anyone who believes that nothing went bang and life came from non living meterials is in denial and is willing to do anything to get God out of the picture. the fact is building=builder, painting=painter, and creation demands a creator. God exists and pleading evolution will not get rid of Him repent turn from your sin and put your trust in Jesus Christ to escape from the teriffying wrath to come.
Comfort: "This is real good news for people like me. It means I don't have to become an expert on the fossil record and it also means I don't have to learn words like Rhinorhondothackasaurus."
1) There was no need or reason for him to 'become an expert on the fossil record'.
2) Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it disappear.
3) Insisting that "God did it!" and relying on a book as flawed as the Bible is absurd.
Macro evolution is observable testable fact Human chromosome 2, Matching endogenous retro-viral sequences between the grate apes and humans, recessive genes, tail muscle in humans, Progressive patterns in comparative genes, Junk DNA, Single strain DNA.+multiple dating methods that agree with each other with an extremely low % margin of error proving the earth is old enough for the time needed for macro change and Ring species nylon eating bacteria.
We DID NOT evolve from apes you GIANT DUMBASS!!!!!! Of course you don't have to become an expert in the basic principles of evolutionary theory, because stupidity and ignorance are your only weapons! I don't know if I can take any more idiot creationists spreading lies and fucking with people's heads.
fuck !! that airplane analogy is the most retarded thing I have EVER heard!!!!! this guys should be atheist commediants !!! jajajajaja fucking idiots..
he believes the airplane is there by chance!!!! xD , more than imbecils these guys are so hypocrate, thats may be the worts of them ,,,
ok this is the WORST part of religion. just because you dont believe in it or dont follow the ten commandments as said in the video.. means you will go to hell. but if you SAVE your self.. its suddenly ok. why is it ok to get out of things? you should pay for what you have done. being kind to other people and treating everyone equally is good enough to go to this so called heaven
I just want to know: Are Ray and Kirk truly ignorant to the theory of evolution, unintentionally lying to their viewers, or do they know how evolution works and willfully deceive in order to convert people to Christianity? In either case, can you imagine if Jesus was here now, in their shoes? He'd either by lying in order to convert people to see things his way, or he'd simply be an ignorant loud mouth spreading his stupid doctrine. It's sad on all accounts. Such as waste of life.
jesus would want people to treat others equally.. not look down on them because they are different. so this video confuses me. jesus wouldnt want people to be awful then be able to fix everything.
@elgilicious I disagree, they should be kept on the air so sensible people can laugh at them at expose their lies, fraud, quote mining and worst of all, ignorance of all the evidence.
@andy4226uk I enjoy laughing that them, too, but because stupid people outnumber smart people, every moment they're on the air is a chance for them to sway yet more people with their rhetoric.
very true. it could be a combination of both. for example... like how over time we have made the computer better and better. someday.. we might be able to make robots that think for them selves. this might be what happened. whatever created us, gained more knowledge over time, and created different species, as we have with computers.. or air plains.. anything really. but unfortunately.. we may never know whos right and whos wrong... we certainly dont konw now... so its not worth fighting over
but, they clam they do know,stoping science since galileo by the way "thanks"religion ¬¬, and they say their go is perfect,the bible is true, and they dont have ideas they can randomly chose or move,they have dogmas, which they distortion by the way,and thanks tho knowledge we can tell those dogmas to fuck of, the danger is when they get to ignorant people, like this clowns,and it IS woth fighting for , remember the olocaust?templairs?oscurantism? inquistition?that religion shit is dangerous
Man there has to be laws against this stuff! They have a book with quotes (QUOTE MINED) from charles darwin and other famous scientists disproving evolution?
Honestly man... these guys are testing my faith in me beleiving I shouldn't kill people... they're actually destroying my faith, not building it
no body knows for sure if there is a god or not. it's safe to beileve just in case. and i am proud to say i'm a believer. have you ever seen a spieces form another entire different spieces? dogs will be dogs, birds will be birds and everything after it's kind. saying we came from monkey's is like saying 100 years from now cats will evolve into a humanoid form. there is such thing as micrro evolution. Dogs change over time in breeds but they are still dogs.
macroevolution is just alot of microevolution. in fact micro and macro evolution are creationist terms and have little place in the scientific community.
You don't beleive in evolution but you beleive in the talking snake, adam and eve, the virgin birth, heaven and hell, parting of the sea, god killing thousands of people, satan, a man living inside of a fish... and speciation has been observed many times. Ironically, Kirk showed a banana that 'proved' god exhisted when infact that banana was a banana that had speciated from the wild banana after selective breeding.
people created the bible to teach morals and lessons... not necessarily to talk about what happened. god was created to justify peoples actions. the virgin birth wasnt really a virgin birth.. she just said it was god so she wouldnt get in trouble. many stories in the bible are there to teach us lessons. believing in god does mean what people think. it means to believe in goodness and doing the right thing. im so upset they even try to make this work because they have no proof!
jlm325; what answered are you displeased with about the bible and what question do you have?Btw, religion and fantasies are useless illusions,the bible is true and that is a good thing, I know very much about the bible so ask me anything and I will answer in the best of my ability,it will be obvious to you when you finally learn all the scientific and logial facts in the bible that the bible is true, but you will still the most important question"what do I have to do?" and that is obvious too.
i lie, so that makes me a liar; i have look upon a woman with lust, so that makes me an adulterer at heart; i have used the lord, god's name in vain, so that makes me blasphemous. My fate? I will perish in hell if i don't repent. hhahahaha. all this from an all powerful and all knowing god. lol. sounds like a movie plot or a video game.
Now that we've convinced all of you dimwitted simpletons that evolution isn't true by interviewing a bunch of random schmos on the street, buy our book. Jesus wants you to buy our book. Our book is important. Praise Jesus.
I'm sorry, did that former child actor pretending to be a scientist just say "circumnavigate the intellect"? You people do realize that 'circumnavigate' literally means GO AROUND, right? In other words, he's saying "Don't think."
Then again, we already knew that's the creationist's MO.
Anyway, okay, he says "speak to the conscience, circumnavigate the intellect, and evolution is not there." Well no shit, so why do all these idiot creationists keep telling me that evolution is a religion and that I have faith in it? Evolution is a scientific theory based on factual evidence, it has nothing to do with "conscience". Kirk is just stating the obvious, that evolution = logical, creationism = appeal to emotion.
I hope what you mean by that is they attack straw men, which all creationists do. You can make any position look stupid when you purposefully misrepresent it.
Sure do. Creationists do a great deal for education ironically beacause they attack the kind of "popular misconceptions" that many people have about evolution. Therefore, by tearing down such misconceptions and making people realise how ignorant they are, they educate.
