What Conservatives really want is just a larger version of Iran with crosses instead of crescents.
Its really about controlling women, making sure their not straying. They don't want to just police pregnancy they want to police when and where women have sex and who they fuck. That way 35 year old conservative virgins who have live in the same neck of the woods for their entire life wont get offended, cant have that now can we.
Clearly I underestimated your ability to evade a simple question. It's clear that you still haven't bothered watching Girlwriteswhat's video on LPS. I do not propose that a man can force a woman to have an abortion. That would be ridiculous. But if the woman CHOOSES to keep a child that the father decides he is not ready for WHY can't the woman own her choice to keep the baby and finance it herself? Men have no autonomy in this situation like women do. Feminists like yourself defend women's..
... right of choice but what about men? Equality? If a puppy shows up at a door and the woman wants it but the man says he doesn't is the man legally forced to pay for the sheltering, food and care for the dog? You can evade this again but with society waking up to feminists' idea of "equality" (see special rights) this is bound to be an issue sooner or later. Why aren't women strong enough to own their decisions to keep a baby and support it themselves?
@TMac473 Your logic is spot on, TMac. I'm amazed to see the control freaks just come right out and say, "If you're not ready for the responsibility of sex (or a failure of birth control), then just don't have sex."
"Keep it in your pants" must apply to both sexes if fairness and equality is desired.
As you say, this is about autonomy and the proper link between choice and consequences, but our opponents would have us crawling on our knees like a beast or a slave to another person's will.
@Torgo1969 Exactly. This is Feminism's idea of "equality" in which it is a la carte. "We want parity in upper management and CEO positions" (but let's not talk about parity in criminal sentencing or homelessness or divorce & family law decisions or workplace deaths etc.etc. Equality has a totally different meaning when your lens is seen through millions of years of supposed victimhood and vulnerability.
PP DOES receive federal money for abortions! They dance around the Hyde Amendment. Let's say you have $50 to pay your phone bill. Your mother gives you $50 but says you can't use it to buy beer. So you use her 50 to pay your phone bill, and your 50 is now available to buy the beer with. Your mother still bought you the beer, right? On a personal note, I went to PP young, single, pregnant, and poor. They offered NO free/reduced prenatal care. But they were sure willing to give me an abortion.
Sex is good, birth control is good and abortion is a choice a woman must be able to make. Virgins and old white males cannot be allowed to tell the rest of us how to live. Christians should go back to fighing each other, like they did in europe, before the europeans found them out and simply ignored them. I used to love some good old fashioned catholic vs protestant violence..........
Birth Control is still murder. So even if planned parenthood is only helping to murder 54 million lives in 39 years through abortion, they're still helping to kill babies in different ways such as birth control, condoms, etc. If you can't live with the responsibility that sex brings (a human life) then you shouldn't be having sex at all. Just sayin :p
who gives a shit? planned parenthood is NOTHING but a franchise of abortion clinics. PC docs take medicaid. most of "health services" PP provides is KILLING BABIES.
Wait, why do people who disagree with abortion have to fund abortion clinics? I mean, I know you're an enlightened feminist and all and know how everyone's money should be spent but...
Okay, let me break this down for you:
Let's say a homeless man periodically robs a candy store for lollies to give to some kiddies at the park. Eventually a policeman comes by and arrests the vagrant. Does that mean the police officer hates those children?
@IdeologueReview You appear not to have actually listened to the video. "These provisions to pull the funds from PP came from anti-abortion lawmakers:
folks who don't want to give money to an organization that provides abortions.
Fine. I understand this, but let's be clear.
NONE of that money is used to fund abortion services.
You know how I know that?
Because for the past 35 years, the Hyde Amendment has prohibited federal funds from being used to provide abortions!"
you can get birth control anywhere ! -.- the closest planned parenthood to me is long beach ! a 45 min from that ! i think id rather go to rite aid ! you guys make it seem like planned parent hood is the only place we can get all these services ! for low cost or free well i want to let you know that its not (:
sorry one last thing there are 800 health care insures out there ! planned parenthood tries to make it seem like without them many women wont get health care which isnt true because "liveaction" did an undercover spoof & plannedparent hood told them that there were other places where they could get the same thing!
& no birth control isnt a form of abortion ! the egg isnt a human fetus (human being yet) the word fetus comes from the word young one or child ! i forget which language my appologies !
@Lady0Pamela do you really want to know why i care? i care because i feel like all you pro abortion people are being brain washed by planned parenthood and other abortion cliniques! YES they lie to you check out the undercover vids on youtube ! if your gonna have a STRONG opinion on something then you should know a hella lot about the subject!! all i know is that that fetus is a human life ! a fetus is a being & it is a human fetus which makes it a life & i dont want people to be killing there
1:51 less than 3% of the U.S. government's funding is also spent on education. In a way, this is little, and a lot. 3% can be a large number if you think about it...
She's a fucking filth and worm walking the face of this earth. You fucking feminist shitbag I hope your whole entire movement gets fucked in the ass 200 times for each ruined life of a man it has affected.
@lvsoad22 LOL OMG YOU'RE MAD! You're so mad internet tough guy, you don't even know how to handle it, and over a You Tube comment!!! LOL!! You just made my day, Scrub. LOLOLOLOL. Thanks for the response, no really LMFAO!!
How about BIRTHRITE, its better than Planned Parenthood. Truthfully though, its our VALUES that are corrupt, if we are in the realm of trying to minimize this stuff instead of promoting positivee values with a bull crap idea of preventive care. (another way of saying, if your going to do the wrong thing, do it with this and you'll be ok)
@truthegreat have you considered the economical repercussions of a generation of unwanted babies? Twenty years after abortion was made legal in the US crime rates in large cities dropped exponentially. Maybe because there were less young adults that would've been born to 16yr old parents living in poverty. Some people just aren't ready for children.
@AverynNorth Wow this is so appalling. We now live in a society so corrupt, that we no longer want to suffer the consequences of our mistakes. Secondly I challenge your assertion that crime has dropped, I would argue the opposite, plus there are many complexities to consider before you make that claim. We need to solve the ROOT problem, corruption is like weeds, if you dont solve the root issue, then you are just making it worst with unintended consequences.
now in WISCONSIN. Gov. Walker has decided to cut screenings for cervical and breast cancer too. God forbid any funding goes to Planned Parenthood because it also has abortion as an option. Scott Walker just doesnt care about anyone who uses PP for ANY REASON. Its horrible
When are feminists going to pursue the rights of women to take up the responsibility of raising a child that they choose to have? The rights to be accountable and responsible for paying and supporting their own children without oppressive laws that force a woman to have the man pay child support even when the "father" never even wanted a child? Search for Girlwriteswhat LPS 1, 2, 3 & 4. C'mon women keep fighting this oppression.
@cherubicnerd right. HE made HER pregnant. This is why women are treated as children. Women hold no accountability for getting themselves pregnant. Only the man is to be held responsible for his actions. Clearly you didn't watch Girlwriteswhat LPS or have any idea what legal parental surrender is. You are just lost in the blaming of men and victimhood of women. When will women own their actions good and bad? oh yeah right- forgot we're talking about women here.
@TMac473 it's very simple. it takes a woman and a man to create life. if people don't want to deal with pregnancy then wear condoms or don't have sex at all. at least not the usual way of having sex, if you're hetero. my statement excludes women and girls who have been raped.
@cherubicnerd You still don't get it. Pay attention pls: When an accidental pregnancy occurs, a woman has 3 options- abort, up for adoption or mother. Men have 2; pay up or jail. So, If we are "equal" (hahahahahaha) then how is this fair? Why are only women given this choice? Why do we treat women like children in society? Because they demand it. If women can elect to walk away, why can't men?
@TMac473 actually,3:father. and,if a man doesn't want to take responsibility for a child then he should wear a condom or don't have hetero sex. pregnancy is never accidental. both people go in knowing that the condom or birth control pill is not 100% effective in preventing pregnancy. men shouldn't be able to walk away from taking care of the children they helped create. abortion isn't an easy choice,btw.
@cherubicnerd Despite your efforts to derail I'll make my point again. AFTER the fact, the man has only 2 choices. Stop trying to turn this into an evil man argument. If women want equality and the choice to walk away from a pregnancy then why can't men? Currently women CAN walk away from taking care of the children they create. Pls don't put words in my mouth; I never said abortion would be an easy choice.
@TMac473 no,he has three. by "walk away",you mean have an abortion or put the child up for adoption,right? that isn't "walking away". neither choice is easy and it usually ends up being put on the woman to either take care of her child by herself,put the child in the system or abort it. the man can either take care of the child himself,put the child up for adoption or WALK AWAY. you do know that men have walked away from their children and haven't suffered the consequences,right?
On the topic of choice we should choose to have guns. Anyone who dosen't want us to have them will have to take them off our hands after we are dead of course.
Funny how women preach about a women has a right to choose but if she's a Catholic who dosen't like planned parrenthood sorry you gotta support it through taxes you anti choice silly girl.
