Sometimes you just got to love contrarian's comments...they always make up insensible opinions that is against you; regardless of how something is truly considered thought provoking, just so that they can get noticed by others.
Then again; contrarian or not; you're one butthurt troll; freezingfire810. Take a chilly pill and go fuck yourself, please.
I don't understand if the theseus paradox can be related to the laughing man. Is he full cyrberbrain? If he is then I understand, but was it ever revealed or is this an assumption?
@DavidYeshiwas It's kind of the same thing. The paradox asks whether or not something can retain its individuality and originiality if you replace all of its parts. The Laughing Man phenomenon takes it a step further and asks whether there was ever an original something in the first place, be it object or idea. In this case, there was never an actual Laughing Man who was at the forefront of the terrorism.....just a bunch of unrelated events that happened to related at the core.
They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life. Everybody'd think I was just a poor deaf-mute bastard and they'd leave me alone.
I figured I could get a job at a filling station somewhere, putting gas and oil in people's cars. I didn't care what kind of job it was, though. Just so people didn't know me and I didn't know anybody. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddam stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something, they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me.
So if a Stand Alone Complex is pretty much something that exists without existing, as he put it, a copy without an origin... Would humanity be considered a stand alone complex... In theory we were formed of something imaginary, an idea... And we mass reproduce over and over... But when you come down to it... There is no original... Unless you would consider the biblical Legend "Adam" as the original...
@Mog90044 There is an origin to humanity, but it is not biblical. All creatures on this planet are biologically related. The first creature, a single celled organism, would be the original.
are you seriously citing that pseudo philosopher Jean Beaudrillard? Is it because you've heard about him in the matrix movies and his hyperprose "blew your mind"? Listen kids, just because something sounds super complicated doesn't make it "deep" or "thought provoking".
@freezingfire810 no it doesn't have to be so, but if it makes someone stop and actually think for a moment. Well then maybe it has done some of its job. Hence the idea of Philosophy, simply to make one think what if.?
@freezingfire810 It makes them think. Pseudo philosopher or not, that fact it makes them think and not just shout profanities at each other all day online isn't all bad. So old man, why so mad?
@freezingfire810 depends what you take from one person to spark your interest...everything has a deep meaning..just depends how far your own personal meaning goes.
@freezingfire810 is there something you can contribute that provokes thought, or anything thats deep? Serious questions, I'm guessing you connected the dots and found the answer to where all other information is "obsolete"
Does this mean that "flipping the bird" is a kind of S.A.C.? The original idea was it to represent the penis (and to some degree sexual intercourse) but over time the gesture has developed into a symbol of defiance, despise, etc. Something not directly tied to the original symbol that has became an emotion or statement.
@itchi777 Flipping the bird came as an act of defiance, when french soldiers (cross bowmen) were told by the enemy that there trigger finger (middle finger) would be cut off if they were captured. It was to show the enemy forces that we still have our trigger fingers and we are still fighting against you. In the modern day it has changed into a sexual meaning, or that of anger. Not so much of defiance. I forget the name of the battle and war where it began.
@Perigrine85 Actually "flipping the bird" dates back to ancient greece and rome. We know it dates back to ancient Greece, at least, where it was referenced in "The Clouds," a play written by Aristophanes in 423 B.C. It was also well known to the Romans, who referred to it variously as digitus infamis ("infamous finger") and digitus impudicus ("indecent finger"). In all likelihood its origins were prehistoric.
Somehow, I'm reminded of some of the things said by Egon Spengler in episode Knock Knock. You'll may want to think it over a bit too. Anyways, I really did enjoy this video about the stand Alone Complex.
@devilmanother As far as it covering all the known stuff spoken of... it is to me only a starting point in the understanding anyways. really a part two explaining the Individual Eleven and how that all works works and all that would be a useful sequel here
i consider myself to be pretty intelligent but ive seen this series twice and i still dont get all of it. will reading catcher in the rye give me another view on this?
for the record the full laughing man quote is taken form an unknown philosifer that starts i saw and injustice in the world and my eforts will do nothing to stop it so i thort what i would do is pretend to be one of those deaf mutes then atleast my ears are closed to it and i cant complain
I really like what your doing but I wish you could have explained it more in depth but bravo. Its about time that some one started really explaining to people about the Stand Alone Complex. Hopefully there will be videos like this in the future very soon that will start influencing people to ring some bells on certain issues that need to be resolved in this world and actualy do something about it.
@vicious986 The series makes frequent reference to the Catcher in the Rye - the Laughing man's logo is surrounded by a quote from the book : "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes"
oh wow, Ron Paul eh? someone's done their homework, everyone research that man extensively if you don't mind, then vote for him in 2012 if you live in the US and want this country turned around and corruption exposed and deterred from it's current successful path, federal reserve might actually fall if you elect him, again, research research research
@MrSkate4weed Or maybe an entire uprising in the U.S. of no less than 3 million people and they create there own country rid of corruption and rid of corporate influence on politicians but yet be able to trade freely with any country.
@1Laughingman a country like that would not be allowed to exist, we would be forced to interact with the US somehow and eventually be controlled by it, there's no way, even if 3 million people branched off, to start a new country, the wills of the owners of this country would be imposed upon the new nation and become the U.S.'s branch, it's impossible without an entire turn around, this includes Europe and Asia, if we want a just world we must overthrow and replace what we have now... Zeitgeist
@1Laughingman Before you go leading a revolution or trying to change the world, start with something simple, like the difference between 'there' and 'their'.
The analogies used in this series I found rather inadequate. It beats around the bush with abstract philosophy rather than the more "concrete speculation" (excuse the oxymoron) that it is a science fiction's job to do. The rise of cyberisation is highly likely, IMHO, to cause individuals to be absorbed into a faceless mush.
I hate Motoko in the TV series'. i hate her because shes unstoppable and invincible and no one or thing can stop her.
The movie Motoko is far superior, her emotion, her demeanor, her view of the world, her weakness, her insecurity, and just her as a whole. You love Motoko in the film and can relate to her while in the series she is not relateable at all.
@Colton5 I agree with you about Motoko but I also think GITS series are overally much worse than movies. Movies were focused on cyberpunk atmoshpere and meaning of being human while series are basically generic criminal stories you've seen many times. Notice the difference in the ways how the world was portrayed - in the movie the city is grey, dirty and overpopulated while in the series it's pretty and green with flashy skyscrapers everywhere. It's obvious series were made for younger audience.
