Comparison of how two different pres. would have reacted to 9/11
Bush: "We will hunt down this evil. We will not allow these terrorists to defeat us."
Obama: "It is not politically correct to call these peaceful men terrorists. They are good-meaning people who are misunderstood, and we have no business calling them terrorists. I am pleased to tell you that I am going to see Osama to apologize for America's racism."
the sad thing is everyone is so busy with their lives. they dont see the big picture, just their own life and friends and family. people dont realize that we are being played. not unless it directly affects their life. people are just comfortable in their own little lives and afraid to do anything about this issue. there will be a time one someone rises to the occasion and gets everyone together. its as much our fault this happened as it is the people who run it if none of us do anything aboutit
Ya he visto varios videos al respecto y tema, de lo que me doy cuenta es que en muchisimos videos existe una manipulación musulmana directa en contra de occidente, de la cultura occidental y de los cristianos. Me huele fuertemente a manipulación pre-belica y propaganda musulmana, incluso incluyen palabras y conceptos como djinn "demonios-genios del desierto hechos de fuego" que nada tienen que ver con la sociedad occidental. Una forma de minar al estado
Ya he visto varios videos al respecto y tema, de lo que me doy cuenta es que en muchisimos videos existe una manipulación musulmana directa en contra de occidente, de la cultura occidental y de los cristianos. Me huele fuertemente a manipulación pre-belica y propaganda musulmana, incluso incluyen palabras y conceptos como djinn "demonios-genios del desierto hechos de fuego" que nada tienen que ver con la sociedad occidental.
quit comparing george bush to hitler, hitler was a disgrace who was thankfully stopped, bush was a president who racked up debt...yes there were coffins, EVERY WAR HAS DEATH
@atheistsdontexist the reason he is like Hitler is he killed innocent people in Iraq...Wiki Leaks shows hundreds of videos showing our troops killing kids, camera men, and civilians who had no part of saddoms radical military. Osama was the master mind of 9/11 and the leader of Al-Quada which had no part of Iraq or Saddom. If we spent as much time looking for Osama as we did Saddom we would have killed him during the Bush years. Bush was too dam interested in a pointless war.
i hate how fake america is the contrast alone between rich and poor in Hollywood is to sad to even cry for. American Dream my ass American Lie. And i hate lying bastards to the bone, im so glad i got out in the world and found out the majority of the people agree with me. don't let tv, celebs judge your mind. THINK and see.
Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some even say they hear, do it.
George Bush is the reincarnation of Hitler just more retarded. Hitler did have good ideas before he lost his fucking mind. His plan to help improve the post ww1 economy was good but once he started brainwashing everyone and commited genocide, he became the monster. Bush was no different. He killed thousands and wasted billions on a senseless lie.
my friend, you made a VERY BIG MISTAKE. dont use the swastika to pinpoint bush, there is NO CONNECTION WITH THIS . hitler at least, nomater how sick his ideas were(maybe not so sick at the end), he had a vision, idealism, plan, and love for his country above all. the animal called bush has none of the above, just that he is sick with power. thanks
@dinoaxd Bush is a Fascist, therefore its very easy to draw a link between Bush his families fascist beliefs are generational. Fascist have been in control of our country for some time. The symbol of the fasci is even in our congress. Fascism is a combination government and corporate control over people.
The debt when George W. Bush took office was $5.727 Trillion when he left it was $10.627 Trillion. The total debt that George W accumulated in eight years of office is $4.9 Trillion The debt right now is $13.736 Trillion. In approximately 666 days in office, he has accumulated $3.066 Trillion. Using simple algebra you'll find by Dec 2011, Obama will have accumulated more debt in three years than George W. did in 8 years.
@FreedomInAmerica bush and obama are puppets of the same master, the american people got tired of watching the cowboy so he was put in the box and the african american one was taken out to settle the children, and get them ready for another fairytale, and so on it goes this ride we are all on, some of us enjoy the ride cos we got lots of money to spend on other rides if we don;t like this one ,some have no money so can't afford to ride, others don't want to get on cos they know where its going
wtf is peoples problems bush didnt do shit he didnt declare war or anything the president has no power the legislative branch and the judicial branch do all the president can do is tell people laws and veto laws so bush didnt start a war in iraq or anything he just got to say a war has been declared
THIS IS 8TH GRADE HISTORY YOU DUMB FUCKS BUSH DIDNT START SHIT SO STOP HATING HIM out of all the presidents he was the smartest and had the best college degree in buisness GOD
@oi8foru2 Bush has the lowest IQ out of our last 11 presidents at the very least probly out of all of them do you reserch befor you make claims of someones intellegance
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the bush family helped Hitler but when he failed..... the bush family took over and is trying to take over the world seriously.. G. bush is all about the Illuminati and evil / devil. and now that G. bush has failed but still trying.. Obama is taking over... the Illuminati is going to take over the world and there is nothing we can do.. we can't go to the police because they don't give a fuck and won't believe us.. there is nothing we can do... they are all evil and we are all fucked.
@BoNkErZchloe22 no im canadian but all i see is u making bs out of thin air but i do agree that bush might've had some linkage with the 9/11 attack but we cant be sure but come on about the hitler thing seriously quit making up bs.
If you hate Bush, please please, look into how Obama is so like Bush. Bush is just a puppet, same with Obama. Look behind to puppets to find the really evil fucks.
thers no doubt he fucked up pretty big not sure he caused the banking collapse but the hole goin in to iraq for wmd s was bullshit how many lives have been lost to find nothin.the blood is on his hands.dont even buy the hole 911 osama bin laden bizo hole story dodgy as good luck usa
humanity is running off a cliff in a cart. Barrack obama and his illuminati owners are pushing it. hopefully someone gets out and pulls the brakes before everyone dies. Tbh though, I couldnt give a fuck. Let everyone die, thats their right. They have brains too, to each his own. If you want to believe in god and that government is good, go ahead. but nobody is going to save you. the sooner humans are destroyed the better, for the universes sake.
this is so sad,god dont exists u just think it exist cuz ur parents are telling u that he exists,u got the point for bush but all seeing eye is reptillianilluminati u moron....u christians r fucked up real good with ''god''....what about -illuminati REWRITING history,it is all just they mind control,they want u to belive in god....there r so many evidences and logically conclusion that your god dont exists......loser
Both his dad and he were corrupt as hell. I'm not gonna put em in a corner, but both were in Skull & bones and were quite clever extremists of satanism.
