On December 20, 1989, the United States broke both international law and its own government policies by invading Panama in order to bring its President Manuel Noriega to justice for drug trafficking
John Perkins alleges in his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, that Torrijos was assassinated by American interests, who had a bomb planted aboard his aircraft (by CIA organized operatives).[5] The alleged motive is that some American business leaders and politicians strongly opposed the negotiations between Torrijos and a group of Japanese businessmen led by Shigeo Nagano, who were promoting the idea of a new, larger, sea-level canal for Panama
@ed11561 The key words here are ALLEGES and ALLEGED! I've seen lots of things alleged (UFOS, Bigfoot, crop circles, etc, etc., etc., etc.,), but you should know that it's not the same as actual EVIDENCE. I really think we're on two different levels here and that you don't any proof to back up your claims. Nice try though.
@PanVet100 Ask Pat Tillman WHY he was against the war & why he KNEW the US was totally wrong in Iraq&Afghanistan.It's written down&possibly a reason why he died.He was very vocal about it.I'm not against soldiers but braindead gung-ho fuckers like the puppy killers&grenade throwers are pure scum.
To bring up bigfoot&ufo's is sheer stupidity. but whatever.Go google US MILITARY INVASIONS & see who the real fucking terrorists are.I have met the enemy & he is US.
That was a damn shame ANYONE had to die-including the 5000 Panamanians who were attacked for no reason other than G.W.Bush being denied training Contras in Panama. THAT is why Panama was invaded.Because Noreiga would not allow FOREIGN TROOPS to train in his country like Bush wanted.So the Bush LIAR painted Noreiga as a big bad drug dealer(when Bush was the Drug smuggler himself)ask CelerinoCastillo-DEA
americandrugwar . com/new/castillo.htm
How many did BUSH kill in Iraq?Over 5000 so far.US
@ed11561 Is it a shame that anyone has to die in any war or ONLY when they are started by Bush?? You're whole theory that Panama was invaded because Noriega wouldn't let us train is the silliest one I've heard yet. You apparently don't know this, but thousands of US troops were stationed there long before the invasion. They had daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and special training all over Panama. I've seen many unrealistic death figures of 10,000, 8,000, 5,000, 4,000, but where's the EVIDENCE???
@PanVet100 where's the evidence? The panamanian people have all the records of the people who were killed-buried&dug up again & categorized.They have most of the records.It';s not going to be on fucking youtube genius
":You're whole theory that Panama was invaded because Noriega wouldn't let us train is the silliest one I've heard yet"Well that only shows what an uneducated fuck you truly are.That was obvious to all at the time.US Troops are not CONTRAS genius.And troops are everywhere-CUBAeven
@ed11561 Ugh! Then why has their number fluctuated from 3000-10000 by various groups, then back to 4000 for 20 years? I was THERE with 1000s of good people (not murderers) who never said anything about a death toll over a 1000 at the time. Where were you? Apparently, you can't read well. I never said you had to post your evidence, but you could reveal where it's located. With your ignorant profanity, comprehension and grammar problems, it's not wise to criticize the education of others. Adios.
@PanVet100 never said you had to post your evidence-WHO CARES what u say genius.I'll post where & WHAT is said whenever i feel like it.
A death toll over a THOUSAND? And That's alright dummy? Who the fuck are you GOD?
NOONE should ever INVADED PANAMA for any BULLSHIT REASON & kill ANYONE.NOT 1. I don't have grammar or comprehension problems moron.You're the one in DENIAL not me.And i suppose you were all over every square inch of land there & KNEW ALL.Doubt it.Probably just a killing grunt.
@PanVet100 I was THERE with 1000s of good people-WHO FIREBOMBED CIVILIAN NEIGHBORHOODS & KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THEIR BEDS.& whoever came to the windows like the article said.horrendous. Worse even then MAI-LAI & that was in ANOTHER MANUFACTURED WAR. No US Navy was ever attacked by the N.Viet Commies but it sure sounded great.How many americans did those scumbags in the White House get killed?Over 60,000-and YES we left POW's there with McCain&Kerry's KNOWLEDGE.PURE FUCKING SCUMBAGS inoffice
@PanVet100 everybody in panama hated noriega... he always knew about the invasion. USA didnt see panama as a country to help grow and develop. you only wanted it for the canal and the money. u see it with eyes of conquer. u thought panama was a property of the united states. panamanians asked USA for help on their bad situations, but always ended worse, USA is a fail.
I agree, which is why Panama should have ousted Noriega. Most Americans didn't give a damn about the canal once Carter signed it away. I didn't even know where is was in 89 and glad we got rid of it.
@PanVet100 "One of the earliest traceable sources of the assertion of large-scale casualties was former U.S. Atty. Gen. Ramsey Clark. He told a news conference last January in Panama City that he had evidence of 2,000 to 4,000 deaths, mostly civilian.
Asked at the time to substantiate his claim, Clark refused, telling one reporter: "You are an investigative journalist. You find out the sources."
I'll take his word over anything U think any day of the week.HAHAHAHA
The allegation was given new life most recently by a segment on CBS Television's "60 Minutes," which quoted from an allegedly secret U.S. military document that put "casualties" at at least 1,000.
Correspondent Mike Wallace also interviewed a Panamanian woman who said she had found her dead father in an unmarked mass grave and contended that hundreds more were also buried in the cemetery.
@PanVet100 "My criticism is not that the Americans have hidden the true death count, or that there are mass graves," he added. "My concern is that of those killed, far too many were civilians, mostly women and children."These, he said, were the victims of their own "curiosity" and nervous, poorly trained American troops."Women and children naturally went to the window and looked out when they heard the fighting," Troncoso said, "and the nervous soldiers shot them." BigBadVets-hahaha
I've heard that ESTIMATE before, but where's a name list and proof that everyone was killed by Americans and not Panamanian troops? I actually saw a girl that was executed by one of Noriega's DigBats and it's haunted me for years. The numerous Cen. Am. numbers of the dead civilians (Codehuca-2500, Conahupa-3500, CDHRCA-4000, etc) are not the last word on the issue. Other sources (European Press-1000-2000, UN-2500, etc) had less biased estimates and they weren't all civilians, but soldiers too.
ALL OF U AMERICANS A FUCKING SHAME, ALLWAYS INVADING COUNTRIES FOR MONEY. IM SURE THAT NON OF U KNOWS THE FULL STORY ABOUT AMERICANS ON THE COUNTRY!.. KENEDY WAS KILLED AFTER THE 3RD TRY!!! FIDEL CASTRO HAS BEEN TRIED TO KILL MORE THAN 600 TIMES. THE CUBANS ALREADY HAVE THE CURE OF LUNGS CANCER BUT U ONLY SPEND UR MONEY ON WAR. 30 AMERICANS WERE KILLED ON PANAMA AND MORE THAN 3000 PANAMANIANS WERE KILLED. WHEN U ACTUALLY SAID U CAME FOR NORIEGA... THATS WHY THE USA IS GOING DOWN... ALL 4 MONEY
Damn time passes so fast. I was stationed at ft.ord ca from 1988-1991 and part of the 7th division light fighter unit bravo 2/8 fa. We went to panama for operation just cause and it was the hottest,humid, weather ever. It was an experience, but we did'nt see any action. All my boys came back alive. James mills,pete cordova,bernard robinson,benny mendez,shawn mitchell,wayne williams and others. man i miss those days.
@str8outtatexas1 Don't know the exact unit he's originally from Alabama. I wound up in the Marine Corps working in the Aviation field lol. Kinda departed from the family line :)
all you know that the USA killed many innocent people?... this is nothing to be proud of... war wont ever be the solution, and if you have problem with some one, go and deal with it , and let the innocent live... why innocent people have to pay for an asshole? WHY!?...
@punkrockpax Like how it worked in Bosnia? This happened before on Europe's backyard yet the killing continue to go on for three years because many people believed to stay pacifists would work out but in reality it doesn't. You say war won't be the solution? Try asking that to the people of Bosnia.
The failture of Bosnia shows that brute military force needs to be used in case diplomacy fails.
@Hperman09 when the people of the same country fights for their rights, when the gouvernment dont give solution, there will be a civil war, in that case its ok, but man USA is not the world police.. they can not invade countries in their will... and kill innocents? you think thats a solution?... i dont, if you have problems with a specific guy go and kill him, and dont kill innocents... in a war no one wins... everyone loses something... family friends, love... things... life...
@punkrockpax I personally don't agree a lot of things the U.S. did. The UN asked us to step up to deal with conflicts. That's how superpowere go and do. If you look at Bosnia, you see how Europe failed terribly in that leadership role and asked the U.S. to step up and do something. Same thing with the first Gulf War, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait asked us for help. If you say nobody asked the U.S. to step up to conflicts, then you deluded.
No country had the politcal and military will like the USA.
@Hperman09 in case of back up request is ok, but, for example, Irak, Panama, Libia...
those contries didnt ask for the US... they just Arrived... start to kill people, ok, "they were killing Rebels" but in the first case they are invading their land, they are just fighting for it, ok, sadamm maybe was an asshole and gaddafi too but why wait so long and why they didnt "help" those countries before? those presidents were in power a very long time... i think they do that for something else...
