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  • xvxv

  • its called Fascism.

  • there is people that all they do is get arguments started.Most of these people work or are the establishment you people hate so much.they try to distort the factsYou people think its only about the U.S.you need to look at your own country and what they are doing and supporting.

  • you havent gotten the whole story.only 1 side of the war.I went back all the way before WW2 to present.Look up Avarahem Stern of the Zionist Movement.

  • good on the eu the usa can go fuck themselves they kill innocent civilians and dont even care thank god the uk dosent have influence as well cause they would sell there own people out to the usa

  • Get after your own citizans USA, they have about 13 trillion on foreign accounts. You were robbed between 2007 and 2008. And fuck off out of Europe.

  • you havent figured it out yet have you? Its European banks thats been in our affairs and the worlds affairs.Maybe you dont know who owns the Federal Reserve Bank?Its the same people that owns the Bank of England.The Rothschild Family.Look them up.you tube any search engine has the info.

  • they will get it eventually, legally or illegally (like it would matter to them).

  • Excellent!!  Thank God the EU is finally starting to show signs of being a counter-balance to the US. So far, it's been pretty wussy, but I hope this signals the sprouting of a collective EU spine.

  • fighting terrorism? my ass

  • US wants everything but doesn't want to give anything.

  • thats funny throughout this countries history we have done nothing but give.who do you think has been carrying most of the 3rd world when we didnt have too? all you people are too busy hating on us you need to look at yourselves before you start critisizing us.What else would you like us to give our left nut?

  • You give to take. You want a trading partner...some advertising space, that's all. You want puppet governments and influence.

  • What is with America? Don't they think that the EU is capable of seeing an obvious security issue? And since when has a "terrorist" been found by bank data? Too many questions to answer, simply put, America's government sucks and everybody knows it.

  • actually its under the guise of funding Terrorism.the govt is just pissed off that a lot of our richest people hid their money in off shore accounts.Thats their real reason for the statements.our govt may suck but its better than most at the moment.not for long though.they have been straddling the line between Fascism and communism since 1913 and actually before that

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  • How dare they even request bank info of citizens in other countries!

    That is against their very own constitution - of coarse they arent abiding by that anymore. What the heck are those paranoid nutjobs thinking??

    They must really be desperate to ask for bank info as they have an economic collapse - it doesnt take a genius to figure out why.

  • This is why the U.S. should cease to do business with the Federal Reserve Bank.or Nationalize it.

    We do have other things to worry about like the attack on our 1st and 2nd amendment rights.

  • @jasonfulton jefferson tried to stop the national bank back when he was president

    hes turning in his grave now

  • So did Kennedy.and 1 other president.

  • The 1st Amendment, Freedom of Speech, is under attack by modern day Bolsheviks -- the very same ideological lineage with which America allied during WW2.

    You can search YouTube for:

    "Hate Laws Making Criminals of Christians 1"

    Very clearly, Adolf and Germany supported the ethnic Christian side of the conflict. America did not, and now we see the result.

  • isnt it funny that Rothschild who is sitting in england (in the "City") is doing his dirty business through the US?

  • The America that came into the 2nd WW late, it started in 1939, and America entered it after the independent country they occupy, namely The Kingdom of Hawaiʻi, was put in danger and bombed by the Japanese. That America, for all itʻs faults and blessings, is gone now it is a Kleptocracy, Kakistocracy, and fastly becoming run by Corporate Neo-feudalism. So, the notion that Europe wouldnʻt exist,..blah blah blah and should roll over to the US now is rubbish! Aloha from Occupied Hawaiʻi...

  • Thats the only reason we entered the second WW.if you dont like being a part of the U.S.secede like many of other states are thinking about doing.

  • Your comments seem to land on both sides of the fence. The US entered WW2 on behalf of the central bankers and Marxists. Now America is fully Bolshevized and controlled by the bankers. It should be no surprise.

    Adolf the Great and Germany fought against both, the bankers and Marxists. It really couldn't be any clearer, that Germany fought against what you now seem to despise.