Planned Parenthood provides me my birth control for free. So they help me, a lot. For the most part helping me avoid an un wanted pregnancy that I otherwise would abort. Yes. I'm sorry, but I would. A fetus before the third trimester isn't developed enough to "not want to be 'killed' " (Notice my quotations around "killed") and before you say "you shouldn't have had sex"a lot of people DO take precautions, but accidents happen. Unless you're a nun you can't expect people to never have sex.
@Lady0Pamela to you pro choice or pro abortion people thats all it is right? someone elses business? someone elses body? so why do all you nosy pro life people give a shit? ima tell you why! because i dont think that its right that people can go to cliniques & kill babies. does that baby want to be killed? no! so i dont think its right that the mother has the right to dispose of THEIR body (the babies body) !!!
@StPatrickEdu Hey let's not forget to punish women for a spontaneous abortion. As was proposed, if a woman miscarries we should make sure she didn't cause it right? Punish her if we can find her at fault. Down with women any means necessary right.
@theserbok No this isn't equality to feminist. As a feminist I believe that a couple should make decisions together. I believe a man should have a right early enough to sign away his parental rights and opt out of fininacial responsibilty, the time frame though has to be early enough that if without his assistance she can opt to abort. However if the man run and hides no he has no say.
@theserbok When a woman pays child support there is no guarantee the man spent it on the child. Maybe men should get to know there women before having kids with them. As for the Selective Service System all for it especially if you let women choose to be on the front lines. My Army buddy wanted to do that but the closest they let her is disarming land mines.
@feathernote So true the more babies born the more money the gov gets. Today adults make decisions on the number of kids they can afford to have as to not be a burden a society, however kids especially kids of religious families can breed like jack rabbits and the parents won't let their kids know all their choices. So sad. This ppl don't want to pay for a one time abortion, but 18 years of life, while complaining they have to pay for it.
@esaflygiirl123 Why do you care so much? Why do you give 2 shits about a strange woman you don't know having an abortion of a fetus/baby you don't want and have no desire to help grow to be an adult? Nah, you just want to be up in other ppl's buisness so you can judge them right?
Girl you are soooooooooooo blindeddo you also believe that at one time YOU were just a fetus .... Planned parent hood lies to the moms, there is a books from former planned parent Hoosier women that say they regret telling all the lies they did
@esaflygiirl123 How are they lying? You walk in the door, you go to a simple counseling meeting asking how long have you been thinking about your decision, have you been coerced, is this what you want, and if everything is on the up and up you are asked what kinda anestesia you want. Where are the lies??? You people keep saying there are these lies, like women are so stupid they don't do their own research and take time to consider all choices?
Ok, I think I;m having a moment of genius here: OR you can say....i don't know...NOT HAVE SEX??? It's called abstinence and guess what...not only a FLAWLESS plan for not gettign pregnant or getting STD's but it does not force taxpayers to subsidize your "promiscuous" lifestyle....oh wait there is more! and it is FREE to every woman of every age in the country!
@jayda5956 OMG yeah women can get pregnant so they should be abstinent. You shouldn't have sex with your boyfriend, or husband unless you are okay with conceiving, which means if you only want one kid you are very limited to the amount of times you will be able to have sex, because once you get pregnant that's it, one kid. So after you stop having sex with your husband you better hope he doesn't find another woman, or hey you could always become a polygamist. Abstinence doesn't work.
@kermy you didn't respond to my comments about mandatory chastity belts for men that would eliminate abortions.
guess there's no need for men to be responsible in the forced-birthers' minds
there always the women blame game: women should keep their legs together.
sperm like you & other men's rights groups always need a person to to blame for men's inadequencies; feminism which started in the first place to gain rights.
@canadianskye1964 you are nuts. i just now got your message on my page. just so you know, the only example you used, the 'rule of thumb' has been proven false countless times. it was never a measurement for tools to beat ones wife. next you will be quoting Nancy K.D. Lemon and her books where she ascribes some of the earliest proof of misogyny and patriarchy to ROMULUS OF ROME, you know, the fictional character LMAO. you are a brainwashed woman. goodbye
@KemetDaFrog In South Carolina in the books it is perfectly legal to beat your wife on the court house steps on Sundays. Yes these were laws we had and they are everywhere. In Vermont, for a woman to wear false teeth she first must get written permission from her husband. Stupid laws everywhere. Good bye
@kermy marriage was traditionally set up for the benefit of men & the patriarchals system. women & children were property + she worked equally hard as the men being a housewife & "women" of house re care of the yeard, animals, house, etc while the man worked. of course she took care of her husbands' needs before her own or her children
@kermy pro-choice women are women who may not ever have an abortion but support the choice. they also get have loving marriages & children & well-rounded lives. they are active in more organizations than ones that concern abortion-ones that truly benefit their community & society.
feminism is not the evil that forced birther make it out to be.
i bet you are religious as that is the last bastion of patriarchal & so you can maintain power as a "man"
@kermy whatever. you are wrong. i'm sure everyone is glad to be rid of you.
the church is one example of the failure of patriarchy: a priest can commit statutory rape & neither the pope nor the church as the courage to do anything about it. (male or female.
pro-choice women stand for choice but we are also nurturing mothers, wives, daughters, aunts, grandmothers.
we are more wiling to help women in all sorts of cases not just in the case of unwanted pregnancy or abortion.
the only time abortion should be legal is if the woman was raped. Raped is FORCED sex, however if women have voluntary sex and end up pregnant than that is HER AND HIS responsibility, the child doesn't deserve to be punished for that. Too many bitches are going through with this infanticide and thinking they are controlling their own body, what women fail to realize is that abortion is NOT about control over your body, it's about control over the life of an unborn child.
@THEATRYCAL Well thank you for chiming in but your point was not needed. It's never his responsibility unless he wants to take it, he can run and a woman can be left on her own completely blinded by the fact dude was a douchebag. Too many assholes are knocking up women and leaving them to make difficult decisions whle the asshole goes to knock up another. What men don't realize is it is none of their business, it is legal to have abortions, and we will fight you to the death.
@Lady0Pame actually the woman can use the law to force him to pay for the child weather he wanted the child or not. You also forget that women have all reproductive rights and over 20 methods of birth control, so honestly if she gets pregnant it's mostly her fault considering all the options the law and society gives her. If he wants the child the woman can abort it without his opinion on it at all. And if he DOESN'T want the kid she'll just force child support on him. Her body her choice right.
@THEATRYCAL If she can find him, if he has a job that doesn't pay him under the counter, etc. Wow and the fact that BC isn't 100% effective? The law gives her the option to have an abortion. Hey I am all for the right of the man to request to keep the baby and upon birth she can hand it over if she chooses, but if he is scum I can't blame her for not seeing that as a good option. Also I am all for men opting out of fatherhood if he doesn't want it but that means all of fatherhood and forever.
@THEATRYCAL Do you know the statistics of men who pay for abortions when they want to, and when they don't, versus women who pay for their own abortions?
@Lady0Pamela NOBODY has to pay for abortions. It's all government funded. That's the beauty of the birth control industry, it puts almost NO pressure or sacrifice on females. Yep only in the misandric US of A xD.
@THEATRYCAL Oh so first it's his wallet and now it's the US people's wallet, wanna make up your mind here? Anyways, I know several women who paid for their own services, never met one that the government paid for theirs. It is possible that they pay for abortions for low income women, but then again if you are bitching about the money it cost for the abortion, how much do you bitch about paying the cost for 18 years?
@L a woman paying for her own services? that's extremely rare to find, considering MOST would have someone else do it for them, if you found some that pay for it themselves you hit the lucky jackpot xD but as for paying for the 18 years remember that many women who had multiple sex partners deceive men into thinking it's their child and have them pay for a kid that's not theirs. But if they are the true father AND the woman didn't poke a hole in the condom purposely then yes he should pay.
@THEATRYCAL Hey your bad taste in women is no ones fault but your own, or whoever the idiot is who doesn't get a paternity test. LOL Poke a hole in the condom, yeah tons of women are out there doing that, women really want to be connected to losers for the rest of their lives, it's never cause the man bought cheap condoms and doesn't know how to use them. Hey here is a tip, know the woman your about to sleep with. PS EDD pills are paid for by gov, not birth control, whose being favored?
@MensRightsVideos precisely, that's why abortion is so evil. It literally takes up as if it's ONLY the woman's child and that everyone else BUT the mother should pay for it, it's sickening!. I would give up on arguing with feminists if i were you it's a waste of energy, your time would be better spent talking to a dead pigeon xD
@THEATRYCAL One more question since you went from rape should be the only reason to have abortion to a guy pays for if he wants to or not to the people pay for it via the government. So if rape was the only time a woman in your opinion should have an abortion, who should pay for that?
@Lady0Pamela whoever did that to her should pay by doing jail time. And the government will take care of all her problems including if she wants an abortion or not, as i said the government will always favor women and cater to their every need and desire :)
@alaskafido women have been blamed for the sins/evils of the world since Eve. now women are being blamed for "men's suffering" conveniently because of feminism. it seems men have a (subconscious) mistrust/hatred of women & need to control us. rememember the movie 'fatal attraction?" wonderful men/husbands were yelling 'kill the bitch' & cheered when she did. frightened wives shrank in their seats. alex had been impregnated by the husband, who didn't want his world changed, watch the movie
and for the record you through the inception of your birth certificate you are chattel property of the state, please see Maritime Salvage Law/Universal Commercial Code/The Law of the High Seas and the Freeman (on the land) Perspective.
