Charlton Heston speaks about Civil Rights

[JohnBrownsArmy]

I must admit I am surprised by his comments and had made assumptions about him....It makes me realize that I too need to not stereotype anyone, even rightwingers! THough they make me so frustrated ! :)

[dcs002]

When was this aired?

I really want to know. Civil rights were easy for Hollywood to endorse in the mid to late 1960's, but when Hubert Humphrey stuck his neck out in 1948 it was quite risky.

I'm no fan of Heston. I detest the NRA, and I think he's always been a one-dimensional actor, but I'm moved by his words in this short clip. It would mean more to me if I knew when he said them. Thanks!

[dcs002]

@dcs002 I answered my own question - August, 1963, before Kennedy's death. I'm officially impressed! Another lesson for me about not judging a person based on one aspect of their life. Again, I detest the NRA, which he led, but it was pretty bold of him to make such a public stand, appearing alongside African-Americans on television, before the Kennedy assassination and before the civil rights reforms were actually passed by Congress. Three cheers for that Heston!

[greyfoxzero]

Watching this brings to mind the famous phrase "let my people go".

[evilunixuser1]

Nigger, spook, porch monkey, fence hopper, jungle bunny, monkey, black beauty, shine, etc. Does it matter? All are derogatory. But alas, us poor white folks are not afforded all the terms.

[SonnyKarlyle]

@theonlyone246 Whey do stupid ass white people have to use the word nigger??? You wouldn't say that word on the south side of Chicago or l.a. .... White people are the biggest bunch of dumb ass enbread hicks on the plant!! And you have the nerve to use the word nigger??? Grow up!!!!!

[evilunixuser1]

@SonnyKarlyle - so if a black person can call another black person 'nigger' - what is so wrong about a white person saying the same?

[rack1956]

@SonnyKarlyle - If white people are so "dumb ass" as you put it, why can't your dumb ass spell "inbred" or "planet" correctly?? And YOU have the nerve to call us "stupid ass white people"... Sounds like you need to go Occupy a school....

[rack1956]

@rack1956 - the last post is @theonlyone246.

[whogotpurpz]

This guy was simply not completely stupid like many of the white people. Civil rights for all is a simple idea, and black people were obviously human beings just like everyone else to the intelligent.

[BEARARMZ]

@theonlyone246 thought about it. youre an asshole

[mse1576]

@icthruu4evr

Nothing confusing about it....He liked guns and personal liberty, and wished Black people to have the same.

[Saebeck32]

@mse1576 But most people like Heston support the "personal liberty" of business owners to ban blacks from their restaurants.  That is Ron Paul's position still today!

[mse1576]

@Saebeck32 While he's officially a Republican, Ron Paul is a wholehearted libertarian. I do not think he supports segregation personally, but would probably turn the other way on such acts, and have courts decide who should be coming to restaurants. I do not agree with this. Nor would Heston. He marched in support of civil rights.

[Saebeck32]

@mse1576 I agree that Ron Paul does not personally support segregation, but he is INDIFFERENT when it comes to allowing it to return. That is also the position of his son Rand. This attitude marginalizes the great sacrifice of people who endured beating in the 1960's at sit-ins to desegregate lunch counters.

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 I'm pretty sure both Rand and Ron are absolutely against public (or Government mandated) segregation. What Rand and Paul are concerned about is the intrusion of the federal Government into the operation of private businesses on private property. No different in theory then our modern day all boy schools, NAACP, BET, all black college fraternities, parochial Christian schools, ladies restroom, sports that prohibit handicap players, etc. They advocate free markets, not compulsory rules.

[Saebeck32]

@isaias1776 That may very well be, but they do support allowing restaurants to segregate again. That ignores the beatings people endured at sit-ins in the 1960's to desegregate lunch counters.

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 I see it this way. We support allowing supremacists to publish their racist opinions. Not because we support supremacists or their racist opinions, but because we support everyone's right to free speech and a free press. Consider this fundamental right to expression afforded to all. Look at major bookstores, do you think these racists are getting promoted by B&N, or doing well in sales? No. That is the free market. If the Government prohibits their books, they may also restrict us.

[Saebeck32]

@isaias1776 I agree with you. But you are not acknowledging the truth. Say it with me, Rand and Ron Paul are ok with whites only businesses returning. Now you say it.