This is actually not really the whole idea.... and it's more identified as the Laughing Man series because the secod-gig is also SAC, Stand Alone Complex. There were stand alone episodes that dealt with seperate episodes and complex involved the main episodes. The series has much more of a philosophy than that, no offense. But thanks for some of this information.
@XDeathXSS Yeah there are other elements to the series, I just really like this whole Stand Alone Complex theory in an applied setting. I love matching the theory to some of the modern socio-political issues and watching the similarities fly around.
If its for criticism and education, then why the hell didn't this fall under fair use? The bastards!!! Its a crazy conspiracy! The Gmen are trying to turn our minds to jello!!!!!OMG!
Glad to see this one got its audio back. The chat between the Major and The Laughing Man is a major part of this vid. Was a shame to have been missing that for so long.
I can keep asking questions, but my individualism tells I'm not really interested in being occupationally optimistic, I wish I wish I wish, theres scrubs in this degenerate generation of new era, and theres people like me right?,or am I being too selfish,either way that leads to the Game Theory,who wants success more? nobody, life is being born and then dying, sex is a distraction that keeps forcing new people to be born,but the are simply idiots being born,no discipline has allot to do with it.
Thanks for posting this! Maybe the person writing f*ck you under our noses is physical reality itself. The failure of government + technology to solve more problems than they create is part of the failure of physical reality itself, but blaming the government, media and technology protects our faith in physical life and guards our belief in the possibilty of a utopian world.
that is a great thought of statement and a great a opinion,technology is man's creation,scrubs think "Man created technology,and it will kill man",man kills man behind that statement anyways,technology is a enjoyable distraction, we are all blind, we are fooled into thinking we have "dreams",dreams are memory's of what we want and desire,there is no silver lining to someone's life,even if they were fed with a silver spoon,rich humans are satisfied,their jealous of the poor man's ambition to rise
I have absolutely no idea what the point of the conversation between Kusanagi and Aoi is about. They seem to skip from point to point without any logical direction. I'm so confused, can anyone help me here? What the the gist of what the two are discussing?
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this series is just a copy of the gits films and it's not even a good one! fucking cheap! the films are way better watch one of those and understand the real nature of a good anime...
Yes, with the overpropogation of memes that the Internet has made possible, a Stand Alone Complex might be possible. In fact, it has already happened with Project Chanology, a worldwide protest against the Church of Scientology organized by the collective Internet community Anonymous.
someone needs to point out, again, that the Church as-is (or as-is commonly punted to appear as; which indeed may be how it's run internally) has nothing to do with the real Ron Hubbard anyway. it's the usual - someone/s else controls it 'in the name of' another person whose ideas it's based around. what that means is that the actual underlying conspiracies remain un-noticed; it's just smokescreens to mask what actually happened / is taking place.
Not everything has been "transcribed" to the net. Will you eventually believe what you see or are told rather than what you "experience"? Touch, taste, smell, feel?
those senses can be falsified the extent of human knowledge will always remain in the phenominal realm, you will never be able to reach the numinal realm through reason or understanding either therefor reality becomes merely the things themselves rather than the things in themselves. Kant frickin ends this discussion. As for a thesus paradox well if it's all phenominal there can be be no discernment between the original and the copy if the copy is identical in meaning.
Also the series deals with this in the second season when Pazu (I think that's who it was) fights his doppelganger (a spurned ex lover) and one of them is killed but the team can't figure out which one and no one seems to care.
I have to agree with Lihinel. If you know anything about science/reality is that in order for something to be complex, simpler mechanisms must have made the complex object, system, or being.
If it was for kids, then you would be able to spell the word correctly. Also, on the surface, the ideals don't seem too in-depth. However if you were to actually THINK about them you would see that they're quite perverse.
Grownups don't pursue power, adolescents do; not kids. It's something that occurs when society fails to deal properly with hormones. To do useful work requires it be thought thru fully beforehand. It's a little like skepticism except it isn't closed, at least tries to consider all angles and possibilities, and the conclusion isn't arrived at before the tests are done. Great series but I hate dubbing.
What cathegorie would I put it in? Gee I donth knof, the phiirst one you shaid or the shecond one. Oh philosophy alone doesn't get you far - d'you think maybe that's why I wrote exactly that in the comment you replied to. I knew you were a total douchebag when I read your bs comment here. I just had to tell such a twat what a twat they are, cause apparently you're actually unaware of it.
Muppet, BEFORE doing experiments you think things through - otherwise how can you possibly design a means of finding anything out that is going to measure all relevant variables. How can you make sure you don't waste time and energy on dupes.
You need a mind to design and build the computer, and to run it and program it. You really shouldn't have Jupiter on your avatar as it's the planet of knowing relevant things. I mean come on, your post here is trying to claim you are cool for ignoring thinking - you're a troll. You try to make it seem like science and arts are separate = psychotic divide & conquer bs. It's a sad method used to stifle proper thinking of 'both' camps so their brain hemispheres don't fire across.
I only said Philosophy ALONE doesn't get you very far. (In terms of usefull, falsified knowledge)
I also stated that you don't need a mind to create complex systems/ come up with solutions to problems. (See any biological system)
And you don't need to build a computer to do computation. For example: Use a stone, left to free fall, to compute the gradient of any given gravitational field.
Wrong, you don't have to be what someone else is to know what they are. You can't compute anything about the stone or whatever else if you don't have a mind you fucking moron. Stop trying to pretend you know anything when you write shite like that.
sorry, am i meant to see a way to reply sanely to the type of comment that claims to be able to judge me, based on facts and no comprehension of - anything important at all.
maybe try rewriting your "question" if it could even be called such a thing, to state what it is that i wrote that you have such a difficult time understanding, and why you consider it to be wrong.
remembering not to ignore what truly underpins reality, as then you leave yourself unworthy to comment upon it.
I agree with your stone in free fall proposition, in the fact that the result is the same as the end of a computation that was theoretically not written to create it. However, the idea of complex systems not being created, per say, brings up the Watchmaker's Dilemma, that challenges the idea that everything was created by a higher mind, the Creator. Did'nt mean to step into you two's conversation, but I think you both may need a lil' chillaxin'.
That's the classic idea stated by Isaac Asimov, good pick. Don't forget though that most people's left brain deals with the written language and other palpable information, while the right deals more with meaning and feeling. It could be that science and the arts could inherintly be on the opposite sides of the board. Didn't mean to step between your argument but you and Lihinel may need to do like Spakp1ug suggested and "agree to disagree."
