@jaunisaboss thats the only thing a supercharger has on a turbo, well that and less parts. however, turbo are more efficient, save u fuel, more powerful and definetley more bang for your buck. and why was taht SRT so slow? must have been mods on the SS
@jaunisaboss thats the only thing a supercharger has on a turbo, well that and less parts. however, turbo are more efficient, save u fuel, more powerful and definetley more bang for your buck. Besides, my stock turbo pushes 22PSI and takes like a sec to get there, depending on RPMs... and why was taht SRT so slow? must have been mods on the SS
@allturbo16 lol no its the mindless idiots who say "hey i see so many i should buy one and be just like every1 else" the ss turbo and ss sc beat every import in their price range
@MiamiZ28 I'm surprised the SC SS did as well as it did. That blower puts out nothing but hot air, and the water to air intercooling could easily heat soak.
yo o my god thats me in the shitty fucking cobalt lol they fucking suck lol i cant beleive i found this vid lol omg i live in nc now and have a srt-4 lol that would beat the cobalt the other srt and that civic lol wow lol fun times in that shitty slowbolt it blew up by the way some shitty tuner fucked up my car anyways f cobalts lol they are junk lol even the turbo ones lol shitty shitty cars alot blow up lol
wow THESE GUYS ARE RETARDED i have both srt-4 and cobalt ss/sc dude both cars arnt ment to hold high mph for long thats how my friend went through 2 engines on his srt4 140-160 is bad news for most of these cars over 50 for a honda and its gunna blow ahahah =P
well Honda engines are still good. They get pretty good power on lower boost. My K20 can take 9psi and get about 400whp with the right turbo and tuning but with my Greddy kit I could probably get 300whp on 9psi
why do you think there are so amny turbo hondas around on low boost?? they cant handle high boost, a turbo cobalt will ALWAYS make more power with the same mods
yup, your just proving my point, thats why alot of people chose to go with non-v-tec honda engines, lower compression ratios... "stupid"? how old are you lol?
Actually he is right. They all run low boost because they are naturally high compression engines. What happens when you run high boost in a high compression engine without proper fuel? It ignites prematurely (detonation) and pushes against the piston, losing you power and fucking up your engine. That's why people switch out pistons for low compression ones. As far as redline is concerned, what is the point of running to 8500 if your turbo is out of it's map by 6500??
8 psi doesn't pull that hard. I have a turboed civic and mine doesn't pull that hard with 8 psi. Wish it did though. I can still beat the supercharged cobalt... not the turbo one.
Your car is plastic inside and out.Its uncomfortable and most people consider looking at any civic old or new rather than the cobalt just because they have better styling are more comfortable and just plain more fun to have.
The motor in the cobalt is made by Saab. get your facts straight. If you crawl underneath one you'll see it says saab on the cross bar, and on the S/C cobalt on the back of the spark plug/coil pack cover it also is engraved SAAB. I've walked G35's and many many many many many many Si's and 350z's. Bottom line under 300hp you're not gonna beat a SS with a good driver, And even if you're over 300hp you might still get walked. 2007 SS/SC
I have driven the s/c and the turbo,i've beaten them both with a new si stock.did it plenty of times just to prove it to my friend which we stayed up all night just racing each other but i do think the turbo is way better out of the two models.but it also depends on the driver cause i raced a turbo ss and he kept up a lil'better.but i don't discriminate on toher cars i like all,just like Honda i dont know.
I dont know man, i'd have to see it to believe it....i hate honda's...that's all everyone would talk about b4 i graduated from High school, honda this, honda that...i've grown a passion of hate for honda's
you must be on crack. maybe you beat a s/c one but the new ss/tc is a different car. thats like saying you beat a stock srt-4 or a mazdaspeed3 with a stock si! That'll never happen. those cars can miss every gear and still walk a si. i know because my girl owns an si and i know how slow they are!
Sure...I test drove just about every car that had just came out from 2009 and down almost every day.Like i just ship the cars.,All my friends have srt-4's cobalt t/c's and yet can't believe they get taken buy the n/a k20a.The cobalt Eco tec engine is an Opel,why is it that the Opel turbo,(same shit as cobalt t/c) gets murdered and was out sold in Europe by the N/A k20a equipped civic type r EP3.I'll take a stock srt4 cobalt T/C with a stock RSX type s or SI,any day.Better looking too.
More BS. God man, do you losers ever stop lying? And that opel engine is way quicker, way better and it's a closed loop turbo. The SI is slow as dogshit and I would know because I considered nuying one until I test drove it. I promptly lost a Jetta VR-6. Embarassing much? No thanks. Stick that SI on the Nurburgring and see how it does!
"CLAP-CLAP"Nigga that mouth of yours is bs...I've driven the new ss t/c you can't tell me shit about how it drives a couple of my friends have them.You'll get walked by single cams.got a crx ready with itb's that will whoop that ass.
"CLAP-CLAP" Nigga? Lol, everything else you typed now means dick. Clearly your IQ is on par with your average street thug, wannabe gangster. Stop acting black, pull your pants up and act like the white 'n nerdy video game addict you are. Don't compare your CRX to my SS because you just sound fucking ignorant. I took mechanics and I read non-stop on the auto industry. All the opinions that matter favor my car anyways. So enjoy your $900 CRX. How much horse does your trailer home make?
Your ignorant ass fuck if you think i'm white...LMAO...I don't play video games,My IQ is higher than yours and still grew up in a place were you would be found crouched down rocking back and forth because you would be thinking it was Hell.You seem a lot like that fake ass cyber thug.Regardless if you took mechanics doesn't mean you know cars.Any body can do that.Its ok you can lie and say you're one too.and no opinion that matters favor your car.
I'm ignorant ass fuck? Did you mean "Ignorant as fuck"? Wow, for a guy with such a sparkling IQ you sure have some serious issues with basic typing skills. Number two, last I checked you started off your first comment with *clap* *clap Nigga* pure cyber thug. Number three, every opinion that matters favors my car, from Motortrend to Heinrichy who was responsible for setting the Nurburghring world record for FWD with the SS T/C. So what's your next comment IQ champ?
WOW one letter...Clap Clap nigga! you know when two hands meet..Wow you are smart.Your car still sucks cause new civics out sell your car buy thousands.Like i said I've driven these cars and i still think the civic is way more comfortable and drives a lot better than the cobalt.You're a bitch when you think you're so smart when you spot one letter that's not suppose to be there and act like its the end of all humanity because of it.