Are you basing that on what the two men in the video said in the beginning of the full video? Maybe they are just afraid that some logic will reach the viewers?
Can only convince somone that they will be judged if they belive that will happen and you have to belive in god circular reasoning. Doesn't equate to their plane analogy
that girl in the begining is pretty! but i guess i just commited 'adultary' in my heart right ray? ha! i'm not married. and in video one they claim lucy and alllll those others are fakes when only piltdown man is a fake! how dare they lie?! that's in the 10 commandments!
the bible is 10x more sexist and racist than evolution. dumb fuck christian fuck ass. fucking hate when they say religion has science in it. dumb fucks.
Tolerant of ideas that aren't hateful. The same can be said of people who are "tolerant" of multiculturalism, but not tolerant of racist bigots. This is not hypocrisy, it's morality. If morality is food, religion is food poisoning.
like discerning said. i dont care if you want to believe that when you die you go to heaven or that some guy made everyone in one day. the problem I have is that theists cant let us teach facts and truths to kids. Its the irrational religious following that makes me comment like this. For example i feel comfortable saying "God pisses in his own mouth while masterbating to homosexual porn." those are just words nothing happens to me when i say them. plus profanity is bullshit anyways.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)-How is the bible racist or sexist.That does not sound sexist to me.
damn bible fag got me. so "I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]
that statement is niether sexist or racist, but if you want to belief adolph was just a writer you may. dont nit pick your bullshit and try to think i will believe it. jesus, god both are fucking fake and used to control people dont use the bible to prove the bibles innocence or i will use it to impeach it.
I've seen so many of these things, and they have some of the worst analogies I've ever seen. And they end every interview with those pathetic questions! Those things don't make you a sinner, they make you human. A deity wouldn't give us the capacity to sin if he hated it so much.
Hahaha. Yeah. I loved how there at the end, they cut off that Tony guy before he could prove the guy wrong.
"Imundying," only if you believe the Bible does it mean that you won't go to heaven if you are only a good person. It's only because of the Bible that people think you need to believe that Jesus saved you.
I don't believe in the Bible, but I know that if there is a Heaven, I'll be going there.
I know that I will go to Heaven because I am a good person. I have no idea what will happen to rapists and and murderers. I don't really believe in a Hell, so I don't know what will happen. I'm not even sure if I believe in a Heaven. I'm just saying that if there is one, I'll be there, without Jesus.
so basicaly you beleive in something you dont even know is true and you are sure your going there but you still have no idea that heaven is even real so how can you be sure that your going there
Okay, thank you so much for twisting my words. I said that IF Heaven exists, I would go there, not because I believe all the hocus pocus about Christianity, but rather because I have been the kind of person God would want there. I do not necessarily believe in Heaven. You do not know for fact that Jesus is the only way to Heaven, but you still believe it. Why would my beliefs be any different?
actually i know that jesus is the only way to heaven and the Bible says that God can not even look upon sin the Bible also says that everybody has sinned so if everybody has sinned and God cant look at sin then i personaly dont think that God would want you there if he cant even look at you
All of this is only valid if the Bible is 100% accurate. I do not believe it is, so your ideas are useless here. Why is the Bible "100% true"? Because it says it is. And why is that true? Because it says it is! Circles!!!
scientist have proven there actually was a flood that coverd the earth scientist have proven Jesus existed the Bible talks about speaking in other tounges as the spirit impowers well guess what i have been given the gift of speaking in tounges and i know plenty other people that do to do you need me to go on? now prove to me its not 100% true
Where is your source for this "proof" of a world-wide flood? I personally believe what most scientists can agree on, that there was a flood very long ago, when most of the human population was in generally the same place. Jesus exists only in the Bible and Roman/Greek/Arabian texts. It's a very limited amount that Jesus is mentioned outside of the Bible until a few centuries after his death. Now, as far as speaking in tongues, the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 12:4-11:
"4There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men. 7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit,
9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines."
Speaking in tongues does not automatically mean that you are filled with some kind of spirit. My older sister can speak in tongues. She got this when she was dating her old boyfriend who was Pentecostal, and she is now not at all Christian-like, yet she can still speak in tongues. Yes, I would very much like you to go on, as all of your points are fallible.
As far as the Bible not being true, consider how much it contradicts itself. I'm not even going to get into how much the Old and New Testaments contradict each other, but rather, I'll talk about a little of both. The Old Testament tells you "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13), and later tells you "Do not allow a sorceress to live" in Exodus 22:18. This is the same BOOK of the Bible contradicting itself. Now, to the New Testament....
According to Matthew 2:23 and 13:54-55, Jesus came from Galilee. But John 4:43-44 states that he was from Judea. According to Matthew 2:1, Jesus was born in the days of Herod, and according to Luke 2:1-7, Jesus was born thirteen years later when Cyrenius was governor of Syria. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke both give the lineage of Jesus, but Luke has fifteen more names than Matthew does, and twenty-five of the other names differ between the two Gospels.
There also remains the fact that there are no historical records of Jesus outside of the Bible until A. D. 93, when Josephus stated that Jesus was the founder of a religious sect.
So you see, even Jesus' own disciples couldn't agree on the dates and historicity of Jesus. How can the Bible be correct about all of these things at once?? They completely outright contradict each other.
And there's just a taste of some fallacies in the Bible, so it is clearly not 100% accurate or true. In order to be completely, 100% right, it cannot contradict itself.
God or no god... creation to me is a process of design, refining, improving, chance, trial and error and circomstances. Doesn't matter if it's in nature, art, software developtment or the car industry.
To create something and get it PERFECT the first time seems totally unlogical to me...
Name one thing in the world that NEVER got improved or redesigned...
I found it extremely funny they say and I quote: "The Theory of Evolution is unscientific. It is based on blind faith."
Tell me. What is religion? Religion and science sure seem to condradict eachother quite a bit. Hmmm. Please prove to me God exists. Oh, wait, what was that? You can't? Must be blind faith.
Okay. See. Heres the thing. I prolly know more about your religion than you do. And what makes you think I don't believe in God? I do. I just choose to practice my beliefs my own way. I don't need to go to church to know how to live my life according to what is right and wrong in God's eyes. But there is no physical proof God exists. Just faith. Much like people have faith in evolution, as this video says.
ok so since you claim you know God have you ever felt his presence because i dont think you have cuz if you had you would know god is real... oh and being a christian is not a religion
Um. I believe in god.. I said so in the post you just commented on, retard. And being a Christian.. Is being part of the Christian religion... So I have no idea whats going on in your head.
tell me does going to a christian church make you a christian no it doesnt its having a relationship with Jesus Christ that makes us a christian so abviously you have never felt Gods presence.