@MrSkate4weed: Ever had someone ask you after more than a year to specify what you meant with a comment that appears to have been cut down to meet the 500 char limit? ^ ^
Dunno, might have meant to say falsifiABLE: You can argue all you want about the nature of nature without getting anywhere when one good experiment could settle the argument in an instant. Like:
"Do heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones?"
"Can something come out of 'nothing'?(<-empty space, not nothing nothing)"
Excellent info! I do wish the soundtrack issue could be dealth with somehow. Isn't it permissible to show a clip for the purposes of criticism and discussion? Given that we can't hear the clip, though, it kind of renders discussing that point moot
Note to self when I am supreme dictator of the world, nuke WMG. Sure as dictator I could order them to unblock it but that wouldn't be good pay back for the frustration I feel now.
okay so i am writing an essay on the stand alone complex and how it pertains to one flies over the cockoos nest and a clock work orange so if i have this right a stand alone complex is a mass movement of copycats however there is no originator
I wanted to be constructive, but had to cut out more than half of what i was going to say, part of which being that i am impressed with how far you got even though i don't feel you got far enough in explaining the concepts of SAC's.
I feel this way because i have seen the show so many times. If you watch the show more closely the quotes will appear to support your argument in the fashion that i think the concept deserves. In other words, you made a video to early.
I only first started making this to test out some video editing software I picked up. This and the two AMVs I made.
I simply enjoy the show and had seasons 1&2 ripped to my PC. I felt like putting together a video. I try to avoid "internet posturing" that tends to go on with complicated subjects like this. I just occasionally thank people for compliments. I am, however, intelligent enough to notice when someone is being condescending.
Your right, i was overly critical, and i am sorry for that. I liked the first half of the video alot, and i gave it a 5 despite my comments. I guess the word count got me really annoyed, but that is not really a feasible excuse.
I didn't like your video, but you explained the concept well. My main point of contention is the lack of references including none from 2G. Furthermore, the laughing man-major convo of Ep 26 was only one of many scenes you could have/should have used. There should have been at least some of the Gouda-Major convo in Ep9 of 2G.
I guess i don't like your overall format for the video, the quotes are all there for what you are trying to say, but you didn't integrate them. Didn't finish, word count
isn't it curious that most intellectuals and people who rise above the animals instincts seem to have supported ron paul. but alas intellect and wisdom have never been grounds for being elected MONEY is what drives our society not wisdom or knowledge for better or worse
A world in which individuality is manipulated by the most apparent and appealing voice for humanities vision of peace and safety, even if death and corruption is the means in which we obtain such a goal. Individuals do not use their own voices, they seek to mimic and rally with a prominent voice of comfort.
The laughing man came to this exact problem, and attempted to act as the voice of the people. Although it backfired, since he failed to realize the power that corps. and govs. have on people
Although in the laughing man's case, he had hoped to make changes to the world one step at a time. Although this won't work since people in general are short minded. otherwise we wouldn't repeat our mistakes so often. He would of had to change the world as a whole in one step. Something beyond even the capabilities of the laughing man. The symbolism he held was corrupted by everyday people who decided to mimic the voice in whom they favored. Its a sad truth, but this won't change for some time.
of course, this only my perception of our current world in comparison to the world of the laughing man. Even now, the complexity of what was going on in that show is pretty astounding to me. For all I know im totally wrong... then again I suppose the show is more about perceptions of individuality in comparison to mass networking and social problems.
I think after being cynical all these years to a system that will always be wrong (No social system has ever had a creedo incorporating anti corruption, human rights, and political and world legitimacy) the laughing decides that there is no need to alter or oppose such forces, he decides to join the system after all and loses himself in the matrix by becoming a librarian.
The symbolism of the laughing man dropped out of society in the end can represent two things. 1) Now that he sees through the simulacra he is living in the "Desert of Real" and decides that he wants no involvment in the "phony" society.
Or 2) one can draw and comparison to George Orwells's 1984 in which the main character gives up his cynical views of the society and willingly converts back to its methods. (This is like Neo taking the colored pill that would send him back to the matrix)
fuck it never mind. Don't read my comment it is way too long and slightly subjective. Youtube's 500 character limit is quite annoying.
---Anyhow, i am wrong for attempting to interpret the laughing man's paradigm symbolism b/c there is just soo much symbolism through out the whole series. I'll shut up.
I did read it, enjoyed it actually. Glad you dug the video. Let me know if you have any other ideas for this kind of thing, I'm just lacking direction with ideas right now.
After i lost direction with what i was attempting to explain, i resorted to the wiki page on the laughing man. The section on Irony of the laughing man more or less conveys what i tried to explain in only two sentences :p It shows his resentment of "phonies" but he realizes that if he were to act out against these phonies he would only be a phony himself for interacting in a phony society itself.
The laughing man thus realizes that his knowledge is not absolute in dictating how society should function, how society is was wrong, but as a way for analyzing why it functions the way it does. With this knowledge, he chooses not to interfere and shape it, but to drop out and mind to himself. His decline of the Major's offer shows this. His interaction with society (the stunts) may set it on a different course, possible a "better" one, but he is humbled that society will ...
words... that despite whatever factors shape society (technology, AI, monarchy, democracy, hunters and gathers) the social system with which in we interact with, will always be a product of these factors and that there is no real "truth" behind any society. A social system may change from a modern to a postmodern from an organic to a cyborg, but that does not mean that there is any real underlying inherent "truth" governing how they all function.
This means that when the laughing man pulls a stunt in reaction to the "blinded" populace, he is not generating the response he would expect. He would expect people to realize that they are more or less drones operating in a retardedly corrupt system and speak out against it. In doing so he only engages himself further in this false society and create copy cats that are products of this false society.
He then realizes truth behind the sociologist words.
only a rxn to the false puppet society [Terminated History society], and not a reaction to the reality itself "The desert of the real" because reality itself no longer exist in a "history terminus" society. Hence, the grand realization is that social interaction knows no convention nor real truth and humanity will continue to interact in any situation.
Previous posters have mentioned that Jean Baudrillard's work advances the idea of a copy with out an original. I do not really understand how that relates to Baudrillard's work as i am pretty familiar with his work on Simulacra. I believe the reason the original "copycat" and the laughing man both retired to a life of solitude, was that they realized that to stand alone in a system that has become "Terminated at history" was only a rxn to the false puppet
Ghost in the Shell truly is an amazing show. It not only makes you think, but it also shows a lot of truth about how real life is in more ways than one.