Actually I just wanted to get under your skin. Clearly it worked :). Number two, while I couldn't agree more that the Civic has a nice interior (the SI anyways) and is nicer inside than mine, it's slow, it's common, it's the typical high school boys dream car and it handles like a boat at high speed on a winding road. It sounds like a sewing machine and has virtually no headroom and less cargo space. So yes....Clap Clap indeed nigga! Aside from interior the new civic hasn't got shit on my SS. ;)
Don't get me Wrong The SRT4 is the Shit.But reason why every one like the power they make is cause it's a Mitsubishi Engine its called a "WORLD ENGINE",Its a engine that is used by a lot of manufactures around the world.They come in 1.8,2.0, and As how every one knows it SRT4 2.4
Come and race me then because i'm 12 for 12 against SI's. Stop lying little boy. 172 Hp to the wheels and sub 130 torque will never beat 252 to the wheels and 254 torque. Lies, lies lies.
HKSimports.. i should post a video of my buddies built GSR-T.. that a freaking beast hands down.. against my SS SC Stage 3 when i had my stock clutch and not greatly tune and missing my GM Dual Pass End plate.. Meh i had no chances.. cant wait for the summer.. its gonna be interesting.. i drove his and if we are in 3rd.. and floor it.. its starts spinning as the boost kicks in then even more when the VTEC kicks in.. :P
I've raced the stock SRT-4 against the SS Cobalt S/C stock, so e the BS people. The SRT-4 won hands down. More HP, and less weight makes a faster better handling car so if you pick up a spec sheet and do some research you can quash these Bullshit rumors yourself. Cobalt S/C is a sweet ride but compare it to an SI Cvic b/c stock the SRT-4 is way out of both of their leagues.
SRT-4 is always compared to a SS S/C in the mags....so i dont thing its way out of its league at all. Plus the SRT-4 was an after thought add on to a neon years after it came out...The Cobalt SS was made while the Cobalt was being developed. I rode in both the SS and SRT-4 and the SS was a tiny bit slow but was better to drive and handled better..even most of the mags wil tell ya that...
Oh and I get my info through personal experiance and a little thing called research In other words I didnt just go out and start buying/building a car I looked in to who was making the most reliable/effecient motors, after owning several camaros and 2 stangs I was fed up with riding the bus to work and borrowed a buddys DX being amazed in the quality and how much it went for an economy 1.5 I bought a 92 VX the very next day Ive only driven hondas since!
their more factory mods to my motor if u want me to keep going. Funny Ive seen none of this attention to detail(being type r motors are hand-assembled and designed by Hondas F1 engineers)in a SRT or an SS, and we wont even get started on quality of the build as we both know Slowbalts and Neons dont have a good track record going for craftsmanship.Oh and my 1.6(again stock) beats S/C SS's in 1/4 I run consistant 14.2s(again stock 1.6, soon to be turbo, buddys so take your garbage and get lost)
oh and B16B= capable of 10k with 100% stock bottom end, does 9K stock only needs titanium retainers to handle the 10k.much higher lift than your Ecotec could ever handle while still passing emmisions(its called VTEC and its the only system like it)besides the fact that the ECOTEC would run like garbage off idle. Has a factory port and polish, shorter wider intke runners, larger t.b. higher compression(11:5.1)very short gearing(4.40 or 4.70 FD)and LSD.
oh and a 2 liter K can not only put down more tq than both motors before boost(and after if you boost K to truly see whos motors more effeicient or better)but it has a flat tq curve in other words tq builds up quickly and is held fairly steady over the rpm range thanks to I-VTEC
ha wow, no honda car has any tq what so ever, not even the type r's, dc5's, or si's. I don't know where you're getting your info from, hopefully not from your b16, cause your a complete idiot then.
for one my B16B makes good tq for a 1.6(but as I said u keep comparing your 2liter powerplants to a 1.6 and 1.8) however even a stock H can throw down 150wtq while still revving out to 8K and making good top end(200hp vs what a N/A 2.4liter SS making 170hp,plz?)and an K20 may not make the same PEAK(peak beeing the key word) tq numbers as ur slowbalt stock for stock but the tq is more consistant in the powerband not to mention it makes MUCH more power up top!
Hey....go on and tell them that when McLaren originally wanted an engine designed for the F1 road car, they went to Honda first. Why on earth didn't they pick Chevrolet? Hmmmm I wonder.
haha type in SVO mustang and YOU all will see what a 4 banger can do Look for the white SVO I bet you have not seen a 4 banger 700hp like it ever and it will kill v8's no problem half the lbi and same if not more power I have had both 4&8's and had fun with both its a whole diff class you can make both bad ass cars its how much you would put in it to make it crazy fast leave the shit on the track
you here the colbalts supercharger hahah i do..that car is quick alot of people think that the ss is slow...when ever i see i comment like that i know that they have no idea what there talking about...i had a cavalier and turboed it out, than i bought the ss,,it is quick mine has stage 2, and i runover some of the fastest cars out on the street list
My GS-R hatch will beat the shit out of those . Good video though guys . Keep it up and to all those V8 lovers out there FUCK YOU VERY MUCH. I like the American V8 but I just prefer the 4banger . It is all just preference ASS CLOWNS
airgood26 whats funny is those muscle kings "chevy and dodge" all make boosted 4 bangers just like all the "imports" nowadays. take a look at what those domestic car companys are producing before u make urself look like a fool talking about imports.
ok but lets just say that you take a boosted 4 banger and put a whole bunch of money in it and you still have a boosted 4 banger where as you take a v8 and but a whole bunch of money in it and you get a bad ass car that will walk the dog on the boosted 4 banger
Uhm, a boosted 4 banger hangs just as good as v8's dude. Ever heard of evo's 4g63t? The engine straight out of the factory can do 21psi STOCK. That stock engine with built internals runs 6 second passes as well. V8's and 4 bangers have their ups and downs. Respect both worlds, or otherwise, your just a dick riding homo that doesn't know anything about racing.
a dick riding homo? ok shure but i just know what i run and it is an orginal 69 camaro with right around 800 hp that runs a very respectabl 7.5 in the quater thats what i run and i am entilted to my opinion and thats jus what i feel i like the old school and thats what i run
haha once that civic hits vtec it's gone,sure those ss cobalt's have 200-250hp,what ever it is,but civic's are way better,dodge and chevy cant come close,those cars are junk!!
for real. the most that guy has is probobly a b16 or a b18 turbo. and if it was a b18 it would probobly be an LS engine because of how cheap and the preformance u get out of them when u turbo them. im guessing that civics only runnin about 5 psi. or maybe the chevys supercharger is just to loud.