You've got something wrong with you. Its one thing not to like George Bush. But the swastika showed a lack of judgment and maturity. Reading your rant, I think you like to hear yourself talk. You should be ashamed of yourself.
no, probablY not. was your grandpa an internationaL oil-carteL occuLt Luciferian free-mason>
i think not. the bu$h family bLoodLine connects to nazi fascism...when you are this famous(as the bush famiLy) you cannot get out of it. the bush famiLy bloodline connects to the PISOS of itaLia and to the RAMSES of ancient egypt.
@CastAway421 I don't think my post showed any pain. But, your initial comment and your response indicates a lack of maturity and judgment. You reach for words that give you the biggest emotional kick. I doubt you could ever actually be involved in politics.
Why aren't you damning Roosevelt's WWII? He was a Democrat and he sent many times more troops to war! That war was quite long too! Compare lives lost, then you'll realize that Bush is not a Nazi What about the camps they put the Japaneese in during WWII? You Fail in your comparison.
From other vids. you posted, you are no Christian. (At least not one that's likely to go up in this state of mind... ...if you know what I mean).
Go to my channel and see a recent, extremely hard hitting interview on the absolute fraud and danger of vaccines -- and about a simple tool to viralize the truth about vaccines. The more people that know the truth, the harder it will be to force these vaccines on those of us that would rather put our trust in God, eating right, our own immune systems, natural remedies, faith & prayer -- rather than on Big Pharma and their veritable witches brews.
Why do you hate bush? Oh right because you are a dumb hick. I bet you were supporting him when the war started. Just because the war didn't end in a year doesn't mean you should go blame it on bush.....
The sad fact is Bush and men like him are only lieutenants to higher powers that give them orders to impliment.The commitee of 300 by Dr Coleman is a must read America is being destroyed from within.
well are they actually comparing george bush with hitler??? i don't remember george bush killing millions of people but i do know that hitler killed millions of people
Both Hitler and Bush serve the same hidden agenda(1000 Year Reich). They both manipulated the population via false flag operation in order to be backed by the ppl while invading an innocent country. If you do your research you would know that George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush had very close ties with Hitler and his colleagues. need I say more?
No, Bush killed hundreds of thousands, including women, children, and babies with his war for oil. Bush also took away rights of the U.S. people. He said same quotes as Hitler, "You are either with us or against us", and is as much a part of Satan as Hitler was. Anyone that stands up for him deserves to rot in hell as Bush surely will.
lol, for some percievers I guess it must have been that way. I never have seen Jesus in Obama. You think Jesus(if he'd come back) need voters? or campaining to get ppl to follow him?
Didn't get the Nazi reference. Do you watcha lot of that and equate it to what you see?
Chris Dodd patterned the Nazi guns control laws to fit America. Robert Byrd was a KKK recruiter.
If you research, the Muslim Brotherhood predecessor was organized by Hitler and an associate in the Middle East. Saddam orginazed the Baath (National Socialist) party after Nazism that swept the Muslim world during WWI. I hope I didn't screw your head off, because I won't do your homework for you. Next.
B is not the only criminal responsible for this global mess.
DC and DR are also criminals. If DR visits Germany the authorities have been given the power of arresting him.
Also Paul Wolfivitz an other prominent neocon was head of the world bank. The necons have essentially caused this great economic nightmare and cons,libs libertarians and socialists are all united in believing the last admin was Fascist combinding conservative nationalism with Socialist style big government.
ENGINEERED!! To further "thier"agenda!!(WORLD DOMINATION)last week B.O. was talkin of "need for a world bank".We are on a fast track to a centeralization of power by one govt. "They" are tryn to condense power..i.e. E.U;Pacific Union; and w/"NAFTA.COMIN very soon The North American Union! Don't take my word for it,research for yourself..also check out DAVID ICKE (ON Y-T) ROAD TO FREEDOM.
Protected you from what??......what exactly did he gain by "CAPTURING" saddam?.......all he did was complete his old mans legacy....in retro what the hell did anyone achieve out of invading iraq......no weapons were ever found.....G W bush is the worst dictator since hitler, and was responsible for more political unrest and war on the planet since any of the world wars......Why don;t you F*cking wake up...
Bush was a corporate man true and true that was his whole problem. He thought the corporate answer was the avenue to all questions,values,and business. Well, I guess we saw what the corporate free market model has done this year. It has been the undoing of America and the world. It has been the true evil of our times. Power and Money corrupt and that is what we have been worshiping with our hearts,minds, and morals.
i really hate bush! everyone complains about him, but u dumb asses voted him in for a second term! if n e one is the anti christ it would be him! i don't believe in all this religion junk, but it's pretty funny to see a bunch of people acting stupid b cuz they believe that crap!!!
He was elected via "Tammany Hall style". I don't know anyone that voted for him, local or internet. He did claim his 2nd term before the recounts were finished in Florida, who's governor was little brother JEB BUSH.
ahh, what you talking about. im quite opposed to yer foreign policy at the mo. yer ecconomy has brought the whole western world close to implosion and yer health service is one of the most un equal in the world. infact i think the only contribution the US has given to the world is the ability to turn right on red!! so as you can see im anti-american, yet i am just recently back form the US. the US is on its way off the top spot get ready for a strong, powerful europe at the end of this recession
Health service, yes, I like it also, it is the best
But there is no reason to be anti-US
And as far as contributions, like you said, every other country in the world is riding on our shoulders. And did you forget about World War 1, oh and a little thing called World War 2? USA contribution maybe?
ps I think I would like Ireland, plan to visit one day.
WWI, apart from material suport ya had very little milatry impact.
WWII, yes ye had a more important role to play it would have taken longer for the british to open the western front. but remember that 80% of german troops were fighting russia in the east and still lost. imo i think the only result of yer non involvement would have been that the DDR would have streched as far as the french border.
and you prob would like ireland lovely country v. expencive tho
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all you liberals are seriously dumbasses
do yall really want socialism is America cause all the democrats want the gov't to be in your life and control it and Republicans want you to be as independent as possibly we want small gov't
YES! with Republicans we now have : triple digit inflation, most foreclosure on homes, banks filing bankruptcy, and damn govt bailouts of investment firms, gas prices skyrocketed, unemployment at it's highest level in decades, hatred of other nations of America... and the list goes on and on... Thank God Bush is OUT, but NOT SOON ENOUGH !
@weldone1223 And Obama has fixed it all! I mean unemployment is at what? And the job markets have just rebounded and all the nations of the world love us now! I mean Noth Korea even stopped its nuclear plans, Alquada signed a peace deal! Things have never been better!
dude, the smaller the government, the more power any individual person in the government has. and guess what that leads to! CORRUPTION. democracy is vertualy curroption free. god, why dont you go rant somwhere else, and try learning, everherd of it?
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Watch the movie, Merlin, and Learn Shamanism. Practice Shamanism daily and youll learn how to influence life as they have, if you dont forget george bush and rockefellor, they will never vanish, thats why they fug up or do bad things, so you can not forget them daily, in the end of merlin, they forget the wicked witch and since everyone forgets her, she becomes no more.
Group intent is True, Electrons have been effected by THOUGHT, Changed, Change your thinking, and so will the world, SHAMANISM
now there's a consistent post by littlepoopyjimmy, something you don't often have the privilege to see...well done...and by the way bigblock4door..as more bigblockforbeingsmart I give a shit about what he thinks that's called general knowledge, a luxury it seems you can't afford
Sending soldiers out to die for a failed political policy in a fruitless and unnecessary war because of hubris and the unwillingness to admit having made an awful mistake seems like a fairly serious form of disrespect for the soldiers, too.
i am liberal. Personally, i dont think that the soilders dieing in Iraq are not dieing for are freedom. Also, in the last 10 years what does America stand for? Not giving a crap about the enviorment, base the country on religious values(no gay rights), and take all, even if it is not yours.
Those bastards over there have been fighting forever, so why try to civilize them...it's impossible. First Bush said Iraq had nuclear weapons...didn't find any after going against the UN and declaring war, he made a fool out of himself. Then it was a war to free the people of Iraq,Bullsh--. We have issues in the US that need addressing and the money spent on the useless war could do alot of good here in the States. The world thinks we're a bunch of war mongers because of Bush.
Fighting forever? That's what my parents used to tell me. Sure they fought back and forth in antiquity. So did the European tribes. But while the Europeans were running naked through forests, picking berries and clubbing small furry animals and each other over the head with sticks, the dawn of civilization was occuring in Mesopotamia. Agriculture blossomed, and powerful city-states developed, along with a homogeneous culture and common language.
Therefore it isn't necessary to "civilize" anyone, unless by "civilize" you mean "spread democracy" which amounts to nothing more than the retaliatory destruction of Fallujah, dehumanizing Iraqi citizens, sometimes merely shooting them out of spite and other times raping the children, murdering them and their families, and burning the bodies. I have a PDF doc somewhere on my comp detailing money paid by the US Army to families of innocent Iraqis who were "accidentally" murdered. Now who are
So Roman wars across Europe aren't the same as "fighting forever?" The Frankish (Charlemagne) forcible conversions and wars aren't "fighting forever?" The Reconquista isn't "fighting forever?" The Italian Wars, 65 years of barbaric butchery isn't "fighting forever?" The Hundred Years War? The Thirty Years War? Here, I've developed a study project for you. Find out what the longest stretch of peace in Europe (post-Pax Romana, to make it easier) has been. Germany was peaceful...
...between the Treaty of Versailles and the invasion of Poland, and I don't think you can characterize persecuting Jews as "fighting each other," it was pretty one-sided. So was the longest stretch of peace in post-Roman European history that particular interbellum? Was it between the end of the Franco-Prussian War and WW 1? Or was it the Cold War years? That's a possibility, the Czech and Hungarian insurgencies notwithstanding. Of course in 1990 all hell broke loose as Yugoslavia disintegrated.
The bottom line is, statements like "they have been fighting each other forever" annoy me, as this has been shown to be unimportant. Europe has been fighting each other forever as well. Everyone has. But for 450 years, there was peace in Ottoman Constantinople. For 600 years the Assyrians controlled Babylon. No European capital has experienced such lengthy periods of peace. No other European capital that is, as Istanbul itself is in Europe, though it's populated by those who have been...
Actually, BigBlock4Door, I found the exposition quite gratifying, especially since it is essentially correct. If more so-called "conservatives" would take the time to study history instead of the Bible, perhaps we would have a saner world in which to live.
Sadly, the definition of "conservative" has come to be: "the awful suspicion that someone, somewhere may be having fun". Barry Goldwater must be spinning inn his grave....
and you need a brain transplant or some photosynthesis...maybe you'll evolve from plant stage...I can hardly expect a smart answer from people like...if I can hpe think you're a human:))
all that is left to do for USA is to organize arena fights as romans use to, with prisoners of war...and it will be so cool...the public extasiated by an air-ground-missile laser guided blowing up to bits an islamic capture of war...anything you can think of...americans are very inventive
This is what the dominant political class can obtain from ignorant and unwary people...the kind of indoctrination that never ceased to exist even from the Dark Age. Nothing has changed...the manipulation is even worse...a political system that hides behind a modern society imbued with by this wonderful facade of democracy (a term that doesn't truly exist)....fascinated by it we fail to see the truth...they play ches with our destiny
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want He makes me down to lie Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by With bright knives he releaseth my soul He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places He converteth me to lamb cutlets For lo,m he hath great power and great hunger When cometh the day we lowly ones Through quiet reflection and great dedication Master the art of karate Lo, we shall rise up And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water. Pink Floyd - Sheep
Comparison of how two different pres. would have reacted to 9/11
Bush: "We will hunt down this evil. We will not allow these terrorists to defeat us."
Obama: "It is not politically correct to call these peaceful men terrorists. They are good-meaning people who are misunderstood, and we have no business calling them terrorists. I am pleased to tell you that I am going to see Osama to apologize for America's racism."
shelestijoe47 1 month ago
the sad thing is everyone is so busy with their lives. they dont see the big picture, just their own life and friends and family. people dont realize that we are being played. not unless it directly affects their life. people are just comfortable in their own little lives and afraid to do anything about this issue. there will be a time one someone rises to the occasion and gets everyone together. its as much our fault this happened as it is the people who run it if none of us do anything aboutit
mmuseb 3 months ago
Some of us live a life of luxury, some of us live in misery, some die horrible deaths, we will all have to answer to God in the end.
AudioGuise 4 months ago
,,is a lying murdering dirtbag coward...
wolfdaddy205 5 months ago
Bush is Responsible for Deaths of 84000 Iraqi and Afghan kids
shadowofears 6 months ago
Ya he visto varios videos al respecto y tema, de lo que me doy cuenta es que en muchisimos videos existe una manipulación musulmana directa en contra de occidente, de la cultura occidental y de los cristianos. Me huele fuertemente a manipulación pre-belica y propaganda musulmana, incluso incluyen palabras y conceptos como djinn "demonios-genios del desierto hechos de fuego" que nada tienen que ver con la sociedad occidental. Una forma de minar al estado
arbicom 7 months ago
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Ya he visto varios videos al respecto y tema, de lo que me doy cuenta es que en muchisimos videos existe una manipulación musulmana directa en contra de occidente, de la cultura occidental y de los cristianos. Me huele fuertemente a manipulación pre-belica y propaganda musulmana, incluso incluyen palabras y conceptos como djinn "demonios-genios del desierto hechos de fuego" que nada tienen que ver con la sociedad occidental.
arbicom 7 months ago
quit comparing george bush to hitler, hitler was a disgrace who was thankfully stopped, bush was a president who racked up debt...yes there were coffins, EVERY WAR HAS DEATH
atheistsdontexist 8 months ago
@atheistsdontexist the reason he is like Hitler is he killed innocent people in Iraq...Wiki Leaks shows hundreds of videos showing our troops killing kids, camera men, and civilians who had no part of saddoms radical military. Osama was the master mind of 9/11 and the leader of Al-Quada which had no part of Iraq or Saddom. If we spent as much time looking for Osama as we did Saddom we would have killed him during the Bush years. Bush was too dam interested in a pointless war.
2012thedevil 7 months ago
@atheistsdontexist Bush is far worse than Hitler
shadowofears 7 months ago
i hate how fake america is the contrast alone between rich and poor in Hollywood is to sad to even cry for. American Dream my ass American Lie. And i hate lying bastards to the bone, im so glad i got out in the world and found out the majority of the people agree with me. don't let tv, celebs judge your mind. THINK and see.
zwareshag 9 months ago
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Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some even say they hear, do it.
jamestargetedindiv 10 months ago
George Bush is the reincarnation of Hitler just more retarded. Hitler did have good ideas before he lost his fucking mind. His plan to help improve the post ww1 economy was good but once he started brainwashing everyone and commited genocide, he became the monster. Bush was no different. He killed thousands and wasted billions on a senseless lie.
weirdguy75 11 months ago
my friend, you made a VERY BIG MISTAKE. dont use the swastika to pinpoint bush, there is NO CONNECTION WITH THIS . hitler at least, nomater how sick his ideas were(maybe not so sick at the end), he had a vision, idealism, plan, and love for his country above all. the animal called bush has none of the above, just that he is sick with power. thanks
dinoaxd 1 year ago
@dinoaxd Bush is a Fascist, therefore its very easy to draw a link between Bush his families fascist beliefs are generational. Fascist have been in control of our country for some time. The symbol of the fasci is even in our congress. Fascism is a combination government and corporate control over people.
theyaretheconspiracy 3 months ago
The debt when George W. Bush took office was $5.727 Trillion when he left it was $10.627 Trillion. The total debt that George W accumulated in eight years of office is $4.9 Trillion The debt right now is $13.736 Trillion. In approximately 666 days in office, he has accumulated $3.066 Trillion. Using simple algebra you'll find by Dec 2011, Obama will have accumulated more debt in three years than George W. did in 8 years.
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Allen West 2012
FreedomInAmerica 1 year ago
@FreedomInAmerica bush and obama are puppets of the same master, the american people got tired of watching the cowboy so he was put in the box and the african american one was taken out to settle the children, and get them ready for another fairytale, and so on it goes this ride we are all on, some of us enjoy the ride cos we got lots of money to spend on other rides if we don;t like this one ,some have no money so can't afford to ride, others don't want to get on cos they know where its going
telboyy 11 months ago
Great Song SoaD Is Amazing.
Zaxarbot 1 year ago
Bush will always be one the stupidest humans ever
FantasticKnowledge 1 year ago
wtf is peoples problems bush didnt do shit he didnt declare war or anything the president has no power the legislative branch and the judicial branch do all the president can do is tell people laws and veto laws so bush didnt start a war in iraq or anything he just got to say a war has been declared
THIS IS 8TH GRADE HISTORY YOU DUMB FUCKS BUSH DIDNT START SHIT SO STOP HATING HIM out of all the presidents he was the smartest and had the best college degree in buisness GOD
oi8foru2 1 year ago
@oi8foru2 Bush has the lowest IQ out of our last 11 presidents at the very least probly out of all of them do you reserch befor you make claims of someones intellegance
Dragonmaster0118 1 year ago
@Dragonmaster0118 where did you gt that IQ information?
oldstock1607 1 year ago
Really? whos fault is it that nobody in america has a job?? obama!
baseballsmm 1 year ago
@baseballsmm no shit.
BoNkErZchloe22 1 year ago
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gordinflon232425 1 year ago
the bush family helped Hitler but when he failed..... the bush family took over and is trying to take over the world seriously.. G. bush is all about the Illuminati and evil / devil. and now that G. bush has failed but still trying.. Obama is taking over... the Illuminati is going to take over the world and there is nothing we can do.. we can't go to the police because they don't give a fuck and won't believe us.. there is nothing we can do... they are all evil and we are all fucked.
BoNkErZchloe22 1 year ago
@BoNkErZchloe22 stfu ur a retard dont talk
HISHAM931 1 year ago
@HISHAM931 lol alrighty, let me guess ur america coz if you are then your just blind.
BoNkErZchloe22 1 year ago
@BoNkErZchloe22 no im canadian but all i see is u making bs out of thin air but i do agree that bush might've had some linkage with the 9/11 attack but we cant be sure but come on about the hitler thing seriously quit making up bs.
HISHAM931 1 year ago
@HISHAM931 okay if you look in to all this stuff for as long as i have you would know what i am talking about. End of story.
BoNkErZchloe22 1 year ago
@BoNkErZchloe22 ya watever go cry about it
HISHAM931 1 year ago
@HISHAM931 haha, okay love.
BoNkErZchloe22 1 year ago
If you hate Bush, please please, look into how Obama is so like Bush. Bush is just a puppet, same with Obama. Look behind to puppets to find the really evil fucks.
RyanR3volution 1 year ago
_!_
mlun8mlun 1 year ago
Awkward....
prepschoolkid 1 year ago
"The Upside-Down Star: Is suppose to represent Jesus Christ and is Called the Morning Star. " ...err actually thats satan's nick name in the bible
severedfate 1 year ago
I'm the Anti-Christ duh... all these people are just to stupid to be the Anti-Christ.
ahampster2 1 year ago
thers no doubt he fucked up pretty big not sure he caused the banking collapse but the hole goin in to iraq for wmd s was bullshit how many lives have been lost to find nothin.the blood is on his hands.dont even buy the hole 911 osama bin laden bizo hole story dodgy as good luck usa
thedoctor69able 1 year ago
You'd LOVE my channel! Prescott S Bush, his father, was one of the "elite" NYC financiers of Nazi Germany, but I guess you knew that.
Monica1C3 1 year ago
humanity is running off a cliff in a cart. Barrack obama and his illuminati owners are pushing it. hopefully someone gets out and pulls the brakes before everyone dies. Tbh though, I couldnt give a fuck. Let everyone die, thats their right. They have brains too, to each his own. If you want to believe in god and that government is good, go ahead. but nobody is going to save you. the sooner humans are destroyed the better, for the universes sake.
beastlymw2 1 year ago
this is so sad,god dont exists u just think it exist cuz ur parents are telling u that he exists,u got the point for bush but all seeing eye is reptillianilluminati u moron....u christians r fucked up real good with ''god''....what about -illuminati REWRITING history,it is all just they mind control,they want u to belive in god....there r so many evidences and logically conclusion that your god dont exists......loser
999Nikola999 1 year ago
nazi
MrJai800 1 year ago
Both his dad and he were corrupt as hell. I'm not gonna put em in a corner, but both were in Skull & bones and were quite clever extremists of satanism.
sybow 1 year ago
Bush was a fool, but Socialists are far worse. They will destroy society.
warriorprince1010 1 year ago
american dream denial... yeah... really, i agree
damagejackal1 1 year ago
You've got something wrong with you. Its one thing not to like George Bush. But the swastika showed a lack of judgment and maturity. Reading your rant, I think you like to hear yourself talk. You should be ashamed of yourself.
YoTengoCorazon 1 year ago
swastika with george bush makes sense, for george bushs' grandPa prescoTT heLped funneL funds for the nazis'///
tomcornhole 1 year ago 7
my grandpa was arrested for stealing ... I must be a thief too
lakerfan198126 1 year ago
@lakerfan198126 well, there's a BIT more to the story. i mean, they're ALL "nazis'" if not,perhaps in the literaL sense.
they have a "nazi" mentaLity. PLus, they COLLUDE with known nazis.
aLL three (prescott,Herbrt,and georgie) are reprehensible individuals
and deserve NO CODDLING or whitewashing of their crimes against humanity.
period.
tomcornhole 1 year ago
@tomcornhole Then the same goes for Pres. John F. Kennedy - because his father was a nazi supporter too.
MetalDetroit 1 year ago
no, probablY not. was your grandpa an internationaL oil-carteL occuLt Luciferian free-mason>
i think not. the bu$h family bLoodLine connects to nazi fascism...when you are this famous(as the bush famiLy) you cannot get out of it. the bush famiLy bloodline connects to the PISOS of itaLia and to the RAMSES of ancient egypt.
use your mind and your eyes. you wiLL see. read.
tomcornhole 1 year ago
@tomcornhole And JFK's father helped the nazis too - what is your point. Hitler was very popular around the world until he started a world war.
MetalDetroit 1 year ago
@MetalDetroit the point is that the REICH lives on.
are you offended? america is the Fifth Reich. or fourth, i don't remember.
Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, all nazi-symapathizers. what IS the point, indeed!
tomcornhole 1 year ago
@tomcornhole congratulations for the incoherant posting of the day - just what is YOUR point ?
MetalDetroit 1 year ago
@MetalDetroit you are welcome,and you spelled incoherent
incorrectly.
tomcornhole 1 year ago
@YoTengoCorazon Truth hurts ahh?
CastAway421 1 year ago
@CastAway421 I don't think my post showed any pain. But, your initial comment and your response indicates a lack of maturity and judgment. You reach for words that give you the biggest emotional kick. I doubt you could ever actually be involved in politics.
YoTengoCorazon 1 year ago
@YoTengoCorazon He was,IS a mad man and dumb as a box of rocks...a swastika fits perfect for him and Cheney..Sorry you don't like it..
CastAway421 1 year ago
@YoTengoCorazon scheiss bush scheiss usa scheiss nazi
pumukel83 1 year ago
you. are. a. moron.
Sabingau87 2 years ago
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Ghostfactory1 2 years ago
lol this is ridiculous
DirtyAnchovey 2 years ago
@DirtyAnchovey your ridiculous
catbomb1 2 years ago
bush is quilty of killing of american solediers
Islamisinnocent 2 years ago
You are guilty of killing that sentence.
MikeDevaney 1 year ago
omfg at 21 seconds that was kinda freaky
BIGBALLENSTALLEN 2 years ago
is that reely him flippin me off
diaz1996abel 2 years ago
whats the song name???
yodog123ryan 2 years ago
System Of A Down - A.D.D.
Ilovegamegothic3 2 years ago
Google Prescott Bush George W Grandpappy. Convicted of laundering money for the Nazis.
Igentenos 2 years ago
Why aren't you damning Roosevelt's WWII? He was a Democrat and he sent many times more troops to war! That war was quite long too! Compare lives lost, then you'll realize that Bush is not a Nazi What about the camps they put the Japaneese in during WWII? You Fail in your comparison.
From other vids. you posted, you are no Christian. (At least not one that's likely to go up in this state of mind... ...if you know what I mean).
games1004 2 years ago
HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO COMPARE BUSH TO HITLER?!?!? now, im no bush supporter, but how do you compare these two?!?
keeman4454 2 years ago
check out his speech when he was announcing Homeland Security after 9/11
almost the exact same words when Hitler announced the Gestapo to the Germans.
starts with "There is an evil...."
american people can now be detained indefinately without a reason given, their homes searched while you're not even home
sounds like Nazi practises
hopefully America will wake up in 10 years, but they will never forgive themselves for allowing this and neither will the rest of the world
whatsupwiththat6 2 years ago
W199i and Bush thermite Global Hawk
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dconrad000 2 years ago
Why do you hate bush? Oh right because you are a dumb hick. I bet you were supporting him when the war started. Just because the war didn't end in a year doesn't mean you should go blame it on bush.....
TheMecob3 2 years ago
dumb hick? youre the one supporting bush.
bluexoddysee 2 years ago
The sad fact is Bush and men like him are only lieutenants to higher powers that give them orders to impliment.The commitee of 300 by Dr Coleman is a must read America is being destroyed from within.
cetnikz 2 years ago
im suprised many conspiracists dont all call obama the anti christ because of the whole 2012 elections and such
baconstory 2 years ago
es un asesino
tamaragm1984 2 years ago
Bush isn't the most intelligent man in the world.. But saying he's a nazi??? How dumb are people watching youtube now a days?
glitch417 2 years ago
what song.?
crappieya 2 years ago
do you guys realize how stupid bush is?
yassin166 2 years ago
we lived through tyranny under 8 years of this asshole people. Glad he is gone
666bushisnazi666 2 years ago
dumb and evil person-true domestic enemy
pedro270569 2 years ago
bush i bicth dumb ass
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this a load of shit
50yk4br0n 2 years ago
explain
TheAnuKilla 2 years ago
well are they actually comparing george bush with hitler??? i don't remember george bush killing millions of people but i do know that hitler killed millions of people
50yk4br0n 2 years ago
Both Hitler and Bush serve the same hidden agenda(1000 Year Reich). They both manipulated the population via false flag operation in order to be backed by the ppl while invading an innocent country. If you do your research you would know that George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush had very close ties with Hitler and his colleagues. need I say more?
TheAnuKilla 2 years ago
50yk4br0n,
No, Bush killed hundreds of thousands, including women, children, and babies with his war for oil. Bush also took away rights of the U.S. people. He said same quotes as Hitler, "You are either with us or against us", and is as much a part of Satan as Hitler was. Anyone that stands up for him deserves to rot in hell as Bush surely will.
animation3dfx 2 years ago
bush was hitler that's why we voted for obama who was jesus but then he turned into hitler just like bush.
fedtheend 2 years ago
lol, for some percievers I guess it must have been that way. I never have seen Jesus in Obama. You think Jesus(if he'd come back) need voters? or campaining to get ppl to follow him?
TheAnuKilla 2 years ago
How is bush a nazi? What about Obama? Hes closer to hitler than bush is.
lxKazxl 2 years ago
why obama? explain it?
yassin166 2 years ago
why are you comparing ww2 to 9/ll and bush
there very different things and we are not nazis
BrandonMerchantnet 2 years ago
shit! this vid is trying to brain wash me! FFFFUUUUUU
wayness5 2 years ago
"Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere"
Pyco0I0uJI 2 years ago
Why do people have to bring religion into this shit?!
Fools pray, men fight, cowards laugh!
FindlaySucks 2 years ago
Christian white nation
pietie78 2 years ago
卐 Is the force of gravity electricity generation, d 卍
a661333 2 years ago
racist?
ShawnT93 2 years ago
Didn't get the Nazi reference. Do you watcha lot of that and equate it to what you see?
Chris Dodd patterned the Nazi guns control laws to fit America. Robert Byrd was a KKK recruiter.
If you research, the Muslim Brotherhood predecessor was organized by Hitler and an associate in the Middle East. Saddam orginazed the Baath (National Socialist) party after Nazism that swept the Muslim world during WWI. I hope I didn't screw your head off, because I won't do your homework for you. Next.
mykol13v 2 years ago
love it
harj44 2 years ago
B is not the only criminal responsible for this global mess.
DC and DR are also criminals. If DR visits Germany the authorities have been given the power of arresting him.
Also Paul Wolfivitz an other prominent neocon was head of the world bank. The necons have essentially caused this great economic nightmare and cons,libs libertarians and socialists are all united in believing the last admin was Fascist combinding conservative nationalism with Socialist style big government.
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What a stupid waste of a fucking video.
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semaz94 2 years ago
How did he get elected not once but TWICE??!! Obama has a huge task to repair the damage.
geraymond79 3 years ago
G.B. jr. was'nt elected,he was (as w/ B.O.)
SELECTED!! This "economic-crisis" (was)
ENGINEERED!! To further "thier"agenda!!(WORLD DOMINATION)last week B.O. was talkin of "need for a world bank".We are on a fast track to a centeralization of power by one govt. "They" are tryn to condense power..i.e. E.U;Pacific Union; and w/"NAFTA.COMIN very soon The North American Union! Don't take my word for it,research for yourself..also check out DAVID ICKE (ON Y-T) ROAD TO FREEDOM.
jiwbink 2 years ago 4
If it wasn't for George Bush, we would of got
attacked on our own land!
He protected us and captured Saddam!
Shut up and face the truth!
Obama will never do anything good for us.
mattskateboard91 3 years ago
Protected you from what??......what exactly did he gain by "CAPTURING" saddam?.......all he did was complete his old mans legacy....in retro what the hell did anyone achieve out of invading iraq......no weapons were ever found.....G W bush is the worst dictator since hitler, and was responsible for more political unrest and war on the planet since any of the world wars......Why don;t you F*cking wake up...
capokhatpin 2 years ago
Bush was a corporate man true and true that was his whole problem. He thought the corporate answer was the avenue to all questions,values,and business. Well, I guess we saw what the corporate free market model has done this year. It has been the undoing of America and the world. It has been the true evil of our times. Power and Money corrupt and that is what we have been worshiping with our hearts,minds, and morals.
jobedied 3 years ago
THAT WAS GREAT!!!
isiah2die4 3 years ago
George Bush is a crypto-Jew. He has been the greatest asset that Israel ever had in the White House.
OrderOfTheFascist 3 years ago
i really hate bush! everyone complains about him, but u dumb asses voted him in for a second term! if n e one is the anti christ it would be him! i don't believe in all this religion junk, but it's pretty funny to see a bunch of people acting stupid b cuz they believe that crap!!!
kittenpaws07 3 years ago
He was elected via "Tammany Hall style". I don't know anyone that voted for him, local or internet. He did claim his 2nd term before the recounts were finished in Florida, who's governor was little brother JEB BUSH.
admiralcrash1 3 years ago
what song is this?
woly265 3 years ago
Bush is a traitor and should be executed (after a free and open and fair trail, of course). I am not an advocate of breaking the law.
buddhabreath 3 years ago
Did a Armenian post this? These anti-Americans are sure lucky they don't come to the U.S.A. ... System of a down was a perfect choice for this video
anti-America Armenian terrorists!
StrongNblind 3 years ago
ahh, what you talking about. im quite opposed to yer foreign policy at the mo. yer ecconomy has brought the whole western world close to implosion and yer health service is one of the most un equal in the world. infact i think the only contribution the US has given to the world is the ability to turn right on red!! so as you can see im anti-american, yet i am just recently back form the US. the US is on its way off the top spot get ready for a strong, powerful europe at the end of this recession
crochford8988 3 years ago
crochford8988
Foreign policy, no doubt
Health service, yes, I like it also, it is the best
But there is no reason to be anti-US
And as far as contributions, like you said, every other country in the world is riding on our shoulders. And did you forget about World War 1, oh and a little thing called World War 2? USA contribution maybe?
ps I think I would like Ireland, plan to visit one day.
StrongNblind 3 years ago
johny come lately in both cases.
WWI, apart from material suport ya had very little milatry impact.
WWII, yes ye had a more important role to play it would have taken longer for the british to open the western front. but remember that 80% of german troops were fighting russia in the east and still lost. imo i think the only result of yer non involvement would have been that the DDR would have streched as far as the french border.
and you prob would like ireland lovely country v. expencive tho
crochford8988 3 years ago
too many sheep are posting here, know shit about politics and what the puppet government has done. well you deserve whats coming to you. ejoy :)
sirabbadon 3 years ago
I think Bush is one of the best presidents ever in US.
tummamies 3 years ago 2
@tummamies Get out!
cbsteffen 1 year ago
@tummamies
you should not. he is the devil...
jeanjeanvouslibere 1 year ago
@tummamies and i think hitler never killed any jews
SavetheStarving 1 year ago
@SavetheStarving
he didn't
so say all jews except zionists
lukkbox 1 year ago
You are crazy.
flamablesteve 3 years ago
I'm an athiest but I sincerely hope there is a hell, just for this evil retard's sake.
adehmark 3 years ago
The war crimes tribunal awaits you Mr bush
crackers95 3 years ago
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LilMissEmo13 3 years ago
The people posting this shit are nazi's. All you fucking clueless fucktards need to buy a clue.
zombieco 3 years ago
Bush 4 ever ! Evil is my God !
Paranoyark 3 years ago
SOAD ftw!!!!!!! george bush is a fucking NAZI
Gigity626 3 years ago
i've read ur description thetruthjustice and i totally believe it, what u said is right
there is a lot of false infos
amangonecrazy 3 years ago
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all you liberals are seriously dumbasses
do yall really want socialism is America cause all the democrats want the gov't to be in your life and control it and Republicans want you to be as independent as possibly we want small gov't
AmericansHunting 3 years ago
YES! with Republicans we now have : triple digit inflation, most foreclosure on homes, banks filing bankruptcy, and damn govt bailouts of investment firms, gas prices skyrocketed, unemployment at it's highest level in decades, hatred of other nations of America... and the list goes on and on... Thank God Bush is OUT, but NOT SOON ENOUGH !
weldone1223 3 years ago 3
@weldone1223 And Obama has fixed it all! I mean unemployment is at what? And the job markets have just rebounded and all the nations of the world love us now! I mean Noth Korea even stopped its nuclear plans, Alquada signed a peace deal! Things have never been better!
Albee213 1 year ago
dude, the smaller the government, the more power any individual person in the government has. and guess what that leads to! CORRUPTION. democracy is vertualy curroption free. god, why dont you go rant somwhere else, and try learning, everherd of it?
profotoswindseer 3 years ago
911 psycho faggot
wuts that i said 911psycho is a faggot
punk ass bitch
ScKid15 3 years ago
91psycho faggot
ScKid15 3 years ago
satan will bless bush
911P5ycho 3 years ago
when has being on satan's side EVER paid off ??????????!
glasspig 3 years ago
i feel very sorry for this depraved man...unless this video was meant to be a joke, something i do not doubt
wipeout249 3 years ago
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Watch the movie, Merlin, and Learn Shamanism. Practice Shamanism daily and youll learn how to influence life as they have, if you dont forget george bush and rockefellor, they will never vanish, thats why they fug up or do bad things, so you can not forget them daily, in the end of merlin, they forget the wicked witch and since everyone forgets her, she becomes no more.
Group intent is True, Electrons have been effected by THOUGHT, Changed, Change your thinking, and so will the world, SHAMANISM
RobMonty248 3 years ago
system of a down isnt christian. you dumb fuck!
farleyklown 3 years ago 14
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interesting you used a christian band for the music in the video... now i'm really confused... @__@
BrokenMotherTongue 3 years ago
dont worry your not confused.
your just retarded.
brokenskyy 3 years ago 3
wow someone fell off the slow bus
punk2816460826 3 years ago
now there's a consistent post by littlepoopyjimmy, something you don't often have the privilege to see...well done...and by the way bigblock4door..as more bigblockforbeingsmart I give a shit about what he thinks that's called general knowledge, a luxury it seems you can't afford
ganimede1054 3 years ago
what is this song?
i can definitely hear serj
246trinitrotoluene 3 years ago
dam stupid conservatives
vladimirovk 3 years ago
they are narominded and idiotic! They cant accept that anyone else is right!
funnybonegirl 3 years ago
Liberals disrespect America and everything it stands for..
They also show disrespect for the soldiers who fought and died for their freedom..
Ungrateful swine....
GospelPete 3 years ago
GospelPete,
Sending soldiers out to die for a failed political policy in a fruitless and unnecessary war because of hubris and the unwillingness to admit having made an awful mistake seems like a fairly serious form of disrespect for the soldiers, too.
"Fight for power and glory,
Johnny go to war --
And if a hundred boys should die
We can send in a hundred more...."
(NO TEARS FOR JOHNNY, Tom Springfield)
RAE20351MB 3 years ago
i am liberal. Personally, i dont think that the soilders dieing in Iraq are not dieing for are freedom. Also, in the last 10 years what does America stand for? Not giving a crap about the enviorment, base the country on religious values(no gay rights), and take all, even if it is not yours.
funnybonegirl 3 years ago
Those bastards over there have been fighting forever, so why try to civilize them...it's impossible. First Bush said Iraq had nuclear weapons...didn't find any after going against the UN and declaring war, he made a fool out of himself. Then it was a war to free the people of Iraq,Bullsh--. We have issues in the US that need addressing and the money spent on the useless war could do alot of good here in the States. The world thinks we're a bunch of war mongers because of Bush.
BigBlock4Door 3 years ago 2
Fighting forever? That's what my parents used to tell me. Sure they fought back and forth in antiquity. So did the European tribes. But while the Europeans were running naked through forests, picking berries and clubbing small furry animals and each other over the head with sticks, the dawn of civilization was occuring in Mesopotamia. Agriculture blossomed, and powerful city-states developed, along with a homogeneous culture and common language.
LittlePoopyJimmy 3 years ago
Therefore it isn't necessary to "civilize" anyone, unless by "civilize" you mean "spread democracy" which amounts to nothing more than the retaliatory destruction of Fallujah, dehumanizing Iraqi citizens, sometimes merely shooting them out of spite and other times raping the children, murdering them and their families, and burning the bodies. I have a PDF doc somewhere on my comp detailing money paid by the US Army to families of innocent Iraqis who were "accidentally" murdered. Now who are
LittlePoopyJimmy 3 years ago
the "bastards?"
So Roman wars across Europe aren't the same as "fighting forever?" The Frankish (Charlemagne) forcible conversions and wars aren't "fighting forever?" The Reconquista isn't "fighting forever?" The Italian Wars, 65 years of barbaric butchery isn't "fighting forever?" The Hundred Years War? The Thirty Years War? Here, I've developed a study project for you. Find out what the longest stretch of peace in Europe (post-Pax Romana, to make it easier) has been. Germany was peaceful...
LittlePoopyJimmy 3 years ago
...between the Treaty of Versailles and the invasion of Poland, and I don't think you can characterize persecuting Jews as "fighting each other," it was pretty one-sided. So was the longest stretch of peace in post-Roman European history that particular interbellum? Was it between the end of the Franco-Prussian War and WW 1? Or was it the Cold War years? That's a possibility, the Czech and Hungarian insurgencies notwithstanding. Of course in 1990 all hell broke loose as Yugoslavia disintegrated.
LittlePoopyJimmy 3 years ago
The bottom line is, statements like "they have been fighting each other forever" annoy me, as this has been shown to be unimportant. Europe has been fighting each other forever as well. Everyone has. But for 450 years, there was peace in Ottoman Constantinople. For 600 years the Assyrians controlled Babylon. No European capital has experienced such lengthy periods of peace. No other European capital that is, as Istanbul itself is in Europe, though it's populated by those who have been...
LittlePoopyJimmy 3 years ago 2
..."fighting forever."
LittlePoopyJimmy 3 years ago
You did alot of typing for nothing, Poopy, because nobody gives a shit what you think.
BigBlock4Door 3 years ago
Actually, BigBlock4Door, I found the exposition quite gratifying, especially since it is essentially correct. If more so-called "conservatives" would take the time to study history instead of the Bible, perhaps we would have a saner world in which to live.
Sadly, the definition of "conservative" has come to be: "the awful suspicion that someone, somewhere may be having fun". Barry Goldwater must be spinning inn his grave....
RAE20351MB 3 years ago
God Bless George W. Bush and God Bless America!
GospelPete 3 years ago
God doesn't know GW Bush and God doesn't care about America.
WolverineDeus 3 years ago
ganimet hup se po ta i karin e nons
u need to get fucked up your ass ganimet
1Patrioti 3 years ago
and you need a brain transplant or some photosynthesis...maybe you'll evolve from plant stage...I can hardly expect a smart answer from people like...if I can hpe think you're a human:))
ganimede1054 3 years ago
well truth does hurt...you must be really depressed to find it out these forbidden truths...i can't blame you:)
ganimede1054 3 years ago
all that is left to do for USA is to organize arena fights as romans use to, with prisoners of war...and it will be so cool...the public extasiated by an air-ground-missile laser guided blowing up to bits an islamic capture of war...anything you can think of...americans are very inventive
ganimede1054 3 years ago
This is what the dominant political class can obtain from ignorant and unwary people...the kind of indoctrination that never ceased to exist even from the Dark Age. Nothing has changed...the manipulation is even worse...a political system that hides behind a modern society imbued with by this wonderful facade of democracy (a term that doesn't truly exist)....fascinated by it we fail to see the truth...they play ches with our destiny
ganimede1054 3 years ago
ganimede1054 3 years ago
Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.............................What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream. Pink Floyd - Sheep
ganimede1054 3 years ago