Thanks for the video Sparkp1ug, it really helps us understand the Complex better.
you see the terminus in everyday society from gangsters to clicks. there is no one person running the show but a bunch of copycats making the person. which in turn creates more copycats in which the show goes on.
Sometimes you just got to love contrarian's comments...they always make up insensible opinions that is against you; regardless of how something is truly considered thought provoking, just so that they can get noticed by others.
Then again; contrarian or not; you're one butthurt troll; freezingfire810. Take a chilly pill and go fuck yourself, please.
kille2230 1 week ago
ghost in the shell is fucking awesome!
Jax0702 2 weeks ago
Was that "Ron Paul '98"in very smal print briefly at the end?
Rodneyrivera1701 2 weeks ago
Fight club music ^^ <3
KillertankHUN 2 months ago
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originalsessions 2 months ago
I don't understand if the theseus paradox can be related to the laughing man. Is he full cyrberbrain? If he is then I understand, but was it ever revealed or is this an assumption?
DavidYeshiwas 3 months ago
@DavidYeshiwas It's kind of the same thing. The paradox asks whether or not something can retain its individuality and originiality if you replace all of its parts. The Laughing Man phenomenon takes it a step further and asks whether there was ever an original something in the first place, be it object or idea. In this case, there was never an actual Laughing Man who was at the forefront of the terrorism.....just a bunch of unrelated events that happened to related at the core.
ShadowBlade79 3 weeks ago
fucking phonies...
bonasty1990 4 months ago
@bonasty1990 zZz?
jthm1543 1 month ago
@jthm1543 in the book catcher in the rye, thats what the main char. says. which ties in to GITS.
bonasty1990 1 month ago
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Caleb5617 4 months ago
I'd watch this anime but it's way too long..
DeathnoteBB 4 months ago
@DeathnoteBB I watched the whole series (both seasons) in less than a week, get Netflix.
Caleb5617 4 months ago
@Caleb5617 and how much total did it take?
DeathnoteBB 4 months ago
@DeathnoteBB 22 to 23 minutes x 52 episodes... About 20 hours lol
Caleb5617 4 months ago
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leonardodavinci107 5 months ago
my mind just got blown
lionkiller7 5 months ago
They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life. Everybody'd think I was just a poor deaf-mute bastard and they'd leave me alone.
sihanling 6 months ago 2
I figured I could get a job at a filling station somewhere, putting gas and oil in people's cars. I didn't care what kind of job it was, though. Just so people didn't know me and I didn't know anybody. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddam stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something, they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me.
sihanling 6 months ago 20
@sihanling did he say that?
jehcrazyjehcmy 5 months ago
@jehcrazyjehcmy yes. That is the extended quote taken from the actual book so that we can clearly see in context what it means.
sihanling 5 months ago
@sihanling wait there's a book?!
jehcrazyjehcmy 5 months ago
@jehcrazyjehcmy its called catcher in the rye by jd salinger
sihanling 5 months ago
what episode is this from?or is it from one of the movies?
freerunAR 6 months ago
@freerunAR I think it is from episode 24 from Ghost in the Shell: SAC.
Neane1993 6 months ago
Wonder how close this stand alone really is!
Pllowery40 6 months ago
@Pllowery40 dangerous close
jthm1543 1 month ago
So if a Stand Alone Complex is pretty much something that exists without existing, as he put it, a copy without an origin... Would humanity be considered a stand alone complex... In theory we were formed of something imaginary, an idea... And we mass reproduce over and over... But when you come down to it... There is no original... Unless you would consider the biblical Legend "Adam" as the original...
Mog90044 7 months ago
@Mog90044 There is an origin to humanity, but it is not biblical. All creatures on this planet are biologically related. The first creature, a single celled organism, would be the original.
justiceiscoming 7 months ago
sooo....to hold onto your individuality is to question everything?
TheAmazeingAnarchist 8 months ago
I WANT TO FUCK KUSANAGI
jimmyjohnsman1 9 months ago
@jimmyjohnsman1 Join the club. T-T
Meowmiks 9 months ago
are you seriously citing that pseudo philosopher Jean Beaudrillard? Is it because you've heard about him in the matrix movies and his hyperprose "blew your mind"? Listen kids, just because something sounds super complicated doesn't make it "deep" or "thought provoking".
freezingfire810 9 months ago
@freezingfire810 I believe Beaudrillard is being quoted because the Stand Alone Complex is the concept behind this anime.
Pilaf1984 8 months ago
@freezingfire810 You mad, bro?
Sparkp1ug 5 months ago 28
@Sparkp1ug
LMFAO xDDDDDDDD
straywolf74 4 months ago
@Sparkp1ug he's mad lol
omnisemantic1 3 months ago
he mad, bro.
mariomoose 1 month ago
@freezingfire810 alright, what's your famous and well-thought out theory? Don't have one? then shut the fuck up and deal with it.
DeathnoteBB 4 months ago
@freezingfire810 Hahaha, indeed.
TheMinusTen 4 months ago
@freezingfire810 no it doesn't have to be so, but if it makes someone stop and actually think for a moment. Well then maybe it has done some of its job. Hence the idea of Philosophy, simply to make one think what if.?
lonewolfsinger2k 4 months ago
@freezingfire810 It makes them think. Pseudo philosopher or not, that fact it makes them think and not just shout profanities at each other all day online isn't all bad. So old man, why so mad?
infringementMAN 3 months ago
@freezingfire810 nobody ever said it was deep or thought provoking
sotokorro 3 months ago
@freezingfire810 depends what you take from one person to spark your interest...everything has a deep meaning..just depends how far your own personal meaning goes.
lilroseninja 2 months ago
@freezingfire810 INCEPTION
Skullkan6 1 month ago
@freezingfire810 He's not "citing" him, he's referencing what the concept of a "Stand Alone Complex" is, a second-order simulacrum.
hotelmario510 3 weeks ago
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dalektaliban 2 weeks ago
@freezingfire810 butthurt contrarian is butthurt
dalektaliban 2 weeks ago
@freezingfire810 is there something you can contribute that provokes thought, or anything thats deep? Serious questions, I'm guessing you connected the dots and found the answer to where all other information is "obsolete"
TheCombacksss 1 week ago
the quote is constructed in obsolete overcomplicated english, thats what I hate about it.
