Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 14 of 18

[cyco2kill]

By things that modern technology allows us to do, our collective consciousness has lowered entropy. Uniting the whole world - I guess - in some goals, helps lowering entropy.

I think that individual knowledge and freedom is really important, but we have to remember that we live in a society and only together can we evolve

[tatsumakisempyukaku]

I have to disagree here. I would say there is no end point from our perspective, but at the macro level the work has always been done. I say this because you get into these infinite regressions of which r contradictory. So I think consciousness is an actual infinite state from which we are a portion trying to go back to the source

[websoull]

Can anyone please answer this question, I cannot find the answer anywhere...

Does Buddhism forbid Astral projection? is it demonic?

[BFDK]

@websoull

No and no.

[twcjr44]

@TranshumanCyborg,

If an entity has even a single choice that it can decide to make on not make, it is sentient and has a point of view no matter how tiny. If a clam can learn more effective ways or approaches to mate or find food in its changing environment, then it has a point of view. An intellect, as we think of it, is not required. Memory and processing may exist at the cellular level as well as in a brain.

[twcjr44]

@TranshumanCyborg,

Yes. The key is to forgive yourself. Learn and go on.

[HigherPlanes]

Any theory on how the system came into being?

[twcjr44]

@HigherPlanes,

There is a discussion of this in the books -- can't do much with it in 500 characters or less. Speculation only and some bounding possibilities.

[websoull]

where does free will come from?

awareness is fundemental but what about free will?

awareness is just an observer...I don't think free will is explained well in the presentation..or maybe I missed it...

[twcjr44]

@websoull,

You are right, I did not explain it well -- that video represents a quick top-level lecture. In book 2, in a chapter called "Mind, Brain, and Body," there is a derivation of free will. In short, free will is shown to be a logical necessity for an evolving consciousness. In other words, consciousness and free will are logically necessary for each other to exist.

Tom

Tom

[acuaman42]

In order to understand what Mr. Campbell tries to explain in 18 videos with lots of contradictions, I suggest you better see Chuck Hillig, THE MEANING OF LIFE, in youtube, and with that you will understand everything in just 13 minutes. Save your time.

[variance9]

This is very hard to comprehend, anyone who can say they understand it clearly doesn't. How is entropy measured in places that don't even contain energy? I guess it's like saying my past exists when i think about it. If my consciousness dies, nothing is thinking of my past to make it exist. Past is like dependent subset on present and visa versa. Though Past can exist without present, assuming there was once a present. But how do you start a new present without having a past.

[twcjr44]

I am afraid you are a tad confused. The books (free on Google books) would help clear things up. Entropy is a measure of disorder -- it is used all the time in information theory -- it is not always dependent on energy. The past exists in a database and is not dependent on your thoughts. To the contrary, It is all together independent of you.

[variance9]

As subsets evolve can they then colide, overlap, have a life expectancy? If so perhaps our physical reality could collapse and terminate.

[twcjr44]

Collide, no. Overlap (sometimes support and sometimes interfere with each other), yes in the sense that under some generally controlled conditions beings can move between different reality frames. When a reality frame (subset) is no longer useful to the evolution, growth, or maintenance of the system, I strongly suspect that it would be deleted so the resources it consumes could be used more productively elsewhere.

[variance9]

"Perhaps fear is a natural way to protect the non-willing from interpreting spirit's incomming data." -sf

[variance9]

I should have ended that with a question mark implying does that agree with your studies?

[variance9]

If there are lower level entropy subsets within the overall consciousness, far lower than Thomas Campbells, why do they not make themselves known in our physical reality and teach us the big picture. Why do we have to stumble upon it ourselves and make our presence known in their subset? Or does that only happen in the everything that could have happened database?

[twcjr44]

Because evolution is not an intellectual process. To evolve, you must change yourself at the being level, at the core -- and you must do this by applying your free will intent to your personal experience. Growing up is something you must do yourself, nobody can do it for you or teach you how. You must make your own choices and learn from them. Giving you some idea of which end is up and encouragement go forth and grow up is about all that can be done.