  • we have been straddling the fence since 1913.

  • LibertaerUeberAlles, Hitler was a pussy who when in a situation where he would have had to face up to the evil he did killed himself....utter cowardice. The Nazi's were THE most evil thing that has ever happened.

  • I read a lot of history.Germany created their own monetary system away from the world banking system.He actually supported a all jewish state.A lot of the Jews supported Hitler.I do believe that we supported the wrong side in both wars.

  • The only reason you guys are in 3rd world countries is cuz u guys r there for oil. your country has to stick its butt in middle east every time something happens they go to war.

  • You really need to get some sort of reality check...Jews "liked" Hitler, despite being harassed and eventually killed by him? Whatever history you are reading, it's distorted.

  • freedom and privacy lovers fasten your seatbelts, WE ARE GOING INTO 100 YEARS TURBULENCE!!!

  • these ppl are stupid if it wasnt for america there would be no europe either it would be all germany or soivet

  • @StreeterTV I think its time for you americans to acutally open up and read a history book. But thats a typical knee jerk propaganda brainwashed opinion the rest of the world has come to expect from the leading terrorist oragnization on the planet.

  • Typical and misinformed.

  • There wasn't a union before the wars, or the unity we have now. Did you not hear about lisbon?

    Also, the US came into world war 1 way too late to make much of an effective difference. In world war two it took pearl harbour to actually get you to engage germany and japan. It says nothing good about your bravery as a nation.

  • @jasonfulton germany is in europe

  • No shit.

  • @jasonfulton you said you in europe getting your asses kicked by germany im just pointing out how stupid you are

  • you better read the statement again so you can correct yourself an stop showing your IQ by calling people names.Its people like you that does not have the Intelligence to carry a conversation without trying to twist words around to your advantage or by calling people names because you know 1 thing.YOU are WRONG.

  • @jasonfulton Actually it takes quite a bit of intelligence to manipulate a conversation towards your own benefit.

  • something that guy obviously doesnt have.

  • LOL at the idiot, you need to read real history books

  • We do not just US or Russian go drink some more Vodka.

  • Why does the United States need blanket access to all the financial records of the sovereign citizens of Europe?

    Why can't they just request them on a case by case basis as they always have?

  • Thats the thing We dont.Our govt is turning into something we cant describe like a cross between Communism and Fascism.This country has turned into a police state and is getting worse every time new legislation is introduced.

  • @jasonfulton

    It´s called Corporatism. Look it up at wiki.

  • I dont use wiki. I use websters

  • Capitalism leads to Corporatism.

  • actually Fascism mixed with Communism dont ask me how that happened.

  • It's the other way round.

  • GIVE US YOUR INFORMATION!!!!

  • My country's foreign policy sucks.This country used be great ,and not because we were spying on other people in other continents and countries-oh yeah and bombing them-my granfathers would be ashamed to call themselfs americans........sigh.pull out the troops and retract the spending on missle shields and shit.

  • WHAT?!

  • who do the usa think they are go fuck yourselfs.

  • What? These Europeans are starting to think they don't want to be the USA's bitch anymore? The USA is going to bitch slap them like a pimp.

  • lol watch the movie Solvent Green with Charleton Heston

  • As if the jooz controlling NYC banks and the Federal reserve havent stolen enough.

  • The eye never say "enouph". And the end for it will be dirt.

  • Heheehh yeah right...they might have allowed US to do this behind the curtains

    Hahaha who the fuck believes in the EU

  • very bad idea since US is known to lable things "terrorist" whenever they feel like it and then they force YOU to prove to them that you aren't one...

  • Watch my book review video:

    "How to survive the end of the world as we know it"

  • First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

  • Then they came for the muslim and i did not speak out- because i was not a muslim. dont forget that one...

  • Well they've already found ways to either kill the poor or make them hang themselves so I would imagine, yes, the muslims are next since Israel is behind it all.

  • I read the top few comments and just had to look an the whole comment list. What I wanted to know is why there is so much hate here. We will all fall into the pit of police state soon enough, so we all need to try to protect ourselves, Europe and US and all others.