635574 9 months ago 4
Does this mean that "flipping the bird" is a kind of S.A.C.? The original idea was it to represent the penis (and to some degree sexual intercourse) but over time the gesture has developed into a symbol of defiance, despise, etc. Something not directly tied to the original symbol that has became an emotion or statement.
itchi777 11 months ago
@itchi777 Flipping the bird came as an act of defiance, when french soldiers (cross bowmen) were told by the enemy that there trigger finger (middle finger) would be cut off if they were captured. It was to show the enemy forces that we still have our trigger fingers and we are still fighting against you. In the modern day it has changed into a sexual meaning, or that of anger. Not so much of defiance. I forget the name of the battle and war where it began.
Perigrine85 7 months ago
@Perigrine85 Thank you for your explanation, I didn't know that :-)
itchi777 7 months ago
@Perigrine85 Actually "flipping the bird" dates back to ancient greece and rome. We know it dates back to ancient Greece, at least, where it was referenced in "The Clouds," a play written by Aristophanes in 423 B.C. It was also well known to the Romans, who referred to it variously as digitus infamis ("infamous finger") and digitus impudicus ("indecent finger"). In all likelihood its origins were prehistoric.
MrAzzameen 5 months ago
Somehow, I'm reminded of some of the things said by Egon Spengler in episode Knock Knock. You'll may want to think it over a bit too. Anyways, I really did enjoy this video about the stand Alone Complex.
devilmanother 11 months ago
@devilmanother As far as it covering all the known stuff spoken of... it is to me only a starting point in the understanding anyways. really a part two explaining the Individual Eleven and how that all works works and all that would be a useful sequel here
devilmanother 11 months ago
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devilmanother 11 months ago
i consider myself to be pretty intelligent but ive seen this series twice and i still dont get all of it. will reading catcher in the rye give me another view on this?
darksepheroth 1 year ago
for the record the full laughing man quote is taken form an unknown philosifer that starts i saw and injustice in the world and my eforts will do nothing to stop it so i thort what i would do is pretend to be one of those deaf mutes then atleast my ears are closed to it and i cant complain
Amarun535 1 year ago
Or should I?
0Device0 1 year ago
I really like what your doing but I wish you could have explained it more in depth but bravo. Its about time that some one started really explaining to people about the Stand Alone Complex. Hopefully there will be videos like this in the future very soon that will start influencing people to ring some bells on certain issues that need to be resolved in this world and actualy do something about it.
1Laughingman 1 year ago
Well maybe im stupid but I did not know what J.D. Salingers quote had to do with the philosphy of this video.
vicious986 1 year ago
@vicious986 The series makes frequent reference to the Catcher in the Rye - the Laughing man's logo is surrounded by a quote from the book : "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes"
jimbowman1 1 year ago
oh wow, Ron Paul eh? someone's done their homework, everyone research that man extensively if you don't mind, then vote for him in 2012 if you live in the US and want this country turned around and corruption exposed and deterred from it's current successful path, federal reserve might actually fall if you elect him, again, research research research
MrSkate4weed 1 year ago
@MrSkate4weed Or maybe an entire uprising in the U.S. of no less than 3 million people and they create there own country rid of corruption and rid of corporate influence on politicians but yet be able to trade freely with any country.
1Laughingman 10 months ago
@1Laughingman a country like that would not be allowed to exist, we would be forced to interact with the US somehow and eventually be controlled by it, there's no way, even if 3 million people branched off, to start a new country, the wills of the owners of this country would be imposed upon the new nation and become the U.S.'s branch, it's impossible without an entire turn around, this includes Europe and Asia, if we want a just world we must overthrow and replace what we have now... Zeitgeist
MrSkate4weed 10 months ago
@1Laughingman Before you go leading a revolution or trying to change the world, start with something simple, like the difference between 'there' and 'their'.
Velocinox 10 months ago
@1Laughingman The Confederate States of America?
justiceiscoming 7 months ago
@justiceiscoming more like a socialist state on its own with no involvement with the Government of America
1Laughingman 7 months ago
this video had been removed for some time im so happy its back =]
dgame9000 1 year ago
((=p
kittieblue80 1 year ago
Wow the dub ruins the entire mood. I don't get how anyone can choose to watch it dubbed infront of subbed. It's scandalous really.
softan 1 year ago
The analogies used in this series I found rather inadequate. It beats around the bush with abstract philosophy rather than the more "concrete speculation" (excuse the oxymoron) that it is a science fiction's job to do. The rise of cyberisation is highly likely, IMHO, to cause individuals to be absorbed into a faceless mush.
axeld93 1 year ago
Nice attempt at encapsulating a stream of philosophy running through the series. I enjoyed the video inasmuch as it had at least something to offer.
therealcharismatron 1 year ago
Very good video! But I already knew all that, I also made my own research after watching GITS. Anyway, you have done an excellent work.
P.D. : I love the end scene with Aoi. It's one of the best of the whole series ;)
avalonpreen 1 year ago
it's the last episode of the first season right? @ichibanhan, the music is the dust brothers from the fight club ost
M057LYH4RML355 1 year ago
I don't remember, in which episode can I find this scene??
estefanias 1 year ago
stop dave, i'm afraid
nocoercion 1 year ago
thats me in my library of a room... a symbol of the collective mind of all humanity
Jeremiah0san 1 year ago
lol good points and thoughts ^-^ hats off to you...
this is your life, good to the last drop....
GreatMooCowMan 1 year ago
I hate Motoko in the TV series'. i hate her because shes unstoppable and invincible and no one or thing can stop her.
The movie Motoko is far superior, her emotion, her demeanor, her view of the world, her weakness, her insecurity, and just her as a whole. You love Motoko in the film and can relate to her while in the series she is not relateable at all.
Colton5 1 year ago
@Colton5 I agree with you about Motoko but I also think GITS series are overally much worse than movies. Movies were focused on cyberpunk atmoshpere and meaning of being human while series are basically generic criminal stories you've seen many times. Notice the difference in the ways how the world was portrayed - in the movie the city is grey, dirty and overpopulated while in the series it's pretty and green with flashy skyscrapers everywhere. It's obvious series were made for younger audience.