You have no idea what I've gone through or anything about my life, so drop the "Holy'er than thou" attitude and the "You have never felt God's presence." crap. Going to a Christian church. Makes you part of that church's congrogation. Which makes you a Christian. Next time you try to think you're better than someone else... And use words to prove it. Do yourself a favor, and don't.
i dont think im better than you im just trying to tell you that being a christian is much more than going to church and acting like a good person you cant go to heaven by being a good person or by just simply going to church and i really hope you will listen to me
"almost every evolutionist i talk to on here contridicts each other with what they have to say"
As said: you don't HAVE to believe anyone here. Evolution, as a science, requires you to be critical: check different sources, in a library for instance.
However, I happen to have a few questions for you, couldn't find the answer in the library (or the Bible):
Most creationists are entirely ignorant of even the basic assertions of natural selection which explains the vapid "why are there still apes?" question. Using the corollary Jews-to-Christians question is a good way to help them understand the answer. So tell us: why are there still Jews?
I don't think they've actually tried that gravity argument on a commercial airline. It might make someone wish they could jump out, but that's about it.
"so tell me if we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys around hmmm how bout that"
Monkeys (apes) and humans descend from a common ancester. Somewhere along the line our ancestors split off from the branch and developed into humans, whereas the monkey's ancestors developed into the primates we now know. But don't believe me, just visit a library.
imundying, it seems you are avoiding the subject.
If you believe God created man, you MUST have a reasonable explanation for the fact that God created man with an imperfect eye, the ability to have goosebumps without any benefit, and the males with nipples which don't have any use. If you don't have an explanation for this I suggest you rethink your beliefs.
Or.. the fact that you require a simple answer makes you shut your eyes to the truth.... What i mean to say is... IT's easy to beleive "god created it all".. instead of actually looking deeper into things...
I'm sorry i don't mean to question your beliefs... Aww fuck it, I'm a dick. : )
I wonder if these guys really believe this crap. It's hard to imagine that someone with the intelligence to speak English and to dress himself would really think this way.
Who's William Huxley? Does he mean Thomas Henry Huxley or his grandson, Sir Julian Huxley? (or maybe Julian's brother, Aldous Huxley, or their cousin the Nobel Prize winner Andrew Huxley). If it was any of those, it must have been taken out of context, as they habitually and dishonestly do.
"It is not based on facts"? There is a MOUNTAIN of facts. But here are ones you can see: cats, lions, leopards etc dogs, wolves, foxes etc horses, donkeys, zebras etc lemons, oranges, etc carrots, parsnips, etc They are related, OK? Now cats, dogs, hyaenas lizards and snakes whales dolphins seals more distantly related Then look into a chimpanzee's eyes (and see how she looks back into yours), look at her hands and feet and try to deny that we're related too.
Are these two a spoof? I only ask as most schoolkids would be able to dispose of these bozo's arguments. If they tried this schtick on someone who actually understood biology I suspect it wouldn't make the final edit. You want examples of transitional forms? Shall we start with a mudskipper?
the name of the scientist is John clayton the fact is is that eveolution is just a thoery oh did you know that darwin before he died admitted to making evolution up and that it was totaly wrong
That is a well-documented lie, but it wouldn't matter if he had, because science doesn't depend on appeals to authority but to the facts. The facts now support evolution in ways Darwin could never have dreamed of (eg molecular genetics).
And "just a theory"? So is gravity. Creationism doesn't even reach the status of "hypothesis". It's a "wild conjecture".
I suspect you're referring to the now completely discredited Lady Hope story? Darwin didn't recant on his deathbed, and about 5 minutes research should be able to show you that. Please don't lie on this forum, even if you think it's true. Check before spouting off misinformation. Someone might actually belive your ridiculous statments. It's how religions get started you know.
God dammit, you're dumb. Where's your evidence that Darwin admitted he "made it up" as if making an entire scientific model up is even fucking possible? Dipshit.
That creationist lie was disproved over 100 years ago and you morons still think it's true. But hey, the lie makes you feel good, so you're going to try to keep it alive as much as possible.
actuaaly it would be possible because even to this day we have no facts to prove that evolution even exists... and also all of us creationist dont controdict each other i have talked to many evolutionist and the all controdict eah other on different things.
No, it is not possible. Unlike religious people, scientists don't just take the word of other scientists as gospel because their story sounds cute. They actually demand evidence for their claims. If there was no evidence for darwin's claims, nobody would care about them, not then, not now. You obviously don't have a clue how science works, so why the hell are you trying to act as if you're an authority on it? "no facts" says the 17-year-old scientist. LOL
Stop with the blasphemy. Don't you know you're heeping judgment on yourself?
The Lord will not hold hom guiltless who misuses His name.
You wouldn't appreciate if I used your mother's name as a cuss word, yet you can use the Holy name of the God who gave you life to express disgust. Please think about that
I love this. Here we have another "morally righteous" christian who thinks using cuss words is a much larger sin than lying in the name of his own god. If only we could rid the world of cuss words and critical thinking, what a wonderful paradise this would be (for you simple-minded fools anyway).
Maybe it isn't me, but your fellow christians who you should be preaching morality to, since they need it more than I do.
most people who profess to belong to Christ don't. Jesus said that. You won't be measured by hyporcitical Christians, and there are many. You will be measured by God's Perfect Moral Law. Please concern yourself with your condition before God. Don't look around you. Everyone will have their day with God. May God Bless you
Who ever said that my goal was to get you mad? My goal was to help you realize how foolish it is tho believe that killing somebody is just as bad as saying a word.
Me foolish?... I'm not the smartest person in the world, even the smartest person in the world is some what ignorant. But you obviously don't understand how lethal words can be! Words can be more violent than physical harn itself! Oh my gosh may not seem harmful but that doesn't make it right. For some reason us Humans can't do anything with out ranking something or labeling it!
Everybody's different! I bet you can't tell me that you have ever felt down because of something someone said. If you loved someone with all your heart and one day they decided to tell you that they don't share the same feelings for you anymore and they never want to say your face again that you'd be totaly fine with that and you wouldn't care! Not only that some people are more sensitive to words than others! There was a girl who hung her self because her friends mom was herasing her to see...
i'm not saying that you're wrong, i was just pointing out something i've always heard. kinda like religion, we always hear about God and christianity and all that and over time, it becomes a norm. By the time you get to your late twenties, going to church and believing in a God becomes second nature. By that time, we don't have to give it much thought. That's somewhat like the phrase I pointed out. (continued)
we've heard it before, but it just doesn't apply to us, personally in our lives. so of us don't give it thought and agree, but you didn't, and that was good. It showed that you can think for yourself, on matters that hurt you or not, and not just something a bunch of guys dreamt up and called philosophy (the phrase). Then why not apply that way of thinking to religion?