@KemetDaFrog maybe in england, my friend. but that still doesn't give the state or forced birthers to control a person's body.
perhaps, the state, (since men would be chattels as well) men should be forced to wear chastity belts since men can't keep their legs together or maybe men should be clipped. abortion problem solved .
your comments on this channel to everyone have been ridiculous. go back inside your cave & do the world a favour-don't reproduce
i think you are a little confused, marriage serves as a clearly misandric institution and I am not advocating marriage whatsoever. i really must take issue with the posts you have made here which talks of a 'patriarchy which does not benefit men'. your assumption that this could even be true given the definition of a patriarchy is probably representative of your myopia towards direct male suffering, which quite frankly dwarfs female suffering.
@KemetDaFrog marriage is a patriarchal to benefit men. before feminism, women couldn't vote, own property or have money of their own, no birth control, a man could legally beat a women, a man could "legally" rape his wife-force her to have sex when she didn't want to & receive a beating at the same time.
she was a chattel. a husband could walk away from his wife & childtren anytime if he "tired" of the responsibility.
women had no legal rights or protective measures in this case.,
marriage is an institution which has absolutely no benefits for men whatsoever. 75% of divorces are initiated by women and 2/3rds of those are on a no fault basis. women win 85% of child custody cases and are supported by the courts in claiming the primary assets (house, car, savings) even when they have made no tangible contribution to the accumulation of these assets. i am from the UK so i will not even touch upon the hate crime known as alimony,
@KemetDaFrog perhaps the reason women are initiating divorce is that they aren't willing to put up with the crap of their husbands. perhaps you want to return to the world where a man could leave his wife/kids. or when women received unfair settlements after divorse--paying off 50% of debt even if they weren't responsible, losing the house to their ex, no compensation for contribution they gave to the marriage & family (nursemaid, cook, laundry maid, seamstress, etc)
@KemetDaFrog The hate crime known as alimony that is laughable. You take a wife, knock her up a couple of times, take her out of the employment field to have her raise the children, keep the house, and take care of your house, all of which you agreed to or maybe even prefferred, then you wish to leave her broke and with no recent work experience, while leaving her to raise your children, oh and you would like her to do it homeless without a car? Sorry only worked up to the early 1900's.
also you seem to have adopted the standardized feminist mindset that the world did not properly exist before MS. Magazine (which was funded by the CIA btw). Men were punished for the crimes of their wives and please beware that the 'rule of thumb' feminists like to quote has been debunked many many times. it is also known Stret & Straus 1987 and Harvard 2007, that women physically assault their husbands more frequently than the other way around.
also you seem to have adopted the standardized feminist mindset that the world did not properly exist before MS. Magazine (which was funded by the CIA btw). Men were punished for the crimes of their wives and please beware that the 'rule of thumb' feminists like to quote has been debunked many many times. it is also known Stret & Straus 1987 and Harvard 2007, that women physically assault their husbands more frequently than the other way around.
@KemetDaFrog a men's rights advocate, i believe, you may rewrite history as you want to everyone statement you made is,
FALSE!
not only that you are a conspiracy nut case. i wouldn't be surprised if took part of the violence that erupted in england monhs ago; perhaps the state should lock you up.
@canadianskye1964 no maritime salvage law is not a conspiracy, some basic education in legalese will allow you to understand the process whereby the state strips you of a number of inalienable common-law freedoms merely because the population at large are unaware they have legally understood 'the state' to begin with.
the number of outrageous assertions you made prove you to be rather too insecure for me to continue this conversation. good luck to you on your confused and irrational journey
@theserbok I'm a feminist and I don't believe its right that women always win child custody cases. This is an instance in which the patriarchy actually leans /towards/ women, because women are still assumed to be primary caregivers. Just because it favors women doesn't mean feminists agree its right. Patriarchy is wrong, no matter who it helps.
@Name2BDecidededLater Agree to that, still I have to say I know a few situations that the men did get the custody and several situations where they didn't want even the option of spending time with their kids after divorce. It's really sad.
Thanks for making and posting this great video! (And for reminding people that Planned Parenthood is not just a place that provides abortion services.)
and EMPRESSJUDGE13 if you really believe that being unwanted is as bad as you say it is surely men who get a woman pregnant should have the right to a termination if he seeks one? if daddy doesn't want a child thats just as 'demeaning' so the same should apply right? of course not, silly me! its all about a womans right to do whatever she wants at any given time regardless of how abstract her behavior is from reality and anything else is patriarchy-inspired mysogynist oppression! simple as that!
It's interesting that whenever Planned Parenthood is brought up for discussion (like here in the comments) it IMMEDIATELY becomes a fight over abortion. Not the other services that make up the overwhelming majority of what PP does: Pap smears, disease testing, birth control. The truth is: No woman/female-bodied individual wants to HAVE to terminate a pregnancy or HAVE to make that choice; hence why birth control is so vital. Take away PP, & what are u left with? MORE (ILLEGAL/UNSAFE) ABORTIONS.
@EJ i came here because i have seen 19% and she tends to present very one-sided arguments, i merely wanted to see what else she was putting out into our collective youtube-consciousness. i saw your conversation and remarked about your poor debating skills. thank you for your 'response'. it is interesting that you chose to engage extensively with someone about the topic of abortion, then smeared those who do just that on PP comments sections. does that not make you a little ridiculous at all? no?
@KDF Perhaps I'm being a bit dense here, but I must ask: Which concerns you more, winning this argument or getting to the bottom of this issue? Take pot shots at my "debating skills" all you like: I noticed you sidestepped the point I made directly to you in the hopes of having a coherent discussion, namely that taking away PP is not going to do much to stop abortions, it's just going to proliferate back-alley abortions. What do you hope to accomplish here? What do you want me to see? Tell me.
last post. you are all over the place, telling us not to understand this issue strictly in relation to abortion, then in your last two posts the crux of your argument is summarized in terms of abortion itself. wow. you also sidestepped the original question i put to you about a fathers right to abort and instead assert that no woman wants to make that choice... and if you expect we will get to the bottom of this on this youtube comments section, god help you.
when the issue is the creation and raising of children, the status quo, ie women having total control over reproductive rights and being assumed as preferred sole custodians in divorce, does not benefit either men or, more importantly, children, who are the most vulnerable group in any society. i believe society needs to adopt a more equilateral understanding, because, as feminists point out when it suits them to do so, a fathers influence is also essential for children
@KemetDaFrog Right, I forgot if a father isn't married to the mother, the child doesn't have a father. /sarcasm/ We DO agree on one point: I'm don't think that women are better caregivers nor do they deserve to win the majority of custody cases. This is where the patriarchy actually aids women and I don't support it there either. But you forget, men have just as much right to abort their pregnancies as women do. If it were needed, though, it would be bad on a lot of other levels
the conversation beneath mine is a fine example of feminist reasoning. lose the debate... then bring in an emotional story all of which relates to some personal experience which cultured your world view. illogical and schizophrenic rationale exposed. and if you are wondering why MRAs keep popping up on the forums you haven't blocked us from with so much vigour it is simple;
nobody could objectively assess relevant empirical data and subscribe to feminism. you have been brainwashed.
@theserbok What? You're not even making any sense now. What does any of this have to do with Planned Parenthood? I love how when you're cornered, you rant on about something else and then claim that I don't understand your point. It's too late to stop you from making a fool of yourself on here, but you're only going to embarass yourself further if you keep pretending you actually understand feminism.
@theserbok I understand your point, I just think you're full of crap. Men absolutely have reproductive rights. They have the right to agree to or refuse sex. When you can get pregnant, then you'll be free to decide whether to keep or terminate YOUR pregnancy. So it seems to me that either you are advocating that you get to decide what happens to someone else's body, or you're whining about the "unfairness" of child support. Either one makes you despicable. How do you live with yourself?
@theserbok Then I suppose you are busily fighting the belief that women should be the ones to look after the children at all time, and helping to remove the stigma of the working parent not being male, right? Yeah, I didn't think so. Mothers are the primary caregivers, so they get custody more often than not. There is no guarantee that the mother isn't going to spend it on the child. There is no guarantee that a father will spend it on his child either.
@Empress Abortion is not a "reproductive" right. It's DE-productive. It's about ending life. Sperm and the egg may be animated but they do not GROW. And every high school biology textbook describes Life as that which grows and reproduces.
Abortion-happy feminists have lowered the bar on valuing human life. If left alone, that "fetus" (your enemy) would grow and leave your body.
Where is the baby's "choice" in all this? Abortion steals a baby's choice away in the selfish name of "inconvenience".
@MensRightsVideos Don't you think it is a little hard to ask the fetus, and if you wait till it is born and it says I wish you had never had me, I hate this life, I hate this world, too bad too late, your here, make the best of it.
