wow,, 12hp single phase, that thing must pull like 60-70 amps, those motors are crazy expensive last one I saw was upward of $4k, Like the idea of a propane tank.
@Swanny383 well actually the first motor i put on here was a 10-12 hp motor. im an electrical engineer and never saw one before or since like it. i thought they were either 10 r 12 horse, but ive never known of one that culd be from 10 12 hp. and the new motor i have on it now, it was like $800 brand new
@Swanny383 A 12 HP would figure to draw about 40 amps at 220 V. Not that crazy considering a clothes dryer use a 30 A, circuit. a Kitchen range a 50 A. circuit.
Is it really necessary to drain your air compressor air tank after every use or once a month or once a week is good. I barely use it Probably 1 time a month or 2 most. I heard if you dont; drain it it will rust but I think it is waste of air and electric if you drain it every time. Can you help me out? thanks
@kzkevin888 Yes u need 2 drain it at least once a week. Not only will it rust ur tank out, but it will cause ur air tools all kinds of problems, screw up ur paint if u try to paint sumthin.
@kzkevin888 Staying the obvious it's a semi- educated guess as to how often to drain the tank. Depends on how much air you compress whenever you use it & relative humidity. Unless you have a huge volume tank, it should cost that much to refill it every time you blow out the water. If I where you I'd blow it out, the tank will rust. How long will it take to perforate the tank who knows?
@waswestkan You can buy an auto drain (120 vac Solenoid) and set it to 1 sec every 45 min, you will minimize air loss and reduce condensate within the wet receiver, you should never have to blow out the whole tank. Condensation all depends on inlet ambient air temp and RH, cont...
@purelife500ml it also depends on the pump, some pumps create more HOC, I also depents on what pressure you have it set to, generally if you are using it with tools u will set the tank to 175psig and have a drier and a reg on the outlet, reg it down to 90-100, doing this will minimize cylcle rates, drying the air will lower the dewpoint to prevent airlines from condensing, also depending on the sitch you could add a filter and and oiler on hose outlet and tool inlet.
@lectricgenius if you are like me you try to take advantage of every tool you can get your hands on. but i use my air compressor and battery charger almost every day here on my small farm. couldn't make it without them.
@lectricgenius I'm a stroke survivor as well. I have 6 rural acres, with a nice shop. Sadly with the financial difficulties that came I'm in danger of loosing it all 18 years post stroke. But I managed longer than I though it
@borderraven The bung works just fine for me. I know all about this stuff and did not even have to go in the navy to find it out. I just wish everyone here on youtube would realize that I am no dummy, in fact I am probably smarter than 95% of the people on here. Yet, they feel the need to tell me stuff such as this, which I have known for years, long before youtube, the internet etc. I just wish people would realize this before they post a stupid comment.
@borderraven I do not mind being educated either, in fact I enjoy it. The only problem for me is that I rarely, and seldom get educated by any of the comments that anyone ever gives me on my videos. See, I do not put a video on here unless I know 100% for sure that I know everything there is to know about a particular subject. The closest I can come to not knowing what I am talking about is in my videos about MS. But I feel that no one else knows about this disease either, doctors included.
I think you need to keep things in proportion, so I propose that your next air compressor project run with a V8 mounted on top, with really loud exhaust. Perhaps then, and only then will you finally be able to power that badass impact wrench.
1 phase with that ? must be a lot of amps. to bad you dont have 3 phase. But you can get a VFD and that can take in 230 i phase you give you 3 phase but you have to mach it with your motor HP.
@67tr876 Well, there would not be much advantage to having three phase. See, the total power is what matters, and although it would draw less amperage, you would then have three phases. The only advantage would be wire size, but unless you have the three phase VFD mounted right next to your panel, you would gain nothing. See I am an electrical engineer, and am well versed in three phase, single phase power, as well as VFDs and power electronics.