Because the funny thing is, if your god exists, I KNOW I'm going to hell when I die. It's you christian fundamentalists who are deluded into thinking your lies and slander and fanaticism will grant you a position there.
Hey, thanks for responding so quickly. I don't know what you're talking about. As a Christian, I am far from righteous, I fall way short of God's standard of righteousness (perfection). Even the apostle Paul said he was the "chief of sinners". The reason I became a Christian is because I KNOW I'm NOT good, not because I thought I was good.
Because of our wicked works, we are enemies of God. The cross is proof that in spite of your rebellion against Him, He still desires to forgive you. You have great value to God. The only reason I'm going to Heaven is because of what Christ did for me. I have the rest of my life here to express my gratitude. I can't earn any favour from Him, He's already accomplished the payment for my sin. He paid the price for you too. I pray that you would repent and live the rest of your life to glorify him.
fact is is that evolutionist cant explain how the earth even got here hence they dont really know wether monkeys or humans were even around first. a scientist did a study and he found that the chances of there being a planet with life form by accident is 15 billion times less likely than if you were to jump out of an airplane at 10000 feet with no parachute and surviving
Are you serious? That isn't even a cohesive thought. Oh and evolution isn't trying to explain how earth got here. That's left to astronomers and astrophysicists. Can you name the scientist that did this "study"? Apparently besides undying, your also unlearning. Well that implies that you learned at some point and it's fairly obvious that you never started.
Oh shit i need to get an evidence bible for a good laugh
ezelouie 21 hours ago
anyone who believes that nothing went bang and life came from non living meterials is in denial and is willing to do anything to get God out of the picture. the fact is building=builder, painting=painter, and creation demands a creator. God exists and pleading evolution will not get rid of Him repent turn from your sin and put your trust in Jesus Christ to escape from the teriffying wrath to come.
mamainmancj 4 days ago
Comfort: "This is real good news for people like me. It means I don't have to become an expert on the fossil record and it also means I don't have to learn words like Rhinorhondothackasaurus."
1) There was no need or reason for him to 'become an expert on the fossil record'.
2) Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it disappear.
3) Insisting that "God did it!" and relying on a book as flawed as the Bible is absurd.
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TheMrgoku1985 3 months ago
We DID NOT evolve from apes you GIANT DUMBASS!!!!!! Of course you don't have to become an expert in the basic principles of evolutionary theory, because stupidity and ignorance are your only weapons! I don't know if I can take any more idiot creationists spreading lies and fucking with people's heads.
Braveanglo 5 months ago
@Braveanglo Apes or ape ancestors, same stupid difference!
SoldierOfChrist110 4 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 You know, just from that statement I know you're a lost cause and a complete idiot. Have fun with that.
Braveanglo 4 months ago
I feel dumber for having watched this.
SukkaPunch321 6 months ago
As soon as he talks to somebody with any reasonable qualification, note how he tries to talk over them and edits out half of their answer?
Seriously dishonest.
Cowardice, misrepresentation and outright lies.
This is what Jesus preached, is it?
StateOfTheEnemy 7 months ago
"circumnavigate the intellect", YESSS!! thank you kirk! you explained faith right there.
shadowsheik8611 10 months ago 2
The answer to the first question : DNA you ignorant fool..
Stevoukos 11 months ago
"If you circumnavigate the intellect, evolution seems to disappear"
Circumnavigate(v.)- to bypass or go around
SuperJasontheman 1 year ago
Retardation has no limits
94jmcorrea 1 year ago 2
he takes people off the street and uses them to represent the intellegent athiests with research and reason
jimbeen1771 2 years ago
And if telling a lie makes you a liar, does telling the truth make you honest?
emma9o7 2 years ago 2
I have noticed in all these videos the molecular evidence is never discussed.
which is missing a BIG part of the argument.
emma9o7 2 years ago 4
The most important lesson we learn here, is that Kirk Cameron is a wiener.
And I don't care who created the wiener.
leavingjupiter 2 years ago 4
fuck !! that airplane analogy is the most retarded thing I have EVER heard!!!!! this guys should be atheist commediants !!! jajajajaja fucking idiots..
he believes the airplane is there by chance!!!! xD , more than imbecils these guys are so hypocrate, thats may be the worts of them ,,,
zerstorenx 2 years ago 2
ok this is the WORST part of religion. just because you dont believe in it or dont follow the ten commandments as said in the video.. means you will go to hell. but if you SAVE your self.. its suddenly ok. why is it ok to get out of things? you should pay for what you have done. being kind to other people and treating everyone equally is good enough to go to this so called heaven
jlm325 2 years ago
well,..one day,..EVERYONE will know the truth ,...eventually
USNavyman09 3 years ago
The evidence bible "is packed full of tools." So is The Way of the Master.
worldsworstjukebox 3 years ago
Correction: Such "a" waste of life.
worldsworstjukebox 3 years ago
I just want to know: Are Ray and Kirk truly ignorant to the theory of evolution, unintentionally lying to their viewers, or do they know how evolution works and willfully deceive in order to convert people to Christianity? In either case, can you imagine if Jesus was here now, in their shoes? He'd either by lying in order to convert people to see things his way, or he'd simply be an ignorant loud mouth spreading his stupid doctrine. It's sad on all accounts. Such as waste of life.
worldsworstjukebox 3 years ago 2
jesus would want people to treat others equally.. not look down on them because they are different. so this video confuses me. jesus wouldnt want people to be awful then be able to fix everything.
jlm325 2 years ago
This is so sad. People like them should be taken off the air.
elgilicious 3 years ago 7
@elgilicious I disagree, they should be kept on the air so sensible people can laugh at them at expose their lies, fraud, quote mining and worst of all, ignorance of all the evidence.
andy4226uk 1 year ago
@andy4226uk I enjoy laughing that them, too, but because stupid people outnumber smart people, every moment they're on the air is a chance for them to sway yet more people with their rhetoric.
elgilicious 1 year ago
gods image could be interpreted in so many ways......that doesnt mean we couldnt evolve
PoliticalStu 3 years ago
very true. it could be a combination of both. for example... like how over time we have made the computer better and better. someday.. we might be able to make robots that think for them selves. this might be what happened. whatever created us, gained more knowledge over time, and created different species, as we have with computers.. or air plains.. anything really. but unfortunately.. we may never know whos right and whos wrong... we certainly dont konw now... so its not worth fighting over
jlm325 2 years ago
but, they clam they do know,stoping science since galileo by the way "thanks"religion ¬¬, and they say their go is perfect,the bible is true, and they dont have ideas they can randomly chose or move,they have dogmas, which they distortion by the way,and thanks tho knowledge we can tell those dogmas to fuck of, the danger is when they get to ignorant people, like this clowns,and it IS woth fighting for , remember the olocaust?templairs?oscurantism? inquistition?that religion shit is dangerous
zerstorenx 2 years ago
Man there has to be laws against this stuff! They have a book with quotes (QUOTE MINED) from charles darwin and other famous scientists disproving evolution?
