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  • if you lot no so much why is he on t.v and your not?

  • got bitten twice but still smiling? it's really hard to earn money nowadays

  • WOW and after two bad bites ... HE IS STILL CALM !!!!! you have to admire this man :D

  • LOL "this dog's my hero" would you want it to bite the shit out of you? Better yet, if you had little children, would you like this beast to kill them? Think before you say things.

  • @c3nuke notice that the dog only bit cesar when he was pressing with his hand over its eyes...any dog would do that...

  • in my country when dog bit a human we kill it immediatly with hammer or with a gun

  • @SuperKocam

    YOU COUNTRY SUCK DICK !

  • @HoldYourHeadUpAlex fuck you learn how to spell u smelly hillbilly

  • @SuperKocam Then no one in your country should have dogs.

  • At 1:11 Millan was bleeding.And he also got bitten the second time..He is not focus at all unlike his other shows..

  • cesar millan is the best!!

  • It funny how people say he's the "dog abuser" sadly that's not true. He is doing what any pacleader would do be dominate, if you do research on dogs and there history you''ll find out that they would fight and bite each, Cesar just kicking them and touch them is like a walk in the park lol

  • @david98nano really, you should try also watching other specialists and their different methods. some dogs might get very obedient after being trained by cesar, but noone knows if the domination theory is true...and you don't always have to drag a dog around with a tight leash and finger jab it to get its obedience like cesar does...

  • @evacookie913 ahahahhaha !! show me a better one !! :D i watch many many videos on this matter and never find anyone better than Cesar. On top of it i never ever heard Cesar Millan talking bad things about other dog "whisperers" :D national geographic wouldn't love this guy unless there was something mighty unique about him :) nor his shows would be broadcast into 100 countries !!

  • Dangerous dog, no matter how much u train it one day it could bite a child's face off, it deserves to be put down and Cesar is a legend

  • @iMackid97 shut your mouth fat ass.

  • cesar milan is stupid pig ho enjoys assault to dogs by kincking the dogs at the nuts with his foot. bastard !! someone learn him what the real dog whisperer does! the program is called "dog WHISPERER" not dog abuser !!!! go to jail cesar!

  • @weapea a dogs nuts arent right behind its ribs

  • cesar millan is the best and you are and asshole( ratuncitu)

  • WHERE'S THE FUCK IS MY BISCUIT !!!!

  • BITE THAT LITTLE MOTHERFUCKER BACK

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  • is the Graw of the Dog Also Audi Input or is that real "you know when he Bites Cesar you hear the dog Graw,,,or something don`t now how to say that in English

  • bloody useless woman

  • this dude is a fuckin dumbass spick... how many times was he bitten before?

  • Cesar! wa can i say! dis guy simply rocks, jus sayin 4m my own experience:

    im from Pakistan where mostly Dogs are trained to become fighter dogs, we even hav our own local fighter breed named "bully kutta". n let m tell u, dah jus by watchin da show i got interested in dogs and i had no past experience infact i was afraid of dogs, ba now i got 4 dogs, a German shepherd, buly kutta, rottweiler, American bit bull, if dey eva misbehave all i gotta do is to say 'HAY'! even 4m far, end of story !!

  • hahaha he didnt get a finger was just playing

  • Bad dog,bad dog,if kind persuasion,pacifying & calming is not enuf,its fine,but suc continuous unprovoked attack realy cant b tolerated on,luk lyk d only way of gettin around dis sitch is lettin him ave the Hose there right in front him & I truly mean lettin him have it,dis is truly 1 vicious pooch,unprovoked,yet its givin dis gud man sum clamps at the hand,its time I say let it ave the Ol' heel & with cowboy spurs on,sumtimes its betta 2 trit it w/ whip & chair,than d alternativ of a put down

  • Well from what I see I say that he was probably hungry,,...... very hungry :)

  • Hasta un manejador de víboras comete errores. No se si me explico.

  • Equivocarse es humano. No importa que tan bueno sea uno. Siempre hay un margen de error. Aprendan eso. Va para las personas que opinan en contra de Cesar Millan.

  • Someone needs to invent a device that interprets the dogs' brainwave frequency. Then, the next step is to know what the dog is thinking. The dog may be upset with its' food, or it has a parasite. Dogs rarely cause trafic jams or film porno movies. Yes, this is a threat to many snotty types.