Hi I am Peter from Ireland, let me say Im into all stuff mechanical too and you made a fine job of that Air Compressor, one thing though if I were you I would give the whole unit a lick of Oxide Paint (stops rust) then paint it engeneering Green, and as for working it in the fields you could mount a 4 stroke petrol lawnmower motor to it in place of the 1hp electric motor then it would be truely portable, nice work though
@Oglaigh32 Well, first of all, It's a 10hp motor not a 1hp as you have stated. And yes, I could mount a 10hp gasoline motor to it, but I do not think I will. Just having it hooked up like I do is plenty, especially with the 500 gal propane tank as my reserve. You can do a lot with it, that's for sure.
even with just the head you should be able to provide enough air to run an impact. maybe not a 1 inch but 3/4 or half
i have a 30 gallon with 9 cfm at 90 psi head it charges and runs air tools at the same time.. so in reality if your not using a large 1 inch to remove tires when i was working on tractor trailers for a living we only used a 80 gallon tank with 10 hp motor worked fine
Basically, yes, you're right. But when your using the impact, well that's another story. Good thing I got this compressor, because I couldn't run my impact otherwise. But, whenever I am painting a car, or the like, it does not run very often and does take a while to 'kick'.
I don't use it that much, so the power bill is not too bad. I would say you could definitely sandblast a car, but I haven't used it for that. Basically, I have used it for working on the dozer primarily.
For the field, if you really need alot of air, buy a used hydrovane with a 4cyl engine. I bought one for $1500 and I have 150CFM at 120PSI, that is enough air to run 30+ impact wrenches at the same time. That is a good stationary compressor, but I think you would not find it very usefull for field work. If you put that pump on your friends 60GAL tank I bet he would never run out if air either. Tanks are just for burst pressure and to reduce the startup times of the pump.
I hate to tell you, but I know exactly what the tank is for. After all, I am an engineer for christ's sakes! And that would be an engineer with tons of real world experience! just love how everyone than me and they have something to prove..
Ok then, not proving anything really, and I talk to alot of people that know nothing about compressors. I really have no idea what type of person I am talking to. I just was thinking it must be kind of hard to take in the field.
I am an engineer my self, but I don't lay claim that I don't come up with some questionable ideas sometimes.
No need to be offended as it was not my intention.
Well, you might as well say that you are talking to a real know it all. From electronics to heavy equipment, I've worked on all since I was old enough to.
I might should offer an apology here too. You see, I just got out of the hospital from a basal ganglia stroke. And I tell you, that's nothing to mess with. I couldnt even communicate on here just a few weeks ago. I still cannot walk...it's been a tough fight with many more to come.
We would probibly get along great if I lived there (where ever there is). I hope you recover from the stroke, would hate for you not to be able to keep building things.
I am the same way, since I could hold a tool I worked on and built things.
I can build or repair just about anything now and I am always looking for thing's I don't yet know.
stick an ol' wheelbarrow up there, upside-down "till ya get to it" :-) maybe even an old truck camper-shell topper, that's what I'd do, anyhow :-/ great compressor, man :-)
good clear thinking *and* VERY nice air compressor! 12hp single phase motor? that motor -alone- must'a cost somebody a -fortune-. hope you got some sort of shield, or 'portable roof' you put over the compressor head and motor, to heep the rain off...
LLuE88, I guess lectricgenius just loads the compressor into a truck for field work, and runs the tools off the air IN the tank. it is, after all, a two-stage 175 psi setup...with a -huge- tank :-)
hardwares, you are on the right track. I load it onto a trailer and away I go. I plan to build a roof over it, just never have gotten to it. And yes, I think the motor cost me about $1000 or so. Originally I managed to salvage a motor from a grain bin fan, but it only lasted a few months before I had to shell out some money.
Well, the thing is with a 500 gallon pad of air you can do a lot. My friend uses a 60 gallon air tank and takes it out in the field and we managed to change out a final drive on a john deere combine with it (I was shocked). So, I am not figuring to power it up, merely pump it up at the shop and take it out in the field. I am certain I can do a lot with the volume I have. If need be, I can simply bring it back and fill it up again!
@lectricgenius, I have done quite a few jobs in the field by doing that with my Craftsman compressor with a 30 gallon tank. You can't run a die grinder or such high cfm tool for long on a 30 gallon tank, but it will turn impacts and air ratchet wrenches quite a few times around on one fill.
When you take this unit into the field, what will be the motor? I'm assuming it's 220 single phase electric at about 5 hp minimum?. For gasoline engine what will you use? I have a similar situation developing around a compressor that looks to be slightly smaller.