@Hperman09 all those kind of Organizations are controlled by the US... and i've heard that when a country doesnt want to do what the USA wants it to do, they start a war using a excuse like they will free a country from its dictator or terrorism or something like that or presidenst or public figures just die in a wierd accident...
I was in C. Co. and knew both of these guys. Fuck Noriega, and his POS worshippers. They were soldiers, Airborne soldiers and they will not be forgotten by those of us who served with them.
Paramusica3 were you there by the time of the invasion? I guess you did not. Most of casualties were civilian peopel who was trying to run away for their lives. Bush was our osama bin laden that 1989. December 20th was our 11s
I was in el chorio when it happen and im 100% in agreement with workingclassass. And im both from Panama and americA...And served in Iraq like a jackass...
Countries in need of an Operation Just Cause - PRC Russia North Korea Venezuela Cuba Iran And thats just a start most of their peolple don't hate us,Its just the people who are running the show and force feeding them crap on TV only dictators and fruit loops need "State run TV".
@ridder6689 Looks as though you spend too much time on Modern warfare pish ,get yourself a life and dont let the rich elites continue to brainwash you.Use that thing between your ears,go check Noam Chomsky or John Pilger on utube and dont let the US media corporations continue to fool you
@workingclasslass I am proud of what we had to do in Grenada and Panama so i don't give a damn on what the anti-war goons have to say, the same goes for Iraq and the Stan and im in my 20s so i don't play Modern Goddamn Warfare every freakin day like i did 6 or 7 years ago so i am no fool, that means i got a life and job alright so stop comparing every last gamer in this world as a mindless idiot because many of them are smart tallented and fully aware of this worlds problems and are humans too.
U.S. soldiers will always have my admiration and respect until the day i take my dying breath. not only are they some tough MFers.. they VOLUNTEER to do this stuff.
Remember how lightly you speak about the real deal. Lack of knowing will not grant you peace from your ignorance sir/mam. Trust that lives, dreams, love was lost on all sides near balboa in balboa on ft.clayton and for those who can not directly relate probably should not speak on it. I have talked and told my fair share I am speaking with experience. This goes for there and Iraq or any battle ground. When I was in Panama a civilian threw a grenade in a basement bar shits real.
To all you communist/socialist American haters, the people of Panama said it best at 4:34. Those guys are the guys that this vid commemorates; our fallen comrades. Those guys are still great!
@workingclasslass Welcome to my world! What murdered civilians? Where do you get your information? suggest you put on a uniform and serve your country! What a joke! GMC(SW) The only easy day was yesterday! KMA
Remember how lightly you speak about the real deal. Lack of knowing will not grant you peace from your ignorance sir/mam. Trust that lives, dreams, love was lost on all sides near balboa in balboa on ft.clayton and for those who can not directly relate probably should not speak on it. I have talked and told my fair share I am speaking with experience. This goes for there and Iraq or any battle ground. When I was in Panama a civilian threw a grenade in a basement
Very Patriotic pulling off an illegal invasion to get control back of a region which was in treaty over from Carter. Noriega and Bush go back when he was head of CIA and ordered coverup of the drug activity. Soldiers killing indiscrimately without even knowing the reason they are there, I guess they learned from grade school not to question authority. Drug traffic increased after this invasion also.
Pray for Peace, train for war and if you weren't there--Shut the f**k up! None of you opinionated people get it, do you? War is a fact of life. We don't have to like it. It is what it is. People get messed up--physically and mentally. Our country ain't perfect, but it is ours. Those of us who were military were not and are not policy makers.
HSguarari UR FUCKING DEAD U 7 YEAR PIECE OF SHIT U DIDN'T EVEN KNOW JOHN CONNORS AND THE REST OF THOSE SRALS THEY WHERE DOING THERE JOB AND DIED FOR THERE COUNTRY AND U BETTER HOPE ALOT PF US DON'T FUCKING FIND WHERE U LIVE OR UR FUCKED UP KID, AND MAIN REASON IM SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE JOHN CONNORS WAS MY COUSIN AND HAS 3 MEMORIALS FOR HIS SERVICE AND LEARNED MORE LANGUAGES THEN U CAN COUNT MOTHER FUCKER
@devdog213 Even if you cant type and your shift key is stuck, people died cause Bush had a CIA relationship with Noriega that soured and he got the children of the US slave corporate labor to go in and kill for his personal cause, period. US national security was never at stake, actually it hasnt been at stake since WWII.
@freedomisfromtruth Make that the drug relationship. Enough came out after the invasion linking Bush, clinton and et al to Noriega and drug trafficking, which by the way was being conducted by special forces with their radars in the jungles of Darien: Operation Watchtower. Planeloads of dope leaving Howard AFB. Some cause
Nice comment dude. Anybody that was down there during the invasion knows that The Panama Deception (a so-called documentary) was a joke. I laughed my ass off on some of the more outrageous allegations against the U.S.. The funniest claim was that U.S. soldiers used laser guns. I would have liked a laser blaster, but all they gave me an M16.
@PanVet100 would u like if a country 100000 times bigger would invade the US ? just cause??? killing ppl randomly and testing new weaponary like if we would be rats??? USA is a SHAME... i would want to see a video about the panamanians that were killed trying to defend our country!!!!! more than 3000 were killed in less than 10 days.
@donatopirrod Well, I wouldn't like it, but nobody likes being invaded. The elected government asked the USA to get rid of Noriega and his thug government/ military, so we did. Endara didn't invite the American bull dog into the wolf's (Noriega) lair and expect us to play with that animal. Most of the Panamaian soldiers/ civilians were killed on the first day and I don't think there were 3000. Where's the evidence for this high number? I'll always remember the Panamanians chanting, "USA, USA!"
@PanVet100 conadehupa comfirmed more than 3,500 kills, thats sad because u were only asked to kill noriega... im sure russians would snipe him and thats it... he was the only rat, he killed omar torrijos with a bomb on a plane... ppl says it was a CIA kill because he bring back the panama canal. and all americans got to leave on 1999. after that panama has turned into one of the most developed countries of latin america... seach for picture of the city if u want.
@donatopirrod Contiunued: We were glad to help you create your country, defend you for over a hundred years, build that engineering marvel in the Panama Canal, when nobody else could, save you from Noriega's dictatorship, so you could ultimately stand on your own feet and become a prosperous democratic country. Good luck amigo.
@PanVet100 americans actually naver cared for us. in the century Americans haved been on panama they never gave any tecnologycal advance to any part of the country exept for ur fucking canal. if u didnt like noriega, then why he was a cia agent? why does cia killed omar torrijos? everything for the fucking canal. Even u know you invade panama so u can eliminate the panamanian defense forces angent the canal back. but it failed. if not, why did noriega worked fot the cia...??
@donatopirrod Everything you have is because of the US, otherwise you would still be a backwater state of Columbia w/ no canal. I understand why some poor Hispanics are unappreciative and use the US as a scapegoat, but you should blame Noriega or their mismanaged government. You asked us to leave and we did, so take responsibility for your country. There's no proof Torrijos was killed by the CIA. If you don't know your history and have to use profanity there's no reason for us to converse. Bye.
@PanVet100 There's no proof Torrijos was killed by the CIA- HAHAHAHA ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? The CIA certainly did kill Torrijos & it's documented in only about 200 BOOKS.
@ed11561 No, I'm not, but thanks for asking. Perhaps you are. I think you are probably confusing books with documentation. Anyone can write a book or even a statement here and claim something is a fact. Again where is your EVIDENCE that backs up your claim that the CIA killed Torrijos??? Why is soooo hard to provide proof on here?
@PanVet100 I'll bet you think the CIA never toppled Government in South America or never killed anyone in power in foreign nations. That's why the US SPECIFICALLY had to create a LAW FORBIDDING EXACTLY THAT.-ASSASSINATION OF FOREIGN LEADERS. But the USA never does anything wrong. HAHAHAHAHA Fucking terrorist bastards.
@PanVet100 Torrijos' death generated charges and speculation that he was the victim of an assassination plot. For instance, in pre-trial hearings in Miami in May 1991, Manuel Noriega's attorney, Frank Rubino, was quoted as saying "General Noriega has in his possession documents showing attempts to assassinate General Noriega and Mr. Torrijos by agencies of the United States." CIA- YOU are the 1 who doesn't know history.
@ed11561 Ahh!!! So a lying, thieving, murderous dictator in Manuel Noriega is your best witness that the CIA assassinated Torrijos. You sure have high standards. Okay, I don't know history. Why the hostility??? This Youtube video was originally intended as a tribute to dead US soldiers (many of whom I saw dead at the field hospital), not as a place for disrespectful people like you to trash their memories and Bush/ CIA policies. There are many other videos, websites and forums for that purpose.
@PanVet100 Ahh!!! So a lying, thieving, murderous dictator in Manuel Noriega is your best witness that the CIA assassinated Torrijos-Hey genius the CIA PAID HIM FOR DECADES & Bush gave him a payraise-that's FACT.So Bushy boy must have thought pretty highly of him.