  • Oh America, you are a good idea gone bad. You have become the ROME of the 21st century.....and Rome fell. I am in UK and 56 years old, as a child I had to grow up with the fear of some idiot pushing a button and destroying the world. Even then in my childish mind I was always more afraid of America than Russia, that hasn't changed. You America are trigger happy and hungry for power, you are also paranoid and need help. I hope my country distances itself from your plan to bomb for democracy.

  • beltanebabe55 I agree with every word in your comment, but it is a big problem that your country doesn't do it more often then it does:)

  • asoly1, Tell me about it, we have a one way extradition treaty with USA that is so wrong. It is time the UK Gov' told USA to get lost. USA seems to think it rules the world.

  • I dont believe in Extradition.Anyone that would run to here isnt that bright considering theU.S. does extradite.

  • jasonfulton,Have you not heard about Gary Mckinnon (not sure of the spelling) he has been fighting extradition to the USA for years all because he hacked into nasa and defence computer systems looking for evidence of UFO's. He is British born and bred. He did no damage in fact he did them a favour as the stupid idiots didn't even have the computers password protected, he is facing 60 years in a US jail and he has Aspergers Syndrome and won't cope with it at all. British Gov needs to stop this.

  • No i havent. you have to understand a lot of things are not reported on because the media is controlled by the Govt.even if they wont admit it.

    Obama basicly admitted to that when he said they were going to pass legislation to control the net.

  • Your house of reps just passed a cybersecurity bill 422 to 5! I didn't know obama had that much support for his take over of the internet!

  • @BabyJustWin It's insane they do as they please, but it's not like Americans would do anything about it. It has nothing to do with the TV, beer or parties so it doesn't concern them. They basically welcoming slavery with open arms.

  • It isnt just paranoia. Look at who controls the banks its not us.its the Rothschild family and they have since the lte 1700s

  • jasonfulton, yes it is paranoia all you have to do is listen to the likes of Beck and Savage and the Birthers etc etc....and even without them America has always been Paranoid about socialism, hell they even call Liberals mentally ill. The right wing is very Paranoid thats how they let Bush (a raving alcoholic) take them into 2 illegal and immoral wars.

  • The thing about Beck is this.he told everyone where this country was headed a couple of years ago.He was right.See the thing about conspiracy theories is that its not a conspiracy theory if its true!lmao went from a Alcoholic to a x drug addict an probably not any x to it.think that good do you?

  • Wake up! Beck supports bilderbergers named perry! He dosen't give anyone keen insight, americas collapse has been planned for years! beck tells things that boss'es control. search bilderberger, cfr, trilateral commission. Here is a prediction so you can quote me, the us will lose its triple a rating, and when it does you can say bye bye to your country! The US will look like haiti within 3 yrs! You are already a slave and you don't even know it!

  • Its looking worse every day because of a Socialist named Obama.

  • Obama is not a Socialist. He gets a whole new economic/government category. It is based off of a totallitarian society between businesses/corporations and the government. Either way he's a bad person/president.

  • Socialism,communism,Totallitar­ianism and Fascism.Theres not much difference.Right now we are straddling the line between communism and Fascism.read the 10 planks of communism (communist manifesto)then the 14points of Fascism.we have completed both an no one is Reporting it.

  • fascism is extreme capitalism is which the government is controlled by corporations like what we have in the united states

    socialism is what many european countries have in the form of free healthcare and college

    fascism has nothing to do with socialism

    stop trying to confuse people with your disinformation

  • like i said Fascism.there i not any difference to me.Socialism is a precursor to communism.Both forms run every thing a Utopian society.

    Go fly your sign somewhere else.

  • socialism doesnt lead to communism

    many european countries have been very socialist for many decades and have not turned into communism

    you are just spewing disinformation to make people afraid of the slightest bit of socialism, making it easier to maintain the preservation of capitalism and extreme capitalism(fascism) that we have been suffering under

  • read the10 planks of communism

    then the 14 points of Fascism.

    then fly your sign.