I am sorry I didn't get back with you sooner-- I didn't realize u had asked me a question. Honestly, I simply pump up the tank and take it from the shop. If I'm doing something that requires a lot of air, I jusy drive back to the shop and hook it back up and let it pump up.
Dude, that is just freakin badass!!! I want one! Rednecks Rock!!
DarksideRacingCrew 1 month ago
wow,, 12hp single phase, that thing must pull like 60-70 amps, those motors are crazy expensive last one I saw was upward of $4k, Like the idea of a propane tank.
Swanny383 9 months ago
@Swanny383 well actually the first motor i put on here was a 10-12 hp motor. im an electrical engineer and never saw one before or since like it. i thought they were either 10 r 12 horse, but ive never known of one that culd be from 10 12 hp. and the new motor i have on it now, it was like $800 brand new
lectricgenius 9 months ago
@Swanny383 A 12 HP would figure to draw about 40 amps at 220 V. Not that crazy considering a clothes dryer use a 30 A, circuit. a Kitchen range a 50 A. circuit.
waswestkan 4 weeks ago
@waswestkan That is what it is sized for.
lectricgenius 4 weeks ago
Is it really necessary to drain your air compressor air tank after every use or once a month or once a week is good. I barely use it Probably 1 time a month or 2 most. I heard if you dont; drain it it will rust but I think it is waste of air and electric if you drain it every time. Can you help me out? thanks
kzkevin888 1 year ago
@kzkevin888 Yes u need 2 drain it at least once a week. Not only will it rust ur tank out, but it will cause ur air tools all kinds of problems, screw up ur paint if u try to paint sumthin.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@kzkevin888 Staying the obvious it's a semi- educated guess as to how often to drain the tank. Depends on how much air you compress whenever you use it & relative humidity. Unless you have a huge volume tank, it should cost that much to refill it every time you blow out the water. If I where you I'd blow it out, the tank will rust. How long will it take to perforate the tank who knows?
waswestkan 4 weeks ago
@waswestkan Agree with you waswestkan, it is just a matter of personal preference
lectricgenius 4 weeks ago
@waswestkan You can buy an auto drain (120 vac Solenoid) and set it to 1 sec every 45 min, you will minimize air loss and reduce condensate within the wet receiver, you should never have to blow out the whole tank. Condensation all depends on inlet ambient air temp and RH, cont...
purelife500ml 3 weeks ago
@purelife500ml it also depends on the pump, some pumps create more HOC, I also depents on what pressure you have it set to, generally if you are using it with tools u will set the tank to 175psig and have a drier and a reg on the outlet, reg it down to 90-100, doing this will minimize cylcle rates, drying the air will lower the dewpoint to prevent airlines from condensing, also depending on the sitch you could add a filter and and oiler on hose outlet and tool inlet.
purelife500ml 3 weeks ago
the air compressor and the battery charger are the two most useful tools a man can have in my opinion.
rhigh100 1 year ago
@rhigh100 Yes they are, but I have many more that r just as useful as they are.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@lectricgenius if you are like me you try to take advantage of every tool you can get your hands on. but i use my air compressor and battery charger almost every day here on my small farm. couldn't make it without them.
rhigh100 1 year ago
@rhigh100 Yes, that is definitely like how I used to be before my stroke and ms. I also live on a farm, but we rent it out to my ucle now.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@lectricgenius I'm a stroke survivor as well. I have 6 rural acres, with a nice shop. Sadly with the financial difficulties that came I'm in danger of loosing it all 18 years post stroke. But I managed longer than I though it
waswestkan 4 weeks ago
@waswestkan Yea man, it can definitely be tough, but wuts worse for me is I have MS on top of havinf the stroke
lectricgenius 4 weeks ago
i want to build one now....
animagus333 1 year ago
@animagus333 Go ahead, it's not too hard actually.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@kd5gua Thanks man.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
Did you put a condensation drain in the bottom of the air tank? It's important to drain water from the tank every day.
borderraven 1 year ago
No, I did not. I guess I didn't have the time etc. I figure that if I drain the water out every week, that will be good enough.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@borderraven Yes, it already had a bung hole, so I got that covered.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@lectricgenius, put a petcock or small ball valve down there. Crack it open just enough to let the water out, but leave the oil in.
btw -- I only learned about this in the US Navy, because as a shop supervisor it was my job to check it every morning.
borderraven 1 year ago
@borderraven The bung works just fine for me. I know all about this stuff and did not even have to go in the navy to find it out. I just wish everyone here on youtube would realize that I am no dummy, in fact I am probably smarter than 95% of the people on here. Yet, they feel the need to tell me stuff such as this, which I have known for years, long before youtube, the internet etc. I just wish people would realize this before they post a stupid comment.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
@lectricgenius, as intelligent as I think I am, I'm never ashamed to be educated, and happy to have educated others.