My point is not to praise dead soldiers but TO STOP THEM FROM DYING IN THE 1ST PLACE. And BUSH is the one that sent them to die FOR HIS OWN SELFISH REASONS.Panama has never been a threat to america,.EVER.
@PanVet100 Everything you have is because of the US, otherwise you would still be a backwater state of Columbia w/ no canal-That proves what a fucking moron you are.High &might fucking asshole.
@PanVet100 There were plenty of countries that wanted to work with Panama & let them maintain their soverignty over the canal.Carter gave it back to them.Scumbag Reagan STOLE IT BACK-PURE FUCKING SCUM
@PanVet100 Thanks friend. Sorry I didn't see this sooner. One of the things they conveniently left out of that ridiculous, one-sided documentary was the Cuban/ communist connection. I actually found ID on a dead soldier in a Panamanian uniform that read Cubano Militaria over the guy's picture. Their presence was ushed up by everyone.
@PanVet100 The funniest claim was that U.S. soldiers used laser guns.THAT'S SHEER STUPIDITY.But seeing where it's coming from.....
I would have been very proud of killing 5000 UNARMED HELPLESS CIVILIANS who were mostly sleeping myself.
I guess what Kissinger said is correct..."In Haig's presence, Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as 'dumb, stupid animals to be used' as pawns for foreign policy."
well the usa stole the panama canal back&still smuggles all the drugs.
@ed11561 Yes, the statements that soldiers used lasers is ignorant, but that came from the inaccurate, left-wing propaganda film The Panama Deception. I'm usually tolerant of low budget documentaries, but that one was pathetic.
I'm sorry that you have such a low opinion of the USA, the military and specifically SOLDIERS. We should probably pull out of all warring and 3rd world countries and let them devour themselves. I hope we never meet in person and think we should stop talking here. Bye.
@PanVet100 the panama deception wasn't that inaccurate but the quotes they got from stupid superstitious natives was ridiculous.But i guess that's what happens when u go to bed & half of your neighborhood is up in flames with bombs going off all around you.And then after 3 days of that-people whom you knew-you never see again.
If you had the knowledge i had of what the US has done b4 WW2&after-you would be ashamed to be an american.Soldiers obeying like robots=MAI LAI MASSACRES=PANAMA murders.
WHY are we not invading Mexico now to KILL off all the murdering and soul slaying DRUG CARTEL lords...? The DRUG LORD CARTELS are the scum and scourge of the earth. After they are moped up, take out the rest of the druggy organizations around the world. And after that, finally the legalized druggie pushers and minds behind it that write synthetic cocaine prescriptions to OUR CHILDREN. FUCK YOU AND YOUR FILTHY MOM DRUG CARTEL FUCKS... CURSE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY..
@Wishbringer3 the people who took Noriega down let the cartels take over because miami and la were both as fucked espcially by the late 80's, and so why did they fuck with the guy with the canal, hes he only one who at the time could have gotten up tail into the coke labs. I have read accounts from the red teams that did not agree with these orders supposedly from GBush, a vindictive nazi who will stop at nothing to take as many lives down with him as hitler. along with the rest of the gop.
@Wishbringer3 Mexico has to ask us. As for Panama...we had treaty rights with the Panamanians which they were violating (and we were picking a fight with them). Why aren't we going into Mexico? Then we would own the mess. Better to support the Mexican Government (as corrupt as it is) and help them "stabilize" the situation.
You have some mistakes in your videos with reguards to the 5TH Infantry Division. I was there with the 5th, You have Roddrick Ringstaff as being with the 6th INF....WRONG..He was assigned to D Company, 5th Infantry division. He was a medic with me in the 5th....He is a close friend with me also and lives here in san antonioo, texas also....Lastly you have the wrong crest for the 5th Infantry Division......sadly enough the 5th did most of the fighting in Panama and you guys dont respect us. sad
@zmack28 I am a former member of the 5ht ID and yes, you are right. The 5th did most of the fighting in the hardest contested areas of the capitol. I know. I was there. And we get no recognition for our role in this action.
@5thidsoldier So...who was it that took on the Battalion 2000? Oh, yeah, it was the Rangers who took them on. And the Panamanian Marines at Coco Solo? Hmmm...wasn't that C 4-17 (7 ID). So, exactly who was the 5th fighting? Digbats and cops?
@zmack28 You were attached to the 193rd and TF Bayonet who was also "downtown" with the 5th as you were doing all of the fighting.My memory recalls the 1/508 th first attemting to assualt the Commandancia and then a company from 3rd Ranger Batt actually did the assualt. The rest of the regt myself included was tad busy at Rio Hato, Omar Torijjos International, and the Seals at Patilla. 5 Rangers and 4 Seals were lost elsewhere so ovbiously there was some "fighting" and dying elswhere.
@zmack28 I was a medic already stationed in Panama and working out of Gorgas Hospital. 5th Mech was the shit!! The fought their asses off beginning December 19th. The news says Just Cause was Dec 20th, but I was already triaging civilians and military casualties by 0000 20 DEC. Fucking 82nd jumped in on DZ's that Rangers had already secured then started shooting each other up. The news stories got all that shit wrong 5th Mech and Rangers did the work the first 12 hours.
today a day like today 21 years that an invasion step in panama yi really is sad to remember comrades who died together We had the invasion and some simpre tendre qe me in mind I am sobreiviente of invasion by then I was only 21 years and serving DEFENSE forces today to see the video that I'm sad to remember these events
Watch the Panama Deception for any idiot who thinks this invasion was just. Makes me ashamed that the Bush family is part of my fucking crumbling nation. Bush, the former head of the CIA put Noriega on the payroll after he was taken off it for drug trafficking and he enabled noriega to continue to have military control while being protected by the US for any discovered drug smuggling. I hate to say it but terrorism has been purpotraited by none other than the USA time and time again.
Actually that docudrama is a bit of a one-sided joke to those of us who served during the invasion. If they wanted it to be a factual documentary they would have interviewed the American and Panamanian soldiers, who did the fighting, not just the poor that were disenchanted with their government. When I was down there, all I remember is the unbridled cheering and appreciation. from Panamanian civilians.
i didnt know these guys, im not navy, im army, but my highest respects to these great american heroes of special forces that gave their lives for america. and the same to all those who have or do give thier lives in combat for america and our freedoms, thank u all brothers! glad u kicked that panamanian ass! fuck yeh!
@MontyPython134 A son of a bitch named Historian4ever fucking pissed me off by saying that we kicked Noriega's ass because we're imperialism and because we're trying to control drug trafficking.
There were some relatively dumb members of the Dignity Battalions, those who believed the propaganda and rhetoric of their "leaders" who would push them into the lines of US Special Forces or airborne infantry. Unfortunately for them, they became many of the apparently "civilian" casualties during Operation Just Cause.
@agricola I agree with you. I also happen to know that the Army wasn't counting PDF soldiers who weren't in uniform as PDF casualties. They were counted as civilians for some reason.
When the invasion began and the fighting started, most of the members of these "Dignity Battalions" were not stupid enough to think they could actually stand up to and defeat a modern US military force.
...the squads were created with help from a small group of Cuban advisers in Panama and modeled on similar militias formed by Fidel Castro shortly after the Cuban revolution." Cuba also helped by sending shipping containers full of AK-47's and ammo to arm these units.
Panama's "Dignity Battalions" It was a move that worked both sides against the middle. By creating and arming the "Dignity Battalions", Noriega made himself even more popular among the poorest Panamanians. By giving them little more than a t-shirt bearing the name of their particular paramilitary unit, a "rank" in that unit, and an assault rifle, he catered to their needs for self respect and recognition.
in the late 1980's as relations between Panama's military dictator Manuel Antonio Noriega and the United States were deteriorating, Noriega decided to use a kind of terror tactic - he went to Cuba and asked Fidel Castro to send him containers full of AK-47's and ammunition to arm Panama's poor. Noriega was convinced the United States would never invade, faced with the threat of thousands of peasants armed with fully automatic assault rifles.
I have a ?... Are there any soldiers, who have left comments, that were physically there? I have some questions for you guys if there are! (Preferably someone in the U.S. Navy... Im more familiar with that branch..) :)
@agricola DUDE, your user name should be called AVICOLA,,,so air headed,flying high who's the marquette of all drugs?,certainlly not that small coutry. There were so many t- shirts given to almost everyone,bearing the name of dignity batallion but there were not DIGNITIES B; poor panamanians did not have any clothes to weare thanks to the embargo of the us so the us troops saw them as targets ;but yet they were civilians they did not have that many choises as far as what to wear.
It's sad to see the American troops that died, but what about all of the innocent people in Panama? Operation "Just Cause" wow, they invaded just because they wanted too. America is one of the biggest terrorist groups in the world...
Hi, I was reading your comment about the Invasion of Panama. I know it is not easy but I am just trying to find someone: His name is Brent Brown, aprox. age 44 years old from 82nd Airborne Division, 508th Parachute Infantry. He was in Fort Davis during the invasion to Panama. I will appreciate any help.
...stereotype) and I'm offended. I'm sure it was a horrible experience for you, but think of the thousands caught up in the drug trafficking, corrupt politics, riots and a war. FUCK YOU! Why the hell did you choose Eye of the Tiger as a song? ASSHOLE! At least you didn't pick born in the U.S.A.!