  • your planks are disinformation

  • apparently you have never read the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels.they are the fathers of socialism. and the countries you are taliking about are failing history has proven that socialism/communism does not work.their economies cannot sustain the bill for their healthcare alone much less the welfare programs. you my friend are wrong.

  • marx inspired communism not socialism.

    socialism does work.

    all the european countries who have free healthcare and college are doing just fine.

    its the capitalist countries which are failing.

    like our country.

  • if you havent been watching the Euro is faltering.the countries that have free college,hlthcare its all ran by their govt.they are going broke.Britain has been going broke for a while.Spain,Portugal,Greece now the rest of the EU.Socialism and Communism is based off the Communist Manifesto.feel free to read it.

  • if the euro is faltering, it is collateral damage from our imploding capitalist american economy.

    economies are connected. so obviously the socialist economies will be pulled down by our huge corrupt capitalist economy as it implodes.

    communism is based on the communist manifesto. not socialism.

    if someone died of cancer you would ignore the fact that the cancer caused his death and just believe that the natural human body is disfunctional.

  • so your trying to blame the faultering Euro and our economy on capitalism? haha The banks that caused this are from basicly socialist nations and backed by socialist.Socialism is the precursor to communism.Every history book written confirms this fact.lol Socialism is cancer.

  • @jasonfulton

    i guess you havent heard that we have a GLOBAL economy, so that when one regional capitalist economy implodes in can affect other economies connected to it.

    the cause of this was capitalism not socialism.

    socialism is not the precurser to communism.

    countries in europe have been socialist for decades and they never became communist.

    and communism is a lot better than the economic system we have currently in america.

    history books written by capitalist propagandists.

  • a global economy created by socialist bankers in europe.since you like socialism so much move to europe where that system is accepted.And if that system is so great why do they keep wanting to come over here?

  • international banks arent socialist they are ultra capitalist(fascist)

  • Fascist banks in socialist nations huh?

  • socialist nations keep fascist banks out.

  • they do do they?then why are they there?England,France the EU

  • the governments of england, france and the eu arent controlled by the international bankers like our is .

    and that is the result of socialism.

    every aspect of our government and society is controlled by the international banks as a result of capitalism.

    get a clue

  • >the governments of england, france and the eu arent controlled by the international bankers like our is .

    You must be joking.

  • england is. but france and eu not nearly to the extent that america and england are.

  • The FED is in Europe, wow that´s really new to me.

  • lol its the name that misleads people.but yeah its owned by banks centralized in Britain.Rothschild has interest in it and most banks of the world.signboyy needs to do a little research.

  • In fact Rothschildt, Rockefeller and all their "friends" are neither european nor american, they are transnational & global, guess why globalization is taking place, it is because of this small group of people who gain biggest part of profits from it. They are not socialists. They are hyper capitalists who own most other capitalist corporations and banks and their agenda is to emerge world of big business (owned by them) with the state(s) and government(s) to one ruling force, serving them.

  • obama like hitler got elected as a left winger but then once elected became a right wing banking/corporate puppet

    when the bankers and corporations cant get their right wing puppets elected they have the puppets pose as left wingers, then once elected further the right wing agenda under the guise of bipartisanship

    and then when people wise up to the scam, they institute total authoritarianism so that they are no longer beholden to the will of the people

  • ha your right on that.

  • jasonfulton, Beck is a mentally unstable asshole who does nothing constructive for his country and gets paid TOO MUCH for shooting his mouth off about any crap that right wing loonies will listen to. Please don't expect another reply from me, I have no wish to communicate with people who see Beck as anything other than a alcohol and drug brain damaged idiot

  • I have noticed when you left wing liberals cant think of anything with any merit to say you either play the Race card or you start name calling and trying to destroy some ones character with no proof.Beck yeah he was a so called alcoholic.then so was just about every president in US history.what threatons the liberals is this.More people are waking up to the fact that Beck and others have been right all this time.actually I dont give a shit if you reply or not.