  • Do any of you Milan supporters actually see what he's doing to the dog here? First he's setting it up to fail by offering it the hose. Then, when it does the behaviour he's supposed to be avoiding he presses his thumbs into its eyes to get it to release. Is anyone surprised he was bitten? This poor dog had no option but to fail this test. The man is a mongrel of the lowest order.

  • ceasar millan is a homo

  • = sigh = i don't know what wrong with you He can both sneak Spain and English. go see "Wikipedia the free anchorpeople" this said "— providing him with an English tutor for a year" ---- you would Leave cesar millan Alone!! = sigh =

  • i don't think anything Cesar did here taught that dog ANYTHING. if he wanted to teach it who is the boss, it didn't work because the dog nipped him twice. he's trying to enforce his male machismo on dogs to control them, which doesn't "teach" them, and using buzz words like "energy" and "their space" doesn't make it more valid. he does appear to get good results, but there's a lot of editing of the episodes to create his "success" stories. and he's not going to show the abject failures is he

  • @OzTerri ok then now show us some proof that cesarmillan havent successfuly Taught the dogs that he trained in all of his successful videos in 20 years. show me at least 5 reports that the dog that he taught is back on being a demon again! go, i dare you! :D

  • I bet he tastes like taco :D

  • @makotomikami HAHAHAHAHA!! LOL ROFL =) So true.

  • He's lucky it wasn't a powerful breed otherwise he would die, but i guess if it was a powerful breed he wouldn't just grab the dog like that.

  • He presses the mouth against the cheeks until the pain causes the dog to release. He is a fucking idiot. Teaching a release command is so easy, but Millan is hypnotized by the idea that the dog was trying to dominate him by biting the hose, so he had to show it who was the boss.

  • @AboutDogTraining3 hes not training the dog, hes rectifying a problem. now your the xpert haha lame comment!

  • @setsfire27, he's hurting the dog for no good reason.

  • @AboutDogTraining3 hurting? Thats hurting? XD dont you know owners that tie their dogs in backyards with almost any water or food..AND No Good Reason! you didnt saw the full Chapter!,the dog was agresive not only with him!Was agresive with all his family!Watch the end and tell me that it was ussless! what he do! He save the life of the dog because it COULD HARM SOMEBODY!. I use the tecnics of cesar to train my dog and i never got bitten by this. This was a extreme case!

  • @lider7182, you make stupid arguments. There are various aspects of abuse and just because you can find worse examples, The point is that he pushes the dog into biting and then punishes the dog for his mistake

  • WHy is this dog your hero? This guy really actually is a doctor in this and he knows what he is doing and all that he says is true and if nothing...Logical!!!

  • Did he just sink his thumbs into the dog's eyes to make it release the hose? What a despicable thing to do. The man is an idiot and a brute.

  • @PhleshWound Have you even watched this episode? He just puts his thumbs on the cheeks of the dog and apply a little pressure so the dog will let go of the water hose.

  • which episode is this?

  • Man this place is full of know it alls and haters.If you cant stand him and hate the programe what on earth are you doing watching him on here. The title clearly states "SPANISH" so why are you insulting it just coz you cant speak it. Go find it in the language you do speak...if any. Insulting people to get you point across shows your limited vocabulary and mind.

  • i train my dog to attack when i say sic em

  • Dog Whisperer should stick to Taco Whispering.

  • I hate this program soooo much cause it's booooooooring!!!!!!!! So I enjoyed seeing that prick ceasar getting wat he deserves!!!!!

  • @Adamthedude19 ah yeah totally,

    I enjoyed reading your comment, because it reminded me of the Jersey episode of southpark

  • @Adamthedude19 wow, i guess its true what they say, some people are so retarded that their iQ goes under 0. i had to see it to believe it. btw if u think this is a joke (cuz i expect u to be that retarded) its not , ppl like u should all live together on a little island in the middle of nowhere and let the island sink verry slowly :) that would be fun.

  • that's what you get from using alpha method. ahahahaha

  • wtf is this mexican saying??? all i know the BULLDOG got em good :)

  • he's a very good dog trainer, not a god....all he wanted to do is help the dog and train the people, so the dog dont get put to sleep......and you wish the dog to continue biting people?