It is wrong to forget such a tragedy like Panama during the time of political and civil unrest in the '80's, but remembering it like it was some sort of Call of Duty "lets go shoot people because they're subhuman" way is disgusting. I'm American (not the NASCAR lets grab a beer and shoot cans from our porch...
Wow time flies!!! Pfc. John M Price and I went through Airborne School and R.I.P(Ranger Indoctrination Program) together and on to 2nd Ranger bn together. Damn, war sucks!!!! Sua Sponte..
Noriega was an idiot. If he had just let the "Free Elections" he annouced alone Blue Spoon never wood have occured. Instead after Noriega's hand picked candidates lost 3:1 he declared the elections null and then had the winner beaten and under house arrest and Noriega PDF started shooting protestors in the streets. Jimmy Carter really screwed up by giving the Panamanians the canal which led to Noriegas mentality.
USA army destroy buildings, and killed kids just to arrest noriega of drugs. Fuck off the media is bullshit. Panama was no danger to the USA. Noriega was no drug dealer. That's what Fox news would say about Noriega is a druglord bullshit the media is bull shit. Is lies because that was an attack to Panama which meant war. USA invaded Panama fuck off USA.
@xSeriox4 the US does not target children, we leave that to pieces of shit car bombers, troops are only trained to shoot people that are a threat, so take your propaganda elsewhere
@bigreddawg91 yea, usa never targets children thats why you only see the bloody faces, and kids with no legs when they get bombed by the usa air force planes in Afghanistan.
@xSeriox4 oh really? now i thought that was because INSURGENTS BOMB MARKETS, SCHOOLS, BUSES, of their own people. you see we wouldn't be building schools for them, providing food and water, if we wanted to destroy them. You're really an idiot, we would just nuke the place if we wanted them dead. dipshit
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@swflprof: I see they even train you to have a sense of humor, what a perfectionist army of yours! I wonder if they train you folks in human rights, foreign cultures, history and demographics... Hmm I'm guessing not, since shooting your Mattel M16's (thanks for clarifying such an important fact btw, I feel much wiser now) is probably much more appealing yo you, isn't it now Rambo?
Actually they did train me not to make assumptions such as you have by thinking you know anything about me. In reality I am Hispanic, from a place that
All these pathetic, coward little plastic soldiers with their Nintendo weapons and their rock music make me sick, MURDERERS! Ignorance at its most!
John Conners, Donald McFaul, Isaac Rodríguez (betrayer of his own people btw), Chris Tilghman and Garreth Isaak were fucking cowards, just like the rest of U.S soldiers. The only difference is THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!
It's sure easy to call killed-in-action soldiers cowards when they're no longer alive to make you eat your hateful words. Anonymity on your computer in a third-world country that's protected by the United States seems to make you very brave, but alas only with the dead heroes you denounce. That's truly pathetic mi amigo.
this was a war crime, pure and simple. you have to be really brainwashed to try to justify this highly illegal invasion. the UN voted by 70-20 that this was an "egregious violation of international law" and harshly condemned it. Watch the documentary "The Panama Deception" its on youtube and won the academy award for best documentary. it is the TRUTH about what Bush Sr., Cheney, and Reagan lied about. Noriega was a CIA agent for a long time, Bush gave him a raise and hired him
@swflprof But I bet you believe the lies and propaganda from Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney.... You need to not look at everything from a jingoistic pro-US lens. You need to be objective. This invasion was illegal by any interpretation of international law.
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Wow... really? I wonder why this doesn't surprise me... Another authoritarian little plastic soldier who masturbates to his AK-47. You are 53 years old and yet you haven't learned shit! Well, we can't really expect you to learn anything, you are just another brainwashed idiot. MURDERER!
Sorry to disappoint you but I remember missing the AK 47 masturbation class. I can check with the other MARINES who attended Parris Island but pretty sure they missed it too.
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On December 20, 1989, the United States broke both international law and its own government policies by invading Panama in order to bring its President Manuel Noriega to justice for drug trafficking
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eye of the tiger? to firebomb SLEEPING CIVILIANS?? fucking moronic
ed11561 3 days ago
John Perkins alleges in his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, that Torrijos was assassinated by American interests, who had a bomb planted aboard his aircraft (by CIA organized operatives).[5] The alleged motive is that some American business leaders and politicians strongly opposed the negotiations between Torrijos and a group of Japanese businessmen led by Shigeo Nagano, who were promoting the idea of a new, larger, sea-level canal for Panama
ed11561 4 days ago
@ed11561 The key words here are ALLEGES and ALLEGED! I've seen lots of things alleged (UFOS, Bigfoot, crop circles, etc, etc., etc., etc.,), but you should know that it's not the same as actual EVIDENCE. I really think we're on two different levels here and that you don't any proof to back up your claims. Nice try though.
PanVet100 3 days ago
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@PanVet100 Ask Pat Tillman WHY he was against the war & why he KNEW the US was totally wrong in Iraq&Afghanistan.It's written down&possibly a reason why he died.He was very vocal about it.I'm not against soldiers but braindead gung-ho fuckers like the puppy killers&grenade throwers are pure scum.
To bring up bigfoot&ufo's is sheer stupidity. but whatever.Go google US MILITARY INVASIONS & see who the real fucking terrorists are.I have met the enemy & he is US.
And i have plenty of proof-allover
ed11561 3 days ago
That was a damn shame ANYONE had to die-including the 5000 Panamanians who were attacked for no reason other than G.W.Bush being denied training Contras in Panama. THAT is why Panama was invaded.Because Noreiga would not allow FOREIGN TROOPS to train in his country like Bush wanted.So the Bush LIAR painted Noreiga as a big bad drug dealer(when Bush was the Drug smuggler himself)ask CelerinoCastillo-DEA
americandrugwar . com/new/castillo.htm
How many did BUSH kill in Iraq?Over 5000 so far.US
ed11561 5 days ago
@ed11561 Is it a shame that anyone has to die in any war or ONLY when they are started by Bush?? You're whole theory that Panama was invaded because Noriega wouldn't let us train is the silliest one I've heard yet. You apparently don't know this, but thousands of US troops were stationed there long before the invasion. They had daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and special training all over Panama. I've seen many unrealistic death figures of 10,000, 8,000, 5,000, 4,000, but where's the EVIDENCE???
PanVet100 3 days ago
@PanVet100 where's the evidence? The panamanian people have all the records of the people who were killed-buried&dug up again & categorized.They have most of the records.It';s not going to be on fucking youtube genius
":You're whole theory that Panama was invaded because Noriega wouldn't let us train is the silliest one I've heard yet"Well that only shows what an uneducated fuck you truly are.That was obvious to all at the time.US Troops are not CONTRAS genius.And troops are everywhere-CUBAeven
ed11561 3 days ago
@ed11561 Ugh! Then why has their number fluctuated from 3000-10000 by various groups, then back to 4000 for 20 years? I was THERE with 1000s of good people (not murderers) who never said anything about a death toll over a 1000 at the time. Where were you? Apparently, you can't read well. I never said you had to post your evidence, but you could reveal where it's located. With your ignorant profanity, comprehension and grammar problems, it's not wise to criticize the education of others. Adios.
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@PanVet100 never said you had to post your evidence-WHO CARES what u say genius.I'll post where & WHAT is said whenever i feel like it.
A death toll over a THOUSAND? And That's alright dummy? Who the fuck are you GOD?
NOONE should ever INVADED PANAMA for any BULLSHIT REASON & kill ANYONE.NOT 1. I don't have grammar or comprehension problems moron.You're the one in DENIAL not me.And i suppose you were all over every square inch of land there & KNEW ALL.Doubt it.Probably just a killing grunt.
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@PanVet100 I was THERE with 1000s of good people-WHO FIREBOMBED CIVILIAN NEIGHBORHOODS & KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THEIR BEDS.& whoever came to the windows like the article said.horrendous. Worse even then MAI-LAI & that was in ANOTHER MANUFACTURED WAR. No US Navy was ever attacked by the N.Viet Commies but it sure sounded great.How many americans did those scumbags in the White House get killed?Over 60,000-and YES we left POW's there with McCain&Kerry's KNOWLEDGE.PURE FUCKING SCUMBAGS inoffice
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@PanVet100 everybody in panama hated noriega... he always knew about the invasion. USA didnt see panama as a country to help grow and develop. you only wanted it for the canal and the money. u see it with eyes of conquer. u thought panama was a property of the united states. panamanians asked USA for help on their bad situations, but always ended worse, USA is a fail.
donatopirrod 1 day ago
I agree, which is why Panama should have ousted Noriega. Most Americans didn't give a damn about the canal once Carter signed it away. I didn't even know where is was in 89 and glad we got rid of it.
PanVet100 1 day ago
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@PanVet100 "One of the earliest traceable sources of the assertion of large-scale casualties was former U.S. Atty. Gen. Ramsey Clark. He told a news conference last January in Panama City that he had evidence of 2,000 to 4,000 deaths, mostly civilian.