  • jasonfulton, as I am in the UK and our political system is not as trashed as USA you can't call me a left wing liberal as every party we have over here is way more left wing than yours....except the BNP who are racists. We get accurate news in the UK and it is obvious even to UK conservatives that the right wing tea baggers and Birthers are destroying your country. Obama IS your President, it took Bush years to mess everything up, it may take some time for Obama to try and sort it. Get over it.

  • That's right. The US media is totally distorted...Fox news is basically propaganda - it's disgusting. The fact is, politics in the UK is much more open minded, and collectively as a people the EU is obligated to be much more open minded too...we're all basically landlocked with the rest of the world. The US is a very self-conscious country, comparable to a bull.

  • yes i do have to agree with that.they wont come out with the truth or facts.Fox is doing the same now.Thats why ive been going to RT or the BBC on the net.If they pass the cybersecurity bill we wont be able to do that for a while.The media is controlled by the govt as it is.now they want the net.Every govt will do the same after ours do it.

  • Wake up! beck is a tool for the elite! Here is what obama is doing to your country that even beck won't talk about!

    /watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

  • Yey the EU is working, I always knew it would :)

    In the same week the Germans told them the Nuc's must go :))

    Israel must be really pissed :))

  • Wait let me get this right. The mighty American Bully just got a public bitch slapping from the EU. Now we all know, that the US don't take to the words "NO! So FUCK OFF!" very well do they? The lyrics "There maybe trouble ahead" just sprung to my mind though.

    BUT WE CAN take control using the Common Law act LAWFUL REBELLION (Article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215) and not be regulated/dictated to by corrupt Statutes (Legal) enforced by fear.

    We still have a choice.

  • like i have been saying we need to pull all our troops back home give you people what ya want.

    Then sit back and watch and laugh.

    The EU was doomed from the start.You guys cant get along more than 50 years without slugging it out.

  • Funny how their wasn't an EU before we were "slugging it out". Times change. Belive what you want but we've exhausted our reasons to fight anymore.

  • talkin about before the EU.look at the Irish and Greeks and couple of others.How long do you think Britain will let some one else tell them what to do?My guess? Not Long

  • Obama has no intention of bringing US troops home, so that part of your comment is rhetorical. Sit back and watch and laugh. hmm? sounds like RMS Lusitania, Pearl Harbour, 911 and every other false flag event the US has suffered, no inflicted. American ideology is unwarranted in Europe, so kindly "fuck off" and try looking after the thousands of US homeless families living in tents and cars, falling house prices and a doomed to failed WORLD economy.

    Yeah you sit back and watch and laugh.

  • making a small story short.. data gets collected and sent to US from EU.. US sorts what it wants and gives it to Israel. IN the name of terrorism to the biggest terrorist nation in the history of earth so far.. Israel. nothing against the Jewish people but def the isreali government.

  • They will come back and try it again, that's always what they do, remember Lisbon treaty?

  • There are forces in the US critical of corporatism, but maybe they should be more so. I mean, what now are called derisively "liberals" is still a variation on a liberalist theme.

    Maybe liberalism as a whole should be questioned. But that's difficult, because the most poignant critique of liberalism in the US has been the US South, the very region liberals have branded neo-conservative. It's a cultural cul-de-sac with no easy way out the US is in today.

  • Govt and Corporate should be like the church and state.Seperated

  • The United States got OWNED!

  • Americans stay the fuck out of Europe!

  • @cerritoboy No thanks, I'll go where I please. :D

  • yea come to europe and get spat on in the street, you fat american cunts!

  • I've gone to Europe on plenty of occassions, even made a country in Europe my home for several months.

    Never got spat on.

    Unfortunetly, crazies like you who hate Americans so blindly are a minority. It's sad that you guys flock to the internet though, you form a lot of unnecessary negative opinions about Europe for people wanting to travel there.

  • hate americans are minority?? LOL man you need to open your eyes, 80% of the world know that you are devils.

  • @dikkydoo1 Nope. Only extremist crazies like you.