  • @gkcnae i agree with you. wow cesar is so talented. he care so much for the dog....he will get bitten in some cases. its the perk of the job. but without him more dogs would be put to sleep thats for sure

  • If someone put his fingers in my eyes like that, I'd bite him too !!

    I can't understand how National Geographic can support this guy, his nonsense and abuse.

  • That bite would put me off dogs for life!

  • What are he talkin aboush

  • Lies that Cesar tells people? like, "Dont put your dog to sleep?" That's the remedy most of the failures tell people to do, to put their dogs to sleep! Cesar thinks different if it's not what you learn, so what? he has shown it works! and it does! You should meet my friends pit bull!

  • I've seen comments here that are made by rejected dog trainers XD Cesar>You losers =P

  • @AboutDogTraining3

    Dont you know that Cesar is training the trainers :)

    Let see with the bite he got if you would stay calm like he do !!!!!!

  • @SuperMRAgent, Cesar is not a trainer, and he is not training anyone. If you want to do anything with your dog, you don't go to Millan. And if you really want to rehab a dog, you employ the methods of Donaldson or Dr. Overall or Dr. Yin.

  • @SuperMRAgent

    A professional trainer wouldn't have to - because a professional trainer sees to it, that he won't get bitten.

  • Me he dado cuanta que la gran mayoria de personas que no les gusta el metodo de Cesar son estadounidences XD .

  • @EsquizoDudeGirl Es verdad la mitad de ellos jipies mugrosos XD yo prove sus tecnicas cuando mi perro me mordio Y desde entonces no lo volvio nisiquiera a intentar todo lo que dice es verdad y solo llegan a ser asi de agresivos con nosotros!

  • @lider7182

    Oh vamos , despues de todo son comentarion de personas que viven en el pais donde mas se reportan ataques de perro en el mundo . XD En lo perosnas pienso que ese tipo de cosas no deberian pasar , siempre se tiene que pensar en hacer lo mejor para los dogis :) . saludos .

  • @EsquizoDudeGirl Viva Mexico !

  • @EsquizoDudeGirl de hecho si tienes algo de razon, pero aunque no lo creas, tambien son muchos los estadunidenses que si lo apoyan, principalmente porque alla es donde se transmite de origen su programa, asi que habra unos cuantos haters, pero tambien muchos que lo apoyan. La ventaja es que, te apuesto a que ninguno de los que vociferan su envidia tienen un solo video de como entrenar "apropiadamente" a un perro segun ellos.

  • @Trovatore75 I love you! ;) Haha' at least there's somebody who knows something about dogs here.. =)

  • i like how calm he is about it

  • ''El no intenta lastimar a nadie''

    RAWAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

    ouch jkaakjajaa

  • Ese tipo parece chino.

  • amo cesar millan! es un regalo a la humanidad!

  • i cant watch this...XI

  • cesar millan rocks!!! :-)

  • There is something wrong when the most repected names in canine behavior say that Ceasar has put everything we have learned about dog behavior back 40 years. If you want a TRUE dog whisperer, look up Ian Dunbar. He's credited and been training dogs for over 30 years

  • there's another one I just can find the video where he gets bit badly

  • YOU are a FaG

  • you are just jealous ratuncitu that you don't have that gift

  • Bad dog , bad dog. No treats for u...haha

  • He was a limozine driver for a while and got an english tutor from that, that's how he learnt english, and this man's wanted to be the worlds best dog trainer since he was 13. He's only doing what he loves.

  • @intoccabile i agree you do have to be firm & consistent, your dog needs to respect you but also I believe they can like you at the same time, regardless of size! What I've seen Millans dogs don't respect him they're just fearful. Does respect mean fear to you? They are not the same to me...

  • Contd. from below:

     I have never seen a dog hold anothers splayed legs. Come on people WAKE UP! People need to stop calling Millan the 'Whisperer', more like 'Bullier'!!

    When I train my dog I prefer it if he likes me.

  • @JustDogsTV Everyone has different methods. Large breeds though should "respect" you, not "like" you. I own an American Bully, he "likes" my mother but he "respects" me.. I've been firm with him. The 1 person he gravitates to is me. Not the person who holds, cuddles, spoils and plays with him. But the complete opposite. He follows me, sleeps with me, doesn't make a move until I've done it first. Large breeds need a Leader not a 'friend'.