Asked at the time to substantiate his claim, Clark refused, telling one reporter: "You are an investigative journalist. You find out the sources."
I'll take his word over anything U think any day of the week.HAHAHAHA
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The allegation was given new life most recently by a segment on CBS Television's "60 Minutes," which quoted from an allegedly secret U.S. military document that put "casualties" at at least 1,000.
Correspondent Mike Wallace also interviewed a Panamanian woman who said she had found her dead father in an unmarked mass grave and contended that hundreds more were also buried in the cemetery.
articles . latimes . com/1990-10-27/news/mn-2882_1_mass-grave
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@PanVet100 "My criticism is not that the Americans have hidden the true death count, or that there are mass graves," he added. "My concern is that of those killed, far too many were civilians, mostly women and children."These, he said, were the victims of their own "curiosity" and nervous, poorly trained American troops."Women and children naturally went to the window and looked out when they heard the fighting," Troncoso said, "and the nervous soldiers shot them." BigBadVets-hahaha
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@PanVet100 WHAT WAR? THAT wasn't a war-it was an INVASION-an uncalled for invasion&killing of hundreds&hundreds of CIVILIANS
Bush should have been HUNG-JUST LIKE JR.should have been
ed11561 3 days ago
I've heard that ESTIMATE before, but where's a name list and proof that everyone was killed by Americans and not Panamanian troops? I actually saw a girl that was executed by one of Noriega's DigBats and it's haunted me for years. The numerous Cen. Am. numbers of the dead civilians (Codehuca-2500, Conahupa-3500, CDHRCA-4000, etc) are not the last word on the issue. Other sources (European Press-1000-2000, UN-2500, etc) had less biased estimates and they weren't all civilians, but soldiers too.
PanVet100 1 week ago
ALL OF U AMERICANS A FUCKING SHAME, ALLWAYS INVADING COUNTRIES FOR MONEY. IM SURE THAT NON OF U KNOWS THE FULL STORY ABOUT AMERICANS ON THE COUNTRY!.. KENEDY WAS KILLED AFTER THE 3RD TRY!!! FIDEL CASTRO HAS BEEN TRIED TO KILL MORE THAN 600 TIMES. THE CUBANS ALREADY HAVE THE CURE OF LUNGS CANCER BUT U ONLY SPEND UR MONEY ON WAR. 30 AMERICANS WERE KILLED ON PANAMA AND MORE THAN 3000 PANAMANIANS WERE KILLED. WHEN U ACTUALLY SAID U CAME FOR NORIEGA... THATS WHY THE USA IS GOING DOWN... ALL 4 MONEY
donatopirrod 1 week ago
Bravo Company 3/27 str8outtatexas1.
td3620 3 weeks ago
Damn time passes so fast. I was stationed at ft.ord ca from 1988-1991 and part of the 7th division light fighter unit bravo 2/8 fa. We went to panama for operation just cause and it was the hottest,humid, weather ever. It was an experience, but we did'nt see any action. All my boys came back alive. James mills,pete cordova,bernard robinson,benny mendez,shawn mitchell,wayne williams and others. man i miss those days.
str8outtatexas1 1 month ago
@str8outtatexas1 My dad was in Fort Ord with the 7th ID. I was just a little kid in 1st grade when he went down there. Last name was Downs.
jeepinbanditrider 3 weeks ago
@jeepinbanditrider - that's cool, what unit was he in and where was he originally from state wise?
str8outtatexas1 3 weeks ago
@str8outtatexas1 Don't know the exact unit he's originally from Alabama. I wound up in the Marine Corps working in the Aviation field lol. Kinda departed from the family line :)
jeepinbanditrider 3 weeks ago
all you know that the USA killed many innocent people?... this is nothing to be proud of... war wont ever be the solution, and if you have problem with some one, go and deal with it , and let the innocent live... why innocent people have to pay for an asshole? WHY!?...
punkrockpax 2 months ago
@punkrockpax Like how it worked in Bosnia? This happened before on Europe's backyard yet the killing continue to go on for three years because many people believed to stay pacifists would work out but in reality it doesn't. You say war won't be the solution? Try asking that to the people of Bosnia.
The failture of Bosnia shows that brute military force needs to be used in case diplomacy fails.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@Hperman09 when the people of the same country fights for their rights, when the gouvernment dont give solution, there will be a civil war, in that case its ok, but man USA is not the world police.. they can not invade countries in their will... and kill innocents? you think thats a solution?... i dont, if you have problems with a specific guy go and kill him, and dont kill innocents... in a war no one wins... everyone loses something... family friends, love... things... life...
punkrockpax 2 months ago
@punkrockpax I personally don't agree a lot of things the U.S. did. The UN asked us to step up to deal with conflicts. That's how superpowere go and do. If you look at Bosnia, you see how Europe failed terribly in that leadership role and asked the U.S. to step up and do something. Same thing with the first Gulf War, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait asked us for help. If you say nobody asked the U.S. to step up to conflicts, then you deluded.
No country had the politcal and military will like the USA.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@Hperman09 in case of back up request is ok, but, for example, Irak, Panama, Libia...
those contries didnt ask for the US... they just Arrived... start to kill people, ok, "they were killing Rebels" but in the first case they are invading their land, they are just fighting for it, ok, sadamm maybe was an asshole and gaddafi too but why wait so long and why they didnt "help" those countries before? those presidents were in power a very long time... i think they do that for something else...
punkrockpax 2 months ago
@punkrockpax Libya asked the NATO countries for help.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@Hperman09 all those kind of Organizations are controlled by the US... and i've heard that when a country doesnt want to do what the USA wants it to do, they start a war using a excuse like they will free a country from its dictator or terrorism or something like that or presidenst or public figures just die in a wierd accident...
punkrockpax 2 months ago
I was in C. Co. and knew both of these guys. Fuck Noriega, and his POS worshippers. They were soldiers, Airborne soldiers and they will not be forgotten by those of us who served with them.
EstavanCruz 2 months ago
Paramusica3 were you there by the time of the invasion? I guess you did not. Most of casualties were civilian peopel who was trying to run away for their lives. Bush was our osama bin laden that 1989. December 20th was our 11s
PERROLOCOMCFLY 2 months ago
5TH INF HEADQUARTERS SUPPORT PLATOON POL, YOU CALL WE HAUL
mrj2359 2 months ago
THE REALLITY IS THAT MANY OF THE PANAMANIANS WHO DIED, WHERE BATALLORNEROS DE LA DIGNIDAD. PEOPLE WHO NORIEGA BRAIN-WASHED TO DEFEND HIM.
WHAT A HOPELESS IDEA TO FIGHT AGAINST A GIANT...THEY TRYED AN DIED.
paramusica3 3 months ago
Noriega was moved to Europe from an American prison. And no one knows what happened to him. That child rapist murderer is probly free.
269dremer 3 months ago
@269dremer Probaby is i just wonder how easy it would be for him to make his back to panama and shit starts all over again down there.
ridder6689 3 months ago
I was in el chorio when it happen and im 100% in agreement with workingclassass. And im both from Panama and americA...And served in Iraq like a jackass...
1rebelblood 3 months ago
Countries in need of an Operation Just Cause - PRC Russia North Korea Venezuela Cuba Iran And thats just a start most of their peolple don't hate us,Its just the people who are running the show and force feeding them crap on TV only dictators and fruit loops need "State run TV".
ridder6689 4 months ago
@ridder6689 Looks as though you spend too much time on Modern warfare pish ,get yourself a life and dont let the rich elites continue to brainwash you.Use that thing between your ears,go check Noam Chomsky or John Pilger on utube and dont let the US media corporations continue to fool you
workingclasslass 2 months ago
@workingclasslass I am proud of what we had to do in Grenada and Panama so i don't give a damn on what the anti-war goons have to say, the same goes for Iraq and the Stan and im in my 20s so i don't play Modern Goddamn Warfare every freakin day like i did 6 or 7 years ago so i am no fool, that means i got a life and job alright so stop comparing every last gamer in this world as a mindless idiot because many of them are smart tallented and fully aware of this worlds problems and are humans too.
ridder6689 2 months ago
Iraq and Afghanistan not so much
thevideocrazydude 4 months ago
i really liked Operation Just Cause cuz thats 1 of the few conflicts in which we actually had Just Cause :P. Somalia 2
thevideocrazydude 4 months ago
U.S. soldiers will always have my admiration and respect until the day i take my dying breath. not only are they some tough MFers.. they VOLUNTEER to do this stuff.
derrickbanes 5 months ago
I loved this song in Persepolis
newnameism 5 months ago
Remember how lightly you speak about the real deal. Lack of knowing will not grant you peace from your ignorance sir/mam. Trust that lives, dreams, love was lost on all sides near balboa in balboa on ft.clayton and for those who can not directly relate probably should not speak on it. I have talked and told my fair share I am speaking with experience. This goes for there and Iraq or any battle ground. When I was in Panama a civilian threw a grenade in a basement bar shits real.
straty795961 5 months ago
in my JROCT class my sgt told me to look this up.
JamesMcCIoud 6 months ago
Ya know its funny 'Never gonna give you up' is on the List of songs played.