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 Well, the way you propose the notion is misleading. It's almost a double standard, or is it? I could say the same. Say it with me, Saebeck32 and isaias1776 are OK with supremacists publishing their racist opinions. Now you say it. See what I mean? What would you say of a White Entertainment Channel? What do you think about the self segregating Negro College Fund, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, all black ALPHA BETA GAMA Fraternity, or an Urban Hair Salon?

[Saebeck32]

@isaias1776 Publishing thoughts is different than denying the MINORITY access to goods and services that are open to the public. Ya ever wonder why black people don't share your and the Paul's position? What if all the business owners in a town are white, and the town has a large black population. What are the black people in that town suppose to do if the businesses adopt a whites only policy? Move to a new town? What if they don't have the means? Who is the current law hurting??

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 Now we're dealing with an endless amount of hypothetical and scenarios. How about a Jewish man who is traveling through South Texas and can't find one Kosher restaurant or food mart? Will he hunger and die? Should we demand that every town sell Kosher food? What black town doesn't have businesses that are owned by blacks? These really are desperate notions. Move to a new town? Many new business owners would, in a heart beat, move in and make tons of money there servicing blacks also.

[Saebeck32]

@isaias1776 That is entirely different and you know it. No one is saying your grocery store must carry certain products...but if you're open to the public, you're open to the public. You can't discriminate on the basis of race. You don't know how rampant racism still is, so why take a chance? Racism is far from dead. Try going to a Fox News Tea Party rally sometime and you'll see what i mean.

[Saebeck32]

@isaias1776 Oh congratulations. You found the 5 black Fox News Tea Party members. Now you just need to get the other 94% of African Americans who consistently vote democrat to come over to your side. Do you ever stop and wonder why that is? It's positions like that of Ron Paul that drive blacks away from your side.

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 Don't forget about these other TEA Party racists: watch?v=bGkL8Gk1NC4 watch?v=b29uWpMVx0I watch?v=124geu01qFk watch?v=LhUSyJ3VnF0 watch?v=fdb-CxVjcQg watch?v=7ZqcHobg6UY watch?v=mC9X5moico4 watch?v=v3dhmp-735A watch?v=tbYXAq4qy_0

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 Here are more TEA Party racists: watch?v=PcsnWLLdl70 watch?v=kJQitsH3s2Q watch?v=gUAnNlg943M watch?v=QcDG2qgIdQw watch?v=hX864fXR1A0 watch?v=0o03Ow1ad5s watch?v=_vm7Vckdd4A watch?v=XrgV9vBXmRw watch?v=QCEvZjdy3Go watch?v=gMCwtBcV_rE watch?v=dEBFdCGhOcE watch?v=cK3HTPpKXg4 watch?v=GaSRkFeyawk watch?v=ALZu3DoTlMI

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 Have you ever been to a TEA Party? You should watch these clips and learn something about your fellow Americans.

[boblackey1]

@isaias1776 The TEA Party movement is not racist here in my area according to friends who are members. I'm not & have never been to a meeting. But the problem for those in the TEA party who are very concerned about government getting too big & poking to many regulations & rules into our lives is it attracts racists. So at any given meeting, a minority of people there are racist. But there are a minority of blacks, hispanics etc who agree with the main agenda also there.

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 Both my parents are from El Salvador. I'm Hispanic. I'm a US citizen born in California. I went to a TEA party oriented rally in DC a month ago. Two very gracious old ladies there came up to me and chatted with me. They were very kind. They offered me some water and told me about themselves. I had another nice man start a conversation with me about politics. Another lady offered me some food. Another man complimented me and the US flag I was carrying, and told me thanks for coming.

[isaias1776]

@Saebeck32 I've been to Conservative meetings or speeches. They've been very welcoming to me. I've had great conversations with them. The racists I deal with are Liberals or Democrats who can't accept that I'm Conservative and Republican. They tell me I can't be that because I'm Hispanic. That is bigoted and disrespectful. I can think for myself. I have to deal with Progressive politicians who believe I must be dependent on the Gov, and that I can't take care of myself, because I'm Hispanic.

[TheJackiemickie]

The Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms is the greatest civil right that there is, the nazis are the gun grabbers that hate the Constitution and the individual freedom that it was written to protect.

[olivemike81]

@TheJackiemickie The right to free speech, the right to assemble and the right to freedom of religion are the greatest civil rights we have. Freedom of speech is the greatest right because it does the most to ensure we will never have to use our guns. It allows us to speak out against government and change things in a peaceful manner.

