VR: Let's Talk About Hex

[lupitaeight]

I totally agree with you about curses and I never could buy the deal about the three fold law.  Your alter is very impressive. Thank you for posting this video.

[rave420]

Karma.This concept states that right action is returned with positive energy and negitive actions is returned with negativity. It's allied with "Harm None" and is again a reminder to act in a positive fasion. Additionally we can see how good (Positive; Beneficial ) actions are in themselves acts of Spirituality.

Scott Cunningham

Livving Wicca

[Neopagan2007]

Define positive and define negative.

[rave420]

Some Wiccans express a slighty different concept Known as the law of three or the three fold law. This states that anything we do returns to us in triple strength. Thus, a small act of caring may be returned to us as a great act of caring by some one else. A petty act of revenge may result in great harm against us. The law of three is a different understanding of karma.

Scott Cunningham

Living Wicca

[Neopagan2007]

In my opinion and practice The Law of Three does not exists. Doreen thought so too and she was there and had a hand in the creation of Wicca. Funny how no other religious path has a three-fold rule.

[witchalan77]

Cunningham? Really?

As much as I respect the man (RIP), he was part of the bane of modern Witchcraft.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

One more nasty word and you will be blocked.

You totaly missed what i was saying. but you do as you will.

Blessings and light )O(

[spiritualdevinepagan]

My brother how you live your life is up to you the choice you make, Dictates the life you lead.

Im not saying you are wrong I am saying your teachings are not right the view that wiccan can be use for any evil is not correct and never will be it is a path of pure and good all nagitive is banished and frowned on.

[Neopagan2007]

Ok, I am about done with you. I have had it with you saying that I am misleading people. You don't even know that your version of the Rede is modified to allow self-defense. There are many Wiccans out there that would accuse you of misleading people down the wrong path just as you have accused me. One more nasty word and you will be blocked.

[Neopagan2007]

You might also want to do some research on Gardners claim that he participated in a ritual to defend England from Hitler that involved a human offering themselves up as a sacrifice. I would never condone that. Does that make me more or less ethical than the founder of Wicca?

[Neopagan2007]

Speaking of ethics. Since you are opposed to things that were at the core of early Wiccan practice and that I am leading people down the wrong path... was Gardner leading people down the wrong path when he took someones measure so that he may curse them if they broke their vows?

[spiritualdevinepagan]

The Repercussions can be imagedined. The energies of magic are those of life itself."

What he is saying is that it is taboo this is not the only person who says this there are thousands more if not millions. The point is you have ben misslead. to beleave

the wrong way. Wicca is of pure good energy. -Nuff Sayed.

[Neopagan2007]

Again, your opinion.

[Neopagan2007]

I am doing very well. I have cursed people in the past when I felt it was absolutely necessary and I have suffered no ill effects. In fact I have prospered greatly. I guess the Three Fold Law passed me by.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

I aso Like Living Wicca -

Scott Cunningham

Wicca in the Kitchen -

Scott CunningHam

[Neopagan2007]

Doreen Valiente: "I don't believe this stuff about the threefold return, you know. I've always been very skeptical about that" ... "old Gerald cooked it up in one of his rituals, and people took it terribly literally. Personally, I've always been skeptical about it because it doesn't seem to me to make sense. I don't see why there has to be one special law of karma for Witches and a different one for everybody else. I don't buy that. But there's an awful lot of things I don't buy."

[spiritualdevinepagan]

As far as history goes

THE MEANING OF

WITCHCRAFT

By

G. B. GARDNER

[Neopagan2007]

"Then, of course, there was the village wise-woman with her cures and curses"

Again, Gardner took peoples' measure when they joined his coven. You can't get passed that.

[Neopagan2007]

Also, as far as history, witches have always cured and cursed. Did you know curses can be used to cure people? I bet not. You are so narrow in your thinking that it is sad. I suspect that you have never stepped back and actually examined what you believe. I see no insite or independent thinking in anything you say.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

Contenued - "The Repercussions can be imagedined. The energies of ,agic are those of life itself."

Scott Cunningham

Wicca, a Guide for the Solitary Practitioner

[spiritualdevinepagan]

"This is Important-magic is a positive practice. Wiccans don't preform destructive, manipulative or expolotive magic. Becasue they are taboo "Evil" magic is an insult to themselves, to human race, to Earth, The god and Goddess and the universe itself"

Scott Cunningham

Wicca, a Guide for the Solitary Practitioner -Contenue

[Neopagan2007]

Yet the founder of Wicca cursed and many covens of older traditions take your measure. Scott Cunningham has been dead for a long time. We do not know what his opinion would be today.

[doctordeepee]

gee so has garner ,but does that really stop us from talking to them? And todays Wiccan's follow what I and most I know of call fluffy white stuff and that dont include negative anything you can fix a problem by enhancing and improving but you know this you were taught this you spoke of it in this video although you may be wiccan in belief you are practicing much more than mainstream wiccans today and by the way i thought the measures were given freely with consent just my thoughts

[spiritualdevinepagan]

:) I agree Hexing was not the issue The bad energy you use does efect you you may not see it now but sooner or later you will. The teachings from treacher to teacher may have all difrent kinds of teaching on the subject. all paths follow the rule of three. each in there own ways. I disagree with you I have read some books that warn you about following such paths and they to say its not a true form of wicca. I will put up a qote in my next post.

[Neopagan2007]

The three fold law is bunk. There is a cause and effect and I stated that you could curse but only as a last resort. If the Law of Three it is true then give your entire paycheck to charity and wait for it to return to you tripled. You will be waiting a long time.