@Nettikturbo Actually it does. Its an Ecotec LNF engine, and it has dual camshaft continuously variable valve timing, the equivalent to i-VTEC. Chevys name for this is VVT (Variable Valve Timing)
@terraflata@terraflata No. Brother, honest you're not correct in this. Cam Phasing is not the same as Vtec. Vtec, will physically actuate a second set of cam lobes via hydraulic actuation for the followers. GM has no form of Variable Lift, let alone Variable Profile (which is what VTEC is).
I had a nice explanation but I kept getting errors during posting : /
@Nettikturbo Touche! Orignal VTEC was a different characteristic of lift, duration and timing through a different set of lobes, while i-VTEC was the addition of cam phasing. Fiat was doing variable lift since the 60's. GM tried it in the 70s. The only peoiple I know of today that have variable lift are Mitsubishi, Subaru, Porsche, Volvo, Toyota, BMW....in fact GM is one of the only ones not using variable lift oddly.
@terraflata Indeed, Nissan uses VVL as well, that is partly how they get such a great output out of their top model VQ series.
I wonder why GM hasn't put any effort into valvetrain technology. That is where all of the engineering will be needed in the next 20 years. We're going to be using gasoline for a long time.
However I am proud of GM for their 3.0 DI V6. 270 horse, NA, no variable lift, or variable duration!
i love gm cars. so call me a gm nuthugger if you want but idc what you drive my SS CAMARO will SMOKE YAAA! LS POWER! just by adding slicks to my car i can drop like a second of my 1/4mi. what sucks is i cant just throw some slicks on... MY CAR WOULD RIP ITS OWN SELF APART DUE TO THE PURE POWER!!! btw... they shouldnt have put such a sacred term on a cobalt... shoulda called it the z24sc or some shit... the srt is better than either of those... turbo always is
either way when a gm loses all the gm nuthuggers come out and bash the srt4 or the civic. Just take the LOSS with some dignity. And PS my gsr coupe smoked even the supercharged version of the slowbalt!!
that civic was definatly not pushing much boost , but did you guys see him playing with that ss?Dont mess around with a boosted honda these car have motors that push 200hp WITHOUT BOOST unlike a cobalt which pushes early 90s B16A numbers despite being more than half a liter larger in displacement,not to mention a civic has a way better chasis and suspension(double wishbone all the way around, even on DX)
both of those engine have way more potential than the civics motor, the only reason the civic beat it is cause it has so much power and so little weight. Strip both the cobalt ss and srt4, give all three cars the same HP and then see who wins, and it will most likely be the one with more torque
more potential? only if you know absolutly nothing about motors. a B16A(the lowliest of the DOHC VTECS)has a better rod ratio than both of them(a good rod ratio is needed to hold the high RPMs necessary in making power in a 4cyl.)Can a cobalt or SRT make over 800WHP on a 100% unmmodded crank? how about pushing the same horespower on a stock head?(both have been done on many B,H,D,and K series motors pushing these numbers)when pushing these motors to 800whp can you too use a stock oil/water pump?
how about your stock ignition system right up to 18psi of boost on a motor meant to be N/A?I think Ive made my point unless u want 2 keep going and that simply is, if its FWD it better be JDM or EDM or simply put it doesnt have a chance at the track(circuit racing not drag racing you actually have to turn)oh and those motors only make more tq when comparing them against 1.6 ans 1.8 liter Ds and Bs, bring out an H or a K(same displacement or better than SRT or Slowbalt and lets see tq)
you must be mentioning B18C5 which WILL kill an N/A SS in integra and a S/C SS in a civic chasis with a low 14 sec pull but ever heard of K20 capable of 240WHP/180TQ(yes at the wheels) with just KPRO,but even without KPRO a K swapped civic can run high 12s all day long!I know of an B20 packing EF(not that built uses a combo or type r parts) that has a best et of 11.8 on slicks with 100% stock suspension.show me a cobalt that can run high 11s with a 90% stock motor/100% stock suspension
I like how people that have a civic with anything on it think they are fast . its like putting a ecotec turbo not supercharged on a civics body and watch it hit high 12s
Also all of you guys heralding the cobalt and SRT-4 as some great AMERICAN car need to stop, half the STR4 enging is built by mitsubishi, and all ecotecs are made by toyota. so STFU
lol this video just showed me how dang slow those SS wore! my suggestion to the kid in the SS is to take out you back seat/ spare tire whatever u can to loose some weight on the car....
he also needs to learn how to shift. idrive the LT, its a damn good car, especially with gas the way it is. DONT KILL THE FEW SS's THAT ARE OUT THERE!!!!!!! beat stuff, BUT DONT KILL'EM!!!!
i own a civic, just stock, i put a ton of money into audio just for fun, and if honda ever realize how big streett racing is or even just the love for speed, they would release a turbo civic and it would be a good race between the new cobalt and the srt-4..next few years should be interesting to see if a new turbo civic is released
Well the civic won, vid tells it all.Now i know the ss and srt-4 come stock with supercharge/turbocharge and the civic dosent but what if the civic did? The civic will still win I now about cars a mechanic for 10+ years and a local track around the coner i see more civics beating srt,ss, My pros gos for the civic and people lets stop hating ok.
yeah hes got probably 6-7 grand under the hood.. we got our stock engine.. he has to change his for a better one like lets say a Intergra Type-R B18 engine and the forge it then turbo and bla bla bla.. we put minor bolt on mods and we do low 13's high 12's
Yep, GM also announced they are going to be using a Direct-Injection system similar to the MZR23DiSi in the MS3. It Should be a better match-up stock versus stock. I'm just glad they're getting rid of that super-charger(no offense SS guys).
damn good racing. Thing with the SRT-4 is that it was rated at 230hp but it was tested/dynoed at 260hp. Its a suprise the Cobalt kept up. Thank god there dropping the supercharger on it!