[Luieburger]

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!! WOOOOO! Civil rights for all!!!

[FantasticBob7000]

ha ha they're all slumped over in their chairs looking miserable.

[rafiki524]

Cocktail parties? Watch the rest of the round table. This guy I tolerate the least.

[Hadeydeppio]

even more reason to love this guy<3

[utterlyviolet]

In April of 2008, when Heston died, I knew for a fact while I was morning the loss of one of my first heroes, others were in some way celebrating the death of a gun nut.

[Robway034]

Whether or not Mr. Heston's voracity as a Human Rights/Civil Rights activist is proven in this piece, there is little nexus to his stance on guns and the over arching mission of the NRA. The NRA's history has been mixed and ever changing from the very beginning and the modern NRA bares little to very few if any of its previous iterations. None-the-less, Heston took a stance on the rights of the individual as an American Citizen. One could argue that gun ownership falls into the same scope

[osgeek]

@MrBEB123 Why do we need to "save the White race", exactly?  How about we save the human race?

[MrBEB123]

@osgeek There is no "human race", if there were then the word race would not even be needed. There are different races which has been clearly established by scientists who work in that field and many books have been written on that subject. The phase human race was invented within the last few decades along with other trite expressions by liberals such as "color of skin" among others for the purpose of trivializing racial issues. Race matters, Religion matters and liberals are liars.

[osgeek]

@MrBEB123 Well, yes, the term "human race" is rescoping of the word "race" to be more inclusive of all homo sapiens. But you miss the point. We're all in this together. White people aren't going anywhere without black people in this country. We're not jumping into a whites-only space ship that's going to take us to planet Cracker where we'll live happy sunshine lives without those who are different in our midsts. Learning how to help each other move forward is the only realistic solution.

[peterwatsonkent]

A brilliant man. A man of true character. A renaissance man!!!!!!

[diagreen]

Im a lifetime liberal but iv loved this man since i was 3 yrs old.he may be the greatest actor ever.mike moore lost all real credibility in my eyes when he bullied CHUCK near the end of his life.i sure miss him.i know he was sick but i wish he couda held on longer.R.I.P

[docmalthus]

@diagreen Heston was great, but the greatest actor was also in attendance at that roundtable....Marlon Brando.

[diagreen]

@docmalthus cant disagree because there all in the same class but as the great richard harris once said," marlon brando could not remember his lines".when brando would look to the side and say his lines he was often reading them posted on a wall or cue card".Chrisopher Reave said how brando would bully him and mock him onset during superman even while Reave was trying to do his scenes.i wish we could all go back in time.the best actors,musicians,athletes were all around back then

[docmalthus]

@diagreen Oh, Brando could be horrible to work with. Robert Mitchum, when asked how he would feel about working with Brando said, "Brando doesn't work WITH anybody!" Richard Harris, after 'Mutiny on the Bounty', would certainly agree! I'm simply saying that Brando was the best actor. Jack Nicholson, among others, will back me up on that.

[diagreen]

@docmalthus thanks for the quote from another great R Mitchum.Richard Harris was terrible to iv read.He was a pain in the ass onset even in gladiator. i think he behaved himself on harry potter because his grand daughter said shed never forgive him if he didn't appear in the film.like i said.i cant disagree with you.BRANDO WAS MAGNETIC.I think ill watch Acop now tonight. the original version.

[jsrl317]

I have always loved Charlton Heston. He was one of the very few actors who lobbied and made sure blacks were written into scripts. He wrote characters with dignity and strength, and were not subservient. Planet of the Apes is one such movie, where you see a futuristic black astronaut. All of his movies had black characters in significant roles o the story. Soylent Green for instance, where he worked for a black police chief.

He was a pioneer. RIP Moses.

[tincan77]

I'm a lefty who happens to love guns, so Mr. Heston is right up my alley. I'm annoyed that so many libbies are total wimps nowadays. Sure, the pacifism of MLK Jr was critical to success of the movement, but liberals gotta realize that reactionaries aren't so intimidating when you've got a rifle strapped across your back.

[jfulbright]

You know, Heston seems to have been of the "let me alone to do what I want to" school. This would explain his love of gun rights. I didn't agree with him on the gun thing, but his laissez faire attitude really meant that you had to give people rights and let them do with them what they wish. Didn't always agree with him, but he was certainly right on this one.