[cortezstreasure]

grow it long :)

[RivaWitch]

Great video!!!

[Malandanti]

5* good video

[spiritualdevinepagan]

thrue spell craft chant or curses, hexes

Correction in this part of my post thanks

[spiritualdevinepagan]

Bother I am not saying your path is wrong or how you should follow that path. only you can do that and know what path you take. I wish you blessings and a clear thoughts. Altho I dissagree I am not bashing your way of thinking but only try to bring to light what was learned age by age.

Rave

[Neopagan2007]

My background in witchcraft goes beyond Wicca. Wicca is what I practice now. I know how things work. Thank you.

[ShoryoTombo]

OMG you explained it better about hexes and curses. Glad you did because I totally agree with you that there is a difference.

Also, loooove your altar. I found a cute little statue at a yard sale. I so want you to have it. It had your name written all over it. I'll show you on the VR I'm recording tonight.

Blessed Be!

[Neopagan2007]

Thanks!

[DeliaDoes119903]

...i would watch you talk for fifty minutes....

[Neopagan2007]

Thanks...

[DeliaDoes119903]

I totally meant that in a non...creepy way...haha!

[spiritualdevinepagan]

thrue spell craft chant or curses hexes are wrong altho some follow the rule of three some do not. it is a heay price to pay and a path that will not lead you to the devine of nature is not opinion but laws and you would know this if you had studdy the wiccan path.

[Neopagan2007]

Again, your opinion.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

History - How far are you refering back in history to what date do you hold this knolage to be true? If you are refering to christian history then it is a bloody path of barberic sinceless violence. who ever tought you you could curse and use negitive energy in Wiccan to harm another

[Neopagan2007]

The history of witchcraft. It seems to me that you have not done any serious study. Let's see... Strega, Vodoo, Hoodoo, Santaria, Powwow... shall I go on? Wicca is a new religion. The ones I have mentioned are much older and do curse. Learn before you speak.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

I again dissagree

I have seen this same passage say 3 times bad and 3 times good. Eather way it reminds you my friend of the rule of three. But it doesw in fact say Less Thy Defence it be Always Mind The rule of three. If you will study this you will find it to be true. Ask other pagans in the comunity they too understand the rule of theee.

[Neopagan2007]

Do you even know the origin of the Wiccan Rede? I have studied it and I have been a witch for a very long time and have yet to ever see the rule of three manifest; either good or bad.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

forbidin in wiccan teachings. This goes agaenst the laws of nature. The gods do not like this and there will be a heavy price to pay for such actions.

[Neopagan2007]

History does not prove you correct.

[spiritualdevinepagan]

I disagree if you cause harm to anyone you break the rule of three. Karma is not something to take negitive intention can and will come back on you. I beleave as the Rede Says : In less in thy own defence it be always mind the rule of three. All negitive teachings are forbidin in wiccan teachings.

[Neopagan2007]

That is your opinion. Also, the original Rede does not say anything about self defence so you are already of track.

[1010bree]

they also used planetary sigils in hexagons hence hex

[loumil4]

this word of hex isn't so much about math, this version of hex comes from language. Die Hexen (the witches). Hex can therefore be assumed in English to mean witchcraft.

[verenateddybear]

You should totally let your hair grow dude =)

kisses from brazil!

blessed be!

[lordofthepies7]

magic is a spitual thing, the thing is if it is spititual as opposed to the ego why should the spirit car about the mundane stuff that will be nothing but dust in millions of years when magic ect exist in beyond boundrys of time?

[Neopagan2007]

If that were the case then magic should never work for mundane purposes and we know it does. The trick is to not let your ego dictate what you do. Many times we want something because our ego tells us we deserve it or should have it even if it doesnt server our true will/higher purpose or our greater good. Separating what is true need from ego can be difficult.

[lordofthepies7]

true i forgot i read in a book that the universe is not a thing but a process.

[loumil4]

General Comment: and I focused my video in this way as well neopagan. Hex from is same as Hexen or Hexe (Proper die hexe) means exactly as you said magic/witchcraft as die hexe means the witch(es). It is Germanic in root.

[Libra13Witch]

Awesome altar! Thanks for the VR as well. I guess I should make a video to go along with my Hex/Curse video letting everyone know where I stand on the subject.

[MacMorrighan]

Great points! Can't believe I've never thought of the Measure-Taking before. :oP But, it makes a great deal of sense, obviously.

Personally, aside from acting physically, I fully intend to brew a Binding Potion on Maggie Gallagher, who is trying to strip American citizens of their civil rights!

[wakingribbons]

what a beautiful altar you have :) and thanks for posting this. those who are new to their paths need to hear this.

[DreamingBearHeathen]

Great video Neo. Hope all is well with you and yours!!!

[PaganSteve]

I like your hair short

[PaganSteve]

Great video man VERY informative as always

[MsSophiaDawn]

Well said Neo. I totally agree.

I for one would like to hear or read your thoughts on the love and light /balance thing. I thought about doing a video similar, but can't quite get my thoughts on the subject worked out properly...yeah it can be a touchy subject for some.

Oh and I think your hair would look very nice grown out a little (heck it looks nice now!)

BB

[TheWellofMimir]

I'm glad you brought up the meaning of Hex. I thought about I but I decided not too..

[TheWellofMimir]

oh and they still take your measure. I know that other Trads do as well.. In fact My old HPS still has mine.which is kinda scary.. lol.