Honda Pwn mission - very nice.
msk1911 4 months ago in playlist Evo
dodge srt 4 whooped there asses! best car in this vid
MileHighGamerz 1 year ago
Cobalt SS Turbo VS Turbo Civic
To see what happens!!!
SinaloalokoCLN 1 year ago
honda will win everytime
lemmelime 1 year ago
superchargers work better than turbo cause it gets instant respond turbo have to spool up and that takes like 2-4 sec oh by the way i hate cobolts!!
jaunisaboss 1 year ago
superchargers work better than turbo cause it gets instant respond turbo have to spool up and that takes like 2-4 sec
jaunisaboss 1 year ago
@jaunisaboss thats the only thing a supercharger has on a turbo, well that and less parts. however, turbo are more efficient, save u fuel, more powerful and definetley more bang for your buck. and why was taht SRT so slow? must have been mods on the SS
ptester123 1 year ago
@jaunisaboss thats the only thing a supercharger has on a turbo, well that and less parts. however, turbo are more efficient, save u fuel, more powerful and definetley more bang for your buck. Besides, my stock turbo pushes 22PSI and takes like a sec to get there, depending on RPMs... and why was taht SRT so slow? must have been mods on the SS
ptester123 1 year ago
@ptester123 not even sure bout the ss but i race in michigan and the cobolt ss here are slow as shit lol
jaunisaboss 1 year ago
where in michigan do you race?
mylucky08ss 1 year ago
@jaunisaboss where do you race in michigan?
mylucky08ss 1 year ago
@mylucky08ss woodward ave or french road in detroit
we got videos just type in french road street racing
jaunisaboss 1 year ago
This video post should be called, Slow, slower, and slowest.
RottenJeeves 1 year ago
well obviously Americas answer to the über tunable civic has failed and failed tremendously.. always buy imports they will forever be better
allturbo16 1 year ago
@allturbo16 lol no its the mindless idiots who say "hey i see so many i should buy one and be just like every1 else" the ss turbo and ss sc beat every import in their price range
bergaflickal 1 year ago
Cant post
Nettikturbo 1 year ago
that colbalt needed to cool down
MiamiZ28 1 year ago
@MiamiZ28 I'm surprised the SC SS did as well as it did. That blower puts out nothing but hot air, and the water to air intercooling could easily heat soak.
Nettikturbo 1 year ago
No comparemos Turbo con No Turbo U_U
SinaloalokoCLN 1 year ago
is not honda power is the turbo power :)
casimiro56 1 year ago
Honda ppower
your89romeo 1 year ago
yo o my god thats me in the shitty fucking cobalt lol they fucking suck lol i cant beleive i found this vid lol omg i live in nc now and have a srt-4 lol that would beat the cobalt the other srt and that civic lol wow lol fun times in that shitty slowbolt it blew up by the way some shitty tuner fucked up my car anyways f cobalts lol they are junk lol even the turbo ones lol shitty shitty cars alot blow up lol
slowneon05 1 year ago
wow THESE GUYS ARE RETARDED i have both srt-4 and cobalt ss/sc dude both cars arnt ment to hold high mph for long thats how my friend went through 2 engines on his srt4 140-160 is bad news for most of these cars over 50 for a honda and its gunna blow ahahah =P
winkdogydog101 2 years ago
after the second run the cobalt needed to stop. im pretty sure it was heatsoaking like a mother with no given cooling time.
ssmrico 2 years ago
race a turbo cobalt and there will be a big diff. it will whoop both of those cars
suu5wuu 2 years ago 6
ya thats why the honda just kicked that shitty cobalts ass huh !
toyla1234 2 years ago
cobalt ss would smoke that junk car at stage 3 lol honda sucks balls
frncscdvs 2 years ago 2
cobalts ftw
camopaint0707 2 years ago 2
if ford would bring us the focus rs they would be nice...
discfunktion 2 years ago
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all 3 of those cars suck ford is king of the road and off road
fords08 2 years ago
groooosssssss. neons suck
OilersFan2354 2 years ago 2
one word: MP5T
ianakabeans 2 years ago
well Honda engines are still good. They get pretty good power on lower boost. My K20 can take 9psi and get about 400whp with the right turbo and tuning but with my Greddy kit I could probably get 300whp on 9psi
MaddDogg81 2 years ago
maddogg81 u are fail. trolling around cobalt ss videos boasting about youre "turbo rsx" why dont u post a video of u beating one
aqmustang18 2 years ago
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MaddDogg81 2 years ago
why do you think there are so amny turbo hondas around on low boost?? they cant handle high boost, a turbo cobalt will ALWAYS make more power with the same mods
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
its bc of there compression ratio stupid and there redline they have a larger powerband
conner12893 2 years ago 2
yup, your just proving my point, thats why alot of people chose to go with non-v-tec honda engines, lower compression ratios... "stupid"? how old are you lol?
yelhsa8989a 2 years ago
Actually he is right. They all run low boost because they are naturally high compression engines. What happens when you run high boost in a high compression engine without proper fuel? It ignites prematurely (detonation) and pushes against the piston, losing you power and fucking up your engine. That's why people switch out pistons for low compression ones. As far as redline is concerned, what is the point of running to 8500 if your turbo is out of it's map by 6500??
terraflata 2 years ago
@yelhsa8989a I don't know how many hondas are on low boost compared to high but I make good power on low boost so I don't need a ton
MaddDogg81 1 year ago
@MaddDogg81 I don't know anyone with a Cobalt SS there aren't many around because people would rather have a Honda or Acura
MaddDogg81 1 year ago
VTEKKKKKKKKK
redlineluv 2 years ago
you got beat by a SOHC turbo and had fewer passengers...lol..looks like the civics only on 8 psi or so.
mzdamx3rs 2 years ago
assuming the cobalt is stock the civic just has to beat a 15 in the quarter which with right tunings isnt hard to do
208Jake 2 years ago
the cobalt isnt stock, he either has a cai or a airbox mod....supercharger is way to loud for stock. You barely hear it whine at 4000rpm and above
Snakes709 2 years ago
8 psi doesn't pull that hard. I have a turboed civic and mine doesn't pull that hard with 8 psi. Wish it did though. I can still beat the supercharged cobalt... not the turbo one.