  • Millan is a joke, see how the poor dog redirects the aggression on to him!! This isn't curing an aggressive dog!!!! georgiabeastx is definitely right when comparing with Stillwell. When have you ever seen a dog 'dominate' (or choke) another dog in their pack the way Millan claims is natural in assuming leadership. Eg. Naturally, a submissive roll is an appeasement gesture that is offered to avoid conflict instead of, how Milan suggests, to establish dominance in the throws of war. I have never

  • he just acted like nothing happened...but you know that hurt

  • HE IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • What!! Why is someone speaking spanish for him? He's mexican isn't he?

  • @MikoyCreator He is... In fact he was an illegal until 2000. But the show is from USA, so he has to speak english. Then the show is bought by another country and then is subtitled, or like this one, gets a voice-over.

    This is a latin version of the show. The show itself is from USA, Cesar is speaking english but there's a spanish voice-over (btw, I've heard him speaking spanish and that's not his voice, it's a voice actor).

  • people say he is better than victoria stillwel, she has NEVER been bitten by a dog that she has been training! she is the best dog trainer in the world!

  • Caesar is awesome and people that hate on him are just jealous of his skills.

  • @vladimirsound Its not a skill to kick and choke dogs...

  • he should've stomped the dogs head open while wearing a pair of baseball cleats.

  • wait! people hate on HIM?!!!! wtf

  • I think some people here are stung that a previously illegal immigrant who was a nobody was able to become so wildly successful without any formal training.

    It's easy to harbor resentment towards a person who achieves success without having "paid their dues". While not without flaws, the man does have a gift with dogs.

  • put the dog to sleep. It bit the dog whisperer!

  • 1:13 ha!

    

  • @AboutDogTraining3 I totally agree with you this idiot shouldn't be allow to be a "dog trainer". Positive training is the way to go. and for those who don't agree with this, you obviously don't know shit. Check out TAB289, now this guy knows what he's talking about.

  • The guy is a retard. He starts a fight with the dog for no reason other than push his macho dominance bullshit. Anyone can beat a dog until it stops doing something. It takes a real trainer to teach the dog a desirable behavior.

  • @AboutDogTraining3 """"""""jealous""""""""""""

  • @AboutDogTraining3 you are the retard

  • @phabbiola, you are a fucking shithead.

  • @AboutDogTraining3 me? who is the one spitting it out of his mouth? The one full of it and that is YOU my dear!

    Haaaaaaaaa! Nothing else to say? And what? You are a real trainer? And you can't even control your mouth or yourself on youtube? How do you want to control a dog or teach him something? Loo...er

  • @phabbiola, why don't you learn about dog trainng from experts in stead of relying on a celebrity dog  groomer

  • @AboutDogTraining3 If you think you are a Dog Trainer... Show to the world how you do it and then all the people will tell you how good you really are :)... I'm pretty sure that you won't do it cuz you know that Cesar is the master of masters. Good Luck. :)

  • @megarastek, I've pointed out the lies that Millan tells people many times. In order to understand them, you have to read...

  • my god! what is wrong with you people!? this man is awesome!! look at it this way: would you want a dog to come up and attack you or even kill you or would you want that man to go to the people and actually help them to train the dog?!

  • @HARMONYbazaarGIRL11 i agree with you. i don't know why what is wrong with that people? Cesar is awesome!!! because i hate read comment! = sigh =

  • @evelplay36 im glad SOMEONE agrees lol

  • al that shit that your talking cesar is wonderful i would kil to work with this men ,what an incredible genius

  • Why doesn't he do his own spanish voice overs? :\

  • Cesar is absolutely terrible. He works by pressure, fear and force !

  • @chabbele I think dominance is more the word but lets not get into a philosophical debate lol

  • @chabbele I think he's great, and he doesn't really use fear, more dominance. They'e animals. They need structure and order. Dogs are not going to learn by patting them on the back the whole time, other wise there is no consequences for them.

  • Cesar Milan is a joke, what a stupid loser... I love this dog, I just wish it was a pitbull...

  • @turtle1129 if with joke you meen people who kick ass and with loser you meen people who actually do something usefull with their lifes instaid of writing stupid comment on youtube than yes you are correct cesar is a joke and a loser :D

  • What an idiot, he starts a fight with the dog. That's not rehabilitation.