[DRBeadel]

I am a " leftie " I suppose(a traditional republican disgusted with the GOP therefore voting left/indy) Mr. Heston was a great great man!

[FStaff63]

The Left reserves their most despicable vitriol for those, like Mr. Heston, who expose their lies with class, dignity, and honor.

[Slave2Reason]

The left hated Heston, because the left if hypocritical and intellectually lazy!

[jollyrogerk9]

@Slave2Reason To expand on what you said, The Left is morally & intellectually bankrupt.

[buzzclick500]

No political party is interested in anybody's rights. Once a political party becomes "official" and accepted, it begins to implement plans for the collective betterment of ITS members. Our Constitution is very cool and aloof on this idea. Our national law is our national law, and applies almost exclusively to our government's abilities and dis-abilities. We were intended to be a Capitalist anarchy. Let's get going, shall we?

[buzzclick500]

Liberals love their words. It's only fitting that the PROPER use of words from another camp will be their undoing. The revolution will not be televised, and the in-person debates will not be moderated. I think it's safe to say that there will be blood.

[buzzclick500]

Once you say "I'm a liberal", you're saying, "If the government wants it, I'm all for it." You'll have your turn in the barrel, trust and believe. Trust and believe. 47 years of madness is cracking at the seams. Probably not a good idea to be standing in front of it when it goes.

[chrissy100194]

Here is the man the left defiled for his stand as the leader of the NRA...

[mindspring57]

No reasonable person is opposed to equal opportunity for all persons.  What is objectionable, however, is the idea that equal results are required regardless of effort.

[buzzclick500]

It's wise to keep in mind that since 1933, our public service staff(government)has been driven by one focused goal: to keep the American people divided against ourselves with any tool they can come up with, including contrived inside-out concepts like "unity". If someone owns a restaurant and doesn't want to serve certain people, or types of people, for whatever their personal reasons, isn't that their RIGHT? Don't they have that FREEDOM? Yes, they do.

[buzzclick500]

Anything Hollywood regards as "fashionable" should be held in suspicion. If it's "fashionable" and "popular", there's a lot of money involved. Ever notice how they always go after the youngest and least seriously educated people? Very much like the military.

[Vitte4]

For someone who so strongly supported civil rights, he certainly came to worship the weapons that destroyed the lives of so many of his black sisters & brothers ...

[buzzclick500]

@Vitte4 : People cannot be required by any outside opinion or force to think about every single consequence of every little thing they say or do. Inmates in prison have more freedom than that. Racial thinking is a sign of low intelligence, but it is NOT illegal, and these people who use it to manipulate their own little agenda will meet their day of accountability. Equal Justice Under LAW. Not gripes and grievances.

[buzzclick500]

@Vitte4 : He supported our Constitution, which makes no mention of race. It is not lawful for our government to involve itself in race or religion. Its functions are very limited, and there's a reason for that: so Americans can live our lives as we choose. Our government is our national service staff, and needs to conduct itself accordingly.

[Vitte4]

@buzzclick500 Our difference of perceptions here hinge, at least in part, on whether our starting point for our national identity is the Declaration of Independence ("all men are created equal") or the Constitution.

[buzzclick500]

@Vitte4 : Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" ignited the passion to inspire our Declaration of Independence. My take is that all men are CREATED equal: there's no reason they have to remain that way.

[Sentierius]

How is it that Charlton Heston's support of the Civil Rights movement and his presidency of the NRA have to be classified as the actions of two different people? where is it said that one is forced to have such thickly dividing political lines? who can say with authority that Heston's endorsement of one forces him to exclude the other? I can accept that time and shifting political climates may have forced him to pick simple partisan sides later in life, but I honor his life on the whole.

[jovanrameau]

@Sentierius

Bravo

Brovo!!!

[ghostzapper2006]

Maybe this video will enlighten some mindless far right whacko flat earthers that Heston had some brains in his earlier days. As for the NRA representing civil liberties = lmfao nutjob. The NRA is little more than a washinton DC special interest lobby for the arms and gun manufacturing industry. The only civil rights they care about are those that put money in the pockets of gun makers. lol

[scythelord]

@ghostzapper2006 You're obviously a misinformed child. Heston was equally level headed when it came to the NRA as he was with civil rights back then. Guns are not a bad thing. Get that in your head. Gun control is BAD and only increases crime rates. Proven as fact through all peer reviewed studies. Heston was right for supporting the NRA. Any opposition is living in a fantasy world.

