Obama Speech/Tr(n)igger - Saul Williams Neumo's Seattle

[Rockonad20]

fucking edditing. ccensoship causes blindness



[5assafras]

TRUE THAT!!!!!

[upabittoolate]

no. when everyone has guns there are more injuries & deaths inside the home to people who aren't criminals. saying that no 1 gets hurt at a gun show is like saying that no one gets diseases cured at a health fare. of course both are true. but we're talking about efficacy. crime is a function of poverty & population density. it's not like shall issue states don't have crime. in fact there's more pre capita crime

[gingerbred211]

Are you one of those lucky ones to have had the opportunity to attend college? Have you ever taken a "Child Development" course? Did your school have access to textbooks?

[REZN8]

Are you referring to me the poster of this video? Or a comment left?

[MUN7001]

the people dont care, they just want you to play music lol

[HofmannsStoned]

How can you be such an asshole and not respect someones opinion?

[lastweek0279]

Rock on!!!

[artiswitness]

This was an awesome show! It was nice to see Saul headlining. In El Paso, the show was short, but got to mosh it up with CX and chill with him afterwards. These guys are real awesome people. THNX for the upload.

[Fatal616]

How can he sing "sunday bloody sunday" and then support a war monger like Obama. Disappointing.

[ellisdrummond]

The circumstances Sunday Bloody Sunday is about beyond his understanding. And because the idea of supporting a "black man" seems to have people out of their minds and back in their normal stupidity. People are not willing to deal with the structure that keeps war mongering, Zionist/imperialist, decadent, destructive elite in power. In a real way Obama is perfect. He brings faith in the rotten system back by those who need to believe in something convenient. You're disappointed right?

[Fatal616]

False hope helps none.

[upabittoolate]

war monger? r u stupid?

[Fatal616]

"THE FIRST STEP must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN.

As President, I would DEPLOY AT LEAST TWO additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations and support NATO's efforts against the Taliban." -OBAMA

do some fucking research sheep.

[upabittoolate]

1) i'm not your sheep, i asked reasonable question 2) that's not war mongering at all, that's a tactical move to secure something that's been a problem for america for more than 20yrs 3) since your researching, find out how many soldiers a brigade is & tell why he'd deploy them

[Fatal616]

DO SOME RESEARCH. TURN OFF YOUR TV.

Im serious. It was never a problem UNTIL THE US REFUSED TO LEAVE the middle east. we had no business there and if you think 911 was done by middle eastern people, DO SOME RESEARCH. cannot express that enough.

[upabittoolate]

so the US refusing to do something falls squarely upon the shoulders of 1 senator? that makes you an idiot. go vote for that KKK member ron paul if you like. fucktard

[Fatal616]

Oh god you are so stupid, i can not tell you enough times GO DO SOME RESEARCH because you clearly do not. Im telling you the reason "it became a problem" what LIES DIRECTLY on oBOMBa is his help in destroying the constitution and taking money from big corps to do their agendas.

[Fatal616]

And ron paul kkk? Did obama tell you that one? Ron Paul is one of the ONLY members of congress FOR THE PEOPLE and the CONSTITUTION. Go learn about your rights and how obama takes them away since you are clearly clueless.

[upabittoolate]

dude, the only 1 who hasn't done their research is evidently you. either way, it doesn't matter. make your statement in november dickhead. until then, stfu

[Fatal616]

Nope, i know for a fact you didnt do shit but see a black man and get excited "oh yay who cares about his history or what his agenda is, hes black!" typical. wake up.

[upabittoolate]

his being black doesn't matter you idiot. 1st of all, he's mulatto so he's just as white as he is black. 2nd of all, he was raised in no small part by his white grandparents so being socialized as a black kid is a misnomer 3) his father is from kenya so his experience is quite far removed from a black person in america 4) he grew up in indonesia & hawaii those aren't the most black places on the planet. you're showing a lack of research now my friend. wake up

[Fatal616]

Nope already knew all that, also knew you are black and you saw a black man and went YAY which was the point here. Meanwhile you ignore the fact he plans to attack Afghanistan, Pakistan, said nukes are a possibility for Iran, voted yes on extending the patriotic act, yes for banning guns (which allowing gun carry actually REDUCES crime), and yes for national statsi - look up gestapo beginnings if you don't understand that.