Honestly man... these guys are testing my faith in me beleiving I shouldn't kill people... they're actually destroying my faith, not building it
TheBiddleMan 3 years ago 2
no body knows for sure if there is a god or not. it's safe to beileve just in case. and i am proud to say i'm a believer. have you ever seen a spieces form another entire different spieces? dogs will be dogs, birds will be birds and everything after it's kind. saying we came from monkey's is like saying 100 years from now cats will evolve into a humanoid form. there is such thing as micrro evolution. Dogs change over time in breeds but they are still dogs.
theGoodguyChuck82 3 years ago
macroevolution is just alot of microevolution. in fact micro and macro evolution are creationist terms and have little place in the scientific community.
mojorhythm 3 years ago 3
You don't beleive in evolution but you beleive in the talking snake, adam and eve, the virgin birth, heaven and hell, parting of the sea, god killing thousands of people, satan, a man living inside of a fish... and speciation has been observed many times. Ironically, Kirk showed a banana that 'proved' god exhisted when infact that banana was a banana that had speciated from the wild banana after selective breeding.
TheBiddleMan 3 years ago 2
people created the bible to teach morals and lessons... not necessarily to talk about what happened. god was created to justify peoples actions. the virgin birth wasnt really a virgin birth.. she just said it was god so she wouldnt get in trouble. many stories in the bible are there to teach us lessons. believing in god does mean what people think. it means to believe in goodness and doing the right thing. im so upset they even try to make this work because they have no proof!
jlm325 2 years ago
jlm325; what answered are you displeased with about the bible and what question do you have?Btw, religion and fantasies are useless illusions,the bible is true and that is a good thing, I know very much about the bible so ask me anything and I will answer in the best of my ability,it will be obvious to you when you finally learn all the scientific and logial facts in the bible that the bible is true, but you will still the most important question"what do I have to do?" and that is obvious too.
MrBlahOfTheFire 2 years ago
wtf?
pienipaha 3 years ago
it's been two fucking months since anyone's watched this vid, until today.
nlytend1 3 years ago
i lie, so that makes me a liar; i have look upon a woman with lust, so that makes me an adulterer at heart; i have used the lord, god's name in vain, so that makes me blasphemous. My fate? I will perish in hell if i don't repent. hhahahaha. all this from an all powerful and all knowing god. lol. sounds like a movie plot or a video game.
nlytend1 3 years ago
no it happened before all that stuff
wfl18 3 years ago
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pizzathehutt47 3 years ago
Now that we've convinced all of you dimwitted simpletons that evolution isn't true by interviewing a bunch of random schmos on the street, buy our book. Jesus wants you to buy our book. Our book is important. Praise Jesus.
Microlink1980 3 years ago
why do they keep comparing evolution to man made objects? WHY??
Kaimosae 3 years ago
HAHA! Scare people into believing something. Priceless.
RichoRosai 3 years ago 2
god said that we must kill disobediant teenagers !! YUK I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN
headhead9 4 years ago
I'm sorry, did that former child actor pretending to be a scientist just say "circumnavigate the intellect"? You people do realize that 'circumnavigate' literally means GO AROUND, right? In other words, he's saying "Don't think."
Then again, we already knew that's the creationist's MO.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
Anyway, okay, he says "speak to the conscience, circumnavigate the intellect, and evolution is not there." Well no shit, so why do all these idiot creationists keep telling me that evolution is a religion and that I have faith in it? Evolution is a scientific theory based on factual evidence, it has nothing to do with "conscience". Kirk is just stating the obvious, that evolution = logical, creationism = appeal to emotion.
Hey imundying, there's one contradiction for you.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
Even IF evolution is not true, how does that make Christianity true?
Harpakhrad11 4 years ago 3
They have a lot of good points, beacause they attack the popular misconceptions about evolution.
cliffracerslayer 4 years ago
I hope what you mean by that is they attack straw men, which all creationists do. You can make any position look stupid when you purposefully misrepresent it.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
Sure do. Creationists do a great deal for education ironically beacause they attack the kind of "popular misconceptions" that many people have about evolution. Therefore, by tearing down such misconceptions and making people realise how ignorant they are, they educate.
cliffracerslayer 4 years ago
arse
NicePurse 4 years ago
haha Kirk Cameron is such a dipshit. He should be ashamed of himself.
SmirkingRevenge99 4 years ago 4
He's much like an infant in relation to his logic.
fergmasterflex 4 years ago 3
It's ok fergmasterflex....you dont have to try so hard to sound educated...you can just talk like the rest of us....normally.
BlondieTris 4 years ago
Let me rephrase. Kirk Cameron is either batshit insane, or mentally retarded.
fergmasterflex 4 years ago
It just too obvious that God is real.
LindsayDilegan 4 years ago
If God is real, then what are the chances he's on the side of creationist liars?
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
So they finally interview a person with authority to speak of evolution and they cut him off right away... Hmmm...
hhgj87 4 years ago
maybe he didn't have the answers? oh wait but then again most scientists are like that.
samuraizkd 4 years ago
Are you basing that on what the two men in the video said in the beginning of the full video? Maybe they are just afraid that some logic will reach the viewers?
hhgj87 4 years ago
You should check out the debate they had with a couple of expert atheists and even richard dawkins was present, its pretty cool.
samuraizkd 4 years ago
I'd love to. Do you have the name of the video?
hhgj87 4 years ago
way of the master vs rational response
samuraizkd 4 years ago
Thank you.
hhgj87 4 years ago 2
no prob
samuraizkd 4 years ago 2
"maybe he didn't have the answers? oh wait but then again most scientists are like that."
Well if scientists don't know anything then why do you turn to THEM when you have an illness? Asshole.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
Can only convince somone that they will be judged if they belive that will happen and you have to belive in god circular reasoning. Doesn't equate to their plane analogy
lafleuc 4 years ago
that girl in the begining is pretty! but i guess i just commited 'adultary' in my heart right ray? ha! i'm not married. and in video one they claim lucy and alllll those others are fakes when only piltdown man is a fake! how dare they lie?! that's in the 10 commandments!
oddjob29 4 years ago
calling a girl pretty isnt lust. thinking 'man, i'd f*** her' is lust.
jacobshiver 4 years ago
you misinterpreted the commandment so I wouldn't laugh genius.
samuraizkd 4 years ago
the bible is 10x more sexist and racist than evolution. dumb fuck christian fuck ass. fucking hate when they say religion has science in it. dumb fucks.