@EmpressJudge13 We need to encourage and demand that men be responsible fathers. Feminism has infected their minds with excuses that they can just divorce, pressure a girl into abortion, or walk away and leave her a single mother. This is WRONG. This is EVIL.
Feminism has demeaned fatherhood and pregnancy, treating them like enemies to a woman's selfish vanity. They are really the best complements to a woman's life, without which she will discover at 40 that her life is shallow and empty.
@MensRightsVideos "Feminism has demeaned fatherhood and pregnancy, treating them like enemies to a woman's selfish vanity. They are really the best complements to a woman's life, without which she will discover at 40 that her life is shallow and empty."
Please give my apologies to infertile women. Or lesbians. Or asexuals. Or anyone without children or the ability to get married. I hadn't realized that they had such empty existences. How unkind of me.
@MensRightsVideos Yes women being strong and independent made men little bitches, I should've known eventually we would be blamed for the men who don't give a crap. OH has the poor little man been demeaned and emotionally neutered. Yes without a man we are just nothing, thanks for pointing that out.
@MensRightsVideos Yeah and yet our male run government hasn't made it so infertility is covered by insurance and their are no programs to help pay for IVF which cost thousands. As well as making adoption damn near immpossible unless you are very well off.
@EmpressJudge13 The feminist argument that "It's my body" is bullshit. How many women abort their kidney or their lung? A woman is not born with a fetus. It needs input from a man's body and "outside" DNA. If left alone to survive, that "fetus" would grow and leave her body. It's not a permanent part of her body. And the proof that a fetus is Life is when a man kills a pregnant woman = he is charged with DOUBLE homicide (the woman and the baby).
@MensRightsVideos This may seem callous, but kidneys or lungs are essential to one's body. A fetus isn't. Carrying a pregnancy to term/raising the a child should be a freely chosen decision, not the result of gov't enforcement. Imagine being viewed, not as a human being, but a walking incubator: passive/useless without seminal input. Also: the double homicide clause DOES need to be changed, IMO; if the child is struck down in the murdered woman's arms, I'd buy it. But as a fetus? Not so much.
@EmpressJudge13 It's beyond callous: it's demeaning to other people's lives. That "essential" statement you made is typical feminist thinking that defines other people's lives in terms of a woman's selfish "convenience".
I would argue that the baby would consider its own body as "essential" to its own survival. Too bad feminists see a "fetus" as disposable garbage instead of a human being.
@MensRightsVideos Know what else is demeaning to other people's lives? Not being wanted. Knowing that your existence is the product of rape/government interference. That's another aspect of choice in a "pro-choice" ideology. I was an unwanted child. I didn't know for sure until I was old enough to be told, but I picked up on it. I was eventually given to people who did want me, but had I not been, I doubt we'd be speaking now. I'd much rather have been "disposable garbage" in the womb than out.
Thanks to Planned Parenthood, my boyfriend, who is uninsured, was able to be tested and treated for chlamydia at no charge when literally NO OTHER MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT would help him. Planned Parenthood is an ESSENTIAL organization and to destroy it would be an atrocity.
@MensRightsVideos Wow extremely cave man of you. A girl who has an intimate relationship with her boyfriend is none of your business. I really hope you don't stick anyone, we don't need you reproducing. You might want to get into some therapy.
@MensRightsVideos You don't know her boyfriend do you? She is simply explaining the benefits planned parenthood offers outside of abortion. Prolifers want to shut down PP altogether not just stop them from doing abortions. In case you didn't know though, everytime you end a relationship with one lover and before you take another especially you should be tested.
GIRL they dont care about womens bodies rights or poor people they care about their bible "facts" its a sad realization i know right. its as if jesus is coming down providing childcare.....hes not!
Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger who was an outspoken propoent of eugenics. She wanted the organization so thrive as way to curtail the growth of lower classes. In other words Planned Parenthood was formed as way to stop poor people from reproducing. I can tell from how she talks she doesn't know this and that she's a feminist but of course feminism and not knowing often march in lockstep.
@deepfriedtnecks Wow you have read all the prolifin literature ain' ya. Margaret Sanger was not outspoken on eugenics. You know so little about her that you have the nerve to slander her name. She saw things you and I couldn't imagine and she wanted women to have better options. Please don't take about what you don't know.
@Lady0Pamela It took you 3 wks to write you reply...moving on. Margaret Sanger did support eugenics, she felt that mentally retarded ppl and other "lesser" people should be forcefully sterilized, this is very well-known but downplayed aspect of her life. She was also a racist and nativist(if you know what this means)
@deepfriedtnecks Wow your a bright lightbulb aren't you? It didn't take three weeks for me to write my reply I just saw you slanderous comment today. I have done my own research, unlike you clearly. All you are stating about her is lies and things ppl have taken out of context to make her look bad. However, I will offer you the samething I offer them, where is your proof, citations, quotes,etc. Prove it or admit you are full of heresay bs.
@Lady0Pamela Again with the ad hominems. Here you go, google it to find the essay, A Plan for Peace, published in 1932 by Margaret Sanger, mainly about forced sterilization of mentally challenged. Not that it will change your opinion you'll probably saying something like I wrote it to make her look bad lol
@deepfriedtnecks Her whole plan for peace if you read it states if a person or group so chooses, not force it upon them like 17 states in the USA were already doing. She wanted to help with controlling the population and immigration as to the ppl would not become a burden on society and government funding. Yes it's out there and yes I don't agree, but no where does she say she believed ppl should be forced. Twisted but not forced.
What Conservatives really want is just a larger version of Iran with crosses instead of crescents.
Its really about controlling women, making sure their not straying. They don't want to just police pregnancy they want to police when and where women have sex and who they fuck. That way 35 year old conservative virgins who have live in the same neck of the woods for their entire life wont get offended, cant have that now can we.
Faelsun 1 week ago
You're a brainwashed moron.
ram0166 1 week ago
Clearly I underestimated your ability to evade a simple question. It's clear that you still haven't bothered watching Girlwriteswhat's video on LPS. I do not propose that a man can force a woman to have an abortion. That would be ridiculous. But if the woman CHOOSES to keep a child that the father decides he is not ready for WHY can't the woman own her choice to keep the baby and finance it herself? Men have no autonomy in this situation like women do. Feminists like yourself defend women's..
TMac473 1 week ago
... right of choice but what about men? Equality? If a puppy shows up at a door and the woman wants it but the man says he doesn't is the man legally forced to pay for the sheltering, food and care for the dog? You can evade this again but with society waking up to feminists' idea of "equality" (see special rights) this is bound to be an issue sooner or later. Why aren't women strong enough to own their decisions to keep a baby and support it themselves?
TMac473 1 week ago
@TMac473 Your logic is spot on, TMac. I'm amazed to see the control freaks just come right out and say, "If you're not ready for the responsibility of sex (or a failure of birth control), then just don't have sex."
"Keep it in your pants" must apply to both sexes if fairness and equality is desired.
As you say, this is about autonomy and the proper link between choice and consequences, but our opponents would have us crawling on our knees like a beast or a slave to another person's will.
Torgo1969 1 week ago
@Torgo1969 Exactly. This is Feminism's idea of "equality" in which it is a la carte. "We want parity in upper management and CEO positions" (but let's not talk about parity in criminal sentencing or homelessness or divorce & family law decisions or workplace deaths etc.etc. Equality has a totally different meaning when your lens is seen through millions of years of supposed victimhood and vulnerability.
TMac473 1 week ago
PP DOES receive federal money for abortions! They dance around the Hyde Amendment. Let's say you have $50 to pay your phone bill. Your mother gives you $50 but says you can't use it to buy beer. So you use her 50 to pay your phone bill, and your 50 is now available to buy the beer with. Your mother still bought you the beer, right? On a personal note, I went to PP young, single, pregnant, and poor. They offered NO free/reduced prenatal care. But they were sure willing to give me an abortion.
Noelle2ls 2 weeks ago
Sex is good, birth control is good and abortion is a choice a woman must be able to make. Virgins and old white males cannot be allowed to tell the rest of us how to live. Christians should go back to fighing each other, like they did in europe, before the europeans found them out and simply ignored them. I used to love some good old fashioned catholic vs protestant violence..........
MrHaggis03 2 weeks ago
@MrHaggis03 lol.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
Birth Control is still murder. So even if planned parenthood is only helping to murder 54 million lives in 39 years through abortion, they're still helping to kill babies in different ways such as birth control, condoms, etc. If you can't live with the responsibility that sex brings (a human life) then you shouldn't be having sex at all. Just sayin :p
monolithicblackhole4 3 weeks ago
@monolithicblackhole4 condoms protect you from stis/stds like aids. hope you're taking care of all those babies and checking your sti/std status.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@monolithicblackhole4 I hope your joking, so what your going to ban menstrual periods?
guyv00 1 week ago
@guyv00 is that what I said? I'm pretty sure I didn't say that once...but good job sticking to the point.
monolithicblackhole4 1 week ago
Reading these comments has made me stupid. And in fact, I feel stupid for doing so.