[upabittoolate]

no idiot, you made assumptions. what's more though, none of what you said makes him a "war monger" but an heir apparent to things left to him by his predecessor. if you think that carrying a gun reduces crime, you should see per capita crime stats on states that allow ccw permits. again, it looks like you haven't done any research

[Fatal616]

Omg, learn to read. Once again.

"THE FIRST STEP must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN.

As President, I would DEPLOY AT LEAST TWO additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations and support NATO's efforts against the Taliban." -OBAMA

THAT MAKES HIM A WAR MONGER. 2 + 2 = 4

[upabittoolate]

i can read just fine, it's you who elected NOT to read. evidence: you didn't address the question. how many men is a brigade & why send them? it's my supposition that it would be to help protect the men already there. but more than that, pulling out haphazardly would be a very bad move. it's tantamount to pulling a a knife out of a stabbed man's lung (just an analogy). either way though, that's not an act of war but an act to protect the warriors that we sent there. omg 2+2 does = 4 doesn't it?

[Fatal616]

Guns reduce crime, its a fact. 2 cities that do not allow gun carrying, Chicago and DC. Crime has skyrocketed compared to before when gun carrying was allowed. If you were a criminal where are you going to go rob.. Choice a) a store where you know no one else is going to have a gun or b) a store where chances are 5 of the 10 people in the place have a gun too. Common sense you will choose a so you dont end up DEAD.Seriously, use your brain.I also love how you have nothing to respond about Obama

[upabittoolate]

btw, you haven't looked at PER CAPITA crime rates in states that allow ccw permits. don't tell about common sense or give me a 'what if' scenario, look at the data. wasn't it you who told me to do research? i responded about obama just fine, i'm still waiting for you to present some hard data (properly interpreted) to confirm what you're saying. i'll wait

[Fatal616]

Even that data still shows the crime is lower. I live in chicago, i think i would know. The crime has gone way up. We have higher rates than those WITH guns. Show me anything that says otherwise. You cant.

LOOK IT UP YOURSELF. GOOGLE "Obama outlines policy of endless war" You are so blind.

[upabittoolate]

you're showing me that you have not actually looked at the data. i told you to look at per capita crime in ccw states. i lived in chicago until 2004 so don't give me that bullshit. you evidently don't understand much about crime let alone cause & effect. not only are you blind but you're stupid too. i've had enough. see you in november idiot

[Fatal616]

Actually i did, i gave you links. What do you have? I see nothing. You didnt answer my Q either. Youre a criminal - Where you going to commit your crimes? a)state where most citizens own and carry a gun at all times. or b) place where guns are banned and every citizen is helpless leaving them at your mercy. HMMMM. thats a tough one ay.

[upabittoolate]

don't get me wrong, i love peace & i hate war BUT the reality is that our leadership MUST do what's in america's best interest. granted, we should not be ther in the 1st place but now that we're there, we gotta try to make something out of it all. dig?

[Fatal616]

Our best interests? Spending BILLIONS on war and unnecessary death? Destroying the constitution? Let me remind you Obama supported the patriotic act and recently proposed a national statsi. Digging our economy into the ground so some oil companies can profit of it? Manufacturing consent is the name of the game, The bottom line is money. You are so blind to these facts it is amazing, their propaganda works quite well.

[upabittoolate]

research? pull your head out of your ass moron

[sickmessiah]

Othere then the distortion from bass .. Sounds like it was a good show .. All thats missing is hard core lighting ....

[REZN8]

Yeah the bass, *sigh* My first time taking my new camera to a show, So I learned I can either be front and center and have shitty video or stand somewhere to have decent audio, Then end of the show I was off to the side, Audio turned out better, working on getting it uploaded!

[MUN7001]

no no, Dragons of ZYnth lol