Noriega got Rick rolled before it was a MEME
TatsuZZmage 6 months ago
To all you communist/socialist American haters, the people of Panama said it best at 4:34. Those guys are the guys that this vid commemorates; our fallen comrades. Those guys are still great!
dmillsify 6 months ago
Fucking US fascists murdering civilians again or killing guys in flip flops .
Rise up US soldier and worker ! the rich cunts that get you to go and get blown up for them dont give a fuck about you ....only money and class war !
workingclasslass 6 months ago
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@workingclasslass shut your mouth you fucking hippie!!
dmillsify 6 months ago
@workingclasslass Welcome to my world! What murdered civilians? Where do you get your information? suggest you put on a uniform and serve your country! What a joke! GMC(SW) The only easy day was yesterday! KMA
seals481 6 months ago
@seals481
roger that
straty795961 5 months ago
@workingclasslass
Remember how lightly you speak about the real deal. Lack of knowing will not grant you peace from your ignorance sir/mam. Trust that lives, dreams, love was lost on all sides near balboa in balboa on ft.clayton and for those who can not directly relate probably should not speak on it. I have talked and told my fair share I am speaking with experience. This goes for there and Iraq or any battle ground. When I was in Panama a civilian threw a grenade in a basement
straty795961 5 months ago
A lot of US soldiers lost their life due to a personal afair...HAd to be a better way to get the Head!!!
TheDezz16 8 months ago
My dad was in the marines from 1984-1990 and he helped get Noriega :D
TheOwlzombie 8 months ago
Very Patriotic pulling off an illegal invasion to get control back of a region which was in treaty over from Carter. Noriega and Bush go back when he was head of CIA and ordered coverup of the drug activity. Soldiers killing indiscrimately without even knowing the reason they are there, I guess they learned from grade school not to question authority. Drug traffic increased after this invasion also.
freedomisfromtruth 8 months ago
@ptbarnumbuck We got a US Marines who was shot DEAD for nothing there!
1stMarineCapt 9 months ago
Pray for Peace, train for war and if you weren't there--Shut the f**k up! None of you opinionated people get it, do you? War is a fact of life. We don't have to like it. It is what it is. People get messed up--physically and mentally. Our country ain't perfect, but it is ours. Those of us who were military were not and are not policy makers.
Daniel5721 11 months ago
HSguarari UR FUCKING DEAD U 7 YEAR PIECE OF SHIT U DIDN'T EVEN KNOW JOHN CONNORS AND THE REST OF THOSE SRALS THEY WHERE DOING THERE JOB AND DIED FOR THERE COUNTRY AND U BETTER HOPE ALOT PF US DON'T FUCKING FIND WHERE U LIVE OR UR FUCKED UP KID, AND MAIN REASON IM SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE JOHN CONNORS WAS MY COUSIN AND HAS 3 MEMORIALS FOR HIS SERVICE AND LEARNED MORE LANGUAGES THEN U CAN COUNT MOTHER FUCKER
devdog213 11 months ago
@devdog213 Even if you cant type and your shift key is stuck, people died cause Bush had a CIA relationship with Noriega that soured and he got the children of the US slave corporate labor to go in and kill for his personal cause, period. US national security was never at stake, actually it hasnt been at stake since WWII.
freedomisfromtruth 8 months ago
@freedomisfromtruth Make that the drug relationship. Enough came out after the invasion linking Bush, clinton and et al to Noriega and drug trafficking, which by the way was being conducted by special forces with their radars in the jungles of Darien: Operation Watchtower. Planeloads of dope leaving Howard AFB. Some cause
tromboista 7 months ago
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Nice comment dude. Anybody that was down there during the invasion knows that The Panama Deception (a so-called documentary) was a joke. I laughed my ass off on some of the more outrageous allegations against the U.S.. The funniest claim was that U.S. soldiers used laser guns. I would have liked a laser blaster, but all they gave me an M16.
PanVet100 1 year ago 13
@PanVet100 would u like if a country 100000 times bigger would invade the US ? just cause??? killing ppl randomly and testing new weaponary like if we would be rats??? USA is a SHAME... i would want to see a video about the panamanians that were killed trying to defend our country!!!!! more than 3000 were killed in less than 10 days.
donatopirrod 1 week ago
@donatopirrod Well, I wouldn't like it, but nobody likes being invaded. The elected government asked the USA to get rid of Noriega and his thug government/ military, so we did. Endara didn't invite the American bull dog into the wolf's (Noriega) lair and expect us to play with that animal. Most of the Panamaian soldiers/ civilians were killed on the first day and I don't think there were 3000. Where's the evidence for this high number? I'll always remember the Panamanians chanting, "USA, USA!"
PanVet100 1 week ago
@PanVet100 conadehupa comfirmed more than 3,500 kills, thats sad because u were only asked to kill noriega... im sure russians would snipe him and thats it... he was the only rat, he killed omar torrijos with a bomb on a plane... ppl says it was a CIA kill because he bring back the panama canal. and all americans got to leave on 1999. after that panama has turned into one of the most developed countries of latin america... seach for picture of the city if u want.
donatopirrod 1 week ago
@donatopirrod Contiunued: We were glad to help you create your country, defend you for over a hundred years, build that engineering marvel in the Panama Canal, when nobody else could, save you from Noriega's dictatorship, so you could ultimately stand on your own feet and become a prosperous democratic country. Good luck amigo.
PanVet100 1 week ago
@PanVet100 americans actually naver cared for us. in the century Americans haved been on panama they never gave any tecnologycal advance to any part of the country exept for ur fucking canal. if u didnt like noriega, then why he was a cia agent? why does cia killed omar torrijos? everything for the fucking canal. Even u know you invade panama so u can eliminate the panamanian defense forces angent the canal back. but it failed. if not, why did noriega worked fot the cia...??
donatopirrod 1 week ago
@donatopirrod Everything you have is because of the US, otherwise you would still be a backwater state of Columbia w/ no canal. I understand why some poor Hispanics are unappreciative and use the US as a scapegoat, but you should blame Noriega or their mismanaged government. You asked us to leave and we did, so take responsibility for your country. There's no proof Torrijos was killed by the CIA. If you don't know your history and have to use profanity there's no reason for us to converse. Bye.
PanVet100 1 week ago
@PanVet100 There's no proof Torrijos was killed by the CIA- HAHAHAHA ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? The CIA certainly did kill Torrijos & it's documented in only about 200 BOOKS.
ed11561 5 days ago
@ed11561 No, I'm not, but thanks for asking. Perhaps you are. I think you are probably confusing books with documentation. Anyone can write a book or even a statement here and claim something is a fact. Again where is your EVIDENCE that backs up your claim that the CIA killed Torrijos??? Why is soooo hard to provide proof on here?
PanVet100 3 days ago
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@PanVet100 I'll bet you think the CIA never toppled Government in South America or never killed anyone in power in foreign nations. That's why the US SPECIFICALLY had to create a LAW FORBIDDING EXACTLY THAT.-ASSASSINATION OF FOREIGN LEADERS. But the USA never does anything wrong. HAHAHAHAHA Fucking terrorist bastards.
ed11561 3 days ago
@PanVet100 Torrijos' death generated charges and speculation that he was the victim of an assassination plot. For instance, in pre-trial hearings in Miami in May 1991, Manuel Noriega's attorney, Frank Rubino, was quoted as saying "General Noriega has in his possession documents showing attempts to assassinate General Noriega and Mr. Torrijos by agencies of the United States." CIA- YOU are the 1 who doesn't know history.
ed11561 4 days ago
@ed11561 Ahh!!! So a lying, thieving, murderous dictator in Manuel Noriega is your best witness that the CIA assassinated Torrijos. You sure have high standards. Okay, I don't know history. Why the hostility??? This Youtube video was originally intended as a tribute to dead US soldiers (many of whom I saw dead at the field hospital), not as a place for disrespectful people like you to trash their memories and Bush/ CIA policies. There are many other videos, websites and forums for that purpose.
PanVet100 3 days ago
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@PanVet100 Ahh!!! So a lying, thieving, murderous dictator in Manuel Noriega is your best witness that the CIA assassinated Torrijos-Hey genius the CIA PAID HIM FOR DECADES & Bush gave him a payraise-that's FACT.So Bushy boy must have thought pretty highly of him.
My point is not to praise dead soldiers but TO STOP THEM FROM DYING IN THE 1ST PLACE. And BUSH is the one that sent them to die FOR HIS OWN SELFISH REASONS.Panama has never been a threat to america,.EVER.
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@PanVet100 Everything you have is because of the US, otherwise you would still be a backwater state of Columbia w/ no canal-That proves what a fucking moron you are.High &might fucking asshole.
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@PanVet100 There were plenty of countries that wanted to work with Panama & let them maintain their soverignty over the canal.Carter gave it back to them.Scumbag Reagan STOLE IT BACK-PURE FUCKING SCUM
ed11561 3 days ago
@PanVet100 Thanks friend. Sorry I didn't see this sooner. One of the things they conveniently left out of that ridiculous, one-sided documentary was the Cuban/ communist connection. I actually found ID on a dead soldier in a Panamanian uniform that read Cubano Militaria over the guy's picture. Their presence was ushed up by everyone.
