her holidays.
say whatever u want,i m smiling at your comments..u r living a lie and that's bad for u..
i don t like war like all Greek people,but when someone claim our regions we know the way,and we die for liberty,i won't teach u history,cause u r just a crap with an ambition to become a bigger crap,so go in your toilet and live there.
The Greek language,history,cooking and way of life is
1thessalywolf1 10 months ago
@LihnidRootz a study in Europe and all the world,and no matter how many bullshits u write or tell we r history makers of the world,every time.
You r wishing to be Greeks(Macedonians)but we can t accept your monkey faces!
as i told u,prepare to be Bulgarian or Albanian someday cause u r nothing.
1thessalywolf1 10 months ago
@1thessalywolf1
that is another proove how small-dicked you are.
you are history-makers of the world?
lol
get some brains, you pathetic fascist gayreek...
LihnidRootz 10 months ago
@LihnidRootz Everything began from here,we can' t compare with u,u r famous because of us!xaxaxaxaxa!
nobody knows your pathetic country(u don't even have a name for this shit!!)
when Albanians was killing u,u beg for some help of Greece,u sucked our big dicks to help u with em!
Even your economy depends from us,your Electricity company and your telephone company have been bought by Greeks many years ago!!!Now that albanians killing u again,we ll see how ur gonna open yourassholesagain!bye loser
1thessalywolf1 10 months ago
@1thessalywolf1 get it gypsy king???xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa!!!!
1thessalywolf1 10 months ago
Scopia is half Bulgaria,half Albania,Macedonia is Greece asssholes!!!
1thessalywolf1 11 months ago
Грчките историчари ја знаат Вистината , се другото е политика за народот !
Честитки до г-дин Васкопулос и сите Македонци кои помагаат!!!
alisaofmacedon 11 months ago
MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MacedoniaSISKO 11 months ago 10
@MacedoniaSISKO
is there even something like macedonian today ?
pastet2x2 11 months ago
@MacedoniaSISKO
Macedonians (i.e. Greeks) agree. And Paeonia for the former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of the former Yugoslavia.
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
Televizijasonce. ..can we have English subtitle for this interview as well?thanks
rosdimak 11 months ago
Pavle Vaskopulos - za premier na Republika Makedonija ! ili
za gradonacalnik na Lerin
zoranangelov1 11 months ago 13
Ах, што сè не трпат Македонците од Егејот...
СРАМОТА ЗА ГРЦИЈА! SHAME ON GREECE!!
MakedonecMacedonian 11 months ago 3
Pavle FilipoY Vosko-pule
Павле Филипов Воскопуле
pule - sin od Vasko... ili na Makedonski, pileto na Vasko
a Vasko = Vasil, BAZIL :)
Basile FilipoY PaVLe
LihnidRootz 11 months ago
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duneci 11 months ago
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@LihnidRootz
Бидејќи гледам дека многу луѓе во Македонија, дури и по медиумите ја прават истата грешка би сакал да разјаснам нешто околу презимето на Павле Филипов Воскопулос.
Воскопулос нема никаква врска со Васко. Воскопулос значи Овчаров. Ако не грешам, еден од дедовците на Павле потекнувал од Леринското село Овчарани и затоа на прекар го викаа Овчарчето. Кога Грците ги грцизираа презимињата Овчарчето буквално го преведоа на грчки како Воскопулос. Инаку фамилијарното име им е Филипов.
duneci 11 months ago
Shame on Greece..and on their idiotic paranoic anti-macedonian propaganda!
Gago81MKD 11 months ago 4
@Gago81MKD
You mean on the former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of the former Yugoslavia and their idiotic "anti-Macedonian propaganda".
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho Hey NEGROIDOS,wasn't you were Danaans,the people who came here from Africa?
Or you forgot that???
Or maybe you forgot,that most of you are orthodox albanians,as your present president Papullja???
Or most of you are converted turks,with the prefix on your second names KARA(os)MANLI,KARA-DZAFERI...!
You can not hide the truth,because Macedonians will always be here to telling it to the world!