  • @AboutDogTraining3 You gotta address the problem to rehabilitate the dog. Dog is bound to put up a fight. It's not his intention to fight the dog, but the dog (especially a bulldog lol) is gonna put up a fight for whatever his problem is (I'm guessing some sorta obsession/agression with the hose).

  • @ExplodingPea, the dog is not 'bound' to fight. He fights back because Millan is an immediate threat to him. Whether Millan's intention is to fight or not, it doesn't matter - He always fights the dog. It's is so easy to get dogs to resolve this problem - however the procedure is slow and not TV friendly because to the viewer almost nothing happens.

  • @ExplodingPea - You can't fight fire with fire, or aggression with aggression. That is not rehabilitation its just a fight. If you want to diminish the aggressive behavior you have to change the dogs mental attitude towards *whatever.* I know. I have one. I tried Cesar's "method" it creates a more aggressive dog. I switched to from instead of fighting it, teaching the dog the PROPER Response. Its amazing the progress we've made.

  • @AboutDogTraining3 he doesn't start a fight he triggers a reaction from the dog so that he can correct it. this way the dog will learn what not to do in that situation. he needs to do to show the owners how to correct the dog in different situations. now before blabbing out stuff like idiot atleast think WHY he would do it than you might have come up with this awnser yourself but hey to some people thinking is a hard thing to do nothing personal is just the truth :P

  • @AboutDogTraining3, the only thing the dog learns that that the particular situation Millan put him in causes pain. He is just as likely to respond to this pain aggressively in an attempt to drive it a way, this is why Millan uses so much force. In order to get the dog to shut down he often has to be quite brutal.  BTW Moron, there have been studies showing this link between dominance approach and induced aggression.

    Secondly, the dog isn't being taught anything, he is simply being abused.

  • this dog is your hero because you are a retard and cesar is the best you hate im because is mexican and the fat americans can take that fact 

  • pobrecito mi niño que lan mordio!!! valiente voz fea te pusieron cesar....con lo lindo que hablas español :)

  • Anyone who thinks Cesar is abusing an animal is more than likely a poorly educated individual. And usually it's the owner's fault for not training their pets.

  • train pitbulls hahaha he's not a god just regular as everyone else.....so think about trying to train a human in the ways you see wrong i'm pretty sure nobody likes to be told....it's a me-ism world so if no human likes to be told what to do what makes you think this dog wants this guy forcefully training him, he was pretty much choking the dog....so all in all he deserved it and you can't make anyone change it all depends on the person or in this case the dog.

  • @GREENHELL55555 this might be one of the most ridiculous comments posted from someone that actually thinks the post makes sense (not just bashing or joking)

  • Well I agree he was gonna get bitten sooner or later. Trying to train a dog and being forceful as he is a dog's instincts are to react back especially since every dog is different, kinda like humans we all have different opinions and moods so he's trying to train this dog but, clearly the dog doesn't want to be messed with and the dog bites back. Yes i agree i hate this guy's way of training it's useless it's only going to temper dogs more but, if he thinks he's so good they should make him

  • Cesar millan is a friggin saint. That dog is a tard. Anyone that wishes a dog bite on someone or thinks it's funny...sickening. Get a life.

  • All GOOD dog trainers are bound to get bitten. And shame on you, mr. uplodader for wishing a dog bite on anyone. Perhaps we should concider taking you to the vets to be put down.

  • @Rydiakumori OOOOh snap you tell him man

  • dog whisperer gets bitten.. learn english :D

    Scorchio

  • The people thinks you can treat the dogs like a human, that is silly!!! Stupid people!!!

  • i saw this episode yesterday! so what Cesar got bitten? Things happen, he understands dogs better than anyone in the world, hopefully i'm going to Cesar Millan LIVE this may :D i'd love to see this man in real life, he's amazing! :)

  • Typical for stupid people to dislike anyone that is better than they are... and that is how they stay ignorant.... Cesar has been bit before, but if you don't see how amazing he is, then you are an idiot.

  • It's really not hard to show another life form, that you're the boss, show them discipline & love, by giving them exercise, treats, toys, while making sure they're staying balanced, and not becoming a spoiled brat like an 8 year old kid, if you can't handle a big dog, that obviously needs balance, don't get a fucking 80lb bull dogg, that can pull you around?, that's why we have border collies, labs.