CarefullySleek 2 years ago 2
Your civic might be faster than that SS but its still an ugly ass bucket of bolts that ain't worth more than an old used kia rio.
cobalt1010 2 years ago 2
Your car is plastic inside and out.Its uncomfortable and most people consider looking at any civic old or new rather than the cobalt just because they have better styling are more comfortable and just plain more fun to have.
mangerra2 2 years ago
hoenstly...all that noise and hype, and they don't go very far past 100?
jim62226 2 years ago
The motor in the cobalt is made by Saab. get your facts straight. If you crawl underneath one you'll see it says saab on the cross bar, and on the S/C cobalt on the back of the spark plug/coil pack cover it also is engraved SAAB. I've walked G35's and many many many many many many Si's and 350z's. Bottom line under 300hp you're not gonna beat a SS with a good driver, And even if you're over 300hp you might still get walked. 2007 SS/SC
cdooley1983 3 years ago
Um if you would do your research you would know that the eco is a get together with opel.its been out in europe before you knew about it....
mangerra2 3 years ago
finally a fast sc cobalt, i raced a couple of sc cobalts and they were'nt this fast
memosrt 3 years ago
U can hear the supercharger pulling the engine power down...
bluecologne25 3 years ago
civic walked the ss down
btheasian 3 years ago
Hell yes he did well built.but those new ss cobalt turbo's are sick too,but i go with honda any day.
mangerra2 3 years ago
you know the new cobalt ss's would smoke the si's right?
95MonteCarloGuy 3 years ago
I have driven the s/c and the turbo,i've beaten them both with a new si stock.did it plenty of times just to prove it to my friend which we stayed up all night just racing each other but i do think the turbo is way better out of the two models.but it also depends on the driver cause i raced a turbo ss and he kept up a lil'better.but i don't discriminate on toher cars i like all,just like Honda i dont know.
mangerra2 3 years ago
I dont know man, i'd have to see it to believe it....i hate honda's...that's all everyone would talk about b4 i graduated from High school, honda this, honda that...i've grown a passion of hate for honda's
95MonteCarloGuy 3 years ago
i know what you mean.. i hate hondas.
fcktard1ahole 3 years ago
you must be on crack. maybe you beat a s/c one but the new ss/tc is a different car. thats like saying you beat a stock srt-4 or a mazdaspeed3 with a stock si! That'll never happen. those cars can miss every gear and still walk a si. i know because my girl owns an si and i know how slow they are!
srtpumpkin 3 years ago
Sure...I test drove just about every car that had just came out from 2009 and down almost every day.Like i just ship the cars.,All my friends have srt-4's cobalt t/c's and yet can't believe they get taken buy the n/a k20a.The cobalt Eco tec engine is an Opel,why is it that the Opel turbo,(same shit as cobalt t/c) gets murdered and was out sold in Europe by the N/A k20a equipped civic type r EP3.I'll take a stock srt4 cobalt T/C with a stock RSX type s or SI,any day.Better looking too.
mangerra2 3 years ago
More BS. God man, do you losers ever stop lying? And that opel engine is way quicker, way better and it's a closed loop turbo. The SI is slow as dogshit and I would know because I considered nuying one until I test drove it. I promptly lost a Jetta VR-6. Embarassing much? No thanks. Stick that SI on the Nurburgring and see how it does!
spectre0618 3 years ago
"CLAP-CLAP"Nigga that mouth of yours is bs...I've driven the new ss t/c you can't tell me shit about how it drives a couple of my friends have them.You'll get walked by single cams.got a crx ready with itb's that will whoop that ass.
mangerra2 3 years ago
"CLAP-CLAP" Nigga? Lol, everything else you typed now means dick. Clearly your IQ is on par with your average street thug, wannabe gangster. Stop acting black, pull your pants up and act like the white 'n nerdy video game addict you are. Don't compare your CRX to my SS because you just sound fucking ignorant. I took mechanics and I read non-stop on the auto industry. All the opinions that matter favor my car anyways. So enjoy your $900 CRX. How much horse does your trailer home make?
spectre0618 3 years ago
Your ignorant ass fuck if you think i'm white...LMAO...I don't play video games,My IQ is higher than yours and still grew up in a place were you would be found crouched down rocking back and forth because you would be thinking it was Hell.You seem a lot like that fake ass cyber thug.Regardless if you took mechanics doesn't mean you know cars.Any body can do that.Its ok you can lie and say you're one too.and no opinion that matters favor your car.
mangerra2 3 years ago
I'm ignorant ass fuck? Did you mean "Ignorant as fuck"? Wow, for a guy with such a sparkling IQ you sure have some serious issues with basic typing skills. Number two, last I checked you started off your first comment with *clap* *clap Nigga* pure cyber thug. Number three, every opinion that matters favors my car, from Motortrend to Heinrichy who was responsible for setting the Nurburghring world record for FWD with the SS T/C. So what's your next comment IQ champ?
spectre0618 2 years ago
WOW one letter...Clap Clap nigga! you know when two hands meet..Wow you are smart.Your car still sucks cause new civics out sell your car buy thousands.Like i said I've driven these cars and i still think the civic is way more comfortable and drives a lot better than the cobalt.You're a bitch when you think you're so smart when you spot one letter that's not suppose to be there and act like its the end of all humanity because of it.
mangerra2 2 years ago
Actually I just wanted to get under your skin. Clearly it worked :). Number two, while I couldn't agree more that the Civic has a nice interior (the SI anyways) and is nicer inside than mine, it's slow, it's common, it's the typical high school boys dream car and it handles like a boat at high speed on a winding road. It sounds like a sewing machine and has virtually no headroom and less cargo space. So yes....Clap Clap indeed nigga! Aside from interior the new civic hasn't got shit on my SS. ;)
spectre0618 2 years ago
........and for that matter, neither does your CRX. E Z Computer gangsta!
spectre0618 2 years ago
Ha Ha. Theres a Grandma civic club in my neighborhood. You should join them and share your passion for civics with them.
cobalt1010 2 years ago
KOOOL! they must have better things and more interesting to say than you. :) tell them i'll give them a call.