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
okay if atheists are so "tolerant" then why did you post that message or care for that matter.
Templae123 4 years ago
Tolerant of ideas that aren't hateful. The same can be said of people who are "tolerant" of multiculturalism, but not tolerant of racist bigots. This is not hypocrisy, it's morality. If morality is food, religion is food poisoning.
thediscerningreader 4 years ago
like discerning said. i dont care if you want to believe that when you die you go to heaven or that some guy made everyone in one day. the problem I have is that theists cant let us teach facts and truths to kids. Its the irrational religious following that makes me comment like this. For example i feel comfortable saying "God pisses in his own mouth while masterbating to homosexual porn." those are just words nothing happens to me when i say them. plus profanity is bullshit anyways.
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)-How is the bible racist or sexist.That does not sound sexist to me.
facilisdescenus 4 years ago
damn bible fag got me. so "I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]
that statement is niether sexist or racist, but if you want to belief adolph was just a writer you may. dont nit pick your bullshit and try to think i will believe it. jesus, god both are fucking fake and used to control people dont use the bible to prove the bibles innocence or i will use it to impeach it.
conkertheevilsquirre 4 years ago
Way of the Master and The Evidence Bible! Buy it now and get your very own free vial of holy water! PLUNDGER YE SINS MATEY!
Possums pretend to be dead.. does that mean they're lying to the preditor? Are they gunna go to hell?! ARE THERE NO POSSUMS IN HEVEAN!
...I agree with Nank000. And i really despise how offensive he was in the last clip..
"Have you lied! HAve you stolen! Have you looked at a woman lustfully! REPENT OR YOU'RE GOING TO HELL YOUNG MAN!"
beyonka10 4 years ago
Note they didn't give the doctor a chance to explain things...
And it's kinda revealing they're like "Go around logic!"
USSManhattan 4 years ago
I've seen so many of these things, and they have some of the worst analogies I've ever seen. And they end every interview with those pathetic questions! Those things don't make you a sinner, they make you human. A deity wouldn't give us the capacity to sin if he hated it so much.
MakeAFist 4 years ago
Hahaha. Yeah. I loved how there at the end, they cut off that Tony guy before he could prove the guy wrong.
"Imundying," only if you believe the Bible does it mean that you won't go to heaven if you are only a good person. It's only because of the Bible that people think you need to believe that Jesus saved you.
I don't believe in the Bible, but I know that if there is a Heaven, I'll be going there.
estel4me 4 years ago
and how do you know that? will a murderer go to heaven ? how about a sex offender?
imundying 4 years ago
I know that I will go to Heaven because I am a good person. I have no idea what will happen to rapists and and murderers. I don't really believe in a Hell, so I don't know what will happen. I'm not even sure if I believe in a Heaven. I'm just saying that if there is one, I'll be there, without Jesus.
estel4me 4 years ago
so basicaly you beleive in something you dont even know is true and you are sure your going there but you still have no idea that heaven is even real so how can you be sure that your going there
imundying 4 years ago
Okay, thank you so much for twisting my words. I said that IF Heaven exists, I would go there, not because I believe all the hocus pocus about Christianity, but rather because I have been the kind of person God would want there. I do not necessarily believe in Heaven. You do not know for fact that Jesus is the only way to Heaven, but you still believe it. Why would my beliefs be any different?
estel4me 4 years ago
actually i know that jesus is the only way to heaven and the Bible says that God can not even look upon sin the Bible also says that everybody has sinned so if everybody has sinned and God cant look at sin then i personaly dont think that God would want you there if he cant even look at you
imundying 4 years ago
All of this is only valid if the Bible is 100% accurate. I do not believe it is, so your ideas are useless here. Why is the Bible "100% true"? Because it says it is. And why is that true? Because it says it is! Circles!!!
estel4me 4 years ago
well the bible is 100% true if you dont think it is then prove that to me
imundying 4 years ago
Prove to me that it IS 100% true.
estel4me 4 years ago
scientist have proven there actually was a flood that coverd the earth scientist have proven Jesus existed the Bible talks about speaking in other tounges as the spirit impowers well guess what i have been given the gift of speaking in tounges and i know plenty other people that do to do you need me to go on? now prove to me its not 100% true
imundying 4 years ago
This is in a lot of posts.
Where is your source for this "proof" of a world-wide flood? I personally believe what most scientists can agree on, that there was a flood very long ago, when most of the human population was in generally the same place. Jesus exists only in the Bible and Roman/Greek/Arabian texts. It's a very limited amount that Jesus is mentioned outside of the Bible until a few centuries after his death. Now, as far as speaking in tongues, the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 12:4-11:
estel4me 4 years ago
"4There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men. 7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit,
estel4me 4 years ago
9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines."
estel4me 4 years ago
Speaking in tongues does not automatically mean that you are filled with some kind of spirit. My older sister can speak in tongues. She got this when she was dating her old boyfriend who was Pentecostal, and she is now not at all Christian-like, yet she can still speak in tongues. Yes, I would very much like you to go on, as all of your points are fallible.
estel4me 4 years ago
The human mind can do astonishing things...even fool itself.
Chimpdaddy 4 years ago
I know what you mean, thats why atheists are lost.
samuraizkd 4 years ago
Or believing in talking donkeys and snakes.
Chimpdaddy 4 years ago
aww.. come on! atheists aren't that dumb.
samuraizkd 4 years ago 2
As far as the Bible not being true, consider how much it contradicts itself. I'm not even going to get into how much the Old and New Testaments contradict each other, but rather, I'll talk about a little of both. The Old Testament tells you "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13), and later tells you "Do not allow a sorceress to live" in Exodus 22:18. This is the same BOOK of the Bible contradicting itself. Now, to the New Testament....
estel4me 4 years ago
According to Matthew 2:23 and 13:54-55, Jesus came from Galilee. But John 4:43-44 states that he was from Judea. According to Matthew 2:1, Jesus was born in the days of Herod, and according to Luke 2:1-7, Jesus was born thirteen years later when Cyrenius was governor of Syria. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke both give the lineage of Jesus, but Luke has fifteen more names than Matthew does, and twenty-five of the other names differ between the two Gospels.
estel4me 4 years ago
Don't forget, the can't even agree on who Joseph's father was.
Chimpdaddy 4 years ago
There also remains the fact that there are no historical records of Jesus outside of the Bible until A. D. 93, when Josephus stated that Jesus was the founder of a religious sect.