CowgirlAbbe 3 weeks ago
who gives a shit? planned parenthood is NOTHING but a franchise of abortion clinics. PC docs take medicaid. most of "health services" PP provides is KILLING BABIES.
michelabelle100 4 weeks ago
Oh really, only 3% of the 'services' of PP are abortions; that's enough to kill 54 million babies in 39 years. :(
ilikecats40111 1 month ago 2
So glad you people are gone!
marcef100 1 month ago
you should fund your own abortions pure and simple
jnwanekezi 1 month ago
Wait, why do people who disagree with abortion have to fund abortion clinics? I mean, I know you're an enlightened feminist and all and know how everyone's money should be spent but...
Okay, let me break this down for you:
Let's say a homeless man periodically robs a candy store for lollies to give to some kiddies at the park. Eventually a policeman comes by and arrests the vagrant. Does that mean the police officer hates those children?
Think, girl. Keep at it...
Now, what have you learned?
IdeologueReview 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@IdeologueReview You appear not to have actually listened to the video. "These provisions to pull the funds from PP came from anti-abortion lawmakers:
folks who don't want to give money to an organization that provides abortions.
Fine. I understand this, but let's be clear.
NONE of that money is used to fund abortion services.
You know how I know that?
Because for the past 35 years, the Hyde Amendment has prohibited federal funds from being used to provide abortions!"
kyriathalia 1 month ago in playlist Videoblogs
19 is boss. Why can't there be more women like her?
galendracos 1 month ago
you can get birth control anywhere ! -.- the closest planned parenthood to me is long beach ! a 45 min from that ! i think id rather go to rite aid ! you guys make it seem like planned parent hood is the only place we can get all these services ! for low cost or free well i want to let you know that its not (:
esaflygiirl123 2 months ago
sorry one last thing there are 800 health care insures out there ! planned parenthood tries to make it seem like without them many women wont get health care which isnt true because "liveaction" did an undercover spoof & plannedparent hood told them that there were other places where they could get the same thing!
esaflygiirl123 2 months ago
& no birth control isnt a form of abortion ! the egg isnt a human fetus (human being yet) the word fetus comes from the word young one or child ! i forget which language my appologies !
esaflygiirl123 2 months ago
@Lady0Pamela do you really want to know why i care? i care because i feel like all you pro abortion people are being brain washed by planned parenthood and other abortion cliniques! YES they lie to you check out the undercover vids on youtube ! if your gonna have a STRONG opinion on something then you should know a hella lot about the subject!! all i know is that that fetus is a human life ! a fetus is a being & it is a human fetus which makes it a life & i dont want people to be killing there
esaflygiirl123 2 months ago
1:51 less than 3% of the U.S. government's funding is also spent on education. In a way, this is little, and a lot. 3% can be a large number if you think about it...
TheresNoHappyEnd 2 months ago
She's a fucking filth and worm walking the face of this earth. You fucking feminist shitbag I hope your whole entire movement gets fucked in the ass 200 times for each ruined life of a man it has affected.
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@lvsoad22 Don't shit yourself, bro. Somebody has a tiny wiener, lol LOLOLOL!!!
galendracos 1 month ago
@galendracos Ha the typical feminist bullshit response. Sorry I'm not like other guys who get offended when you mention penis size.
lvsoad22 1 month ago
@lvsoad22 LOL OMG YOU'RE MAD! You're so mad internet tough guy, you don't even know how to handle it, and over a You Tube comment!!! LOL!! You just made my day, Scrub. LOLOLOLOL. Thanks for the response, no really LMFAO!!
galendracos 1 month ago
@galendracos lol yeah cuz you could totally tell i was mad.
lvsoad22 1 month ago
@lvsoad22 watch out y'all we got a badass over here!
AverynNorth 1 month ago
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Margaret Louise Sanger (Founder of Planned Parenthood)
1879 - 1966
"We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population"
HHH100 2 months ago
How about BIRTHRITE, its better than Planned Parenthood. Truthfully though, its our VALUES that are corrupt, if we are in the realm of trying to minimize this stuff instead of promoting positivee values with a bull crap idea of preventive care. (another way of saying, if your going to do the wrong thing, do it with this and you'll be ok)
truthegreat 2 months ago
@truthegreat have you considered the economical repercussions of a generation of unwanted babies? Twenty years after abortion was made legal in the US crime rates in large cities dropped exponentially. Maybe because there were less young adults that would've been born to 16yr old parents living in poverty. Some people just aren't ready for children.
AverynNorth 1 month ago
@AverynNorth Wow this is so appalling. We now live in a society so corrupt, that we no longer want to suffer the consequences of our mistakes. Secondly I challenge your assertion that crime has dropped, I would argue the opposite, plus there are many complexities to consider before you make that claim. We need to solve the ROOT problem, corruption is like weeds, if you dont solve the root issue, then you are just making it worst with unintended consequences.
truthegreat 1 month ago
I REALLY LIKE YOUR VIDEO GIRL !!! you've put it into simple easy to understand reasons why cutting for PP should not be happening.
wendisue100 2 months ago
@wendisue100 Ass kisser
CpsLock3 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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now in WISCONSIN. Gov. Walker has decided to cut screenings for cervical and breast cancer too. God forbid any funding goes to Planned Parenthood because it also has abortion as an option. Scott Walker just doesnt care about anyone who uses PP for ANY REASON. Its horrible
wendisue100 2 months ago
When are feminists going to pursue the rights of women to take up the responsibility of raising a child that they choose to have? The rights to be accountable and responsible for paying and supporting their own children without oppressive laws that force a woman to have the man pay child support even when the "father" never even wanted a child? Search for Girlwriteswhat LPS 1, 2, 3 & 4. C'mon women keep fighting this oppression.
TMac473 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@TMac473 simple. wear a condom.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@cherubicnerd right. HE made HER pregnant. This is why women are treated as children. Women hold no accountability for getting themselves pregnant. Only the man is to be held responsible for his actions. Clearly you didn't watch Girlwriteswhat LPS or have any idea what legal parental surrender is. You are just lost in the blaming of men and victimhood of women. When will women own their actions good and bad? oh yeah right- forgot we're talking about women here.
TMac473 2 weeks ago
@TMac473 it's very simple. it takes a woman and a man to create life. if people don't want to deal with pregnancy then wear condoms or don't have sex at all. at least not the usual way of having sex, if you're hetero. my statement excludes women and girls who have been raped.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@cherubicnerd You still don't get it. Pay attention pls: When an accidental pregnancy occurs, a woman has 3 options- abort, up for adoption or mother. Men have 2; pay up or jail. So, If we are "equal" (hahahahahaha) then how is this fair? Why are only women given this choice? Why do we treat women like children in society? Because they demand it. If women can elect to walk away, why can't men?
TMac473 2 weeks ago
@TMac473 actually,3:father. and,if a man doesn't want to take responsibility for a child then he should wear a condom or don't have hetero sex. pregnancy is never accidental. both people go in knowing that the condom or birth control pill is not 100% effective in preventing pregnancy. men shouldn't be able to walk away from taking care of the children they helped create. abortion isn't an easy choice,btw.
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
@cherubicnerd Despite your efforts to derail I'll make my point again. AFTER the fact, the man has only 2 choices. Stop trying to turn this into an evil man argument. If women want equality and the choice to walk away from a pregnancy then why can't men? Currently women CAN walk away from taking care of the children they create. Pls don't put words in my mouth; I never said abortion would be an easy choice.
TMac473 2 weeks ago
@TMac473 no,he has three. by "walk away",you mean have an abortion or put the child up for adoption,right? that isn't "walking away". neither choice is easy and it usually ends up being put on the woman to either take care of her child by herself,put the child in the system or abort it. the man can either take care of the child himself,put the child up for adoption or WALK AWAY. you do know that men have walked away from their children and haven't suffered the consequences,right?
cherubicnerd 2 weeks ago
On the topic of choice we should choose to have guns. Anyone who dosen't want us to have them will have to take them off our hands after we are dead of course.
CpsLock3 2 months ago
Funny how women preach about a women has a right to choose but if she's a Catholic who dosen't like planned parrenthood sorry you gotta support it through taxes you anti choice silly girl.
