Rabbi Meir Kahane The Yoke of Heaven Part 1 of 4

[dan2677]

@oc00011

no he didnt. he argued according to the talmud and the torah. and actually as i said it is not my perspective, it is a spiritual perspective written in the zohar.

[dan2677]

@dan2677

here a small quote for you to start with: The Book of Zohar (Devarim, 32): “The sons of Ishmael will take over the Holy Land, when it is empty for many years… They will create obstructions for the sons of Israel, who will be returning to their land…”

now get some books and study. thanks.and if you want to know more just drop me a mail and i will be happy to discuss it with you. chatima tova

[oc00011]

this is a quote from an Arab, if only Kahane *heard* this and not only listened.

"The Arabs, especially the educated among us, look with deepest sympathy on the Zionist movement....We will wish the Jews a hearty welcome home....The Jewish movement is nationalist and not imperialist. And there is room in Syria for us both. Indeed, I think that neither can be a real success without the other"

- Emir Faisal, Arab king of Iraq & Syria, 3rd March 1919

[doczg88]

can anyone write the four thing he regrets on the beginning in english and hebrew? please.

[dan2677]

Kahane was right

[oc00011]

@dan2677 no disrespect, but kahane was fucking wrong. he was an intolerant racist deluded maniac. his approach to the problems of which jews are victims was the very same approach that antisemites have used with their problems. especially with the most dangerous use of language like "THE arab". he completely distorts the political philosophy&practice of zionism, & shits on the ideologies&legacy of herzl.

i should point out that i am a proud zionist jew, from israel. a real one. shalom

[dan2677]

@oc00011

I beg to differ. Listen his speech and name me a racist remark please. The language he is using may be offensive, though it is not racist.

[oc00011]

@dan2677 hi, i heard racist remarks from other videos of him. that aside, its well known that he uses the term "THE arab" to talk about our enemies. he believes that there's no ethical legitimacy in *distinguishing* between arabs in israel who are a threat & arabs who aren't a threat. his views cannot accommodate, for instance, support for the groups 'arabs for israel', 'muslims for israel', 'british muslims for israel' etc. when they simply want to be our brothers. read herzl please.

[dan2677]

@oc00011

True, consider kahane as a momentum of that time during the first intifada and the first lebanon war. the phenomenon of supporting arabs for israel is a recent one. But still and that is the important thing! never estimate the dynamic of the mass. if the majority is against jews and the existence of israel which it is still to that day, no ilusionary peace deal could swift that away.

[oc00011]

@dan2677 i agree with u that the majority of arabs&muslims hate jews, its fact, & no peace deal in these times could succeed when their education systems & media are like they r now. my critique of kahane is his racism, his refusal to distinguish between them & his insisting that all of them should be victims of violence. & even tho pro-israel arabs/muslims are growing more rapidly today with internet, it existed for decades e.g. 'neve shalom', & the king of iraq&syria early 20thC etc.

[dan2677]

@oc00011

ok so? whats the result? the actions to be taken? how to make a survival? you need to take away their national rights. leave them all private rights but no national righst for example the right to vote. that is what he wanted! and if one bomb goes off everybody has to leave. find it racist, but there is no other way.

[oc00011]

@dan2677 i'm glad u see its racist. with respect, there r other ways. for example, those arabs who identify with destroying our nation state must leave, just like in other countries- people who threaten their way of life, & even their actual lives, must leave. but to throw all of them out is to ignore arabs who passionately support zionism & the jews' struggle, of which there are many. if a bomb goes off, the *terrorists* shud be, & is, the focus. not their ethnic background. do u see?

[dan2677]

@oc00011

racist or not. He speaks the same language like the arabs and i dont mean a small minority. its the large majority who opposes zionism and the state of israel. interesting enough that the arabs dealt with him with a lot of respect. i know arabs who considered him as a resepectful enemy. now how is that? why? because he respected them and didnt pitty them.

[oc00011]

@dan2677 i'm sure there are many arabs who wouldn't see it this way. like i said, 'arabs for israel', 'muslims for israel', 'british muslims for israel', 'arab palestinian zionist organization' (that's a funny 1 i know), 'givat haviva', 'neve shalom'... such arabs are Zionists. such as those, in israel, shouldn't be treated as an "enemy", "respected" or not. those hate-filled antisemitic arabs who "understand his language" only proves his character to be disgustingly akin to theirs. no?