Enjoy your shop works.
borderraven 1 year ago
@borderraven I do not mind being educated either, in fact I enjoy it. The only problem for me is that I rarely, and seldom get educated by any of the comments that anyone ever gives me on my videos. See, I do not put a video on here unless I know 100% for sure that I know everything there is to know about a particular subject. The closest I can come to not knowing what I am talking about is in my videos about MS. But I feel that no one else knows about this disease either, doctors included.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
I think you need to keep things in proportion, so I propose that your next air compressor project run with a V8 mounted on top, with really loud exhaust. Perhaps then, and only then will you finally be able to power that badass impact wrench.
DavesTreeFarm 1 year ago
@DavesTreeFarm It might be fun to do and become quite the talk of the town. But, I feel as it works fine the way it is.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
sorry i mean 1 phase not i lol
67tr876 1 year ago
@67tr876 What exactly do you mean?
lectricgenius 1 year ago
1 phase with that ? must be a lot of amps. to bad you dont have 3 phase. But you can get a VFD and that can take in 230 i phase you give you 3 phase but you have to mach it with your motor HP.
67tr876 1 year ago
@67tr876 Well, there would not be much advantage to having three phase. See, the total power is what matters, and although it would draw less amperage, you would then have three phases. The only advantage would be wire size, but unless you have the three phase VFD mounted right next to your panel, you would gain nothing. See I am an electrical engineer, and am well versed in three phase, single phase power, as well as VFDs and power electronics.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
Hi I am Peter from Ireland, let me say Im into all stuff mechanical too and you made a fine job of that Air Compressor, one thing though if I were you I would give the whole unit a lick of Oxide Paint (stops rust) then paint it engeneering Green, and as for working it in the fields you could mount a 4 stroke petrol lawnmower motor to it in place of the 1hp electric motor then it would be truely portable, nice work though
Oglaigh32 1 year ago
@Oglaigh32 Well, first of all, It's a 10hp motor not a 1hp as you have stated. And yes, I could mount a 10hp gasoline motor to it, but I do not think I will. Just having it hooked up like I do is plenty, especially with the 500 gal propane tank as my reserve. You can do a lot with it, that's for sure.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
is there any way to put something on it to shut the motor off when it reachs the max amount or air?
jeromeb619 1 year ago
@jeromeb619 Of course. And it has the apparatus on it to run it with a gas motor as well.
lectricgenius 1 year ago
even with just the head you should be able to provide enough air to run an impact. maybe not a 1 inch but 3/4 or half
i have a 30 gallon with 9 cfm at 90 psi head it charges and runs air tools at the same time.. so in reality if your not using a large 1 inch to remove tires when i was working on tractor trailers for a living we only used a 80 gallon tank with 10 hp motor worked fine
IRONMAIDENFAN2006 2 years ago
Try an inch and a half impact sometime! Most compressors cant even run one I tell ya. So yes, I'm using a huge inch and a half.
lectricgenius 2 years ago
thats a ton of air just to be using it on a dozer here and there...im sure it lasts you a long time before it kicks in huh
IRONMAIDENFAN2006 2 years ago
Basically, yes, you're right. But when your using the impact, well that's another story. Good thing I got this compressor, because I couldn't run my impact otherwise. But, whenever I am painting a car, or the like, it does not run very often and does take a while to 'kick'.
lectricgenius 2 years ago
12 hp i wonder what his monthly bill on that is lol thats good for sand blasting whole cars
IRONMAIDENFAN2006 2 years ago
I don't use it that much, so the power bill is not too bad. I would say you could definitely sandblast a car, but I haven't used it for that. Basically, I have used it for working on the dozer primarily.