[buzzclick500]

@scythelord : Whenever our government puts the squeeze on something or prohibits it, we know that the government somehow profits from that prohibition. I'm a positive person who likes people, but as time goes on, I find myself speaking to people with ties to the government as the owner of a house would speak to a hired member of the servant staff, because that's what they are. They are not the friends of the American people, and can never be.

[dizzypilots1]

@ghostzapper2006 the gun makers have their own lobby you twit,its the NSSF .so go tell lies somewhere else.

[sabonisrules]

He'll get those civil rights from his COLD DEAD HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ldaccardi]

i miss this great man, good job 41

[buzzclick500]

"Civil rights" is a contrived, distractive issue. American civil rights are set forth in the Constitution for ALL Americans. This nonsense about civil rights for "certain sectors" of the American population has done a lot of damage to the MAJORITY of Americans, whom the Constitution protects. The drumbeat mantra of "minority" this and "minority" that is bound to bring serious consequences to it's proponents because in America, it's ILLEGAL.

[dizzypilots1]

@buzzclick500 you tell it like it is!

[heyeveryoneimcool]

What year is this?

[Dava1000]

Unfortunately Most Americans dont read or think and have short memories....Heston was very brave for taking this position publicly but it got overshadowed by his NRA activism which is really about individual rights not racism and murder as he was identified with late in his life...

[buzzclick500]

@Dava1000 : Let's see if our memories get jogged when we are turned out of our homes and into the street--for being lazy and stupid and careless. Do you think that might wake us up?

[PuudaMaggui]

Exactly! Even though I hate the hardcore majority within the NRA and gun rights activism in its current form, I will always support Heston for his Civil Rights work.

[StillClinging]

A great video, maybe it will inlighten some narrow minded liberals [George Clooney]as to who this man really was. A true American who stands for civil liberties where ever they are being violated. Let us all please remember the first, oldest, and truest civil rights organization is the NRA.

[PuudaMaggui]

You can think Heston was a great and true American and still think that the NRA and a majority of its active members are twats....

[buzzclick500]

@PuudaMaggui : And even great and true Americans can grow old, tired and senile. Benjamin Franklin, President Reagan, Charlton Heston, etc. Greatness is an action, not a continuous, granted state of personal being. I've done some genuinely great things, and some really stupid ones, too. Ultimately, we're all just PEOPLE.

[jovanrameau]

@buzzclick500

Well stated, even Socrates would agree with you.

-jovan rameau

[buzzclick500]

@jovanrameau : Thank you. ;]

[tgoodfella]

@StillClinging that doesnt make alot of sense, it was majority of liberals who supported the civil rights movment. Many moderate conservatives like heston states believed in it but never openly expressed support for it so many who may wanted it never publicly broadcasted their view due to the conservative base not for civil rights, kind of like what you have now with civil unions for gay people.

[subsamadhi]

@StillClinging he was a hypocrite because after he was talking about "civil rights", he became a gun toting republican. Republicans aren't actually interested in civil rights, you realize that, correct? They want to be able to have money and valuables at the expense of the people who REALLY are for civil rights (minority groups, the oppressed, etc.). Republicans routinely piss on people like that.

[wheelinthesky300]

@subsamadhi Heston was for gun rights even before he was involved in the 1960s Civil Rights movement.

Heston was never a Republican.

He was originally a Democrat, then an Independent.

So if you are a wealthy Republican,

you want to make money at minorities expense?

How do you know that?

Could you give some examples?

[subsamadhi]

@wheelinthesky300 they don't necessarily make money off them (except they send them to die in wars, incarcerate them in larger percentages than whites, etc). I'd have to look into modern exploitation of minorities. Save to say the way in which Mexicans and others are basically used for slave labor in agriculture and such. Back in the day slavery was used against them. I'm sure not all republicans are a part of this ilk.

[wheelinthesky300]

@subsamadhi Allow me to continue educating you

-the Vietnam War, where lots of minorities were sent off to die,

was the brainchild of LBJ, the most liberal Democratic President up to his time.

Mexicans are indeed as slave labor

-and many Republicans want that to end, and most Democrats love the idea of cheap peasant labor running the border illegally.

I am not promoting Republicans over Demcorats,

just against baseless statements.

[subsamadhi]

@wheelinthesky300 "baseless statements"....so my statement wasn't baseless but you called me out on it anyway? Does not compute.......