PanVet100 1 week ago
@PanVet100 The funniest claim was that U.S. soldiers used laser guns.THAT'S SHEER STUPIDITY.But seeing where it's coming from.....
I would have been very proud of killing 5000 UNARMED HELPLESS CIVILIANS who were mostly sleeping myself.
I guess what Kissinger said is correct..."In Haig's presence, Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as 'dumb, stupid animals to be used' as pawns for foreign policy."
well the usa stole the panama canal back&still smuggles all the drugs.
ed11561 4 days ago
@ed11561 Yes, the statements that soldiers used lasers is ignorant, but that came from the inaccurate, left-wing propaganda film The Panama Deception. I'm usually tolerant of low budget documentaries, but that one was pathetic.
I'm sorry that you have such a low opinion of the USA, the military and specifically SOLDIERS. We should probably pull out of all warring and 3rd world countries and let them devour themselves. I hope we never meet in person and think we should stop talking here. Bye.
PanVet100 3 days ago
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@PanVet100 the panama deception wasn't that inaccurate but the quotes they got from stupid superstitious natives was ridiculous.But i guess that's what happens when u go to bed & half of your neighborhood is up in flames with bombs going off all around you.And then after 3 days of that-people whom you knew-you never see again.
If you had the knowledge i had of what the US has done b4 WW2&after-you would be ashamed to be an american.Soldiers obeying like robots=MAI LAI MASSACRES=PANAMA murders.
ed11561 3 days ago
WHY are we not invading Mexico now to KILL off all the murdering and soul slaying DRUG CARTEL lords...? The DRUG LORD CARTELS are the scum and scourge of the earth. After they are moped up, take out the rest of the druggy organizations around the world. And after that, finally the legalized druggie pushers and minds behind it that write synthetic cocaine prescriptions to OUR CHILDREN. FUCK YOU AND YOUR FILTHY MOM DRUG CARTEL FUCKS... CURSE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY..
Wishbringer3 1 year ago
@Wishbringer3 the people who took Noriega down let the cartels take over because miami and la were both as fucked espcially by the late 80's, and so why did they fuck with the guy with the canal, hes he only one who at the time could have gotten up tail into the coke labs. I have read accounts from the red teams that did not agree with these orders supposedly from GBush, a vindictive nazi who will stop at nothing to take as many lives down with him as hitler. along with the rest of the gop.
ambianimaton 10 months ago
@Wishbringer3 Mexico has to ask us. As for Panama...we had treaty rights with the Panamanians which they were violating (and we were picking a fight with them). Why aren't we going into Mexico? Then we would own the mess. Better to support the Mexican Government (as corrupt as it is) and help them "stabilize" the situation.
plbuster 8 months ago in playlist panama
watch?v=_HaKqJZTbME
ourpangea 1 year ago
You have some mistakes in your videos with reguards to the 5TH Infantry Division. I was there with the 5th, You have Roddrick Ringstaff as being with the 6th INF....WRONG..He was assigned to D Company, 5th Infantry division. He was a medic with me in the 5th....He is a close friend with me also and lives here in san antonioo, texas also....Lastly you have the wrong crest for the 5th Infantry Division......sadly enough the 5th did most of the fighting in Panama and you guys dont respect us. sad
zmack28 1 year ago
@zmack28 My apologies on the mistakes. I took the commands from official records and it appears some of their information was wrong.
swflprof 1 year ago
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publicmario17 9 months ago
@swflprof what is the song/chorus called from the beginning? please tell me.
publicmario17 7 months ago
@zmack28 I am a former member of the 5ht ID and yes, you are right. The 5th did most of the fighting in the hardest contested areas of the capitol. I know. I was there. And we get no recognition for our role in this action.
5thidsoldier 1 year ago
@5thidsoldier So...who was it that took on the Battalion 2000? Oh, yeah, it was the Rangers who took them on. And the Panamanian Marines at Coco Solo? Hmmm...wasn't that C 4-17 (7 ID). So, exactly who was the 5th fighting? Digbats and cops?
plbuster 8 months ago in playlist panama
@zmack28 You were attached to the 193rd and TF Bayonet who was also "downtown" with the 5th as you were doing all of the fighting.My memory recalls the 1/508 th first attemting to assualt the Commandancia and then a company from 3rd Ranger Batt actually did the assualt. The rest of the regt myself included was tad busy at Rio Hato, Omar Torijjos International, and the Seals at Patilla. 5 Rangers and 4 Seals were lost elsewhere so ovbiously there was some "fighting" and dying elswhere.
11B4V 9 months ago
@zmack28 Most of the fighting??? That's a tall statement.
plbuster 8 months ago in playlist panama
@zmack28 I was a medic already stationed in Panama and working out of Gorgas Hospital. 5th Mech was the shit!! The fought their asses off beginning December 19th. The news says Just Cause was Dec 20th, but I was already triaging civilians and military casualties by 0000 20 DEC. Fucking 82nd jumped in on DZ's that Rangers had already secured then started shooting each other up. The news stories got all that shit wrong 5th Mech and Rangers did the work the first 12 hours.
SouthDFWrep 2 months ago
today a day like today 21 years that an invasion step in panama yi really is sad to remember comrades who died together We had the invasion and some simpre tendre qe me in mind I am sobreiviente of invasion by then I was only 21 years and serving DEFENSE forces today to see the video that I'm sad to remember these events
cholo5ta 1 year ago
Mattel never made M16s or parts for M16s, it's a myth.
artweaker69 1 year ago
Watch the Panama Deception for any idiot who thinks this invasion was just. Makes me ashamed that the Bush family is part of my fucking crumbling nation. Bush, the former head of the CIA put Noriega on the payroll after he was taken off it for drug trafficking and he enabled noriega to continue to have military control while being protected by the US for any discovered drug smuggling. I hate to say it but terrorism has been purpotraited by none other than the USA time and time again.
Whiterhin018 1 year ago
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Actually that docudrama is a bit of a one-sided joke to those of us who served during the invasion. If they wanted it to be a factual documentary they would have interviewed the American and Panamanian soldiers, who did the fighting, not just the poor that were disenchanted with their government. When I was down there, all I remember is the unbridled cheering and appreciation. from Panamanian civilians.
PanVet100 1 year ago
WHY DON' YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE VICTIMS IN PANAMA?
srbinsiti 1 year ago
i didnt know these guys, im not navy, im army, but my highest respects to these great american heroes of special forces that gave their lives for america. and the same to all those who have or do give thier lives in combat for america and our freedoms, thank u all brothers! glad u kicked that panamanian ass! fuck yeh!
mikefan09 1 year ago
@SsgMercerTD hahahaha, oh wow, I'm so scared of the "resistance"
HSGuarari 1 year ago
.. My last name is Conners.
leowy1 1 year ago
Noriega was a piece of shit and needed to be rid of.
MontyPython134 1 year ago 13
@MontyPython134 Noreiga was installed by the US. He worked for the CIA.
jihadifanclub 1 year ago
@jihadifanclub thank you Finally someone with some brains here; PANAMA DECEPTION PART 1 watch it PEOPLE
Whiterhin018 1 year ago
@MontyPython134 I bet you can't guess who's payroll he was on before the invasion was ordered by Bush now can you.
Whiterhin018 1 year ago
@MontyPython134 A son of a bitch named Historian4ever fucking pissed me off by saying that we kicked Noriega's ass because we're imperialism and because we're trying to control drug trafficking.
1stMarineCapt 8 months ago
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Hooah Lightfighters & Manchus~!
utbusta 1 year ago
Hooah Lightfighters & Manchus~!
utbusta 1 year ago
There were some relatively dumb members of the Dignity Battalions, those who believed the propaganda and rhetoric of their "leaders" who would push them into the lines of US Special Forces or airborne infantry. Unfortunately for them, they became many of the apparently "civilian" casualties during Operation Just Cause.
agricola 1 year ago
@agricola I agree with you. I also happen to know that the Army wasn't counting PDF soldiers who weren't in uniform as PDF casualties. They were counted as civilians for some reason.