CpsLock3 2 months ago
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crangdaniel 2 months ago
Wow, could your thinking be smaller?
marcef100 3 months ago
@Feministing Dude,I totally agree with you.
psychoticbishoujou 3 months ago
Planned Parenthood provides me my birth control for free. So they help me, a lot. For the most part helping me avoid an un wanted pregnancy that I otherwise would abort. Yes. I'm sorry, but I would. A fetus before the third trimester isn't developed enough to "not want to be 'killed' " (Notice my quotations around "killed") and before you say "you shouldn't have had sex"a lot of people DO take precautions, but accidents happen. Unless you're a nun you can't expect people to never have sex.
xPowderBluLolipopzx 3 months ago
@Lady0Pamela to you pro choice or pro abortion people thats all it is right? someone elses business? someone elses body? so why do all you nosy pro life people give a shit? ima tell you why! because i dont think that its right that people can go to cliniques & kill babies. does that baby want to be killed? no! so i dont think its right that the mother has the right to dispose of THEIR body (the babies body) !!!
esaflygiirl123 4 months ago
@StPatrickEdu I believe life begins when birth ends.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@StPatrickEdu Take your moral distinction and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@StPatrickEdu Hey let's not forget to punish women for a spontaneous abortion. As was proposed, if a woman miscarries we should make sure she didn't cause it right? Punish her if we can find her at fault. Down with women any means necessary right.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@theserbok Those aren't feminist fighting those places.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@theserbok No this isn't equality to feminist. As a feminist I believe that a couple should make decisions together. I believe a man should have a right early enough to sign away his parental rights and opt out of fininacial responsibilty, the time frame though has to be early enough that if without his assistance she can opt to abort. However if the man run and hides no he has no say.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@theserbok When a woman pays child support there is no guarantee the man spent it on the child. Maybe men should get to know there women before having kids with them. As for the Selective Service System all for it especially if you let women choose to be on the front lines. My Army buddy wanted to do that but the closest they let her is disarming land mines.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@feathernote So true the more babies born the more money the gov gets. Today adults make decisions on the number of kids they can afford to have as to not be a burden a society, however kids especially kids of religious families can breed like jack rabbits and the parents won't let their kids know all their choices. So sad. This ppl don't want to pay for a one time abortion, but 18 years of life, while complaining they have to pay for it.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
Planned parent hood is an abortion clinique that provides other services, don't be fooled ....
esaflygiirl123 4 months ago
@esaflygiirl123 Why do you care so much? Why do you give 2 shits about a strange woman you don't know having an abortion of a fetus/baby you don't want and have no desire to help grow to be an adult? Nah, you just want to be up in other ppl's buisness so you can judge them right?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
Girl you are soooooooooooo blindeddo you also believe that at one time YOU were just a fetus .... Planned parent hood lies to the moms, there is a books from former planned parent Hoosier women that say they regret telling all the lies they did
esaflygiirl123 4 months ago
@esaflygiirl123 How are they lying? You walk in the door, you go to a simple counseling meeting asking how long have you been thinking about your decision, have you been coerced, is this what you want, and if everything is on the up and up you are asked what kinda anestesia you want. Where are the lies??? You people keep saying there are these lies, like women are so stupid they don't do their own research and take time to consider all choices?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
i think you have confused child support with alimony or 'spousal support'.
KemetDaFrog 4 months ago
Ok, I think I;m having a moment of genius here: OR you can say....i don't know...NOT HAVE SEX??? It's called abstinence and guess what...not only a FLAWLESS plan for not gettign pregnant or getting STD's but it does not force taxpayers to subsidize your "promiscuous" lifestyle....oh wait there is more! and it is FREE to every woman of every age in the country!
this has NOTHING to do with abortion...see above
jayda5956 4 months ago
@jayda5956 OMG yeah women can get pregnant so they should be abstinent. You shouldn't have sex with your boyfriend, or husband unless you are okay with conceiving, which means if you only want one kid you are very limited to the amount of times you will be able to have sex, because once you get pregnant that's it, one kid. So after you stop having sex with your husband you better hope he doesn't find another woman, or hey you could always become a polygamist. Abstinence doesn't work.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
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beautifulwhitecat 4 months ago
@kermy you didn't respond to my comments about mandatory chastity belts for men that would eliminate abortions.
guess there's no need for men to be responsible in the forced-birthers' minds
there always the women blame game: women should keep their legs together.
sperm like you & other men's rights groups always need a person to to blame for men's inadequencies; feminism which started in the first place to gain rights.
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@canadianskye1964 you are nuts. i just now got your message on my page. just so you know, the only example you used, the 'rule of thumb' has been proven false countless times. it was never a measurement for tools to beat ones wife. next you will be quoting Nancy K.D. Lemon and her books where she ascribes some of the earliest proof of misogyny and patriarchy to ROMULUS OF ROME, you know, the fictional character LMAO. you are a brainwashed woman. goodbye
KemetDaFrog 4 months ago
@KemetDaFrog In South Carolina in the books it is perfectly legal to beat your wife on the court house steps on Sundays. Yes these were laws we had and they are everywhere. In Vermont, for a woman to wear false teeth she first must get written permission from her husband. Stupid laws everywhere. Good bye
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964 LMFAO
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canadianskye1964 5 months ago
being against both birth control & abortion is as logical as kermet the frog marrying miss piggy & procreating. it is impossible.
canadianskye1964 5 months ago 2
@kermy marriage was traditionally set up for the benefit of men & the patriarchals system. women & children were property + she worked equally hard as the men being a housewife & "women" of house re care of the yeard, animals, house, etc while the man worked. of course she took care of her husbands' needs before her own or her children
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@kermy pro-choice women are women who may not ever have an abortion but support the choice. they also get have loving marriages & children & well-rounded lives. they are active in more organizations than ones that concern abortion-ones that truly benefit their community & society.
feminism is not the evil that forced birther make it out to be.
i bet you are religious as that is the last bastion of patriarchal & so you can maintain power as a "man"
canadianskye1964 5 months ago 2
@kermy whatever. you are wrong. i'm sure everyone is glad to be rid of you.
the church is one example of the failure of patriarchy: a priest can commit statutory rape & neither the pope nor the church as the courage to do anything about it. (male or female.
pro-choice women stand for choice but we are also nurturing mothers, wives, daughters, aunts, grandmothers.
we are more wiling to help women in all sorts of cases not just in the case of unwanted pregnancy or abortion.
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
the only time abortion should be legal is if the woman was raped. Raped is FORCED sex, however if women have voluntary sex and end up pregnant than that is HER AND HIS responsibility, the child doesn't deserve to be punished for that. Too many bitches are going through with this infanticide and thinking they are controlling their own body, what women fail to realize is that abortion is NOT about control over your body, it's about control over the life of an unborn child.
THEATRYCAL 5 months ago
@THEATRYCAL Well thank you for chiming in but your point was not needed. It's never his responsibility unless he wants to take it, he can run and a woman can be left on her own completely blinded by the fact dude was a douchebag. Too many assholes are knocking up women and leaving them to make difficult decisions whle the asshole goes to knock up another. What men don't realize is it is none of their business, it is legal to have abortions, and we will fight you to the death.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pame actually the woman can use the law to force him to pay for the child weather he wanted the child or not. You also forget that women have all reproductive rights and over 20 methods of birth control, so honestly if she gets pregnant it's mostly her fault considering all the options the law and society gives her. If he wants the child the woman can abort it without his opinion on it at all. And if he DOESN'T want the kid she'll just force child support on him. Her body her choice right.
THEATRYCAL 4 months ago 2
@THEATRYCAL If she can find him, if he has a job that doesn't pay him under the counter, etc. Wow and the fact that BC isn't 100% effective? The law gives her the option to have an abortion. Hey I am all for the right of the man to request to keep the baby and upon birth she can hand it over if she chooses, but if he is scum I can't blame her for not seeing that as a good option. Also I am all for men opting out of fatherhood if he doesn't want it but that means all of fatherhood and forever.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela her body, her choice, HIS WALLET!!!
THEATRYCAL 4 months ago 5
@THEATRYCAL Do you know the statistics of men who pay for abortions when they want to, and when they don't, versus women who pay for their own abortions?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela NOBODY has to pay for abortions. It's all government funded. That's the beauty of the birth control industry, it puts almost NO pressure or sacrifice on females. Yep only in the misandric US of A xD.
THEATRYCAL 4 months ago 5
@THEATRYCAL Oh so first it's his wallet and now it's the US people's wallet, wanna make up your mind here? Anyways, I know several women who paid for their own services, never met one that the government paid for theirs. It is possible that they pay for abortions for low income women, but then again if you are bitching about the money it cost for the abortion, how much do you bitch about paying the cost for 18 years?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@L a woman paying for her own services? that's extremely rare to find, considering MOST would have someone else do it for them, if you found some that pay for it themselves you hit the lucky jackpot xD but as for paying for the 18 years remember that many women who had multiple sex partners deceive men into thinking it's their child and have them pay for a kid that's not theirs. But if they are the true father AND the woman didn't poke a hole in the condom purposely then yes he should pay.
THEATRYCAL 4 months ago 2
@THEATRYCAL Hey your bad taste in women is no ones fault but your own, or whoever the idiot is who doesn't get a paternity test. LOL Poke a hole in the condom, yeah tons of women are out there doing that, women really want to be connected to losers for the rest of their lives, it's never cause the man bought cheap condoms and doesn't know how to use them. Hey here is a tip, know the woman your about to sleep with. PS EDD pills are paid for by gov, not birth control, whose being favored?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@THEATRYCAL Her body, his sperm, his wallet... THEIR baby killed.