[variance9]

You have said you have been an observer of other subsets, (just streaming data), then you have gone one step further and been a voice in someones head/mind (manipulating some one elses input data in their reality). If the entrophy of the receiver is to high would they not be able to hear you, so to speak? (ie. Not aware of all the input bits available to them). I myself am more in tune with the input information that my physical body can detect, thus i have never heard voices in my head.

[twcjr44]

If the entropy of the receiver is to high would they not be able to hear you, so to speak?

Yes. Or, if there are beliefs to the contrary, they might hear me and interpret my message as coming from their own intuition or inner voice.

[Burdell22000]

Hello Tom!

Thank you for your lecture and for making it possible for us to watch it on YouTube.

I´d like to ask: how is it possible that you say that thought and meditation lower entropy?? Isn´t meditation absence of thought? And if so, then thinking wouldn´t be lowering entropy but creating it, no matter how organized it is, it will always be less ordered that the glucose stock up and waiting to be used I think.

And thank you for reading, have a nice day

[twcjr44]

Thought and meditation are both tools that can be used to lower entropy or increase it. Thought expressing fear and ego seldom leads to entropy reduction. When one has become love, one is still aware and can think -- meditation does not make you a zombie. Because almost all of our thoughts (often all the thoughts most of us are aware of) are an expression of our fear and ego, we assume that all thought must represent higher entropy states. Love is aware, and awareness requires thought.

[3gyptianFlo]

this is pure Islam =)

[sharoninfla]

So Tom....How many people have the experience you speak of? How many truly understand (what you're saying) through their own experience? I have yet to meet one single person...in person.

I've been this way since I was five years old. They just didn't 'get me' in kindergarten...lol

Thanks for the validation....;)

[samann95014]

Brilliant! Associating physics with subjective experience ... other work I love is Jungian.

[mads18]

I'm wondering if I'm one of the ones de-evolving, ahahah :P

[blibblob2]

Also, the entropy analogy is tenuous at best. To say that the conscious was striving for *anything* preordained would be to say free-will does not exist.

I liked the first half of your talk immensely but then when you started talking about visiting locals of other realities i just saw way too many flaws.

[twcjr44]

Consciousness as it first evolved did not strive for a particular or specific outcome. Evolution is not an intellectual process. It is a natural process that moves in the direction of "profitability" for a self changing system. All successful evolutionary processes can be reduced to entropy reduction at their most fundamental level. Do you think that animal life on earth was struggling for anything in particular in its evolution? So far, the flaws you see are generated by your assumptions.

[blibblob2]

You kind of lost me as an audience when you started talking about going to other realities.

The obvious reason being this: If your conscious was to leave your brain here (your brain being part of this material world) then you would no longer have any memories from this world. Similarly you would have no memories of these other worlds if you returned here after going to them, because any memory you created there would remain in that reality.

[twcjr44]

Your assumption about memory is wrong. Memory does not belong to just the brain -- or to the reality where the experience takes place. Memory belongs more fundamentally to consciousness which contains all the memories from all experiences of the consciousness in all reality frames and all time periods. Bodies come and go, consciousness persists. The PMR physical brain simply represents that part of the consciousness dataset that is currently engaged with PMR

[vtrlsantos]

some jerk reflexes like the one you said is not conscient. our knee jerk reflex is not a decision made by our consciouness. how do you know if all our decisions are not just reflexes like it and we dont actually have free-will?

[MokoszVive]

A reflex IS a decision at a biological level, it's just autonomous, or as psychologists would say, automatic, which you could also call unconscious. From neuroscience we know that awareness actually comes after information processing: in other words, you brain lets you know only a select part of information it processes, and it happens to be a very small part of it. 95% of our central nervous system's processing does not reach our 'concsious' awareness.

[aalam0044]

EXTREMELY ENLIGHTENING. Thank you very much

[mycophiliac]

Brilliant lecture! I'm stunned with amazement.

[Xandria1111]

Marvellous! My kind a man.