mangerra2 2 years ago
Don't get me Wrong The SRT4 is the Shit.But reason why every one like the power they make is cause it's a Mitsubishi Engine its called a "WORLD ENGINE",Its a engine that is used by a lot of manufactures around the world.They come in 1.8,2.0, and As how every one knows it SRT4 2.4
mangerra2 3 years ago
Come and race me then because i'm 12 for 12 against SI's. Stop lying little boy. 172 Hp to the wheels and sub 130 torque will never beat 252 to the wheels and 254 torque. Lies, lies lies.
spectre0618 3 years ago
HKSimports.. i should post a video of my buddies built GSR-T.. that a freaking beast hands down.. against my SS SC Stage 3 when i had my stock clutch and not greatly tune and missing my GM Dual Pass End plate.. Meh i had no chances.. cant wait for the summer.. its gonna be interesting.. i drove his and if we are in 3rd.. and floor it.. its starts spinning as the boost kicks in then even more when the VTEC kicks in.. :P
r0k088 3 years ago
I think civics and SRT=quartos are going to have to work harder again SS/TC's
ryleykari 3 years ago
civic should brake boost for even more pwnage
Euphorica 3 years ago
nice civic.. built b16 with boost? or d16 boost?
SolOfVegas 3 years ago
that Civic picks up speed pretty fast compared to my friends.
HKSImports 3 years ago
Too bad the SS wasn't an 08 turbo. Would've made it more interesting.
aarroot 3 years ago 7
Vtec what?
MatthewMitchell3434 3 years ago 2
I've raced the stock SRT-4 against the SS Cobalt S/C stock, so e the BS people. The SRT-4 won hands down. More HP, and less weight makes a faster better handling car so if you pick up a spec sheet and do some research you can quash these Bullshit rumors yourself. Cobalt S/C is a sweet ride but compare it to an SI Cvic b/c stock the SRT-4 is way out of both of their leagues.
spectre0618 3 years ago
SRT-4 is always compared to a SS S/C in the mags....so i dont thing its way out of its league at all. Plus the SRT-4 was an after thought add on to a neon years after it came out...The Cobalt SS was made while the Cobalt was being developed. I rode in both the SS and SRT-4 and the SS was a tiny bit slow but was better to drive and handled better..even most of the mags wil tell ya that...
sparke1999 3 years ago
the beauty of the cobalt SS's 50/50 weight ratio.
jimmytango 3 years ago
Not in my case...I got an Srt-4 by about half a car stock for stock. I've got the vid too.
06superchargedbalt 3 years ago
cobalts own
blakhawks8732 3 years ago
what you talking about the civic beat both of them
motpaka 3 years ago
Honda rulez!!!
xhondaboii305x 3 years ago
dont crash ur civic cuz ull be dead!!!!!!!!!
shizzTITSHIT123 3 years ago 2
is that a stage 2 Cobalt?
MaddDogg81 3 years ago
Oh and I get my info through personal experiance and a little thing called research In other words I didnt just go out and start buying/building a car I looked in to who was making the most reliable/effecient motors, after owning several camaros and 2 stangs I was fed up with riding the bus to work and borrowed a buddys DX being amazed in the quality and how much it went for an economy 1.5 I bought a 92 VX the very next day Ive only driven hondas since!
B16BBOB 3 years ago
DAMu went off on ery1 good shit tho u definetly got ur facts down
408jr 3 years ago
their more factory mods to my motor if u want me to keep going. Funny Ive seen none of this attention to detail(being type r motors are hand-assembled and designed by Hondas F1 engineers)in a SRT or an SS, and we wont even get started on quality of the build as we both know Slowbalts and Neons dont have a good track record going for craftsmanship.Oh and my 1.6(again stock) beats S/C SS's in 1/4 I run consistant 14.2s(again stock 1.6, soon to be turbo, buddys so take your garbage and get lost)
B16BBOB 3 years ago
oh and B16B= capable of 10k with 100% stock bottom end, does 9K stock only needs titanium retainers to handle the 10k.much higher lift than your Ecotec could ever handle while still passing emmisions(its called VTEC and its the only system like it)besides the fact that the ECOTEC would run like garbage off idle. Has a factory port and polish, shorter wider intke runners, larger t.b. higher compression(11:5.1)very short gearing(4.40 or 4.70 FD)and LSD.
B16BBOB 3 years ago
oh and a 2 liter K can not only put down more tq than both motors before boost(and after if you boost K to truly see whos motors more effeicient or better)but it has a flat tq curve in other words tq builds up quickly and is held fairly steady over the rpm range thanks to I-VTEC
B16BBOB 3 years ago
ha wow, no honda car has any tq what so ever, not even the type r's, dc5's, or si's. I don't know where you're getting your info from, hopefully not from your b16, cause your a complete idiot then.
trackx07 3 years ago
for one my B16B makes good tq for a 1.6(but as I said u keep comparing your 2liter powerplants to a 1.6 and 1.8) however even a stock H can throw down 150wtq while still revving out to 8K and making good top end(200hp vs what a N/A 2.4liter SS making 170hp,plz?)and an K20 may not make the same PEAK(peak beeing the key word) tq numbers as ur slowbalt stock for stock but the tq is more consistant in the powerband not to mention it makes MUCH more power up top!
B16BBOB 3 years ago
Hey....go on and tell them that when McLaren originally wanted an engine designed for the F1 road car, they went to Honda first. Why on earth didn't they pick Chevrolet? Hmmmm I wonder.
terraflata 2 years ago
haha type in SVO mustang and YOU all will see what a 4 banger can do Look for the white SVO I bet you have not seen a 4 banger 700hp like it ever and it will kill v8's no problem half the lbi and same if not more power I have had both 4&8's and had fun with both its a whole diff class you can make both bad ass cars its how much you would put in it to make it crazy fast leave the shit on the track
adamsvo4life 3 years ago
race an NSX turbo and your Lamborgini might be surprised
MaddDogg81 3 years ago
man that Civic slaughtered the Cobalt
MaddDogg81 3 years ago
My RSX turbo will take out the SRT-4 and Cobalt
MaddDogg81 3 years ago
my murcielago will take out your RSX turbo the SRT-4 AND the Cobalt
Tarron2 3 years ago
My jetpack will take out your murcielago.