    80% of the world is misinformed, follows misconceptions too easily and stereotypes way too often. :)

  • @jreed136 - wow an american calling somone else an extremist....i suppose the afgans deserve all they get as well, yea?

  • @dikkydoo1 I never once said that. It's completely and totally ignorant to perceive every American as "the devil" or even to believe they agree with the things our government has done.

    The American people are as much victims in our OWN country as anyone else, hell, now we can be victims outside of our country as our government has deemed it fit to assassinate our own people abroad.

    Your views are that of a child, and I suggest you educate yourself if you want to be taken at all seriously.

  • @dikkydoo1 Do you call this intelligent debate ?

  • @Eagle21trueGabriel Hehe, I'm not going to humor his insanity. You shouldn't too. :P

  • @jreed136 - i am insane? because you dont like what i say? well i can inform you a lot of the world dont very much like american carpet bombing either, does that make america insane?

  • @dikkydoo1 Yes, you have insanity inside you. Your blind hatred is insanity. You're doing this on purpose, you can be perfectly reasonable yet you're CHOOSING to be an ignorant prick.

    Ignorance by choice = Stupidity/Insanity.

  • @eagle21truegabriel - no its trash talk, its the lowest form of verbal communication, but i suppose its a debate of sorts. anyway debate is over-rated and not relavent in our current society. regards.

  • @dikkydoo1 If it's trash talk, then you're very poor at it - And unoriginal.

    Debate is always relevant.

  • @jreed136 - thankyou for the compliment, i agree trash talk is not my strong point but on YT i am getting better at it. its not my opinion that debate is not relevant, take a look at the leaders you vote in its clearly not relevant. how can you argue that it is, relevant between who? academics??

  • @dikkydoo1 We don't vote in our true leaders. You should know that.

    American President = Puppet.

    It's relevant in that it promotes civil arguments. We should always question everything and hearing multiple sides on any given subject, while avoiding insults and ignorance is always a good thing.

  • @jreed136 - ok we fundamentally disagree here, our elected representaives may be puppets but we did elect them, so its ultimately our fault. as henry ford said 'the people get the government they deserve', and thats a fact.

  • @dikkydoo1 Agree to disagree.

  • If you have a choice between Coke & Pepsi... what happens if you want to drink root beer, but it isn't on the ballot? Do I have to drink Coke every day from now on in?

  • @ webovisionca - thats valid point but you are describing democracy as it is today, and its majority rule, the majority dictate how you are ruled, if the majority dont like it or dont want it then it wouldnt be so, if you are agguing against democracy - you need to move countries, as america is THE GREAT democracy, and its true, you are!

  • America was founded as a Republic though, which is alot better than the majority dictate. Root beers all around!

  • I double dare you to spit on an American Black woman...DARE YOU!

    Watch your snivling ass get humiliated and bloodied by a girl...

    Then her man would flip your limp ass over and put your mouth on a curb and stomp on the back of your head "curbchecking" you and your attitude. If you have the nuts to spit...bring a shovel so whoever can scrape your ass off the sidewalk.

  • since you introduced the subject of race and colour, black people get spat on all the time in my town, and they dont even have to be american! if they complain they get knocked out, i have never seen any fat black bitches complain too loudly, and the black guys all keep their heads down, most of them have jobs running errands for white people so they know when to keep their mouths shut.

  • And then you woke up

  • Maybe your lapdogs...

    but that is why I said American Black women....

    what is funny is that you think you would be safe by spitting on someone...go fo it tough guy...get shanked.

  • @azis1100 It's not cool to spit on people, no, but saying that someone is absolutely going to get beat down by someone of a given race just cause they're "LOLBlack" is silly.

    So I call your bluff.

  • Well it is not a bluff, you spit on me or my wife and I will thrust my thumbs into your eye sockets untill your blind.

    You think you can get away with spitting on an American...dude I'd knock out some glass and stab you in the throat and walk away scott free...head back to the states laughing.

    ignorant pos. spit on someone, anyone...chances are your going to get your ass beat....you can be a bitch about this all you want...but if you got the rocks, try it in your home town... POSWGOwned~

  • @azis1100 If you blinded anyone for just spitting on you, instead of turning the other cheek... Then you're just a violent moron.