So you see, even Jesus' own disciples couldn't agree on the dates and historicity of Jesus. How can the Bible be correct about all of these things at once?? They completely outright contradict each other.
estel4me 4 years ago
And there's just a taste of some fallacies in the Bible, so it is clearly not 100% accurate or true. In order to be completely, 100% right, it cannot contradict itself.
estel4me 4 years ago
your comment doesn't make any sense.
samuraizkd 4 years ago
Did he really say you should try to circumnavigate the intellect! LOL. He sure does time and time again especially when he pretends to know science.
ricko1111 4 years ago
God or no god... creation to me is a process of design, refining, improving, chance, trial and error and circomstances. Doesn't matter if it's in nature, art, software developtment or the car industry.
To create something and get it PERFECT the first time seems totally unlogical to me...
Name one thing in the world that NEVER got improved or redesigned...
Nank000 4 years ago
I found it extremely funny they say and I quote: "The Theory of Evolution is unscientific. It is based on blind faith."
Tell me. What is religion? Religion and science sure seem to condradict eachother quite a bit. Hmmm. Please prove to me God exists. Oh, wait, what was that? You can't? Must be blind faith.
drkvallik 4 years ago
i cant because you would not understand until you have actually known god
imundying 4 years ago
Okay. See. Heres the thing. I prolly know more about your religion than you do. And what makes you think I don't believe in God? I do. I just choose to practice my beliefs my own way. I don't need to go to church to know how to live my life according to what is right and wrong in God's eyes. But there is no physical proof God exists. Just faith. Much like people have faith in evolution, as this video says.
drkvallik 4 years ago
ok so since you claim you know God have you ever felt his presence because i dont think you have cuz if you had you would know god is real... oh and being a christian is not a religion
imundying 4 years ago
Um. I believe in god.. I said so in the post you just commented on, retard. And being a Christian.. Is being part of the Christian religion... So I have no idea whats going on in your head.
drkvallik 4 years ago
tell me does going to a christian church make you a christian no it doesnt its having a relationship with Jesus Christ that makes us a christian so abviously you have never felt Gods presence.
imundying 4 years ago
You have no idea what I've gone through or anything about my life, so drop the "Holy'er than thou" attitude and the "You have never felt God's presence." crap. Going to a Christian church. Makes you part of that church's congrogation. Which makes you a Christian. Next time you try to think you're better than someone else... And use words to prove it. Do yourself a favor, and don't.
drkvallik 4 years ago
i dont think im better than you im just trying to tell you that being a christian is much more than going to church and acting like a good person you cant go to heaven by being a good person or by just simply going to church and i really hope you will listen to me
imundying 4 years ago
almost every evolutionist i talk to on here contridicts each other with what they have to say
imundying 4 years ago
"almost every evolutionist i talk to on here contridicts each other with what they have to say"
As said: you don't HAVE to believe anyone here. Evolution, as a science, requires you to be critical: check different sources, in a library for instance.
However, I happen to have a few questions for you, couldn't find the answer in the library (or the Bible):
- Why do people get goosebumps?
- Why has the human eye a blind spot?
- Why have males nipples?
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
those questions dont even need an answer thats why you cant find an answer it really does not matter that those things are
imundying 4 years ago
"those questions dont even need an answer thats why you cant find an answer it really does not matter that those things are"
For you, these questions SHOULD matter as they prove evolution right and creationism wrong. Or, could it be you just don't have an answer?
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
how does it prove creation wrong because monkies have nipples thats intirely wrong
imundying 4 years ago
Most creationists are entirely ignorant of even the basic assertions of natural selection which explains the vapid "why are there still apes?" question. Using the corollary Jews-to-Christians question is a good way to help them understand the answer. So tell us: why are there still Jews?
farinosa 4 years ago
"almost every evolutionist i talk to on here contridicts each other with what they have to say"
Then why don't you try talking to a SCIENTIST, dummy? It shouldn't be that hard, since scientists, NOT creationists, know what evolution actually is.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
So if Christianity arose from Judaism. Why are there still Jews around? (I think some Christians are working on that "problem").
farinosa 4 years ago
I don't think they've actually tried that gravity argument on a commercial airline. It might make someone wish they could jump out, but that's about it.
JiveDadson 4 years ago
so tell me if we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys around hmmm how bout that
imundying 4 years ago
"so tell me if we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys around hmmm how bout that"
Monkeys (apes) and humans descend from a common ancester. Somewhere along the line our ancestors split off from the branch and developed into humans, whereas the monkey's ancestors developed into the primates we now know. But don't believe me, just visit a library.
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
well where did those "ancestors" come from then
imundying 4 years ago
"well where did those "ancestors" come from then"
Evolved into a separate branch of mammals. Have you hit the library yet?
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
""so tell me if we came from monkeys why are there still monkeys around hmmm how bout that""
Different monkeys.
JiveDadson 4 years ago
well then why didnt those monkeys evolve
imundying 4 years ago
Why didn't some Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah?
farinosa 4 years ago
because they thought he would come from a very powerful line but the fact that he came as a simple carpenter made them shut there eyes to the truth
imundying 4 years ago
imundying, it seems you are avoiding the subject.
If you believe God created man, you MUST have a reasonable explanation for the fact that God created man with an imperfect eye, the ability to have goosebumps without any benefit, and the males with nipples which don't have any use. If you don't have an explanation for this I suggest you rethink your beliefs.
pioerghaozprhgorueir 4 years ago
tell me this do guys have hormones of course thats why we have nipples.... so tell me why i should not beleive in God when i know he is real
imundying 4 years ago
Or.. the fact that you require a simple answer makes you shut your eyes to the truth.... What i mean to say is... IT's easy to beleive "god created it all".. instead of actually looking deeper into things...
I'm sorry i don't mean to question your beliefs... Aww fuck it, I'm a dick. : )
beyonka10 4 years ago
I wonder if these guys really believe this crap. It's hard to imagine that someone with the intelligence to speak English and to dress himself would really think this way.
ImagineAZ 4 years ago
Who's William Huxley? Does he mean Thomas Henry Huxley or his grandson, Sir Julian Huxley? (or maybe Julian's brother, Aldous Huxley, or their cousin the Nobel Prize winner Andrew Huxley). If it was any of those, it must have been taken out of context, as they habitually and dishonestly do.
Hugh7777 4 years ago
Hugh7777 4 years ago
Are these two a spoof? I only ask as most schoolkids would be able to dispose of these bozo's arguments. If they tried this schtick on someone who actually understood biology I suspect it wouldn't make the final edit. You want examples of transitional forms? Shall we start with a mudskipper?
sub19732001 4 years ago
the name of the scientist is John clayton the fact is is that eveolution is just a thoery oh did you know that darwin before he died admitted to making evolution up and that it was totaly wrong
imundying 4 years ago
That is a well-documented lie, but it wouldn't matter if he had, because science doesn't depend on appeals to authority but to the facts. The facts now support evolution in ways Darwin could never have dreamed of (eg molecular genetics).