BleakCabaler 1 year ago
@BleakCabaler agreed : D
Colton5 1 year ago
who is that music in the beginning, sounds like.. the residents?
ichibanhahn 1 year ago
This is actually not really the whole idea.... and it's more identified as the Laughing Man series because the secod-gig is also SAC, Stand Alone Complex. There were stand alone episodes that dealt with seperate episodes and complex involved the main episodes. The series has much more of a philosophy than that, no offense. But thanks for some of this information.
XDeathXSS 1 year ago
@XDeathXSS Yeah there are other elements to the series, I just really like this whole Stand Alone Complex theory in an applied setting. I love matching the theory to some of the modern socio-political issues and watching the similarities fly around.
Sparkp1ug 1 year ago 6
If its for criticism and education, then why the hell didn't this fall under fair use? The bastards!!! Its a crazy conspiracy! The Gmen are trying to turn our minds to jello!!!!!OMG!
yemo34 1 year ago
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J.D. Salinger quote sucks ..... hate it.
vicious986 1 year ago
@vicious986 I agree, this video blows. ;-)
Sparkp1ug 1 year ago
@vicious986 well J.D salinger quotes think you suck >.>
TNstud 1 year ago 9
@vicious986 Why?
thebaconboy 1 year ago
awesome vid ^^ glad to see it again love it!
wize11 1 year ago
Oh hey sounds back
JisakuJ 1 year ago
Glad to see this one got its audio back. The chat between the Major and The Laughing Man is a major part of this vid. Was a shame to have been missing that for so long.
TheMobiusTrap 1 year ago
its been so long good to have it back
allenDGoon 1 year ago
I can keep asking questions, but my individualism tells I'm not really interested in being occupationally optimistic, I wish I wish I wish, theres scrubs in this degenerate generation of new era, and theres people like me right?,or am I being too selfish,either way that leads to the Game Theory,who wants success more? nobody, life is being born and then dying, sex is a distraction that keeps forcing new people to be born,but the are simply idiots being born,no discipline has allot to do with it.
GhOsT24Se7eN 1 year ago
@GhOsT24Se7eN a very nihilistic outlook on life... simply idiots being born? Why would you think that.
TheBasementDwelIer 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this! Maybe the person writing f*ck you under our noses is physical reality itself. The failure of government + technology to solve more problems than they create is part of the failure of physical reality itself, but blaming the government, media and technology protects our faith in physical life and guards our belief in the possibilty of a utopian world.
goodtwitch 1 year ago
that is a great thought of statement and a great a opinion,technology is man's creation,scrubs think "Man created technology,and it will kill man",man kills man behind that statement anyways,technology is a enjoyable distraction, we are all blind, we are fooled into thinking we have "dreams",dreams are memory's of what we want and desire,there is no silver lining to someone's life,even if they were fed with a silver spoon,rich humans are satisfied,their jealous of the poor man's ambition to rise
GhOsT24Se7eN 1 year ago
@GhOsT24Se7eN u might like siegmund freuds dream book
wize11 1 year ago
i think every1 are like... WTF?!?!
mattysnailboy 1 year ago
Im lost. Could someone simply this into layman's terms for me please. I would really like to know about this philosophical video.
philhunter2005 2 years ago
I have absolutely no idea what the point of the conversation between Kusanagi and Aoi is about. They seem to skip from point to point without any logical direction. I'm so confused, can anyone help me here? What the the gist of what the two are discussing?
Hypophora 2 years ago
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this series is just a copy of the gits films and it's not even a good one! fucking cheap! the films are way better watch one of those and understand the real nature of a good anime...
xXdunkelelfeXx 2 years ago
Yes, with the overpropogation of memes that the Internet has made possible, a Stand Alone Complex might be possible. In fact, it has already happened with Project Chanology, a worldwide protest against the Church of Scientology organized by the collective Internet community Anonymous.
NexAngelus405 2 years ago
someone needs to point out, again, that the Church as-is (or as-is commonly punted to appear as; which indeed may be how it's run internally) has nothing to do with the real Ron Hubbard anyway. it's the usual - someone/s else controls it 'in the name of' another person whose ideas it's based around. what that means is that the actual underlying conspiracies remain un-noticed; it's just smokescreens to mask what actually happened / is taking place.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
at 2:29 I have no clue what their saying.
garrus92 2 years ago
What's the point of a library when one's brain is already connected to the net?
phreakoutaston 2 years ago
Not everything has been "transcribed" to the net. Will you eventually believe what you see or are told rather than what you "experience"? Touch, taste, smell, feel?
PharohAmonKhan 2 years ago
those senses can be falsified the extent of human knowledge will always remain in the phenominal realm, you will never be able to reach the numinal realm through reason or understanding either therefor reality becomes merely the things themselves rather than the things in themselves. Kant frickin ends this discussion. As for a thesus paradox well if it's all phenominal there can be be no discernment between the original and the copy if the copy is identical in meaning.
Sinthalastrum 2 years ago
Also the series deals with this in the second season when Pazu (I think that's who it was) fights his doppelganger (a spurned ex lover) and one of them is killed but the team can't figure out which one and no one seems to care.
Sinthalastrum 2 years ago
@PharohAmonKhan What you experience is simply sensory input, it can be manipulated and is in a way no more trustworthy than what you are told.
softan 1 year ago
I have to agree with Lihinel. If you know anything about science/reality is that in order for something to be complex, simpler mechanisms must have made the complex object, system, or being.
iatemyface 2 years ago
This is worth a later read through.
Straigo 2 years ago
Only continental philosophy is for kids, i think this is a bit analytic
AnnaLang17 2 years ago 4
Guy...it's okay. Agree to disagree..
Sparkp1ug 2 years ago 3
I've seen this, its not so deep
phylosophy is for kids
MARKO0oO 2 years ago
If it was for kids, then you would be able to spell the word correctly. Also, on the surface, the ideals don't seem too in-depth. However if you were to actually THINK about them you would see that they're quite perverse.
HeartofIce666 2 years ago 10
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Филозофија је за децу
come on read that you smart ass...
MARKO0oO 2 years ago
Realism and Idealism.
Bravo.
HeartofIce666 2 years ago
The last part is a general statement.
Philosophy is for kids.
The cool guys and grownups do the experiment and size all usefull knowledge and power.
Lihinel 2 years ago
Grownups don't pursue power, adolescents do; not kids. It's something that occurs when society fails to deal properly with hormones. To do useful work requires it be thought thru fully beforehand. It's a little like skepticism except it isn't closed, at least tries to consider all angles and possibilities, and the conclusion isn't arrived at before the tests are done. Great series but I hate dubbing.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
You have a pretty narrow understanding of the word it seems.