MensRightsVideos 4 months ago
@MensRightsVideos precisely, that's why abortion is so evil. It literally takes up as if it's ONLY the woman's child and that everyone else BUT the mother should pay for it, it's sickening!. I would give up on arguing with feminists if i were you it's a waste of energy, your time would be better spent talking to a dead pigeon xD
THEATRYCAL 4 months ago
@THEATRYCAL One more question since you went from rape should be the only reason to have abortion to a guy pays for if he wants to or not to the people pay for it via the government. So if rape was the only time a woman in your opinion should have an abortion, who should pay for that?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela whoever did that to her should pay by doing jail time. And the government will take care of all her problems including if she wants an abortion or not, as i said the government will always favor women and cater to their every need and desire :)
THEATRYCAL 4 months ago
@alaskafido women have been blamed for the sins/evils of the world since Eve. now women are being blamed for "men's suffering" conveniently because of feminism. it seems men have a (subconscious) mistrust/hatred of women & need to control us. rememember the movie 'fatal attraction?" wonderful men/husbands were yelling 'kill the bitch' & cheered when she did. frightened wives shrank in their seats. alex had been impregnated by the husband, who didn't want his world changed, watch the movie
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@canadianskye1964
and for the record you through the inception of your birth certificate you are chattel property of the state, please see Maritime Salvage Law/Universal Commercial Code/The Law of the High Seas and the Freeman (on the land) Perspective.
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
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canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@KemetDaFrog maybe in england, my friend. but that still doesn't give the state or forced birthers to control a person's body.
perhaps, the state, (since men would be chattels as well) men should be forced to wear chastity belts since men can't keep their legs together or maybe men should be clipped. abortion problem solved .
your comments on this channel to everyone have been ridiculous. go back inside your cave & do the world a favour-don't reproduce
i am a canadian, froggy
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
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canadianskye1964 5 months ago
i think you are a little confused, marriage serves as a clearly misandric institution and I am not advocating marriage whatsoever. i really must take issue with the posts you have made here which talks of a 'patriarchy which does not benefit men'. your assumption that this could even be true given the definition of a patriarchy is probably representative of your myopia towards direct male suffering, which quite frankly dwarfs female suffering.
men do not have abortion rights you made that up
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
@KemetDaFrog marriage is a patriarchal to benefit men. before feminism, women couldn't vote, own property or have money of their own, no birth control, a man could legally beat a women, a man could "legally" rape his wife-force her to have sex when she didn't want to & receive a beating at the same time.
she was a chattel. a husband could walk away from his wife & childtren anytime if he "tired" of the responsibility.
women had no legal rights or protective measures in this case.,
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@canadianskye1964
marriage is an institution which has absolutely no benefits for men whatsoever. 75% of divorces are initiated by women and 2/3rds of those are on a no fault basis. women win 85% of child custody cases and are supported by the courts in claiming the primary assets (house, car, savings) even when they have made no tangible contribution to the accumulation of these assets. i am from the UK so i will not even touch upon the hate crime known as alimony,
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
@KemetDaFrog perhaps the reason women are initiating divorce is that they aren't willing to put up with the crap of their husbands. perhaps you want to return to the world where a man could leave his wife/kids. or when women received unfair settlements after divorse--paying off 50% of debt even if they weren't responsible, losing the house to their ex, no compensation for contribution they gave to the marriage & family (nursemaid, cook, laundry maid, seamstress, etc)
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@canadianskye1964 Notice he stopped answering, because he has no answer, that is exactly want he wants.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela see my comment below. women are initiating divorce, etc, as they are not willing to take crap from a guy.
this guy also likes to rewrite history of the rule of thumb (he said it was found to be false?!) which i learned about in law
he is a disgruntled, prob. divorced guy who clearly hates women.
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@KemetDaFrog The hate crime known as alimony that is laughable. You take a wife, knock her up a couple of times, take her out of the employment field to have her raise the children, keep the house, and take care of your house, all of which you agreed to or maybe even prefferred, then you wish to leave her broke and with no recent work experience, while leaving her to raise your children, oh and you would like her to do it homeless without a car? Sorry only worked up to the early 1900's.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964
also you seem to have adopted the standardized feminist mindset that the world did not properly exist before MS. Magazine (which was funded by the CIA btw). Men were punished for the crimes of their wives and please beware that the 'rule of thumb' feminists like to quote has been debunked many many times. it is also known Stret & Straus 1987 and Harvard 2007, that women physically assault their husbands more frequently than the other way around.
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
@canadianskye1964
also you seem to have adopted the standardized feminist mindset that the world did not properly exist before MS. Magazine (which was funded by the CIA btw). Men were punished for the crimes of their wives and please beware that the 'rule of thumb' feminists like to quote has been debunked many many times. it is also known Stret & Straus 1987 and Harvard 2007, that women physically assault their husbands more frequently than the other way around.
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
@KemetDaFrog a men's rights advocate, i believe, you may rewrite history as you want to everyone statement you made is,
FALSE!
not only that you are a conspiracy nut case. i wouldn't be surprised if took part of the violence that erupted in england monhs ago; perhaps the state should lock you up.
canadianskye1964 5 months ago
@canadianskye1964 no maritime salvage law is not a conspiracy, some basic education in legalese will allow you to understand the process whereby the state strips you of a number of inalienable common-law freedoms merely because the population at large are unaware they have legally understood 'the state' to begin with.
the number of outrageous assertions you made prove you to be rather too insecure for me to continue this conversation. good luck to you on your confused and irrational journey
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
@theserbok I'm a feminist and I don't believe its right that women always win child custody cases. This is an instance in which the patriarchy actually leans /towards/ women, because women are still assumed to be primary caregivers. Just because it favors women doesn't mean feminists agree its right. Patriarchy is wrong, no matter who it helps.
Name2BDecidededLater 5 months ago
@Name2BDecidededLater Agree to that, still I have to say I know a few situations that the men did get the custody and several situations where they didn't want even the option of spending time with their kids after divorce. It's really sad.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
Thanks for making and posting this great video! (And for reminding people that Planned Parenthood is not just a place that provides abortion services.)
HitsuIchii 6 months ago
This is amazing, your a genius! Thanks for making this video :)
melistar28 6 months ago
LMAO i thought it meant you make me vomit in fairness
KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
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KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
and EMPRESSJUDGE13 if you really believe that being unwanted is as bad as you say it is surely men who get a woman pregnant should have the right to a termination if he seeks one? if daddy doesn't want a child thats just as 'demeaning' so the same should apply right? of course not, silly me! its all about a womans right to do whatever she wants at any given time regardless of how abstract her behavior is from reality and anything else is patriarchy-inspired mysogynist oppression! simple as that!
KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
It's interesting that whenever Planned Parenthood is brought up for discussion (like here in the comments) it IMMEDIATELY becomes a fight over abortion. Not the other services that make up the overwhelming majority of what PP does: Pap smears, disease testing, birth control. The truth is: No woman/female-bodied individual wants to HAVE to terminate a pregnancy or HAVE to make that choice; hence why birth control is so vital. Take away PP, & what are u left with? MORE (ILLEGAL/UNSAFE) ABORTIONS.
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago 2
@EJ i came here because i have seen 19% and she tends to present very one-sided arguments, i merely wanted to see what else she was putting out into our collective youtube-consciousness. i saw your conversation and remarked about your poor debating skills. thank you for your 'response'. it is interesting that you chose to engage extensively with someone about the topic of abortion, then smeared those who do just that on PP comments sections. does that not make you a little ridiculous at all? no?
KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
@KDF Perhaps I'm being a bit dense here, but I must ask: Which concerns you more, winning this argument or getting to the bottom of this issue? Take pot shots at my "debating skills" all you like: I noticed you sidestepped the point I made directly to you in the hopes of having a coherent discussion, namely that taking away PP is not going to do much to stop abortions, it's just going to proliferate back-alley abortions. What do you hope to accomplish here? What do you want me to see? Tell me.
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago
@EmpressJudge13
last post. you are all over the place, telling us not to understand this issue strictly in relation to abortion, then in your last two posts the crux of your argument is summarized in terms of abortion itself. wow. you also sidestepped the original question i put to you about a fathers right to abort and instead assert that no woman wants to make that choice... and if you expect we will get to the bottom of this on this youtube comments section, god help you.
KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
@KemetDaFrog YMMV, pal.
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago
@EmpressJudge13
lol okay good point. you go and have a lie down now... you've earned it clearly!
KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
@KemetDaFrog What happened to that being your last post? (Also, YMMV stands for Your Mileage May Vary; I'm essentially saying agree to disagree)
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago
@KemetDaFrog You really want a man to be able to /force/ a woman to do something with her body she doesn't want done?
Name2BDecidededLater 5 months ago
@Name2BDecidededLater
when the issue is the creation and raising of children, the status quo, ie women having total control over reproductive rights and being assumed as preferred sole custodians in divorce, does not benefit either men or, more importantly, children, who are the most vulnerable group in any society. i believe society needs to adopt a more equilateral understanding, because, as feminists point out when it suits them to do so, a fathers influence is also essential for children
KemetDaFrog 5 months ago
@KemetDaFrog Right, I forgot if a father isn't married to the mother, the child doesn't have a father. /sarcasm/ We DO agree on one point: I'm don't think that women are better caregivers nor do they deserve to win the majority of custody cases. This is where the patriarchy actually aids women and I don't support it there either. But you forget, men have just as much right to abort their pregnancies as women do. If it were needed, though, it would be bad on a lot of other levels
Name2BDecidededLater 5 months ago
the conversation beneath mine is a fine example of feminist reasoning. lose the debate... then bring in an emotional story all of which relates to some personal experience which cultured your world view. illogical and schizophrenic rationale exposed. and if you are wondering why MRAs keep popping up on the forums you haven't blocked us from with so much vigour it is simple;
nobody could objectively assess relevant empirical data and subscribe to feminism. you have been brainwashed.