[buzzclick500]

@subsamadhi : Our Constitution guarantees a republican form of government. Our Constitution also specifically includes civil rights for AMERICANS in its text. Our Constitution, furthermore, makes it clear that the MAJORITY view takes priority in all instances. This modern obsession with "minority" issues is contrived by hostile elements and influence to keep Americans divided against ourselves.

[subsamadhi]

@buzzclick500 well, so you pretty much just reiterated what I said but you are trying to justify what that entails, or at least explain it. Yawn. I don't need someone parroting back at me what I am saying but without the moral condemnation.

[buzzclick500]

@subsamadhi : Oh, be quiet. I'm watching NICO strip-tease. That's better, thank you. ;]

[subsamadhi]

@buzzclick500 it is pretty good, isn't it? Too bad she died a fool's death. And lived a fools' life for that matter.  She was still hot in her prime.

[buzzclick500]

@subsamadhi : Yikes, that's sad. One of the down-sides of preserved communication is that we find out that someone we like to watch performing hasn't occupied the living world for some time.

[sawardracng5]

@StillClinging | I'm afraid Clooney's head is wedged much too far up where the sun does not shine to ever have the grace to realize what a vicious thing he said about Chuck Heston. I'm a stalwart liberal, but I adore Chuck Heston & not solely because he remained easy on the eyes until well into his 70s (I'm 42). Nor am I the type of liberal who has to "forgive" him his passion for the 2nd Amendment; as a lawyer, I love & swore to protect the entire Constitution! He was a helluva man!

[buzzclick500]

@sawardracng5 : There's no such thing as a "stalwart liberal". That's like praising a tick for its persistence. Liberals will forgive anyone who gives up a little blood now and then. You wouldn't know the Constitution if it wrapped itself around your face and smothered you.

[sawardracng5]

@buzzclick500 | Luckily men such as Mr. Heston had much better manners and far more brains than you. I was not trying to disturb whatever rocks and mud you were sleeping under, so kindly go back.

[buzzclick500]

@sawardracng5 : You've signed up to be a liberal, so you have to talk the party line to the bitter end. I don't blame you, you're just performing for what you signed on to. It's a form of honor in its own way. Americans may have to forsake the manners for a while, as they have a tendency to work against us in the clinch. When you're under attack by something hostile, all bets are off, and the teeth and nails have to be brought out. Temporarily, anyway.

[buzzclick500]

@sawardracng5 : You disturbed the rocks and mud that a lot of Americans have been maturing under for several decades. We're not tired of hiding, you understand, we're like a nation of cicadas--it's simply time for us to appear and flourish. Mr. Heston had his season and his age, and did some good. It's time for new energy.

[Bobsyermomsuncle]

@StillClinging I remember this. He was steadfast in support and got right out there on the streets. Chuck was considered a liberal. His attitude towards guns was a typical for someone raised in the Dearborn/Detroit MIchigan area, don't care what complexion, political party or spectrum you were part of.

[JackKlompus13]

@StillClinging

Why on Earth is the NRA the "truest civil rights organization?"

[NorcalEdward]

@StillClinging "Enlighten"

[gormarx]

@StillClinging National Retards' Association, yes. Defend oneself, against whom? Your own police and military? An armed invasion from Mexico or Canada? NRA, like KKK, is a bunch of demented, inbred rednecks, hicks, trailer trash and other kinds of apes.

Talking about retardation as the result of incest among hillbillies, the English word is "ENLIGHTEN", whereas there is no such term as "INLIGHTEN" - thanks for making it so easy to prove exactly what I meant.

[olivemike81]

@StillClinging So, are you a Republican? Do you support the right of gay people to marry?

[TimSchohdesmoines]

@StillClinging

The founding fathers were so sure that freedom was not the natural state of mankind that many of them publicly stated that a violent (i.e. weapons and death) revolution would need to occur every generation. As it would take only a single generation for rights won to be lost. FREEDOM always has been, and always will be, bought with blood. People hate hearing that, because cowardice is more natural to the human condition than freedom.

[scasey1960]

Urgently now?  What the ... ??

[KingCharltonHeston]

Fascinating to see the man back in the day.