lectricgenius 2 years ago
that is one freakin sick compressor you rock'
i would love to have something like that
paul16731 2 years ago
Thank you, its good to be appreciated!!!
lectricgenius 2 years ago
For the field, if you really need alot of air, buy a used hydrovane with a 4cyl engine. I bought one for $1500 and I have 150CFM at 120PSI, that is enough air to run 30+ impact wrenches at the same time. That is a good stationary compressor, but I think you would not find it very usefull for field work. If you put that pump on your friends 60GAL tank I bet he would never run out if air either. Tanks are just for burst pressure and to reduce the startup times of the pump.
mythril4 2 years ago
I hate to tell you, but I know exactly what the tank is for. After all, I am an engineer for christ's sakes! And that would be an engineer with tons of real world experience! just love how everyone than me and they have something to prove..
lectricgenius 2 years ago
@lectricgenius
Ok then, not proving anything really, and I talk to alot of people that know nothing about compressors. I really have no idea what type of person I am talking to. I just was thinking it must be kind of hard to take in the field.
I am an engineer my self, but I don't lay claim that I don't come up with some questionable ideas sometimes.
No need to be offended as it was not my intention.
It is YouTube, what do you expect?
mythril4 2 years ago
Well, you might as well say that you are talking to a real know it all. From electronics to heavy equipment, I've worked on all since I was old enough to.
I might should offer an apology here too. You see, I just got out of the hospital from a basal ganglia stroke. And I tell you, that's nothing to mess with. I couldnt even communicate on here just a few weeks ago. I still cannot walk...it's been a tough fight with many more to come.
lectricgenius 2 years ago
@lectricgenius
We would probibly get along great if I lived there (where ever there is). I hope you recover from the stroke, would hate for you not to be able to keep building things.
I am the same way, since I could hold a tool I worked on and built things.
I can build or repair just about anything now and I am always looking for thing's I don't yet know.
Good luck and hope you get better soon.
mythril4 2 years ago
stick an ol' wheelbarrow up there, upside-down "till ya get to it" :-) maybe even an old truck camper-shell topper, that's what I'd do, anyhow :-/ great compressor, man :-)
you guys "have all the right stuff"
hardwares1 2 years ago
good clear thinking *and* VERY nice air compressor! 12hp single phase motor? that motor -alone- must'a cost somebody a -fortune-. hope you got some sort of shield, or 'portable roof' you put over the compressor head and motor, to heep the rain off...
LLuE88, I guess lectricgenius just loads the compressor into a truck for field work, and runs the tools off the air IN the tank. it is, after all, a two-stage 175 psi setup...with a -huge- tank :-)
just 'my guess' anyway :-)
hardwares1 2 years ago
hardwares, you are on the right track. I load it onto a trailer and away I go. I plan to build a roof over it, just never have gotten to it. And yes, I think the motor cost me about $1000 or so. Originally I managed to salvage a motor from a grain bin fan, but it only lasted a few months before I had to shell out some money.
lectricgenius 2 years ago
Well, the thing is with a 500 gallon pad of air you can do a lot. My friend uses a 60 gallon air tank and takes it out in the field and we managed to change out a final drive on a john deere combine with it (I was shocked). So, I am not figuring to power it up, merely pump it up at the shop and take it out in the field. I am certain I can do a lot with the volume I have. If need be, I can simply bring it back and fill it up again!
lectricgenius 2 years ago
@lectricgenius, I have done quite a few jobs in the field by doing that with my Craftsman compressor with a 30 gallon tank. You can't run a die grinder or such high cfm tool for long on a 30 gallon tank, but it will turn impacts and air ratchet wrenches quite a few times around on one fill.
kd5gua 1 year ago
When you take this unit into the field, what will be the motor? I'm assuming it's 220 single phase electric at about 5 hp minimum?. For gasoline engine what will you use? I have a similar situation developing around a compressor that looks to be slightly smaller.
Regards
LLuE88 2 years ago
I am sorry I didn't get back with you sooner-- I didn't realize u had asked me a question. Honestly, I simply pump up the tank and take it from the shop. If I'm doing something that requires a lot of air, I jusy drive back to the shop and hook it back up and let it pump up.
lectricgenius 2 years ago