For wikis sake, power refers broadly to any ability to effect change or exert control over either things or people, subjects or objects.
Or in what cathegorie would you push the Haber-Bosch process, the Germ theory of disease or Quantum electrodynamics?
Philosophy alone doesn't get you very far.
Lihinel 2 years ago 4
What cathegorie would I put it in? Gee I donth knof, the phiirst one you shaid or the shecond one. Oh philosophy alone doesn't get you far - d'you think maybe that's why I wrote exactly that in the comment you replied to. I knew you were a total douchebag when I read your bs comment here. I just had to tell such a twat what a twat they are, cause apparently you're actually unaware of it.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
Muppet, BEFORE doing experiments you think things through - otherwise how can you possibly design a means of finding anything out that is going to measure all relevant variables. How can you make sure you don't waste time and energy on dupes.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
Thats not true, you can generate complex models or entire systems without a mind.
The world around us is pretty much filled with the products of such a process.
You just need vast amounts of space, time and matter to run the computations.
Lihinel 2 years ago 3
You need a mind to design and build the computer, and to run it and program it. You really shouldn't have Jupiter on your avatar as it's the planet of knowing relevant things. I mean come on, your post here is trying to claim you are cool for ignoring thinking - you're a troll. You try to make it seem like science and arts are separate = psychotic divide & conquer bs. It's a sad method used to stifle proper thinking of 'both' camps so their brain hemispheres don't fire across.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
Troll? Takes one to know one.
I only said Philosophy ALONE doesn't get you very far. (In terms of usefull, falsified knowledge)
I also stated that you don't need a mind to create complex systems/ come up with solutions to problems. (See any biological system)
And you don't need to build a computer to do computation. For example: Use a stone, left to free fall, to compute the gradient of any given gravitational field.
Lihinel 2 years ago 7
Wrong, you don't have to be what someone else is to know what they are. You can't compute anything about the stone or whatever else if you don't have a mind you fucking moron. Stop trying to pretend you know anything when you write shite like that.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
randomlaughingman:
U MAD?
venomxelite 2 years ago
sorry, am i meant to see a way to reply sanely to the type of comment that claims to be able to judge me, based on facts and no comprehension of - anything important at all.
maybe try rewriting your "question" if it could even be called such a thing, to state what it is that i wrote that you have such a difficult time understanding, and why you consider it to be wrong.
remembering not to ignore what truly underpins reality, as then you leave yourself unworthy to comment upon it.
randomlaughingman 2 years ago
I agree with your stone in free fall proposition, in the fact that the result is the same as the end of a computation that was theoretically not written to create it. However, the idea of complex systems not being created, per say, brings up the Watchmaker's Dilemma, that challenges the idea that everything was created by a higher mind, the Creator. Did'nt mean to step into you two's conversation, but I think you both may need a lil' chillaxin'.
StudioEyeball 2 years ago
That's the classic idea stated by Isaac Asimov, good pick. Don't forget though that most people's left brain deals with the written language and other palpable information, while the right deals more with meaning and feeling. It could be that science and the arts could inherintly be on the opposite sides of the board. Didn't mean to step between your argument but you and Lihinel may need to do like Spakp1ug suggested and "agree to disagree."
StudioEyeball 2 years ago
@Lihinel "I only said...falsified knowledge" that part confuses me, the part in parenthesis especially, mind explaining?
MrSkate4weed 1 year ago
@MrSkate4weed: Ever had someone ask you after more than a year to specify what you meant with a comment that appears to have been cut down to meet the 500 char limit? ^ ^
Dunno, might have meant to say falsifiABLE: You can argue all you want about the nature of nature without getting anywhere when one good experiment could settle the argument in an instant. Like:
"Do heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones?"
"Can something come out of 'nothing'?(<-empty space, not nothing nothing)"
Lihinel 1 year ago
@Lihinel Takes one to know one. . .stellar come back. Next time try takes two to know your chin.
TheMinusTen 4 months ago
damn...music nazi's strike again..sigh...oh well.
Catlicker101 2 years ago 2
couldn't you put some music or something in the background?
nevertheless thanks^^
Dieuabv 2 years ago
You're obviously too oblivious to notice this, so I'll point it out for you:
"NOTICE - This video contains an audio track that has not been authorized by WMG. The audio has been disabled."
Savvy?
Sparkp1ug 2 years ago 4
@Sparkp1ug What was the original audio?
SuperboyConnerKent 8 months ago
YouTube is trying to hide the truth.
JisakuJ 2 years ago 32
Excellent info! I do wish the soundtrack issue could be dealth with somehow. Isn't it permissible to show a clip for the purposes of criticism and discussion? Given that we can't hear the clip, though, it kind of renders discussing that point moot
HisLordshipTheOwl 2 years ago 3
Aww man the audio...
Got any way of uploding a version without the claimed content?
Now I kinda feel the need to write a nice little Fuck You on some other WMG property...
Lihinel 2 years ago 5
one movie that it is similar to is lawnmower man, except that GITS isn't quite that awful
AssaultKalashnikov 2 years ago
neosoullover, it is nothing like either of those books in any way shape or form... i dunno where the fuck you got that from
AssaultKalashnikov 2 years ago
Note to self when I am supreme dictator of the world, nuke WMG. Sure as dictator I could order them to unblock it but that wouldn't be good pay back for the frustration I feel now.
Chaosglory626 2 years ago 5
Watch it you could get in trouble for saying that, lol.
Lobato1987 2 years ago
okay so i am writing an essay on the stand alone complex and how it pertains to one flies over the cockoos nest and a clock work orange so if i have this right a stand alone complex is a mass movement of copycats however there is no originator
neosoullover2000 2 years ago
I wanted to be constructive, but had to cut out more than half of what i was going to say, part of which being that i am impressed with how far you got even though i don't feel you got far enough in explaining the concepts of SAC's.
I feel this way because i have seen the show so many times. If you watch the show more closely the quotes will appear to support your argument in the fashion that i think the concept deserves. In other words, you made a video to early.
ringwraithking 3 years ago
I only first started making this to test out some video editing software I picked up. This and the two AMVs I made.
I simply enjoy the show and had seasons 1&2 ripped to my PC. I felt like putting together a video. I try to avoid "internet posturing" that tends to go on with complicated subjects like this. I just occasionally thank people for compliments. I am, however, intelligent enough to notice when someone is being condescending.