[phone3792]

Heston should be given his due for willing to stand up and be counted for civil rights in the 50s- he is not perfect sure- but he did more than most in his position

[slicerprime]

There are those who don't understand how Heston, the man identified with civil rights and gun control in the sixties, could become identified with the NRA in the nineties. I see no conflict. Heston himself said @ "I didn't change,the democratic party changed," True enough. Heston believed in an ideal of equality in the sixties and became disillusioned as his party became vote-happy and lost its focus. Being practical, he turned to a party that wanted to do good under JUST the constitution

[stevevandien]

I admire Heston -- having been born in 1959, I was around one or another of his movies for more that 20 years:) -- and you are exactly correct. There is no logical barrier between supporting full citizenship for African-Americans in the 1960s and supporting the rights of law-abiding citizens to own firearms in the 90s --

[sierria64]

truely as a person that is black born in the 1960's , i have found that he was a person that choose to address the cause for equality ..... being who he was and showing what he beleived in

[Bestmanme08]

Great new bio (Charlton Heston: An Incredible Life: Revised Edition) at amazon!

[imbeatles]

lol,,, hsuh little boy,,, i dont live in that invader country,,, dont worry... never will... i prefer the good life...

[fuzzball67]

Each country has their positives and their negatives. I have lived in 3 countries and visited a few others. As a member of the United States military I stood between people who wanted to ethnically cleanse their neighbors. And while I have some doubts about the wisdom of going into Iraq, I also don't think letting a dictator and his insane sons torture and starve the people they were supposed to care for was right, either. Those who sit on the sides and let others commit evil are no better.

[imbeatles]

im sorry, theres no wisdom in going to iraq, and the bush administration did tortures also,,, how to call that?... a dictador democracy?... of course i do not support hussein,,, i hope he burning in hell right know,,, but i dont see a big difference between him and g.w.bush... theres evil in both sides...

[fuzzball67]

The first big difference is that if the United States Congress and the Attorney General would investigate, find the evidence and present it to a federal grand jury, then Bush could be put on trial. The 2nd big difference is that after 2 terms in office, George Bush is no longer president of The U. S. The "dictator democracy" has moved on to someone that many people hope will move the U.S. to once again a more peaceful democracy. Didn't see Saddam willing to peacfully cede his power.

[imbeatles]

you´re right in that one, didn´t see either saddam willing to peacfully cede his power, but i saw a guy who´s nothing have to do in that terroçitory declaring a war for convenience,,, with the consecuence we all already know... spending the half of the us money, etc... anyway,, its a never ending discussion,,, im out... greetins to you and is nice to find some people to "talk" on the other side of the world... bye...

[chukmaty]

How i this on topic?

[imbeatles]

burn in hell heston... fuckin´ fascist

[conservative75]

another faggot white immigrant, we should deport these white fucks back to europe

[fuzzball67]

I'm sorry. Please go to the dictionary and look up the term fascist and then come back and tell me how someone who supports individual liberties is a fascist.

[imbeatles]

supports individual liberties??... thats the typical speech pal... they always say that supports human rights, the democracy, etc, but they´re not. heston was the typical republican, nothing good can be found there. bush have been repeating the same speech for years and the only thing he done was invade 2 countries without care, killing and saving his money... they say something but they do another,,, just like heston

[fuzzball67]

Seems to me that you are using the awful wide paintbrush there. One would almost say that you are bigoted and prejudiced against "typical republicans", of which Heston was one. I am not going to be a Bush protector, but I would submit that Afghanistan and Iraq are two different situations. The former was definitely being used as a safe-haven to plan attacks on The United States, and reveled in that position.

Heston in the later parts of his life focused on one civil right in particular.

[THiggs09]

So when he marched with king he was not supporting civil lliberties? Saving money? War cost money and I recall everyone wanting to go to war the second 9/11 happened. People then got upset because of deaths. There is no war without casualties on either side and they all knew this. Was Heston also lying when he spoke against gun control? This mand supported individual liberties whether you think so or not. Civil rights, the 2nd amendment, and was a great actor.

[THiggs09]

How can someone who supports civil right, individual liberties, and spoke out against gun control. He was for the constitution not against it. In what way is he a fascist.

[grasspa]

A Great American

[snoops71]

That was very cool...

[fuzzball67]

Why no. As he put it, he was into the civil rights movement before it was Hollywood fashionable to be part of it. Take a count and see how many Hollywood stars of the era can put "Marched with Doctor King" on their resume'.

[Jetmechanic001]

Damn straight, a lot of these other political and social cowards stood silent until civil rights was "fashionable"

[leirgauk]

wat? isnt he like a nazi or sumthin?