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
The world already knows the truth about your ethnic Bulgarian heritage champ. Only propagandists in FYROM country delude themselves.
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?:
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
Let us not allow the splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one common disease. If this disease had not been present in our ancestors, from whom we inherited it, they would have never fallen under the sceptre of the Turkish Sultan... "
(Gotse Delchev, IMRO leader, Letter to Nikola Malashevski, Jan. 5 1899)
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
"In the 1990s,Macedonians speak a language codified in 1946,spoken by less than two million people, and with a very slender literature. They are members of an Orthodox Church whose authority was established by a socialist political regime in 1968.They are heirs to a 1903 revolution that until the 1940s was described by almost all sources as being Bulgarian." - "The history of the Balkan Peninsula?", Ferdinand Schevill
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
"It should be remembered, to begin with, that there is no Macedonian race, as a distinct type. Macedonians may belong to any of the races of Eastern Europe or Western Asia, as, indeed, they do. A Macedonian Bulgar is just the same as a Bulgar of Bulgaria proper" - Arthur Douglas Howden Smith, Fighting the Turk in the Balkans: An American's Adventures with the Macedonian Revolutionists"
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
"And so the “Bulgarophone” villagers are no longer willing to admit they speak Bulgarian. They have coined a new term of their own accord, and henceforth, until they have got rid of it, is to be known as “Macedonian“. - Allen Upward, The East End of Europe, London 1908, pp 205
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
I hope it will not be held against me that I, as a Macedonian, place the interests of my country before all..
I am a Macedonian, I have a Macedonian's consciousness, and so I have my own Macedonian view of the past, present, and future of my country and of all the South Slavs; and so I should like them to consult us, the Macedonians, about all the questions concerning us and our neighbors, and not have everything end merely with agreements between Bulgaria and Serbia about us - but without us.
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
FYROM nationalists are mostly ethnic Bulgarian who lives in Paeonia who's shames his own ancestors by trying to steal someone elses heritage. Macedonians (i.e. Greeks) will "unite Macedonia" If you Greek-hating Nazis keep up your rhetoric against our country. Bulgarians, Albanians and Greeks will divide FYROM into pieces once we build up our numbers high enough to have a referendum on this issue.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
Its sad that the former ethnic Bulgarians of FYROM (aka Paonia) prefer living in their lies and hatred of Greeks rather than cherishing their Bulgarian heritage.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho It's sad for you converted albanians,to hide your albanian ancestry.
But your names and language saying everything,but you are not guilty but the Bavarians who converted you!
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
For the Nazi who doesn't know the difference between Greek language/culture and his Bulgarian one.
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Greek_scholars_in_the_Renaissance
Rather odd that FYROM nationalists claim to be experts on Greeks... yet haven't discovered their own ethnic BULGARIAN heritage???
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"- Krste Misikov
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho "And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CALLED Bulgarians?"- Krste Misikov
I will leave you to realize what that means(they have been called...they didn't called themselves)ahahha!!!
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho AND TO NOT FORGET THE REST OF KRSTE MISIRKOV,WHAT HE WAS:
"I am a MACEDONIAN,I have a MACEDONIAN'S consciousness,and so I have my own MACEDONIAN view of the past, present, and future of my country and of all the South Slavs; and so I should like them to consult US, the MACEDONIANS, about all the questions concerning us and our neighbors, and not have everything end merely with agreements between Bulgaria and Serbia about us - but without us …
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
It is nationalist extremists like you that are forgetting what else Misirkov said. He is full of contradictions about his own identity should be but always said his roots were ethnic BULGARIAN.
"Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians"
"Who is against a greater Bulgaria is against Slavism"
“The only Macedonian Slavs who played a leading part in the uprising were those who called themselves Bulgarians.”
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
More for Misirkov.
“We did indeed call ourselves “Bulgarians” and “Christians” in the national sense”
“The first objection — that a Macedonian Slav nationality has never existed — may be very simply answered as follows: what has not existed in the past may still be brought into existence later, provided that the appropriate historical circumstances arise.”