So thanks for the back-handed compliments, dude.
Sparkp1ug 3 years ago
Your right, i was overly critical, and i am sorry for that. I liked the first half of the video alot, and i gave it a 5 despite my comments. I guess the word count got me really annoyed, but that is not really a feasible excuse.
ringwraithking 3 years ago
I didn't like your video, but you explained the concept well. My main point of contention is the lack of references including none from 2G. Furthermore, the laughing man-major convo of Ep 26 was only one of many scenes you could have/should have used. There should have been at least some of the Gouda-Major convo in Ep9 of 2G.
I guess i don't like your overall format for the video, the quotes are all there for what you are trying to say, but you didn't integrate them. Didn't finish, word count
ringwraithking 3 years ago
So really an copy cat syndrome happed!
theabomation 3 years ago
more than that it is a copycat with no real originator
neosoullover2000 2 years ago
haha i like the ron paul thing at the end too.
isn't it curious that most intellectuals and people who rise above the animals instincts seem to have supported ron paul. but alas intellect and wisdom have never been grounds for being elected MONEY is what drives our society not wisdom or knowledge for better or worse
sgtOOX 3 years ago
absolutely splendid
i fell in love with ghost in the shell when i noticed the parallel with catcher in the Rye
i wish more videos like these existed for amazing thoughts from ghost in the shell
but well done indeed 5/5 fav and all that jazz
sgtOOX 3 years ago
A world in which individuality is manipulated by the most apparent and appealing voice for humanities vision of peace and safety, even if death and corruption is the means in which we obtain such a goal. Individuals do not use their own voices, they seek to mimic and rally with a prominent voice of comfort.
The laughing man came to this exact problem, and attempted to act as the voice of the people. Although it backfired, since he failed to realize the power that corps. and govs. have on people
deleriousexile 3 years ago
Although in the laughing man's case, he had hoped to make changes to the world one step at a time. Although this won't work since people in general are short minded. otherwise we wouldn't repeat our mistakes so often. He would of had to change the world as a whole in one step. Something beyond even the capabilities of the laughing man. The symbolism he held was corrupted by everyday people who decided to mimic the voice in whom they favored. Its a sad truth, but this won't change for some time.
deleriousexile 3 years ago
of course, this only my perception of our current world in comparison to the world of the laughing man. Even now, the complexity of what was going on in that show is pretty astounding to me. For all I know im totally wrong... then again I suppose the show is more about perceptions of individuality in comparison to mass networking and social problems.
deleriousexile 3 years ago
I think after being cynical all these years to a system that will always be wrong (No social system has ever had a creedo incorporating anti corruption, human rights, and political and world legitimacy) the laughing decides that there is no need to alter or oppose such forces, he decides to join the system after all and loses himself in the matrix by becoming a librarian.
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
The symbolism of the laughing man dropped out of society in the end can represent two things. 1) Now that he sees through the simulacra he is living in the "Desert of Real" and decides that he wants no involvment in the "phony" society.
Or 2) one can draw and comparison to George Orwells's 1984 in which the main character gives up his cynical views of the society and willingly converts back to its methods. (This is like Neo taking the colored pill that would send him back to the matrix)
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
fuck it never mind. Don't read my comment it is way too long and slightly subjective. Youtube's 500 character limit is quite annoying.
---Anyhow, i am wrong for attempting to interpret the laughing man's paradigm symbolism b/c there is just soo much symbolism through out the whole series. I'll shut up.
Good video, nice job!
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
I did read it, enjoyed it actually. Glad you dug the video. Let me know if you have any other ideas for this kind of thing, I'm just lacking direction with ideas right now.
Sparkp1ug 3 years ago
After i lost direction with what i was attempting to explain, i resorted to the wiki page on the laughing man. The section on Irony of the laughing man more or less conveys what i tried to explain in only two sentences :p It shows his resentment of "phonies" but he realizes that if he were to act out against these phonies he would only be a phony himself for interacting in a phony society itself.
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
The laughing man thus realizes that his knowledge is not absolute in dictating how society should function, how society is was wrong, but as a way for analyzing why it functions the way it does. With this knowledge, he chooses not to interfere and shape it, but to drop out and mind to himself. His decline of the Major's offer shows this. His interaction with society (the stunts) may set it on a different course, possible a "better" one, but he is humbled that society will ...
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
words... that despite whatever factors shape society (technology, AI, monarchy, democracy, hunters and gathers) the social system with which in we interact with, will always be a product of these factors and that there is no real "truth" behind any society. A social system may change from a modern to a postmodern from an organic to a cyborg, but that does not mean that there is any real underlying inherent "truth" governing how they all function.
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
This means that when the laughing man pulls a stunt in reaction to the "blinded" populace, he is not generating the response he would expect. He would expect people to realize that they are more or less drones operating in a retardedly corrupt system and speak out against it. In doing so he only engages himself further in this false society and create copy cats that are products of this false society.
He then realizes truth behind the sociologist words.
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
only a rxn to the false puppet society [Terminated History society], and not a reaction to the reality itself "The desert of the real" because reality itself no longer exist in a "history terminus" society. Hence, the grand realization is that social interaction knows no convention nor real truth and humanity will continue to interact in any situation.
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
Very interesting analysis.
Previous posters have mentioned that Jean Baudrillard's work advances the idea of a copy with out an original. I do not really understand how that relates to Baudrillard's work as i am pretty familiar with his work on Simulacra. I believe the reason the original "copycat" and the laughing man both retired to a life of solitude, was that they realized that to stand alone in a system that has become "Terminated at history" was only a rxn to the false puppet
GypsyRhapsody 3 years ago
Ghost in the Shell truly is an amazing show. It not only makes you think, but it also shows a lot of truth about how real life is in more ways than one.
Thanks for the video Sparkp1ug, it really helps us understand the Complex better.
5/5
Kohaco 3 years ago
you see the terminus in everyday society from gangsters to clicks. there is no one person running the show but a bunch of copycats making the person. which in turn creates more copycats in which the show goes on.
DjAonyx 3 years ago
what episode is it at 1:50. i like that kid. sounds like sasukes voice.:) i havent seen this in a long time.
AnimeMangaCrazy22 3 years ago
its from the season finale of season 1 of G.I.T.S. Stand Alone Complex season 1
eyesonly654 3 years ago