ryanissuper 3 years ago
you here the colbalts supercharger hahah i do..that car is quick alot of people think that the ss is slow...when ever i see i comment like that i know that they have no idea what there talking about...i had a cavalier and turboed it out, than i bought the ss,,it is quick mine has stage 2, and i runover some of the fastest cars out on the street list
honda civic-turbo
honda civic si
srt-4
evolution
mustang 88/99/205/
and i just past a 350z/ with some mods
downpoor33 3 years ago
My GS-R hatch will beat the shit out of those . Good video though guys . Keep it up and to all those V8 lovers out there FUCK YOU VERY MUCH. I like the American V8 but I just prefer the 4banger . It is all just preference ASS CLOWNS
eme8505 3 years ago
yea yea yea imports are like tampons every pussy has one get a v8 in a chevy dodge or ford before you start posting vids
airgood26 3 years ago
airgood26 whats funny is those muscle kings "chevy and dodge" all make boosted 4 bangers just like all the "imports" nowadays. take a look at what those domestic car companys are producing before u make urself look like a fool talking about imports.
cycoclown5150 3 years ago
ok but lets just say that you take a boosted 4 banger and put a whole bunch of money in it and you still have a boosted 4 banger where as you take a v8 and but a whole bunch of money in it and you get a bad ass car that will walk the dog on the boosted 4 banger
airgood26 3 years ago
Uhm, a boosted 4 banger hangs just as good as v8's dude. Ever heard of evo's 4g63t? The engine straight out of the factory can do 21psi STOCK. That stock engine with built internals runs 6 second passes as well. V8's and 4 bangers have their ups and downs. Respect both worlds, or otherwise, your just a dick riding homo that doesn't know anything about racing.
Iskarn 3 years ago
a dick riding homo? ok shure but i just know what i run and it is an orginal 69 camaro with right around 800 hp that runs a very respectabl 7.5 in the quater thats what i run and i am entilted to my opinion and thats jus what i feel i like the old school and thats what i run
airgood26 3 years ago
7.5 in 1/4 ,can somebody say BS
B16BBOB 3 years ago
u guys are fuckin fags. ur fighting over # of cylinders on this dudes you tube video comment space get a life.
thiskid001 3 years ago
haha once that civic hits vtec it's gone,sure those ss cobalt's have 200-250hp,what ever it is,but civic's are way better,dodge and chevy cant come close,those cars are junk!!
mike400F 3 years ago
dude it's a turbo civic...vtec is just variable valve timing. You're an idiot.
flat4whore 3 years ago
for real. the most that guy has is probobly a b16 or a b18 turbo. and if it was a b18 it would probobly be an LS engine because of how cheap and the preformance u get out of them when u turbo them. im guessing that civics only runnin about 5 psi. or maybe the chevys supercharger is just to loud.
cycoclown5150 3 years ago
I agree, your retarded. The Chevy has VTEC, it just isn't called that.
terraflata 2 years ago
@terraflata No it doesn't at all.
Nettikturbo 1 year ago
@Nettikturbo Actually it does. Its an Ecotec LNF engine, and it has dual camshaft continuously variable valve timing, the equivalent to i-VTEC. Chevys name for this is VVT (Variable Valve Timing)
terraflata 1 year ago
@terraflata @terraflata No. Brother, honest you're not correct in this. Cam Phasing is not the same as Vtec. Vtec, will physically actuate a second set of cam lobes via hydraulic actuation for the followers. GM has no form of Variable Lift, let alone Variable Profile (which is what VTEC is).
I had a nice explanation but I kept getting errors during posting : /
Nettikturbo 1 year ago
@Nettikturbo Touche! Orignal VTEC was a different characteristic of lift, duration and timing through a different set of lobes, while i-VTEC was the addition of cam phasing. Fiat was doing variable lift since the 60's. GM tried it in the 70s. The only peoiple I know of today that have variable lift are Mitsubishi, Subaru, Porsche, Volvo, Toyota, BMW....in fact GM is one of the only ones not using variable lift oddly.
terraflata 1 year ago
@terraflata Indeed, Nissan uses VVL as well, that is partly how they get such a great output out of their top model VQ series.
I wonder why GM hasn't put any effort into valvetrain technology. That is where all of the engineering will be needed in the next 20 years. We're going to be using gasoline for a long time.
However I am proud of GM for their 3.0 DI V6. 270 horse, NA, no variable lift, or variable duration!
Nettikturbo 1 year ago
hey ricky300gt how can you tell its a ricer civic
the interior looks stock dont know the exterior.
if you don't know the word ricer
shut tha #*%^ up
edisson3000 3 years ago
the SRT4 sounded nice!
RollinOnDubzzz 4 years ago
NICE!! those were good races
d347m4r 4 years ago
i love gm cars. so call me a gm nuthugger if you want but idc what you drive my SS CAMARO will SMOKE YAAA! LS POWER! just by adding slicks to my car i can drop like a second of my 1/4mi. what sucks is i cant just throw some slicks on... MY CAR WOULD RIP ITS OWN SELF APART DUE TO THE PURE POWER!!! btw... they shouldnt have put such a sacred term on a cobalt... shoulda called it the z24sc or some shit... the srt is better than either of those... turbo always is
TheyCallMeAlex89 4 years ago
either way when a gm loses all the gm nuthuggers come out and bash the srt4 or the civic. Just take the LOSS with some dignity. And PS my gsr coupe smoked even the supercharged version of the slowbalt!!
skyline180000 4 years ago
What mods do you have to your GSR, because to be quite honest, they aren't fast cars...not at all.
I pulled one by a nose(a close race) up to 80mph, in my.....wait for it....2000 Grand Prix GT- ahahahh only 200hp(3400lbs!), with 250,000km on it!
rm125 4 years ago
is the ricer civic a hatch?
Ricky3000gt 4 years ago
theres on comming traffic assholes
datbacker59 4 years ago
that civic was definatly not pushing much boost , but did you guys see him playing with that ss?Dont mess around with a boosted honda these car have motors that push 200hp WITHOUT BOOST unlike a cobalt which pushes early 90s B16A numbers despite being more than half a liter larger in displacement,not to mention a civic has a way better chasis and suspension(double wishbone all the way around, even on DX)
B16BBOB 4 years ago
lol u have no idea what ur talkin about but ok
dig543 4 years ago
ha yea maybe 200, not at the wheels, aaaand about what 130lb-ft of tq? that's just sad
trackx07 4 years ago
still pulls on those other cars with more torch... so who cares if its only 170ftlbs..