    P.S, I have 2 pitts, 1 rednose and 1 bluenose, as well as a 3 year old German Sheppard.

  • hahahaha! Bite that as*hole doggie!

    Doggie = + 1 : Caesar = 0

  • @gloriadaves id love to see you handle that dog.

  • you shouldn't think a vicious dog is a hero...you must be mental if you think that. i'd like to hear you say that dog is your hero when it bites you

  • cesar milan is a gift to dog's!any-one who hate's on him is a RETARD!

  • @Da323Guy He DOES NOT help dogs, he does not train, rehabilitate or work with dogs. He is using aggression and the most common responce to that is shown on the video above. I want my dog doing as told because he wants to and trusts me, not because of fear. That kind of handling is what a bully would do. Someone working with dogs does not punish a terrified dog. That's what a RETARTED would do.

  • @Da323Guy Hmm you remind me of my 5 year old neice. Of course she uses more suitable words then 'Retard'. Over people using retard as an insult. Retards can't help it if they have problems...

    He is not that awesome, and I say that not because he is an immigrant (I don't even live in the US) and I'm really not jealous of his 'skills'. Though I admit, the way he can stay calm through so many situations is really good, something everyone should learn (even without dogs)

  • @Da323Guy I agree with your main idea. But you should learn how to write if you are going to call anyone a retard. You've got unnecessary apostrophes, unnecessary hyphens, lack of spaces, and annoying capitalization. Please learn how to write so you don't look the fool in the eyes of the world.

  • cesar sucks that's it

  • @MegaToMLove Someone's jealous.

  • @canadianroot Why the hell i would be jealous to a guy who torture dogs? He uses shockcollars and stuff.. -.-

  • @MegaToMLove What's stuff? I don't see him using shock collars. He may use a collar that administers a mild restraint, but when a dog's behaviour is threatening, what would you rather have? I see him loving dogs. i'm sorry, but unless i'm presented with damning evidence, i don't see him mistreating dogs.

  • @canadianroot Putting dogs into serious states of anxiety and stress in nearly every show is mistreating dogs. It's called Flooding, Prolonged Exposure Therapy, Learned-Helplessness. An old form of training that makes a dog face it's fear so much that the dog becomes stressed and goes into shutdown. The aim is to make a dog relax and except the fear as something that isn't going to do any harm. However, this has been proven to increase the chances of being bitten and only be a short-term fix.

  • @mydogkanskidrums your funny

  • @MegaToMLove dood...you need to open your eyes. this guys is amazing and understands dog psycology unlike most "trainers" that avoid the problem. he confronts it. all of you people love to bash his success and claim that he does things wrong and then have no videos of your own to prove different. please show us your videos. until then you just seem uneducated in this field. on another note i'd be more than willing to have a civil debate with you and your opinions. you have to be rational though

  • @MegaToMLove you should learn a bit about dog behavior

  • Why do you hate him ?!

  • Also,you may know that he has a big pack of dogs in his rehabilitation center.If his methods were harmful and making dogs aggressive,he would get killed by his pack of dogs.

    If his old dog Daddy(he died when he was 16 years old unfortunately) is a very balanced dog and if it's a very balanced dog it proves that Cesar knows something... 

  • It's interesting that although people here talk like they know the best methods(which Cesar doesn't know they think),none of them talked about how could this dog be rehabilitated?What would you do if you were Cesar?Which method(s) would you apply exactly?Would you offer the dog a cookie for exchanging it with the pipe?What if he doesn't accept your offer?

    I really want to learn what would be the best method in this situation...

  • @hakan999999999 half of the people that dont agree with his methods are people or "trainers" that are only fit to "train" dogs without behavioral problems...they are the same people that are quick to tell owners that their dog is too aggressive to "train" and needs to be put to sleep..alll ALicia silverstones.....CLUELESS

  • @DreamComeTrueK9

    Really? So you consider animal behaviorists who actually have qualifications as such to be "clueless"? So Dr. Ian Dunbar, Dr. Sophia Yin, Dr. Feddersen Petersen and all the other qualified behaviorists out there, who train problem dogs without the use of torture, are "clueless"! Why? Because they don't have a TV show? How thick can you get?