    You talk tough on the internet, but chances are you'd just walk away. I'd never spit on anyone, but neither would I KILL or permanently injure them for doing so. That's ridiculous.

  • Turn the other cheek is some dogma crap that is a 80,000yr regurgitated shivaism...choke on that old fable...

    Ridiculous is thinking that you can get away with such acts.

    I've been everywhere...6 of 7. Everyone has been like family in every country I've traveled to. Very chill laid back good people.

    But don't think for a second you can spit on myself or my family and walk away with with your eyesight or no broken bones.

    Don't be shocked...just know the price.

  • What have you done america? you welcomed the african man into your home, sheltered him, protected him, fought for his rights, fed him and now he thinks he owns you...he hates you for what you have done...same in UK.....

  • @dikkydoo1 Eh. Everyone thinks you owe them something. It's not a big deal.

  • @azis1100 Unless she's some ginormous black woman, I wouldn't be afraid. ;)

  • 95% chance then =p

  • It is not about Americans or Europeans.

    It is the governments.

  • @ZKY2 Thank you. You are 100% correct.

  • @jreed136 - no he isnt - passing responsibility off yourself and onto elected leaders IS THE problem, when will people accept responsibility for who they elect to represent them?

  • @dikkydoo1 He -IS- correct.

  • I don't think you understand American politics and it's control on the media and who gets to sit at debates & who doesn't.

    or who's message gets advertised and who's doesnt

    the two main parties, democrats and republicans and their financial backers (lobbyists) have a concerted effort at maintaining the status quo which is why millions of dollars go into particular candidates and wash out any other opposing candidate with different views and agenda

  • also districting or re-districting plays an important role as to what sort of voters (rich, poor, educated, uneducated, etc)vote for certain candidates

  • yes i accept that, but if its possible for a few to 'uncover' whats really going on then its possible for many more, and its called eduation, a econoimc genius who posts on yt may get 3000 views while a singing hamster gets a million, some kid moonwalking gets 20million, people dont want to bother educating themselves, and these same people rush out to vote because they are black just like their local candidate, (or hispanic or white) so i believe the blame rests firmly with the majority.

  • you should read guy debord's 'the society of the spectacle'

  • I have also made those observations.

    i think these types of people are self-serving, oblivious and superficial to their core - willingly ignorant. Ever since the end of WWI a large part of society has been molded & bred to become zombies of materialism and commercialism.

    Sigmund Freuds nephew, Edward Bernays helped pioneer the notion of pyschology in mainstream to promote materialism which slowly created obdient zombies looking for their next fix of ego to go with their demise.

  • Yes - and i would like to stress the point that its the majority = politicians who reflect that view = the creation of the type of society that we live in, so the problem is imo the type of democracy that we live under, but under the system it will require majority opinion to change, its a perpetual merry-go-round, it will lead to WW3 and global breakdown before anything positive changes.

  • I agree with most of what you said i just wish i knew where your conversation originated.lol.

  • @zky2 - no its the europeans and americans because they voted in their governments. and i am a european.

  • The people are constantly lied to and misled by those in power.

    So no, it isn't their fault.

  • @ zky2 - its very difficult to mislead educated and informed people - and its each persons responsibility to educate themselves, so imo it is 'their' fault.

  • @dikkydoo1 Actually, it's not difficult at all to get people to believe what you want. It's all psychology man, informed minds may me a little stronger... But mob mentality rules.

    You can make the public believe a surprising amount of things.

  • Most people are struggling to survive and don't have the time or ability to discern truth from lies. The best and brightest are recruited into this system, helping to brainwash the masses who are easy targets for disinformation. Most don't really have much of a chance to free themselves from this sytem of thought control. Elites have done everything in their power to remove the public completely from the process of real decision making.

  • roell29, If the masses turned off their brainwashing TV's and stopped buying newspapers that talk shite they just might get somewhere.

  • stop trolling fool.