Euphorica 4 years ago
both of those engine have way more potential than the civics motor, the only reason the civic beat it is cause it has so much power and so little weight. Strip both the cobalt ss and srt4, give all three cars the same HP and then see who wins, and it will most likely be the one with more torque
trackx07 4 years ago
more potential? only if you know absolutly nothing about motors. a B16A(the lowliest of the DOHC VTECS)has a better rod ratio than both of them(a good rod ratio is needed to hold the high RPMs necessary in making power in a 4cyl.)Can a cobalt or SRT make over 800WHP on a 100% unmmodded crank? how about pushing the same horespower on a stock head?(both have been done on many B,H,D,and K series motors pushing these numbers)when pushing these motors to 800whp can you too use a stock oil/water pump?
B16BBOB 3 years ago
how about your stock ignition system right up to 18psi of boost on a motor meant to be N/A?I think Ive made my point unless u want 2 keep going and that simply is, if its FWD it better be JDM or EDM or simply put it doesnt have a chance at the track(circuit racing not drag racing you actually have to turn)oh and those motors only make more tq when comparing them against 1.6 ans 1.8 liter Ds and Bs, bring out an H or a K(same displacement or better than SRT or Slowbalt and lets see tq)
B16BBOB 3 years ago
you must be mentioning B18C5 which WILL kill an N/A SS in integra and a S/C SS in a civic chasis with a low 14 sec pull but ever heard of K20 capable of 240WHP/180TQ(yes at the wheels) with just KPRO,but even without KPRO a K swapped civic can run high 12s all day long!I know of an B20 packing EF(not that built uses a combo or type r parts) that has a best et of 11.8 on slicks with 100% stock suspension.show me a cobalt that can run high 11s with a 90% stock motor/100% stock suspension
B16BBOB 4 years ago
ive seen a k20 ef run high 11's BPU, stock suspension fronts where slicks. total right *Thumbs up*
cycoclown5150 3 years ago
civics are for grandmas and fat kids
pilotbjb17 4 years ago
that civic would eat both the srt4 and cobalt... lol
outdoorsman2085 4 years ago
nah it wouldent take my turbo balt with 260 HP and say that:D ha ha mines not even a SS
07blkCobalt 4 years ago
thats cute, that chevys suck zomasur13. real cute. those were like high 12 second cars, at best. my chevy does it in low to mid tens =)
oh and ive seen cobalts run 9's without looking half as gay as a civic
camaro95ZSC 4 years ago 3
you are my hero lmao nicely said
07blkCobalt 4 years ago
hondas all the way up motherfuck$%$@ jajaja chevy sucks
zomasur13 4 years ago
I like how people that have a civic with anything on it think they are fast . its like putting a ecotec turbo not supercharged on a civics body and watch it hit high 12s
master9716 4 years ago
what mods does the cobalt and srt4 have
yzblue2008 4 years ago
ones you dont want
ProViz 4 years ago
ok what are they then? for the cobalt?
07blkCobalt 4 years ago
s s s s s s s slow
jordonf9 4 years ago
american cars r crap lol..my subie can beat em in a sec..
henryq89 4 years ago
Yeah hahaha Asian cars are all the same shit chinese, korean or japanese they all suck ..
swindm 4 years ago
Also all of you guys heralding the cobalt and SRT-4 as some great AMERICAN car need to stop, half the STR4 enging is built by mitsubishi, and all ecotecs are made by toyota. so STFU
koukicrisp 4 years ago
someone doesnt know how to drive(guy in cobalt)
sk813578 4 years ago
lol this video just showed me how dang slow those SS wore! my suggestion to the kid in the SS is to take out you back seat/ spare tire whatever u can to loose some weight on the car....
HenryS1986 4 years ago
he also needs to learn how to shift. idrive the LT, its a damn good car, especially with gas the way it is. DONT KILL THE FEW SS's THAT ARE OUT THERE!!!!!!! beat stuff, BUT DONT KILL'EM!!!!
reddev003 4 years ago
lol well i own a SS and last time i checked it was far from Being slow..being slow is when u drive around in your K car. hahaa
sparke1999 4 years ago
Filming good - but you lazy american's ... automatics lol!
whatcorsa 4 years ago
automatic..? wtf you talking about they are all manual
r0k088 4 years ago
how would the cobalt miss a gear if it were automatic, you idiot
koukicrisp 4 years ago 2
autotragic isnt even an option on those cars...
poopface617 4 years ago
i own a civic, just stock, i put a ton of money into audio just for fun, and if honda ever realize how big streett racing is or even just the love for speed, they would release a turbo civic and it would be a good race between the new cobalt and the srt-4..next few years should be interesting to see if a new turbo civic is released
sheldon50player 4 years ago
Well the civic won, vid tells it all.Now i know the ss and srt-4 come stock with supercharge/turbocharge and the civic dosent but what if the civic did? The civic will still win I now about cars a mechanic for 10+ years and a local track around the coner i see more civics beating srt,ss, My pros gos for the civic and people lets stop hating ok.
fearlessracer 4 years ago
yeah hes got probably 6-7 grand under the hood.. we got our stock engine.. he has to change his for a better one like lets say a Intergra Type-R B18 engine and the forge it then turbo and bla bla bla.. we put minor bolt on mods and we do low 13's high 12's
r0k088 4 years ago
A turbo ecotec is capable of pushing 500 ponies with just gm performance parts.
shbfd 4 years ago
HOW ABOUT THEM HONDAS! AHAHAHAHAHA
Chexplicit1 4 years ago
they suck :)
storm1580 4 years ago
Probrably cost him his college education just for the intercooler...AHAHAHAAHAHAHaaaaaaaaa
nicajm 4 years ago
08 Cobalt SS will be Turbocharged
I heared its about 260HP
but no change in exterior except for wheels
cobaltss1985 4 years ago
Yep, GM also announced they are going to be using a Direct-Injection system similar to the MZR23DiSi in the MS3. It Should be a better match-up stock versus stock. I'm just glad they're getting rid of that super-charger(no offense SS guys).
azmazdaspeed3 4 years ago
props to GM for going the turbo route.
azmazdaspeed3 4 years ago
damn good racing. Thing with the SRT-4 is that it was rated at 230hp but it was tested/dynoed at 260hp. Its a suprise the Cobalt kept up. Thank god there dropping the supercharger on it!
Torque173 4 years ago
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