And "just a theory"? So is gravity. Creationism doesn't even reach the status of "hypothesis". It's a "wild conjecture".
Hugh7777 4 years ago
I suspect you're referring to the now completely discredited Lady Hope story? Darwin didn't recant on his deathbed, and about 5 minutes research should be able to show you that. Please don't lie on this forum, even if you think it's true. Check before spouting off misinformation. Someone might actually belive your ridiculous statments. It's how religions get started you know.
sub19732001 4 years ago
God dammit, you're dumb. Where's your evidence that Darwin admitted he "made it up" as if making an entire scientific model up is even fucking possible? Dipshit.
That creationist lie was disproved over 100 years ago and you morons still think it's true. But hey, the lie makes you feel good, so you're going to try to keep it alive as much as possible.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
actuaaly it would be possible because even to this day we have no facts to prove that evolution even exists... and also all of us creationist dont controdict each other i have talked to many evolutionist and the all controdict eah other on different things.
imundying 4 years ago
No, it is not possible. Unlike religious people, scientists don't just take the word of other scientists as gospel because their story sounds cute. They actually demand evidence for their claims. If there was no evidence for darwin's claims, nobody would care about them, not then, not now. You obviously don't have a clue how science works, so why the hell are you trying to act as if you're an authority on it? "no facts" says the 17-year-old scientist. LOL
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
Stop with the blasphemy. Don't you know you're heeping judgment on yourself?
The Lord will not hold hom guiltless who misuses His name.
You wouldn't appreciate if I used your mother's name as a cuss word, yet you can use the Holy name of the God who gave you life to express disgust. Please think about that
RyanASinclair 4 years ago
I love this. Here we have another "morally righteous" christian who thinks using cuss words is a much larger sin than lying in the name of his own god. If only we could rid the world of cuss words and critical thinking, what a wonderful paradise this would be (for you simple-minded fools anyway).
Maybe it isn't me, but your fellow christians who you should be preaching morality to, since they need it more than I do.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
most people who profess to belong to Christ don't. Jesus said that. You won't be measured by hyporcitical Christians, and there are many. You will be measured by God's Perfect Moral Law. Please concern yourself with your condition before God. Don't look around you. Everyone will have their day with God. May God Bless you
RyanASinclair 4 years ago
"If only we could rid the world of cuss words, what a wonderful paradise this would be"
I totally agree ;-)
doctorh2005 4 years ago
Hey a sins a sin. God doesn't rank sin. They're all of equal value to him. They're all just as bad as the next!
OfficialGodfans 3 years ago
So saying, "oh my god," is just as bad as killing somebody. Good to know.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
yah but that doesn't mean that murder is still okay!
OfficialGodfans 3 years ago
That's... dumb. I was mocking your beliefs by comparing two totally unlike things that your religion views as being the same.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
That sounds like a personal problem to me LOL! If you think someone mocking christianity is gonna get me mad well then your obviously mistaken!
OfficialGodfans 3 years ago
Who ever said that my goal was to get you mad? My goal was to help you realize how foolish it is tho believe that killing somebody is just as bad as saying a word.
jambalaya54321 3 years ago
Me foolish?... I'm not the smartest person in the world, even the smartest person in the world is some what ignorant. But you obviously don't understand how lethal words can be! Words can be more violent than physical harn itself! Oh my gosh may not seem harmful but that doesn't make it right. For some reason us Humans can't do anything with out ranking something or labeling it!
OfficialGodfans 3 years ago
haven't you ever heard of the phrase "sticks and bones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."
nlytend1 3 years ago
Everybody's different! I bet you can't tell me that you have ever felt down because of something someone said. If you loved someone with all your heart and one day they decided to tell you that they don't share the same feelings for you anymore and they never want to say your face again that you'd be totaly fine with that and you wouldn't care! Not only that some people are more sensitive to words than others! There was a girl who hung her self because her friends mom was herasing her to see...
OfficialGodfans 3 years ago
if that girl was saying things about her daughter.
OfficialGodfans 3 years ago
i'm not saying that you're wrong, i was just pointing out something i've always heard. kinda like religion, we always hear about God and christianity and all that and over time, it becomes a norm. By the time you get to your late twenties, going to church and believing in a God becomes second nature. By that time, we don't have to give it much thought. That's somewhat like the phrase I pointed out. (continued)
nlytend1 3 years ago
(continued)
we've heard it before, but it just doesn't apply to us, personally in our lives. so of us don't give it thought and agree, but you didn't, and that was good. It showed that you can think for yourself, on matters that hurt you or not, and not just something a bunch of guys dreamt up and called philosophy (the phrase). Then why not apply that way of thinking to religion?
nlytend1 3 years ago
Because the funny thing is, if your god exists, I KNOW I'm going to hell when I die. It's you christian fundamentalists who are deluded into thinking your lies and slander and fanaticism will grant you a position there.
wayofthemasturbator 4 years ago
Hey, thanks for responding so quickly. I don't know what you're talking about. As a Christian, I am far from righteous, I fall way short of God's standard of righteousness (perfection). Even the apostle Paul said he was the "chief of sinners". The reason I became a Christian is because I KNOW I'm NOT good, not because I thought I was good.
RyanASinclair 4 years ago
Because of our wicked works, we are enemies of God. The cross is proof that in spite of your rebellion against Him, He still desires to forgive you. You have great value to God. The only reason I'm going to Heaven is because of what Christ did for me. I have the rest of my life here to express my gratitude. I can't earn any favour from Him, He's already accomplished the payment for my sin. He paid the price for you too. I pray that you would repent and live the rest of your life to glorify him.
RyanASinclair 4 years ago
Kirk Cameron: "When you learn how to speak to a person's conscience and circumnavigate the intellect...."
Translation: "When you learn to appeal to a person's emotions and to bypass their intellect...."
ImagineAZ 4 years ago
Tell me this is a spoof.
shashi13m 4 years ago
fact is is that evolutionist cant explain how the earth even got here hence they dont really know wether monkeys or humans were even around first. a scientist did a study and he found that the chances of there being a planet with life form by accident is 15 billion times less likely than if you were to jump out of an airplane at 10000 feet with no parachute and surviving
imundying 4 years ago
Are you serious? That isn't even a cohesive thought. Oh and evolution isn't trying to explain how earth got here. That's left to astronomers and astrophysicists. Can you name the scientist that did this "study"? Apparently besides undying, your also unlearning. Well that implies that you learned at some point and it's fairly obvious that you never started.
kingnick1 4 years ago