360Nomad 1 year ago
When the invasion began and the fighting started, most of the members of these "Dignity Battalions" were not stupid enough to think they could actually stand up to and defeat a modern US military force.
agricola 1 year ago
...the squads were created with help from a small group of Cuban advisers in Panama and modeled on similar militias formed by Fidel Castro shortly after the Cuban revolution." Cuba also helped by sending shipping containers full of AK-47's and ammo to arm these units.
agricola 1 year ago
Panama's "Dignity Battalions" It was a move that worked both sides against the middle. By creating and arming the "Dignity Battalions", Noriega made himself even more popular among the poorest Panamanians. By giving them little more than a t-shirt bearing the name of their particular paramilitary unit, a "rank" in that unit, and an assault rifle, he catered to their needs for self respect and recognition.
agricola 1 year ago
in the late 1980's as relations between Panama's military dictator Manuel Antonio Noriega and the United States were deteriorating, Noriega decided to use a kind of terror tactic - he went to Cuba and asked Fidel Castro to send him containers full of AK-47's and ammunition to arm Panama's poor. Noriega was convinced the United States would never invade, faced with the threat of thousands of peasants armed with fully automatic assault rifles.
agricola 1 year ago
I have a ?... Are there any soldiers, who have left comments, that were physically there? I have some questions for you guys if there are! (Preferably someone in the U.S. Navy... Im more familiar with that branch..) :)
MsMirandab 1 year ago
@MsMirandab I jumped in with the 82nd Airborne as an infantryman. I'll answer any questions you have if I have that knowledge.
flashavoc69 1 year ago
panama was a narco state ruled by druglords. had to be taken out
agricola 1 year ago
@agricola DUDE, your user name should be called AVICOLA,,,so air headed,flying high who's the marquette of all drugs?,certainlly not that small coutry. There were so many t- shirts given to almost everyone,bearing the name of dignity batallion but there were not DIGNITIES B; poor panamanians did not have any clothes to weare thanks to the embargo of the us so the us troops saw them as targets ;but yet they were civilians they did not have that many choises as far as what to wear.
harpia1p 1 year ago
It's sad to see the American troops that died, but what about all of the innocent people in Panama? Operation "Just Cause" wow, they invaded just because they wanted too. America is one of the biggest terrorist groups in the world...
hotspitta410 1 year ago
Deloise and Coats were 1/508th Red Devils, Cco, Kobbe, stationed out of Panama, not out of Bragg, just for you info... SFC Smith
MrTLS555 1 year ago
Hi, I was reading your comment about the Invasion of Panama. I know it is not easy but I am just trying to find someone: His name is Brent Brown, aprox. age 44 years old from 82nd Airborne Division, 508th Parachute Infantry. He was in Fort Davis during the invasion to Panama. I will appreciate any help.
Lizort1963 1 year ago
...stereotype) and I'm offended. I'm sure it was a horrible experience for you, but think of the thousands caught up in the drug trafficking, corrupt politics, riots and a war. FUCK YOU! Why the hell did you choose Eye of the Tiger as a song? ASSHOLE! At least you didn't pick born in the U.S.A.!
gyro231995 1 year ago 3
@gyro231995 Because Eye of the Tiger is a classic 80s song dude.
360Nomad 1 year ago
@360Nomad There are a lot of 80s classics. Eye of the tiger is one of them, but there are far better choices.
gyro231995 1 year ago
It is wrong to forget such a tragedy like Panama during the time of political and civil unrest in the '80's, but remembering it like it was some sort of Call of Duty "lets go shoot people because they're subhuman" way is disgusting. I'm American (not the NASCAR lets grab a beer and shoot cans from our porch...
gyro231995 1 year ago
Whats Just about Invating My Grandmothers MotherLand you fuck. American Has Oppressed My family in Panama.
MuslimNinjaAssassin 1 year ago
@MuslimNinjaAssassin i fucke noriega in his ass i fucked mohammed and allah in his ass too
XshaquandaX 1 year ago
@XshaquandaX - Your a sad person... I don't think your even From Panama.
MuslimNinjaAssassin 1 year ago
@XshaquandaX I doubt it.
gyro231995 1 year ago
so there is a video dedicated to the few americans killed but there is no video for the 3000+ those killed in my country? That's jut WRONG!
nodierl 1 year ago 2
Can someone explain to me in an unbiased description as to why the US invaded Panama?
walkertexasranger77 1 year ago
The U.S. should invade the People's Republic of China and call it Just Cause 2. But China is a big country with guns.
MoonMan651 1 year ago
Viva Dios y la Patria.
Felipao852 1 year ago
yah way to kill 3000 Panamanian civlians for american interests. Then people wonder why other countries don't give a fuck about our 9/11.
"The best way to stop terrorism is to stop engaging in it" - Noam Chomsky
viper8red 1 year ago
Wow time flies!!! Pfc. John M Price and I went through Airborne School and R.I.P(Ranger Indoctrination Program) together and on to 2nd Ranger bn together. Damn, war sucks!!!! Sua Sponte..
AIRBORNEKMCQUITERY 1 year ago
Noriega was an idiot. If he had just let the "Free Elections" he annouced alone Blue Spoon never wood have occured. Instead after Noriega's hand picked candidates lost 3:1 he declared the elections null and then had the winner beaten and under house arrest and Noriega PDF started shooting protestors in the streets. Jimmy Carter really screwed up by giving the Panamanians the canal which led to Noriegas mentality.
actonbath 1 year ago
All in all was a great relieve to get rid of Noriega
cabal0092009 1 year ago
Fall down the Empire, soon!!
USA fall down!!! Fuck!!!
cybertron74 1 year ago
@cybertron74 why don't you fall down ass pirate
Fukummm 1 year ago
@Fukummm Fuck your ass!!
Qué eres Yankee marica o un latino resentido viviendo en el Norte???
cybertron74 1 year ago
USA army destroy buildings, and killed kids just to arrest noriega of drugs. Fuck off the media is bullshit. Panama was no danger to the USA. Noriega was no drug dealer. That's what Fox news would say about Noriega is a druglord bullshit the media is bull shit. Is lies because that was an attack to Panama which meant war. USA invaded Panama fuck off USA.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 the US does not target children, we leave that to pieces of shit car bombers, troops are only trained to shoot people that are a threat, so take your propaganda elsewhere
bigreddawg91 1 year ago
@bigreddawg91 yea, usa never targets children thats why you only see the bloody faces, and kids with no legs when they get bombed by the usa air force planes in Afghanistan.
xSeriox4 1 year ago
@xSeriox4 oh really? now i thought that was because INSURGENTS BOMB MARKETS, SCHOOLS, BUSES, of their own people. you see we wouldn't be building schools for them, providing food and water, if we wanted to destroy them. You're really an idiot, we would just nuke the place if we wanted them dead. dipshit
bigreddawg91 1 year ago
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@swflprof: I see they even train you to have a sense of humor, what a perfectionist army of yours! I wonder if they train you folks in human rights, foreign cultures, history and demographics... Hmm I'm guessing not, since shooting your Mattel M16's (thanks for clarifying such an important fact btw, I feel much wiser now) is probably much more appealing yo you, isn't it now Rambo?
HSGuarari 1 year ago
Actually they did train me not to make assumptions such as you have by thinking you know anything about me. In reality I am Hispanic, from a place that
swflprof 1 year ago
@HSGuarari
actually they need permission to fire
SaintsSpecOps 1 year ago
All these pathetic, coward little plastic soldiers with their Nintendo weapons and their rock music make me sick, MURDERERS! Ignorance at its most!
John Conners, Donald McFaul, Isaac Rodríguez (betrayer of his own people btw), Chris Tilghman and Garreth Isaak were fucking cowards, just like the rest of U.S soldiers. The only difference is THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!
HSGuarari 1 year ago
Actually our M16s said Mattel not Nintendo
swflprof 1 year ago
@swflprof Hey we loved our A2's.
DisposableWorker1 1 year ago
@HSGuarari You sir are a piece of shit and if you like being able to post garbage like this then Thank a solider...your welcome by the way
TrustedAC 1 year ago
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PanVet100 1 year ago
@HSGuarari
It's sure easy to call killed-in-action soldiers cowards when they're no longer alive to make you eat your hateful words. Anonymity on your computer in a third-world country that's protected by the United States seems to make you very brave, but alas only with the dead heroes you denounce. That's truly pathetic mi amigo.
PanVet100 1 year ago
i wear a KIA bracelet honoring Ranger SSG Larry Barnard (3/75 INF) to this day. i was with the 7th ID(L) & Larry was a friend of a friend.
geetarbube 2 years ago
pinche idiota. este invasion fue illegal pero tu no tiene alguna derecha hacer insultos a americanos. voy a chingar a tu madre.
kevinjim33 2 years ago
this was a war crime, pure and simple. you have to be really brainwashed to try to justify this highly illegal invasion. the UN voted by 70-20 that this was an "egregious violation of international law" and harshly condemned it. Watch the documentary "The Panama Deception" its on youtube and won the academy award for best documentary. it is the TRUTH about what Bush Sr., Cheney, and Reagan lied about. Noriega was a CIA agent for a long time, Bush gave him a raise and hired him
kevinjim33 2 years ago
Not based directly on this situation, but as a rule I ignore anything that starts with UN.
swflprof 2 years ago
@swflprof But I bet you believe the lies and propaganda from Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney.... You need to not look at everything from a jingoistic pro-US lens. You need to be objective. This invasion was illegal by any interpretation of international law.
kevinjim33 2 years ago
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Wow... really? I wonder why this doesn't surprise me... Another authoritarian little plastic soldier who masturbates to his AK-47. You are 53 years old and yet you haven't learned shit! Well, we can't really expect you to learn anything, you are just another brainwashed idiot. MURDERER!
HSGuarari 1 year ago
Sorry to disappoint you but I remember missing the AK 47 masturbation class. I can check with the other MARINES who attended Parris Island but pretty sure they missed it too.
swflprof 1 year ago
@swflprof I was here, t]y for the retort, thank you.
thecleaner99100 1 year ago
@swflprof you are a sick ass bastard for even putting this video up. Its alright karma has its ways. Your probably already experiencin