[dan2677]

@oc00011

well and these arabs he was never and would never treat like enemys., besides he said he is offereing all their private rights and all benefits from it. these arabs which are clearly the majority who oppose the jewish sate should leave , which i find reasonable and necessary. so he is speaking of "the arab" and "his honor" . you might find it dissproportinate or racist, agree, now so what? all his other point make perfectly sense, doesnt it? and what is racist about it?

[oc00011]

@dan2677 everyone, aside from idiots, agree that there needs to be a split, a 2-state solution. whether israel &jordan(palestine), / land&population swaps / both.. many views on this. its reasonable for him to see the need for this. what's not reasonable is his hate-mongering for All the arabs (like we agreed, its racist) bcoz of reasons mentioned below. what's not necessary is to force out arab zionists who consider us as their brothers. some r even some of the best soldiers in tzahal.

[dan2677]

@oc00011

so a seperation of two people is not racist? interesting....

[oc00011]

@dan2677 a separation of two groups of people for sociopolitical reasons is not racist. a separation of ethnic populations for the sole reason of ethnic difference & a generalization & personification of the whole ethnic population group, is racist. jews, as i'm sure u know, encompass virtually every ethnicity, because of the diasporas of course. we're a nation, a culture, & for some, a religious group, but not a race. that's 1 of the reasons why people calling israel racist are absurd.

[dan2677]

@oc00011

come on now u beeing absurd. because you are looking at semantic nuances. bye the way scientist discovered genetically similarities between jews, traced back to the time from babylon.

[oc00011]

@dan2677 if ur calling me absurd, back it up- if this is a dialogue. i could be saying the exact same to u, of ur "semantic nuances". of course there's genetic connection between jews around the world going back to the israelites. but its absurd to ignore that there are white, black, indian, middle-eastern & even chinese jews from the diasporas. They Are Ethnicially Different. U Can't Group All Of Them As 1 Race. we are a nation. anyway, my initial point- kahane was wrong. very wrong.

[dan2677]

@oc00011

well , if u wanna know what "jew" means you should dig into the zohar and study the writings of Baal Hasulam

and kahane was right , u see his prophecies right in front of your eyes

[oc00011]

@dan2677 now that makes me angry. don't you tell me that i don't know what "jew" means. i am one, u arrogant scum. if u want to *suggest* another jewish perspective (out of the MANY), then be my guest. but recognize it as just that, another perspective, that YOU regard as truth.

look back at my messages & see how there's no denying that kahane was mentally primitive, he looked for simple answers where there weren't any, & he had a very disturbed & distorted grasp of ethics.

[planetmuman]

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[emetds]

Kahane was right. The majority of Jewish people can only name Noam Chomsky as a Jewish leader.

[Dirtythinker420]

Kahane was right! Christian Americans support the State of Israe, there is no "palestine".

[dgw16]

Kahane was right.

[pfpalya]

Fascinating.

[hennypenny247]

I'm having a lot of trouble with the video breaking up, stopping and starting.

[KaffirWarrior1948]

"Hate is positively Godly when it is directed at cold-blooded killers, motivating us to fight and eradicate them before more people die." - Rabbi Shmuley

To not spread hate is morally repugnant.

It is you who will be residing in hell.

[jmccb]

brilliant!

[argonisphere]

Too bad he was assassinated, but this is the way of this world. The truth enrages people and they often kill to squelch it, but they fail to see that the truth itself, though the messenger be killed, is never silenced ultimately.

[argonisphere]

I think he's forthright and absolutely correct in his assessments. He is far closer to the true teachings of Judaism than the secularized Jews of the US. Also, even though Zionists were and are for the most part non-observant, his assessments of the political situation is also clear and correct. In the 70s and before when he spoke, there may have been some doubts, but now? Can we see now the truth of what he was saying?

[BulldogJew]

Rabbi Kahane ZT"L HY"D, the greatest leader of our generation! His ideas are genuine Torah Judaism and will prevail, G-d willing. Am Israel Chai! Od Kahane Chai!

[RMeirKahane]

Rabbi Kahane was the greatest Jewish leader in the history of modern Israel, the only one who spoke the complete truth. When he was murdered, he went directly to heaven.

[rgrothe]

The man was a hero, heaven will receive his soul with gladness.

[levtron2]

Kahane B'H