KemetDaFrog 6 months ago
@KemetDaFrog Unbe-friggin-lievable.
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago
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@theserbok What? You're not even making any sense now. What does any of this have to do with Planned Parenthood? I love how when you're cornered, you rant on about something else and then claim that I don't understand your point. It's too late to stop you from making a fool of yourself on here, but you're only going to embarass yourself further if you keep pretending you actually understand feminism.
TheGnomeNome 6 months ago
@theserbok I understand your point, I just think you're full of crap. Men absolutely have reproductive rights. They have the right to agree to or refuse sex. When you can get pregnant, then you'll be free to decide whether to keep or terminate YOUR pregnancy. So it seems to me that either you are advocating that you get to decide what happens to someone else's body, or you're whining about the "unfairness" of child support. Either one makes you despicable. How do you live with yourself?
TheGnomeNome 6 months ago
@theserbok Then I suppose you are busily fighting the belief that women should be the ones to look after the children at all time, and helping to remove the stigma of the working parent not being male, right? Yeah, I didn't think so. Mothers are the primary caregivers, so they get custody more often than not. There is no guarantee that the mother isn't going to spend it on the child. There is no guarantee that a father will spend it on his child either.
TheGnomeNome 7 months ago
Planned Parenthood? More like Un-Manned Parenthood.
MensRightsVideos 7 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Clever! So what's your take on the situation, if you don't mind me asking?
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago
@Empress Abortion is not a "reproductive" right. It's DE-productive. It's about ending life. Sperm and the egg may be animated but they do not GROW. And every high school biology textbook describes Life as that which grows and reproduces.
Abortion-happy feminists have lowered the bar on valuing human life. If left alone, that "fetus" (your enemy) would grow and leave your body.
Where is the baby's "choice" in all this? Abortion steals a baby's choice away in the selfish name of "inconvenience".
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Don't you think it is a little hard to ask the fetus, and if you wait till it is born and it says I wish you had never had me, I hate this life, I hate this world, too bad too late, your here, make the best of it.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@EmpressJudge13 We need to encourage and demand that men be responsible fathers. Feminism has infected their minds with excuses that they can just divorce, pressure a girl into abortion, or walk away and leave her a single mother. This is WRONG. This is EVIL.
Feminism has demeaned fatherhood and pregnancy, treating them like enemies to a woman's selfish vanity. They are really the best complements to a woman's life, without which she will discover at 40 that her life is shallow and empty.
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago
@MensRightsVideos "Feminism has demeaned fatherhood and pregnancy, treating them like enemies to a woman's selfish vanity. They are really the best complements to a woman's life, without which she will discover at 40 that her life is shallow and empty."
Please give my apologies to infertile women. Or lesbians. Or asexuals. Or anyone without children or the ability to get married. I hadn't realized that they had such empty existences. How unkind of me.
Name2BDecidededLater 5 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Yes women being strong and independent made men little bitches, I should've known eventually we would be blamed for the men who don't give a crap. OH has the poor little man been demeaned and emotionally neutered. Yes without a man we are just nothing, thanks for pointing that out.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Yeah and yet our male run government hasn't made it so infertility is covered by insurance and their are no programs to help pay for IVF which cost thousands. As well as making adoption damn near immpossible unless you are very well off.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@EmpressJudge13 The feminist argument that "It's my body" is bullshit. How many women abort their kidney or their lung? A woman is not born with a fetus. It needs input from a man's body and "outside" DNA. If left alone to survive, that "fetus" would grow and leave her body. It's not a permanent part of her body. And the proof that a fetus is Life is when a man kills a pregnant woman = he is charged with DOUBLE homicide (the woman and the baby).
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago 2
@MensRightsVideos This may seem callous, but kidneys or lungs are essential to one's body. A fetus isn't. Carrying a pregnancy to term/raising the a child should be a freely chosen decision, not the result of gov't enforcement. Imagine being viewed, not as a human being, but a walking incubator: passive/useless without seminal input. Also: the double homicide clause DOES need to be changed, IMO; if the child is struck down in the murdered woman's arms, I'd buy it. But as a fetus? Not so much.
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago
@EmpressJudge13 It's beyond callous: it's demeaning to other people's lives. That "essential" statement you made is typical feminist thinking that defines other people's lives in terms of a woman's selfish "convenience".
I would argue that the baby would consider its own body as "essential" to its own survival. Too bad feminists see a "fetus" as disposable garbage instead of a human being.
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Know what else is demeaning to other people's lives? Not being wanted. Knowing that your existence is the product of rape/government interference. That's another aspect of choice in a "pro-choice" ideology. I was an unwanted child. I didn't know for sure until I was old enough to be told, but I picked up on it. I was eventually given to people who did want me, but had I not been, I doubt we'd be speaking now. I'd much rather have been "disposable garbage" in the womb than out.
EmpressJudge13 6 months ago 5
stop trying to compete with men. you're proving to be a miserable failure.
suchafool990 7 months ago
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@suchafool990 Not possible, when there are idiotic specimens such as yourself still around.
TheGnomeNome 7 months ago 2
@theserbok Child support is for the child. Should the father take custody, the mother will have to pay it.
I'd make some remark about anti-feminist logic, but they never seem to actually employ any.
TheGnomeNome 7 months ago
Thanks to Planned Parenthood, my boyfriend, who is uninsured, was able to be tested and treated for chlamydia at no charge when literally NO OTHER MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT would help him. Planned Parenthood is an ESSENTIAL organization and to destroy it would be an atrocity.
IlyssaS 7 months ago
@IlyssaS ...and you went right back to letting him stick it back inside you, didn't you? You don't need Planned Parenthood. You need a psychologist.
MensRightsVideos 7 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Wow, that was a super inappropriate question and none of your business. Never say anything like that again.
Name2BDecidededLater 5 months ago
@MensRightsVideos Wow extremely cave man of you. A girl who has an intimate relationship with her boyfriend is none of your business. I really hope you don't stick anyone, we don't need you reproducing. You might want to get into some therapy.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Well tell that to her next time she decides to go on YouTube blabbing about her boyfriend's STDs.
MensRightsVideos 4 months ago
@MensRightsVideos You don't know her boyfriend do you? She is simply explaining the benefits planned parenthood offers outside of abortion. Prolifers want to shut down PP altogether not just stop them from doing abortions. In case you didn't know though, everytime you end a relationship with one lover and before you take another especially you should be tested.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
PREACH IT SISTER.
ifyoudontknowmee 7 months ago
what a........making jokes about having a child killed. this is sick.
kevinjjfr 7 months ago
maybe planned parenthood should promote shows like teen mom to win the PR battle
aweiss 7 months ago
GIRL they dont care about womens bodies rights or poor people they care about their bible "facts" its a sad realization i know right. its as if jesus is coming down providing childcare.....hes not!
PimpMyParadigm 7 months ago 2
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Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger who was an outspoken propoent of eugenics. She wanted the organization so thrive as way to curtail the growth of lower classes. In other words Planned Parenthood was formed as way to stop poor people from reproducing. I can tell from how she talks she doesn't know this and that she's a feminist but of course feminism and not knowing often march in lockstep.
deepfriedtnecks 7 months ago
@deepfriedtnecks Wow you have read all the prolifin literature ain' ya. Margaret Sanger was not outspoken on eugenics. You know so little about her that you have the nerve to slander her name. She saw things you and I couldn't imagine and she wanted women to have better options. Please don't take about what you don't know.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela It took you 3 wks to write you reply...moving on. Margaret Sanger did support eugenics, she felt that mentally retarded ppl and other "lesser" people should be forcefully sterilized, this is very well-known but downplayed aspect of her life. She was also a racist and nativist(if you know what this means)
deepfriedtnecks 4 months ago
@deepfriedtnecks Wow your a bright lightbulb aren't you? It didn't take three weeks for me to write my reply I just saw you slanderous comment today. I have done my own research, unlike you clearly. All you are stating about her is lies and things ppl have taken out of context to make her look bad. However, I will offer you the samething I offer them, where is your proof, citations, quotes,etc. Prove it or admit you are full of heresay bs.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Again with the ad hominems. Here you go, google it to find the essay, A Plan for Peace, published in 1932 by Margaret Sanger, mainly about forced sterilization of mentally challenged. Not that it will change your opinion you'll probably saying something like I wrote it to make her look bad lol
deepfriedtnecks 4 months ago
@deepfriedtnecks Her whole plan for peace if you read it states if a person or group so chooses, not force it upon them like 17 states in the USA were already doing. She wanted to help with controlling the population and immigration as to the ppl would not become a burden on society and government funding. Yes it's out there and yes I don't agree, but no where does she say she believed ppl should be forced. Twisted but not forced.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago