ekajeht has shown that his social skills w people are swearing at them, calling them names, ridiculing & just plain being nasty.
no wonder his name can be found on men's rights discussion forums on the internet, father's rights (i gather if he is a father he lost his right to custody--go figure--& hatred of feminists (women who don't conform to his narrow, disrespecful views on women.
can you say........bitter? oh yes & he likes to threaten people as in 'watch your back'
@canadianskye1964 If anyone doubts that canadianskye is a nut case and a liar ,,,.Check out my home page and look at all her comments that she denies sending!
@ekajeht nutcase yourself. i never denied sending you comments. you are denying you are sending comments to me. just because my channel isn't visible doesn't mean your nasty comments don't reach my inbox or do you have a problem with comprehension?
@canadianskye1964 Get one of your nurses in the looney bin you live in to explain to you that when ever someone replies to you on a video thread= IT GOES TO YOUR INBOX!!!
That way YOU know when someone replies to one of your comments without going to every video to see if there were any replies to you.
careful! - the men in the white coats may put you in a straight-jacket &return you to you padded solitary cell.and then you won't be able to troll from your multi-accounts. i had left specific comments on your channel but there not there anymore! the men in white coats are coming to take you away! you gave yourself away! roflol!
@ekajeht i'm not going to play your games. the fact is you have posted me: every comment posted on this channel has also been via 'send a message' to my inbox
as i don't have a visible message box, you can falsely deny that you posted me.
i've asked you to leave me alone..you have no respect for others as well as for yourself. you are a bully that lowers himself to name calling & nasty messages as a measure of communication.
@canadianskye1964 comment removed -- Hey idiot, even though you remove your comment from this thread ,it still shows up on my inbox page. SO I CAN STILL SEE IT ! LOL You lie so much you forget what you even said , so after you lie you come back an hour later and read what you said and realized that everyone can see you for the lying idiot you are. Sooooooooooo, what do you do? YOU REMOVE YOUR LYING COMMENT !!! LOL Do you really think anyone doesn't know you are a liar and a nut?
about 'it's a woman's body she can do what she wants.' THATS NOT TRUE!! there is a living child in there. this video and other abortion videos are very offensive to me but i watch them anyway becauseit is important for me to get the message out about this issue that i feel very strongly about!
uhm okay. u people are stupid. i am 15 and adopted and very proud of that. anyone who chooses abortion should be put in prison for murder. there is no excuse for it. if two people decide to be stupid and have sex and not use protection, they have to face the consequences. why should a child suffer for two stupid people's actions? and yes the child is alive. it is considered alive from the moment it is conceived. and yes it is alive from the moment it is conceives. and dont give me this crap
pt 3: i am scared: what if i get raped when i am older & am forced to stay pregnant. what will happen to my baby? i sure wish women had never lost the right to have an abortion. i feel more threatened than when women could abort. an aborted baby always had a chance to be reconceied & born into a home where she is truly loved & wanted not just shunted around in adoption. i am tired of being used as a weapon for prolifers.
pt 2: she said she say i will be adopted. i'm scared: what type of home will i be going to. will i be loved or will be hurt? see i am an old soul & the last time i was adopted i was sexually abused by my supposedly loving dad. another girl was molested by a priest & got pregnant.. instead of causing upset in the church, her catholic mom quietly had an abortion-a great sin. but you know what, that baby was relieved to be released from that unhappy pregnancy.
i have read on pro-ife videos about the unborn speaking to their moms(?) here's my take on it.
Pt 1: mommy. i'm really glad you want me, but you know i was talking to another unborn baby when that other mother sat beside you: she said she is scared. her mommy get raped & since she is being forced to be born (by what her mommy called prolifers), she is depressed. they talked her into having the baby & i am feel mommy's depression strongly, she bleeds-i'm scared to be born.
@PALOMITA694 Says=" so you thik it was a good thing Hitler was born?'
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Hmmmmm?
So we murder the next baby because he might be a Hitler ... or a George Washington, or Abe Lincolin , or Thomas Edison, or Alexander Bell or Louis Pasture or your own grand child or...???
So you think it was a mistake not to have murdered these while they were in the womb?
@ekajeht Humans can come with unpredictable characters. Whether they are going to turn good or bad is not what matters what matters is if the woman is willing to give birth to them.
If abortions are legal up to 24 weeks, how can you explain babies surviving premature birth up to 21. When an 8 week old baby in the womb was pricked with a needle he pulled his hand away and opened his mouth to cry out. Abortion exists for convenience, but in reality a truly self-less woman would give her baby life even if she knew she couldn't care for him.
@Sueezee1 you seem very upset about my statement. I'm actually not an idiot at all, and to say I am based on my views on a controversial issue speaks volumes about your own intelligence. I’ve known many people who have been adopted. And it is occasionally hard for them to come to terms with being given up, but despite all this and the hardships they’ve had to endure (everyone has hardships in life) I’ve never heard any of them say they wish they were aborted.
@courtbian89 Speaks volumes about your intelligence / Ive never heard any of them say they wish they were aborted
~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOure actually just kidding w/ that statement, right? Why are you comparing what a living being wants NOW, with a fetus who wouldnt choose ANYthing now OR then, and on top of THAT, attack MY intelligence? life is precious to anyone who is experiencing it as an entity through biographical means. The insanity of you people never ends!
@courtbian89 says: Ive known many people who have been adopted
~~~ Go back to school & learn about stats! Youre few little friends that were adopted do NOT a statistic make! Did you know 44% of adopted males will be imprisoned, compared to 1% of the gen. public. 53 % of adults that were adopted are unemployed . 45% reported living on food stamps . Prevalence of PTSDamong Vietnam veterans: 15% - Prevalence of adopted kids w/ PTSD 25% . 55% experience homelessness. Youre a child abuser
@Sueezee1 I acknowledge its hard for a woman to make the choice to put her baby up for adoption instead of abort, but I think it is the most selfless act to give a baby a chance at life. Mother Theresa once said “it is a poverty that a child must die, so that you may live as you wish”.
~~~~~~~~~ Do you know the defintion of the word "chance"? Its RISK! Youre free to have as many babies as you like and risk their happinees, but dont expecct smart women to follow your lead! pro choicers take risks at the craps tables in Vegas..NOT on a child life!
@Sueezee1 sooo pregnancy is a risk? always? I know its offensive to call pro-choicers "pro-abortionists" but I think that described you perfectly. You don't agree with pro-life or pro-choice per se.. you just don't believe in pro-creation at all, is that an accurate analysis of your views?
@Sueezee1 well by your reasoning who gives a damn about your opinion? Opinions matter, thus the reason for debate. My mother chose life for me 21 years ago, to answer your question about my age. How old are you?
She has a daughter that had an abortion and can't handle the fact that she is a murderer like her own mother.
Sueezee1 also abused the one daughter she didn't murder in the womb and thinks all parents that has a child are as evil ass her and will follow her example of child abuse.
That is why she is so pro-abortion and thinks everyone else is a child abuser.
@courtbian89 8 week embryo in womb pricked w/ needle pulled his hand away and opened mouth to cry
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LOLOL, and 8 week enbryo is half an inch long. Get out your ruler! It has NO mouth that will open, only a pit where the mouth will eventually be. And if it DID move when touched with needle, it would move when touched by its mothers loving hand. Its a reflex, dumbass. AND, how do you know it was opening its mouth to scream? maybe it was yawning.Hahahahahah
adoption and abortion are the same. Women need education on how to read, write, and math and budgetting. Learn that you get pregnant you have the right to carry your pregnancy to term or abort your body not mine. Parent or place. Both abortion and adoption increases depression and suicide rates, first term abortion is the safest out of the 3 options
Do the math, search for the number of couples wanting to adopt. Then, search the number of abortions every year. All the couples would have a baby in a few months, at this point we start throwing them in the ocean? Abortion is birth control....
There are also children in child care NOW that could be adopted, the couples don't want an older child who needs help, they want a fresh one.
it is incredibly difficult to read the colored font in this video but i think the idea is not only can women be sluts... now we can be breeders too...
As an adopted person, I find this video offensive. Are you actually suggesting that my seventeen year old birth mother should have sought to "rent" her body to an adult couple seeking a child at the expense of pro life groups, and that any other circumstances under which an adoption takes place are inappropriate? Well, then, I'm sorry, but you're not really "pro choice," you're pro abortion.
"The pregnant woman is being used to raise the child with her nutrients, etc." ARE YOU FN KIDDING ME??? You pro-choicers are SICK!!!!!!!!! There is NOTHING more selfish than that!
Furthermore women who have already given birth can still get help from the alpha center and its all for FREE! Hows that for help, on one side pro-life groups are spending all their time and money to help women, while abortion clinics take money (who has a womans best interest?). The Alpha center even offers counseling for women who have had abortions, and are struggling with it (a large amount). Giving the gift of life is undeniably the most unselfish and heroic thing a person can do.
I'm not really sure what you wanted to come of this video. I have to clear one thing up, your proposal of pro-life groups (i.e. the Catholic Church) paying for the costs of a woman to choose life already exists. My Aunt volunteers at the Alpha Center where women come in regularly to seek counseling and aid during an unwanted or unexpected pregnancy.
I use to go to church with a couple who is white and they adopted a hispanic baby and also another child who is half white/half african american. Not everyone who is white is racist!
All right, you know, you're right. I shouldn't have said "nobody" wants to adopt a baby that isn't white. There are a few exceptions. But the statistics don't lie: People are begging for white babies, and the black and hispanic babies are languishing, unwanted.
pitts: white couple adopted wh/AfAm child. not everyone is white racist/ And not everyone is ignorant enough to think one white couple adopting one mixed child means that they are all adopted. Learn the stats on non white, mixed, emotionally or mentally damaged kids up for adoption that never get adopted!!
I don't recall saying "one white couple adopting one mixed child means that they are all adopted." You know good and well that's not what I meant. You are just looking for an excuse to be rude to me because I'm pro life. Even though I don't support abortion, I don't think people who do support it are bad people. We simply have different views. I am finished here. I don't mind a friendly debate but I'm not going to respond to people who only mean to provoke others by calling them names and etc.
Username ambrocal aka AcornsArentOaks continues to post obscene pedophile material on youtube.. Please be sure to report this user to youtube and law enforcement and block him from your channels.
Not a whole lot of effort put into trying to prove a proveless point. If a woman is not willing to accept a child into her life, then don't have sex. It's really that simple. No one has died in recent years due to lack of sex. Self-control and responsibility are all that is needed, but some people try to justify the murder of innocent babies in the womb with cries of servitude and stress on the woman. It just haunts you the rest of your life-trust me, I know. But no one cared they just took my $
it's not simple because she has a right to have sex and all unprotected sex doesn't lead to pregnancy. basically, you said don't enjoy your body while you still can even with protected sex, sorry this is not the 1800's.
just because you have a bad abortion doesn't every women would have a bad one as well.
I kind of enjoy the iron of abortion... a terrible and completely selfish act, denying a potential person up to 80 or so years of life just so a woman doesn't have to suffer the 9 month shame of pregnancy, only to result in the even more consuming shame of having aborted her child like a gutless waste.
This is a silly attempt to prove a pointless point. It seems to be done by a teen. Most women who make the decision to have sex are not enslaved, why do we want to take away the consequences of someone who made a poor choice in the first place. It's a good lesson for life, to actually be committed to someone else & look out for someone who is helpless. A lesson that our society needs to learn. Having sex is serious and should be sacred, as well as the babe that comes as a result.
Could not read the words of the video at all. Anyway, robb you have obviously not had to endure an abortion. The pro choice movement have led so many women astray and when they fall apart the supposed pro women supporters are no where to be found. Then the women feel they cannot turn to the prolife movement because of what they have done. Many women today suffer horrible depression because of prochoice. It is not worth it. Look in your heart for the answer, it does not lie.
Hi. I've had an abortion, and it was nothing compared to what enduring pregnancy and childbirth would have been to me. THAT would have been my personal hell. Many women suffer post-partum depression (or psychosis) after giving birth. Funny how you "pro-lifers" always ignore that, given how common it is.
Oh, so in other words, every woman should kill her baby, because she just might suffer from post-partum depression. Hey, how about every woman gets an abortion because, well, the baby might cause us some kind of inconvenience or another.
How's that for a fun strawman? No, honey, the logical conclusion is that, since depression can be caused by either birth or abortion, or pregnancy, or hell, just because someone happens to be prone to depression, it is CLEAR that what might or might not cause depression is only as relevant as the woman involved decides it is. That means it is just as good a reason to abort as it is to not abort, and it is NEVER adequate as an excuse to take the choice out of the WOMAN's hands.
Welcome to a prolifeinternational free YouTube bluedra (he has a new sockpuppet account, against YT rules, but i guess he'll behave now, new account is AbortionKillsBabies).
You really think that troll can help himself? He won't behave. But oh well. He's old news at this point - less bothersome and worthy of notice than a gnat!
Btw did you know your buddy the scumbag ambrocal is one of just 6 "friends" with username "deepfriedfetus666" that also include the VILE pedophile channel and username "letsrapechildren"???
I think you`d be wise to choose your company more carefully and be a tad discerning..otherwise you could be found guilty by association.
ab: ambrocal is one of 6 user names You're a god damned lair...as always ab!!! The time you spend trying to get the people out of here just because you dont agree with them, could be more wisely used to fight the battle...or is that it!! you cant fight the balttle with all the truths from other posters making you look foolish? lol YOU are the one other poster should be afaiid of...VERY afriad!!
The fanatical pro aborts are hopelessly brainwashed and damaged by their own abortion experience..you`re absolutely right that the vast majority of abortions are for mere conveience..babies have (to these tragically hopeless and narcissistic people) become as disposable and worthless as used razor blades..
exactloy bananas....that is what this video sayas... basically a baby is a huge inconvenience and the poor woman will mis her favorite activities for 9 monhts..omg ..imagine that,,,,the horror..this video SUX..abortion kills life...and if you beleive human souls return ..well think about the implications of that......this video shoudl be labled..Give me an abortion so I can still dance and oplay basketball
And "the baby" doesn't always belong to the woman carrying it........in the situation of a surrogate the baby belongs to the family NOT the woman carrying it. And can be forced to have an abortion if the family doesn't think the child is worthy of life!
Pro LIFE Momma to 4..... 3 Bios and 1 adopted child working on the 2nd adoption!!
God is the giver and taker of life. Abortion is stopping God's work. Those who are pro-choice should not call themselves "Christians" Jeremiah 1:5 - "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." The info in this video is far from true.
And it's the same thing with adoption. Throw away the child after you give birth to it. And I thought we had the purpose of unconditional love. What are you thinking!? That quote from Mother Teresa is opposite of the goals Catholicism strives for. And for that, I am against adoption when it comes to settling a reproductive situation.
Unborn does not mean that the baby is not human, and to say that a baby is 'organism in development,' might be your way of desensitizing yourself to the truth, and frankly sad. So when does life begin in your eyes, and whether or not there was joy in creating life, joy can be found in bringing that child into the world and raising them to respect life and all it wonders, good & bad. I hope and pray that you and others with your Obama like views will see that supporting abortion is murder.
Life truly begins when the newborn's umbilical cord is clamped off its body. I know the truth in its complexity. It's more than just seeing it with the eyes, but with a greater sense. Obviously we are alive after we are born. Do you not realize that the fetus is just playing jokes on you? It's really somatic impulses and not controlled movements. You can't support adoption if you argue with love, because there isn't. Catholics use that excuse but they're wrong, using love as reason to childbear.
Life truly begins at the moment of fertilization when the single cell zygote has the DNA that dictates many of the characteristics of this new human being. This is a scientific fact not a joke. The zygote splits into the blastocyst and the embryo, not just any blob of tissue but capable of self-directed development - NOT a part of the mother. Why does the fetus pull away it's arm when the abortionist goes after it to rip it off? I think you would probably do the same.
heroikrobb's, you clearly discriminate against human beings based on residency. You discriminate against the human beings who live in the womb based on their inability to survive in your habitat. Perhaps you are not a human being because you cannot survive in outer space or a pool of sharks! Survival in a hostile environment is not a valid argument for determining life. The cut umbilical cord does not mean sudden life, sudden independence. Are you not dependent on anything or anyone?
There's one factor though you are missing. You forget what the fetus depends on. Biological and physiologically speaking, the fetus is dependent on another organism from the outside world. Clearly if you take a fetus out of the womb, it cannot live. And yet, if it did, why are we enduring pregnancy up to the 9th month or longer? Someone with clear, abstract understanding needs to set some rules on reproductivity, because apparently, you do not understand you are taking R.P. rights away.
heroikrobb, clearly you are dependent on other organisms from the outside world. Clearly, if you are taken out of your protective environment, it/you cannot live. You make it sound like pregnancy is all bad - something to be endured. I believe that the "rules" on reproductivity are very clear and need no abstract understanding. Our Creator was ingenious when he developed the reproductive system with protection (until 1973) from a harmful environment in the womb. And killing humans is not a right
Maybe you should think about the stance of our Creator. He ignores our right to live. If he can't set a good example, what can we do? He's incapable just like our nations if people believe that we have this so called right to life. Things in this world happen and people credit God. Hence, if Mother Teresa states that no nation or sovereign has the right to take that right to life away, that means even God does not have that right. Hence, your argument is moot.
i'm sorry if you see me that way, but I really don't care. I can't understand what you are trying to say in your arguments, and they jump all over the place. At least I KNOW that it is not ok to kill a baby, especially after it is born, which even you, through your arguments say is true. So, clearly- what is your opinion on partial- birth abortion, and infanticide?? Babies are not fucking punishment, miracles, that are viewed as punishment by those who can't even handle their own lives.
I only say that killing a 'baby' is okay 10 minutes after birth for the sake of post fetal development. You see, the umbilical cord defines an unborn 'child' as dependent and not fully organized. The circulatory system of a fetus is not like an newborn infant because the aorta delivers partial oxygenated blood.
I'm all for partial-births and even live-birth abortions, though I believe we should refrain from leaving them to die just in case some pro-lifer like Stanek runs off with them.
Do you not understand fetal development? The umbilical cord is the essence of the fetus and without it in the womb, it ceases to exist. It's technically a fetus still even out of the womb because that tells the organism that it is still dependent. It can only be life once the baby is without its umbilical cord and is out of the womb.
Your emphasis is lacking of how a fetus can survive outside the womb. You forget that it is a organism-in-development, not a developing organism.
Chocoglow ... first, you're setting up a straw man. Second, no, they're not the same. You're talking about a late-term abortion procedure called D&X used only in rare cases for life or health of the mother, or because the fetus has severe defects rendering it incompatible with life.
You need to realize that a fetus is an organism going through a trial and not necessarily alive as you ASSume. And with adoption, you're throwing away the child, and that's not whole hearted love. Unless the woman has died giving birth, love is not complete to its reputation. You are not the one raising it. You decide that you don't want it. To not want what you produce is not love at all. Furthermore, you don't show love when you force the woman to hurt her free will. Pro-choice is true love.
I, for one, do not have a problem with abortions or aborting a fetus if it was alive. I know for a fact that a fetus is incapable of life for its own good. I know that physical boundaries prevent actual human interaction and I feel because a fetus cannot communicate with another fetus, that it's unworthy of social interaction. I'm never going to give in to the pro-life mission and I know that if you take out a fetus, it will die.
so... basically you think that a baby is a punishment to a woman? i think you're crazy. A baby is not punishment. It is a life that you have started, and have no right to end. Don't try to make it sound like no big deal.
Babies can be viewed as punishment just like Barack Obama said. If pro-life views babies as joyful, and someone who is pro-choice cannot handle giving birth to a baby or let alone raise it during pregnancy, it isn't joy. And the fact you have not set up adoption plans where a couple can love their unborn child that is being given up to them tells me that you are punishing women. You are not strong on your arguments, I refer to you as a whole and to yourself.
I kinda like and respect women, therefore i`m pro choice.
All the cool cats are pro choice. End of story !
MrHaggis03 1 month ago
ekajeht is in a loony bin where liars & trolls who have multi-accounts belong in
canadianskye1964 3 months ago
@ekajeht went your channel (ekajeht); no comments i made are on your ekajeht channel.
did your remove them or
are you a troll w multi-accounts?
canadianskye1964 3 months ago
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@ekajeht and what does screaming in caps "SHUT UP' say about you as a man. it shows you are everything that you accuse me of being.
no real man tells a woman to shut up in that way or speaks to women like you do.
as i said before i don't deny sending any comments to your channel. that is a falsehood on your part.
canadianskye1964 3 months ago
ekajeht has shown that his social skills w people are swearing at them, calling them names, ridiculing & just plain being nasty.
no wonder his name can be found on men's rights discussion forums on the internet, father's rights (i gather if he is a father he lost his right to custody--go figure--& hatred of feminists (women who don't conform to his narrow, disrespecful views on women.
can you say........bitter? oh yes & he likes to threaten people as in 'watch your back'
canadianskye1964 3 months ago
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@ekajeht i feel sorry for your children (if you have any) to have you for a father.
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@ekajeht yeah right! HAHAHAHAHAHA! i haven't removed any comments!
my channel is not visible.
but, you have removed my comments from your page.
you are one twisted dude
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964 If anyone doubts that canadianskye is a nut case and a liar ,,,.Check out my home page and look at all her comments that she denies sending!
ekajeht 3 months ago
@ekajeht nutcase yourself. i never denied sending you comments. you are denying you are sending comments to me. just because my channel isn't visible doesn't mean your nasty comments don't reach my inbox or do you have a problem with comprehension?
canadianskye1964 3 months ago
@canadianskye1964 Get one of your nurses in the looney bin you live in to explain to you that when ever someone replies to you on a video thread= IT GOES TO YOUR INBOX!!!
That way YOU know when someone replies to one of your comments without going to every video to see if there were any replies to you.
ekajeht 3 months ago
@ekajeht
careful! - the men in the white coats may put you in a straight-jacket &return you to you padded solitary cell.and then you won't be able to troll from your multi-accounts. i had left specific comments on your channel but there not there anymore! the men in white coats are coming to take you away! you gave yourself away! roflol!
canadianskye1964 3 months ago
do not send me anymore posts to my channel or this prochoice channel
you seem to be a troll who likes to harass people. i asked you before & i am asking you again.
good day
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964 says="do not send me anymore posts to my channel or this prochoice channel..."
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If this reply was to me ,,,then you have proven my point about you being nuts?
Plus you have shown yourself as a LIAR as well as a nut.
I didn't post anything on your channel.
And who do you think you are telling me not to reply on this video?
If you are tired of me showing you for the evil lying nut you are ,,, then don't comment to me first anymore!
In other words "SHUT UP"
ekajeht 4 months ago
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canadianskye1964 4 months ago
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canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@ekajeht i'm not going to play your games. the fact is you have posted me: every comment posted on this channel has also been via 'send a message' to my inbox
as i don't have a visible message box, you can falsely deny that you posted me.
i've asked you to leave me alone..you have no respect for others as well as for yourself. you are a bully that lowers himself to name calling & nasty messages as a measure of communication.
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
ekajeht 4 months ago
@heroikrobb: why aren't forced birthers choosing to save children by adopting from orphanages or child welfare agencies. these are not all bad kids
some lost their parents & need a loving home & parents.
why? sigh...they're not newborns.
even children have a hierarchy of value when it come to adoption. newborns are at the top. what does this say about humankind?
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964 says="why arn't ...save children by adopting....why? because they are not new borns."
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Hard to adopt a new born baby when the pro-choice mother chose to murder it before it had a chance at life!
ekajeht 4 months ago
@ekajeht;. i know you like to deny there are children (orphans) already here who need homes
as you're mind is too small & brainwashed.
these children are as much children of God. i know forced-birthers have a hierarchy of the sanctity of human life
w the unborn being the most valuable & children already here as throw-aways.
if you can choose the hierarchy of the 'sanctity of life' so can we prochoicers
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964 says=" I know you like to deny there are children (orphans)..."
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Are you nuts?
When did I ever say ANYTHING about children (orphans) not needing homes?
Don't lie and try to sound as if you care about children,,, when you are in favor of murdering them before they are born!
You have to be an evil skank ,or nuts,, or BOTH !!
I'm betting you are both.
ekajeht 4 months ago
In Auschwitz, they said "The flames of the burning children blot out faith".
Holocaust made some men animals,some men Saints,the two ETHICAL extremes.
En utero children have a Human Right to GIVE their BODIES to GOD !!!
Abortion is ATTACK on ALL humans, ALL Laws ! Laws come down to what one BODY can do to another BODY!!
At Auschwitz, as today, the question is not "Where is God?'
The question is :Where is man?"
Nazis pointed to US Eugenics movement as justification for Master Race doctrine
MrGayKieran 1 year ago
Does anyone actually get killed during an adoption?
MrGayKieran 1 year ago
about 'it's a woman's body she can do what she wants.' THATS NOT TRUE!! there is a living child in there. this video and other abortion videos are very offensive to me but i watch them anyway becauseit is important for me to get the message out about this issue that i feel very strongly about!
Emmz72 1 year ago
uhm okay. u people are stupid. i am 15 and adopted and very proud of that. anyone who chooses abortion should be put in prison for murder. there is no excuse for it. if two people decide to be stupid and have sex and not use protection, they have to face the consequences. why should a child suffer for two stupid people's actions? and yes the child is alive. it is considered alive from the moment it is conceived. and yes it is alive from the moment it is conceives. and dont give me this crap
Emmz72 1 year ago
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I can't even read your argument...
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
pt 3: i am scared: what if i get raped when i am older & am forced to stay pregnant. what will happen to my baby? i sure wish women had never lost the right to have an abortion. i feel more threatened than when women could abort. an aborted baby always had a chance to be reconceied & born into a home where she is truly loved & wanted not just shunted around in adoption. i am tired of being used as a weapon for prolifers.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
pt 2: she said she say i will be adopted. i'm scared: what type of home will i be going to. will i be loved or will be hurt? see i am an old soul & the last time i was adopted i was sexually abused by my supposedly loving dad. another girl was molested by a priest & got pregnant.. instead of causing upset in the church, her catholic mom quietly had an abortion-a great sin. but you know what, that baby was relieved to be released from that unhappy pregnancy.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
i have read on pro-ife videos about the unborn speaking to their moms(?) here's my take on it.
Pt 1: mommy. i'm really glad you want me, but you know i was talking to another unborn baby when that other mother sat beside you: she said she is scared. her mommy get raped & since she is being forced to be born (by what her mommy called prolifers), she is depressed. they talked her into having the baby & i am feel mommy's depression strongly, she bleeds-i'm scared to be born.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
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@ekajeht @PALOMITA694 You want a better world?, You should start by killing all the evil sluts that murder their own offspring.
That would do away with alot of evil in the world!
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So you are 100% in agreement that that it was a good thing that
Hiltler was born.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 Says=" so you thik it was a good thing Hitler was born?'
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Hmmmmm?
So we murder the next baby because he might be a Hitler ... or a George Washington, or Abe Lincolin , or Thomas Edison, or Alexander Bell or Louis Pasture or your own grand child or...???
So you think it was a mistake not to have murdered these while they were in the womb?
ekajeht 1 year ago
@ekajeht Humans can come with unpredictable characters. Whether they are going to turn good or bad is not what matters what matters is if the woman is willing to give birth to them.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@ekjajeht one prochoice argument is to have abortion so 'people' like you arent born.
you the most poisonous & cruel person that any prochoice can be.
you are just a troll who goes around condemning prochoice people.
canadianskye1964 4 months ago
@canadianskye1964 says="you are the most poisonous &cruel person that any prochoice can be"
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I'm NOT pro-choice!
I'm not that cruel.
I could never murder my own offspring like the pro-choicers do!
ekajeht 4 months ago
If abortions are legal up to 24 weeks, how can you explain babies surviving premature birth up to 21. When an 8 week old baby in the womb was pricked with a needle he pulled his hand away and opened his mouth to cry out. Abortion exists for convenience, but in reality a truly self-less woman would give her baby life even if she knew she couldn't care for him.
courtbian89 1 year ago
@courtbian89 says: a truely selfless women would give her baby life even if she knew she could care for him
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You call that selfless!! Thats ALL about what the women wants and NOTHING about what that child DESERVES!! Youre an idiot!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 you seem very upset about my statement. I'm actually not an idiot at all, and to say I am based on my views on a controversial issue speaks volumes about your own intelligence. I’ve known many people who have been adopted. And it is occasionally hard for them to come to terms with being given up, but despite all this and the hardships they’ve had to endure (everyone has hardships in life) I’ve never heard any of them say they wish they were aborted.
courtbian89 1 year ago
@courtbian89 Speaks volumes about your intelligence / Ive never heard any of them say they wish they were aborted
~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOure actually just kidding w/ that statement, right? Why are you comparing what a living being wants NOW, with a fetus who wouldnt choose ANYthing now OR then, and on top of THAT, attack MY intelligence? life is precious to anyone who is experiencing it as an entity through biographical means. The insanity of you people never ends!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 really well you have now. my childhood was hell: if i could have chosen to be aborted i would have.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 says=" If i could have chosen to be aborted i would have."
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Life was that bad for you?
And yet you are still here by your own choice!
ekajeht 1 year ago
@courtbian89 says: Ive known many people who have been adopted
~~~ Go back to school & learn about stats! Youre few little friends that were adopted do NOT a statistic make! Did you know 44% of adopted males will be imprisoned, compared to 1% of the gen. public. 53 % of adults that were adopted are unemployed . 45% reported living on food stamps . Prevalence of PTSDamong Vietnam veterans: 15% - Prevalence of adopted kids w/ PTSD 25% . 55% experience homelessness. Youre a child abuser
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@courtbian89 says: you seem every upset by my statament
~~~~~~~~~ I am very upset with ANYones statements that are uneducated, moronic and totally false.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 I really can't debate something when a point isn't made.. what is false about my statement?
courtbian89 1 year ago
@courtbian89 says: I really can't debate something when a point isn't made
~~~~~~~~~ I made the point that a fetus cant scream,.so where is your response? did you "forget" one? LOLOL
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 I acknowledge its hard for a woman to make the choice to put her baby up for adoption instead of abort, but I think it is the most selfless act to give a baby a chance at life. Mother Theresa once said “it is a poverty that a child must die, so that you may live as you wish”.
courtbian89 1 year ago
@courtbian89 says: give a baby a chance at life
~~~~~~~~~ Do you know the defintion of the word "chance"? Its RISK! Youre free to have as many babies as you like and risk their happinees, but dont expecct smart women to follow your lead! pro choicers take risks at the craps tables in Vegas..NOT on a child life!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 sooo pregnancy is a risk? always? I know its offensive to call pro-choicers "pro-abortionists" but I think that described you perfectly. You don't agree with pro-life or pro-choice per se.. you just don't believe in pro-creation at all, is that an accurate analysis of your views?
courtbian89 1 year ago
@courtbian89 says: mother Teresa
~~~~~~~~~~~ Who gives a damn about an opinion of one woman? Hoe old are you?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 well by your reasoning who gives a damn about your opinion? Opinions matter, thus the reason for debate. My mother chose life for me 21 years ago, to answer your question about my age. How old are you?
courtbian89 1 year ago
@courtbian89 sueezee is a old whore close to 60 with a skanky daughter that can't handle murdering her own baby.
So sueezee is so pro-abortion to try to show her daughter that she is no worse then all the other baby murderous pro-choicers.
Sueezee might get to see her own evil daughter abort herself over her guilt of what she did to her own baby.
Just think ---
If sueezee's daughter kills herself ,it will make sueezee sooooooooooooo happy!
ekajeht 1 year ago
@ekajeht Sueezee sent me this message after I made some pro-life comments - "I know who you are.. BYE!!!"
I think life has been hard on her or she just trying to intimidate people.
But she isn't evil.
MrGayKieran 1 year ago
@MrGayKieran says=" (sueezee1) isn't evil"
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Not evil?
What would you call someone who would murder their own offspring?
Some would call them a murderer.
Even murderers know murder is wrong.
But sueezee1 thinks those who do murder their own, are smart women!!!!!
She not only murdered her own ,, but she condones the murder of other children! and encourages others to murder also!
I think it is safe to say SUEEZEE1 is 100% EVIL !!!
ekajeht 1 year ago
@ekajeht Isn't murdering his offspring the bases for the christian religion?
humanistheart 9 months ago
@courtbian89 Sueezee1 is in her 60's.
She has a daughter that had an abortion and can't handle the fact that she is a murderer like her own mother.
Sueezee1 also abused the one daughter she didn't murder in the womb and thinks all parents that has a child are as evil ass her and will follow her example of child abuse.
That is why she is so pro-abortion and thinks everyone else is a child abuser.
ekajeht 1 year ago
@courtbian89 8 week embryo in womb pricked w/ needle pulled his hand away and opened mouth to cry
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LOLOL, and 8 week enbryo is half an inch long. Get out your ruler! It has NO mouth that will open, only a pit where the mouth will eventually be. And if it DID move when touched with needle, it would move when touched by its mothers loving hand. Its a reflex, dumbass. AND, how do you know it was opening its mouth to scream? maybe it was yawning.Hahahahahah
STOP PROLIFE LIES
Sueezee1 1 year ago
adoption and abortion are the same. Women need education on how to read, write, and math and budgetting. Learn that you get pregnant you have the right to carry your pregnancy to term or abort your body not mine. Parent or place. Both abortion and adoption increases depression and suicide rates, first term abortion is the safest out of the 3 options
allisonallison1 1 year ago
Do the math, search for the number of couples wanting to adopt. Then, search the number of abortions every year. All the couples would have a baby in a few months, at this point we start throwing them in the ocean? Abortion is birth control....
There are also children in child care NOW that could be adopted, the couples don't want an older child who needs help, they want a fresh one.
100chemosabe 1 year ago
it is incredibly difficult to read the colored font in this video but i think the idea is not only can women be sluts... now we can be breeders too...
hasbeendez 2 years ago
As an adopted person, I find this video offensive. Are you actually suggesting that my seventeen year old birth mother should have sought to "rent" her body to an adult couple seeking a child at the expense of pro life groups, and that any other circumstances under which an adoption takes place are inappropriate? Well, then, I'm sorry, but you're not really "pro choice," you're pro abortion.
Progo35 2 years ago
BTW, most pregnant women who choose adoption receive services paid for by the adoptive family. A woman in this situation doesn't have to pay a dime.
Progo35 2 years ago
"The pregnant woman is being used to raise the child with her nutrients, etc." ARE YOU FN KIDDING ME??? You pro-choicers are SICK!!!!!!!!! There is NOTHING more selfish than that!
Lisa5kids 2 years ago
Furthermore women who have already given birth can still get help from the alpha center and its all for FREE! Hows that for help, on one side pro-life groups are spending all their time and money to help women, while abortion clinics take money (who has a womans best interest?). The Alpha center even offers counseling for women who have had abortions, and are struggling with it (a large amount). Giving the gift of life is undeniably the most unselfish and heroic thing a person can do.
courtbian89 2 years ago
court: abortion clinic take money. We're working on trying to get the given for free.
Sueezee1 2 years ago
I'm not really sure what you wanted to come of this video. I have to clear one thing up, your proposal of pro-life groups (i.e. the Catholic Church) paying for the costs of a woman to choose life already exists. My Aunt volunteers at the Alpha Center where women come in regularly to seek counseling and aid during an unwanted or unexpected pregnancy.
courtbian89 2 years ago
Nobody wants to adopt a baby that isn't white. All this bullshit about adoption is pretty racist, really.
MyrtleMessmer 2 years ago
I use to go to church with a couple who is white and they adopted a hispanic baby and also another child who is half white/half african american. Not everyone who is white is racist!
pitts003 2 years ago
All right, you know, you're right. I shouldn't have said "nobody" wants to adopt a baby that isn't white. There are a few exceptions. But the statistics don't lie: People are begging for white babies, and the black and hispanic babies are languishing, unwanted.
MyrtleMessmer 2 years ago
pitts: white couple adopted wh/AfAm child. not everyone is white racist/ And not everyone is ignorant enough to think one white couple adopting one mixed child means that they are all adopted. Learn the stats on non white, mixed, emotionally or mentally damaged kids up for adoption that never get adopted!!
Sueezee1 2 years ago
I don't recall saying "one white couple adopting one mixed child means that they are all adopted." You know good and well that's not what I meant. You are just looking for an excuse to be rude to me because I'm pro life. Even though I don't support abortion, I don't think people who do support it are bad people. We simply have different views. I am finished here. I don't mind a friendly debate but I'm not going to respond to people who only mean to provoke others by calling them names and etc.
pitts003 2 years ago
WARNING.
Username ambrocal aka AcornsArentOaks continues to post obscene pedophile material on youtube.. Please be sure to report this user to youtube and law enforcement and block him from your channels.
AbortionKillsBabies 2 years ago
This vid is great, legal abortion rocks!!
Pro woman, pro choice!!!
PS: looks like you're still bitter proLIE = AKB, wonder why, lol?
"found guilty by association" did you report to interpol yet? HAHAHAHHAHA!
ambrocal 2 years ago
1 star as this video is crap...so many selfish killers
232323C 2 years ago
Not a whole lot of effort put into trying to prove a proveless point. If a woman is not willing to accept a child into her life, then don't have sex. It's really that simple. No one has died in recent years due to lack of sex. Self-control and responsibility are all that is needed, but some people try to justify the murder of innocent babies in the womb with cries of servitude and stress on the woman. It just haunts you the rest of your life-trust me, I know. But no one cared they just took my $
Oneontheright 2 years ago
it's not simple because she has a right to have sex and all unprotected sex doesn't lead to pregnancy. basically, you said don't enjoy your body while you still can even with protected sex, sorry this is not the 1800's.
just because you have a bad abortion doesn't every women would have a bad one as well.
your opinion is wrong.
FREEAMERICANOW69 2 years ago
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aprilcarlock 2 years ago
I kind of enjoy the iron of abortion... a terrible and completely selfish act, denying a potential person up to 80 or so years of life just so a woman doesn't have to suffer the 9 month shame of pregnancy, only to result in the even more consuming shame of having aborted her child like a gutless waste.
anticlimatic21 2 years ago
I can't read most of what's written there. Terrible choice of text format, but I think I agree on your point,
theseanze 2 years ago
This is a silly attempt to prove a pointless point. It seems to be done by a teen. Most women who make the decision to have sex are not enslaved, why do we want to take away the consequences of someone who made a poor choice in the first place. It's a good lesson for life, to actually be committed to someone else & look out for someone who is helpless. A lesson that our society needs to learn. Having sex is serious and should be sacred, as well as the babe that comes as a result.
donajoja 2 years ago
Could not read the words of the video at all. Anyway, robb you have obviously not had to endure an abortion. The pro choice movement have led so many women astray and when they fall apart the supposed pro women supporters are no where to be found. Then the women feel they cannot turn to the prolife movement because of what they have done. Many women today suffer horrible depression because of prochoice. It is not worth it. Look in your heart for the answer, it does not lie.
juliebork 2 years ago
Hi. I've had an abortion, and it was nothing compared to what enduring pregnancy and childbirth would have been to me. THAT would have been my personal hell. Many women suffer post-partum depression (or psychosis) after giving birth. Funny how you "pro-lifers" always ignore that, given how common it is.
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
(The above comment is in response to "juliebork")
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
Oh, so in other words, every woman should kill her baby, because she just might suffer from post-partum depression. Hey, how about every woman gets an abortion because, well, the baby might cause us some kind of inconvenience or another.
bananas51593 2 years ago
How's that for a fun strawman? No, honey, the logical conclusion is that, since depression can be caused by either birth or abortion, or pregnancy, or hell, just because someone happens to be prone to depression, it is CLEAR that what might or might not cause depression is only as relevant as the woman involved decides it is. That means it is just as good a reason to abort as it is to not abort, and it is NEVER adequate as an excuse to take the choice out of the WOMAN's hands.
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
Welcome to a prolifeinternational free YouTube bluedra (he has a new sockpuppet account, against YT rules, but i guess he'll behave now, new account is AbortionKillsBabies).
ambrocal 2 years ago
You really think that troll can help himself? He won't behave. But oh well. He's old news at this point - less bothersome and worthy of notice than a gnat!
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
"but i guess he`ll behave now"
So says youtubes most scheming, rabid ,fanatical pro abort STALKER TROLL SNITCH and HYPOCRITE!
"less bothersome and worthy of nortice than a gnat"
LOLOLOLOLOL!
"When pregnant on the other hand all sorts of whackiy things happens to a women`s hormones and chemistry...." bluedragonflye.
"It`s all a matter of location"
fetus = inside baby = outside.." bluedragonflye.
So pregnat mothers need love not abortion..apart from location a fetus IS a baby!
Thankyou.
AbortionKillsBabies 2 years ago
*smack*
Got the gnat!
Good. On with my day.
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
Still the same old bluedragonflye in denial..nothing changes!
AbortionKillsBabies 2 years ago
Btw did you know your buddy the scumbag ambrocal is one of just 6 "friends" with username "deepfriedfetus666" that also include the VILE pedophile channel and username "letsrapechildren"???
I think you`d be wise to choose your company more carefully and be a tad discerning..otherwise you could be found guilty by association.
AbortionKillsBabies 2 years ago
ab: ambrocal is one of 6 user names You're a god damned lair...as always ab!!! The time you spend trying to get the people out of here just because you dont agree with them, could be more wisely used to fight the battle...or is that it!! you cant fight the balttle with all the truths from other posters making you look foolish? lol YOU are the one other poster should be afaiid of...VERY afriad!!
Sueezee1 2 years ago
Recent pedo inclined post from your pro abort buddy..These French abortion fetishists and friends of pedophile channels are scum..
ambrocal (1 week ago)
"How do you stop a baby from choking?
Take your dick out it`s mouth.Lulz."
AbortionKillsBabies 2 years ago
bananas "every wonman should kill her baby"
The fanatical pro aborts are hopelessly brainwashed and damaged by their own abortion experience..you`re absolutely right that the vast majority of abortions are for mere conveience..babies have (to these tragically hopeless and narcissistic people) become as disposable and worthless as used razor blades..
AbortionKillsBabies 2 years ago
exactloy bananas....that is what this video sayas... basically a baby is a huge inconvenience and the poor woman will mis her favorite activities for 9 monhts..omg ..imagine that,,,,the horror..this video SUX..abortion kills life...and if you beleive human souls return ..well think about the implications of that......this video shoudl be labled..Give me an abortion so I can still dance and oplay basketball
232323C 2 years ago
Yes I am having a hard time reading it too!
And "the baby" doesn't always belong to the woman carrying it........in the situation of a surrogate the baby belongs to the family NOT the woman carrying it. And can be forced to have an abortion if the family doesn't think the child is worthy of life!
Pro LIFE Momma to 4..... 3 Bios and 1 adopted child working on the 2nd adoption!!
jimjenn97 2 years ago
Is anybody else having trouble actually reading what this says? The font colors blend into the background so much, I cant even read it.
SuperNova3981 2 years ago
Yeah, sorry Rob, I have to agree. Stick to solid backgrounds or something, it's really hard to read the text over the pictures.
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
God is the giver and taker of life. Abortion is stopping God's work. Those who are pro-choice should not call themselves "Christians" Jeremiah 1:5 - "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." The info in this video is far from true.
ivan99val 2 years ago
Abortion is the very OPPOSITE of Love.
"It is a shame that a child has to die so that you may live as you wish."
geokid19 2 years ago
And it's the same thing with adoption. Throw away the child after you give birth to it. And I thought we had the purpose of unconditional love. What are you thinking!? That quote from Mother Teresa is opposite of the goals Catholicism strives for. And for that, I am against adoption when it comes to settling a reproductive situation.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
Unborn does not mean that the baby is not human, and to say that a baby is 'organism in development,' might be your way of desensitizing yourself to the truth, and frankly sad. So when does life begin in your eyes, and whether or not there was joy in creating life, joy can be found in bringing that child into the world and raising them to respect life and all it wonders, good & bad. I hope and pray that you and others with your Obama like views will see that supporting abortion is murder.
c7epatch 2 years ago
Life truly begins when the newborn's umbilical cord is clamped off its body. I know the truth in its complexity. It's more than just seeing it with the eyes, but with a greater sense. Obviously we are alive after we are born. Do you not realize that the fetus is just playing jokes on you? It's really somatic impulses and not controlled movements. You can't support adoption if you argue with love, because there isn't. Catholics use that excuse but they're wrong, using love as reason to childbear.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
Life truly begins at the moment of fertilization when the single cell zygote has the DNA that dictates many of the characteristics of this new human being. This is a scientific fact not a joke. The zygote splits into the blastocyst and the embryo, not just any blob of tissue but capable of self-directed development - NOT a part of the mother. Why does the fetus pull away it's arm when the abortionist goes after it to rip it off? I think you would probably do the same.
jcmq2 2 years ago
heroikrobb's, you clearly discriminate against human beings based on residency. You discriminate against the human beings who live in the womb based on their inability to survive in your habitat. Perhaps you are not a human being because you cannot survive in outer space or a pool of sharks! Survival in a hostile environment is not a valid argument for determining life. The cut umbilical cord does not mean sudden life, sudden independence. Are you not dependent on anything or anyone?
jcmq2 2 years ago
There's one factor though you are missing. You forget what the fetus depends on. Biological and physiologically speaking, the fetus is dependent on another organism from the outside world. Clearly if you take a fetus out of the womb, it cannot live. And yet, if it did, why are we enduring pregnancy up to the 9th month or longer? Someone with clear, abstract understanding needs to set some rules on reproductivity, because apparently, you do not understand you are taking R.P. rights away.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
heroikrobb, clearly you are dependent on other organisms from the outside world. Clearly, if you are taken out of your protective environment, it/you cannot live. You make it sound like pregnancy is all bad - something to be endured. I believe that the "rules" on reproductivity are very clear and need no abstract understanding. Our Creator was ingenious when he developed the reproductive system with protection (until 1973) from a harmful environment in the womb. And killing humans is not a right
jcmq2 2 years ago
Maybe you should think about the stance of our Creator. He ignores our right to live. If he can't set a good example, what can we do? He's incapable just like our nations if people believe that we have this so called right to life. Things in this world happen and people credit God. Hence, if Mother Teresa states that no nation or sovereign has the right to take that right to life away, that means even God does not have that right. Hence, your argument is moot.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
How can i become Pro-Life
HowardSternn 2 years ago
wtf...simple start reading the bible and beliving fairy tales and start condemning others for exercising their legal rights over THEIR OWN BODIES
missaquaboogie 2 years ago
Who does the baby's body belong to, then?
maureenbranson 2 years ago
it belongs the woman...it is in her body. If she does not want it. It is completely UP TO HER...and the law agrees with that.
missaquaboogie 2 years ago
The very fact that you want to "become" pro-life says that you already are Pro-Life =)
If your question was "what can I do" as a pro-life person to help- there are many things!
Message me- I'll be glad to talk to you about it. =)
RenokerQ 2 years ago
i'm sorry if you see me that way, but I really don't care. I can't understand what you are trying to say in your arguments, and they jump all over the place. At least I KNOW that it is not ok to kill a baby, especially after it is born, which even you, through your arguments say is true. So, clearly- what is your opinion on partial- birth abortion, and infanticide?? Babies are not fucking punishment, miracles, that are viewed as punishment by those who can't even handle their own lives.
mpurtin 2 years ago
I only say that killing a 'baby' is okay 10 minutes after birth for the sake of post fetal development. You see, the umbilical cord defines an unborn 'child' as dependent and not fully organized. The circulatory system of a fetus is not like an newborn infant because the aorta delivers partial oxygenated blood.
I'm all for partial-births and even live-birth abortions, though I believe we should refrain from leaving them to die just in case some pro-lifer like Stanek runs off with them.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
I 100% agree with you Heroikrobb. Keep the great videos up.
OneShotOneKill555 2 years ago
I was almost physically sick after reading this...
So now a baby that's already out of the womb isnt even a life?
lovinglife424 2 years ago
Do you not understand fetal development? The umbilical cord is the essence of the fetus and without it in the womb, it ceases to exist. It's technically a fetus still even out of the womb because that tells the organism that it is still dependent. It can only be life once the baby is without its umbilical cord and is out of the womb.
Your emphasis is lacking of how a fetus can survive outside the womb. You forget that it is a organism-in-development, not a developing organism.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
shouldn't partial birth abortions be equivalent to premature births? they are both underdeveloped and dependent
so you're saying that you'd support taking the life away from a premature baby?
chocoglow 2 years ago
Chocoglow ... first, you're setting up a straw man. Second, no, they're not the same. You're talking about a late-term abortion procedure called D&X used only in rare cases for life or health of the mother, or because the fetus has severe defects rendering it incompatible with life.
bluedragonflye 2 years ago
What do you mean by 'the fetus is just playing jokes on you' and 'you can't support adoption if you argue with love?'
CoryHeimann 2 years ago
You need to realize that a fetus is an organism going through a trial and not necessarily alive as you ASSume. And with adoption, you're throwing away the child, and that's not whole hearted love. Unless the woman has died giving birth, love is not complete to its reputation. You are not the one raising it. You decide that you don't want it. To not want what you produce is not love at all. Furthermore, you don't show love when you force the woman to hurt her free will. Pro-choice is true love.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
So what would you say if you thought the fetus was alive?
CoryHeimann 2 years ago
I, for one, do not have a problem with abortions or aborting a fetus if it was alive. I know for a fact that a fetus is incapable of life for its own good. I know that physical boundaries prevent actual human interaction and I feel because a fetus cannot communicate with another fetus, that it's unworthy of social interaction. I'm never going to give in to the pro-life mission and I know that if you take out a fetus, it will die.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
so... basically you think that a baby is a punishment to a woman? i think you're crazy. A baby is not punishment. It is a life that you have started, and have no right to end. Don't try to make it sound like no big deal.
mpurtin 2 years ago
Babies can be viewed as punishment just like Barack Obama said. If pro-life views babies as joyful, and someone who is pro-choice cannot handle giving birth to a baby or let alone raise it during pregnancy, it isn't joy. And the fact you have not set up adoption plans where a couple can love their unborn child that is being given up to them tells me that you are punishing women. You are not strong on your arguments, I refer to you as a whole and to yourself.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
Adoption is better then abortion.
Kandai25 3 years ago
Definitely a valid, sound proposition. You're awesome!
SickMouth 3 years ago
Thanks very much! If Catholics are not going to accept this prop, then it means they sin in their hearts, and I thought they were against it.
Apparently it seems the pro-life movement makes excuses as I come to see.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
I totally concur.
SickMouth 3 years ago