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho I think that Misirkov has been very clear who he was!
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
Risto lies and distorts our history just as much as he hides his own ethnic Bulgarian heritage. We speak THE Greek not a Bulgarian dialect renamed "Macedonian" by communists.Our modern language still uses the same alphabet as the Koine Greek spread/spoken by ancient Macedonian. THOUSANDS of words are still spelled the same. Fake Macedonians are anti-Hellenic. Real Macedonians want to be able to read the words of their ancestors.... all written in Greek.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho Let we see some modern Macedonian words with ancient roots:
KOSMOS,ATT,KRATER,ISTORIA,DOMA.....hmmm...ANCIENT=MODERN MACEDONIAN WORDS AND LETTERS!
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
Sorry language didn't even exist during ancient Macedonians. FYROM's Bulgarian dialect language (that uses a Cyrillic not Greek alphabet) is not an iota closer to the Koine Greek spoken/spread by ancient Macedonians.... then Polish, Serbian, Russian or BULGARIAN.
If FYROM nationalists cared an iota about preserving Macedonian culture/language...they would want to speak the language found on countless ancient Macedonian artifacts......... GREEK.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
Further reading for the FYROM nationalist (aka ethnic Bulgarian ashamed of his own heritage).
secure(dot)wikimedia(dot)org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Koine_Greek
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho You are trying to say that Macedonians spoke Phoenician language???The language what you are showing as yours?
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
As usually you distort the facts. While true Greeks adopted the phonetician alphaet around 800 BC our language is far different (much like English uses a Latin alphabet but is hardly latin) The Koine Greek dialect was spoken/spread by ancient Macedonians! Koine Greek still shares THOUSANDS of words in common. Why is you ethnic Bulgarians don't want to know to read the words of your own ancestors?
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho So,which language was your native???I mean on which language you spoke before you steal the Phoeinician!??
CAKIMacedonian 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho No one in Macedonia will say that he is Bulgarian or Greek, because hes not !
PLEASE STOP !
Manchevo 2 months ago
@Manchevo
Whether they say it or not its true. This issue could be easily resolved if FYROM nationalists simply went back to calling themselves Bulgarians (cherishing its Bulgarian heritage rather than trying to steal Greek identity)
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@Manchevo
'Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate in Macedonia.'
(former Prime Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book 'Facing the truth')
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho I am not Ljubco Georgievski (traitor of Macedonia).
You cant change the fact that 135+ countries recognized Republic of Macedonia. The fact that your region "Macedonia" is greek nearly 100 years ( 1913 ). You cant lie me, that there are Macedonians in Greece who want rights as everyone else. Just watch Pavle Voskopulos.
Manchevo 2 months ago
In greek schools, students learning false brainwashing history.
- They learn that Macedonia belong only to Greece.
- They Learn about “glorious greek history” and “Pure hellenic race” (Just like Hitler`s idea about germans glorious history and german pure race. And we all know whats happened)
- They learn about famous hellenic democracy but they don`t have even “D” of democracy in today`s Greece for macedonians, albanians, turks, bulgarians and others minority there.
Manchevo 2 months ago
@GemistusPletho I have been in Greece hundred of times.
I don`t hate greeks even some of them clearly hate us macedonians.
I have many greek friends in Salonica University who are ashamed of their government natioanlistic propaganda…
At the end, I can understand them but I can`t help them.
Whatever they said, I am macedonian forever.
I pray for the truth (2013)
Peace
Manchevo 2 months ago
@Manchevo
We don't hate Macedonians. We love Macedonians. What we have a problem with is the former self-identifying ethnci Bulgarains of FYROM trying to usurp the identity of Macedonians.
We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper, February 24 1999
GemistusPletho 2 months ago
@CAKIMacedonian
You real history told by real historians.(rather than ethnic Bulgarian propagandists ashamed of their heritage)
americanchronicle(dot)com/articles/view/234351
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
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Gago81MKD 11 months ago