Kick them out of the church? They're not in the church. They don't know Christ. I think, brother, you should pray that they meet with Christ; That they should know Him and find His love. They're a broken people, raising up broken children. Some of the picketers are only six years old. I understand your righteous anger, but maybe instead of throwing them out in judgement that they can't be saved, you should pray and let God handle their hearts.
On a side note: Westboro-did you hear how they encourage families to excommunicate & abandon anyone-including the 24 yr old daughter of a member-from the church (aka cult) for disagreeing/introducing a different opinion? Even when she attempted to apologize she was thought of as "invisible" & is not allowed communication with her siblings or family? Supposedly she has not seen her family in 4 years or so due to her questioning certain ideas which is what young people do by nature to learn.
I just learned of Westboro. Your video is awesome here! I'm wondering, is there a non-profit dedicated to "abolishing" Westboro? I'm an internet marketng agent & think there should be a non-profit site able to offer it's proceeds to organizations dedicated to better causes than Westboro, such as the victims of Westboro's actions. You're 100% right, they use Christianity as a guise to preach hate. They're passing judgement on others, just 1 example of their misinformed actions.
WBC is sadly more consistent than most professing Christians. Though I don't condone them, your comments about Jesus only speaking about hell to those who thought they had it all together ...depends, there were Jews who thought as you claim, and also the Pharisees/Sadducees which would fit that category--but there were others who were told about sin/hell/judgement by Christ. If you want references I can give them, but Paul did speak about hell/judgment/wrath to unknowing Gentiles.
And i thought i hated westboro baptist church enough. Now they're coming to my homecountry to insult the people who died. One of my friends nearly got killed there.
wbc church dont speak for all christians they dont follow the bible god judges sin but loves people and all sinners but jesus never say he died only for the elect he died for all of us gay straight yellow red thats the god of the bible not what wbc that stand for wicked bastard children thats the wbc good review and blashfame to wbc!!!!!!!!dont speak for all true christians!!!!!!!!!1
The WBC just doesn't make sense. There are gay people in America, so because God doesn't like gays, he goes and kills people who aren't gay and, in this case, are not American. These people are just homophobes who just hide behind religion.
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LOGICAL POINT OF VIEW: Since the WBC supports the United States Supreme Courts decision they in turn support the countries policies. Therefore they are supporting same country that are fag enablers. If they even put a penny into the US economy by purchasing food, clothes, etc they are supporting the US which are fags enablers.
You see in order for these guys to practice what they preach they would have to cut themselves off completely from the USA or any other fag enabler country period.
And it is true, we as human cannot really take cares of everyone of them. What we really can do, is to do whatever the Holy Spirit assigns to us. The rest, Jesus will take care of them
Amen~ God have thousands of way of solving one problem. And I believe He have thousands of way to finish His work too. And even Paul has to write more than one letter to churches. I believe the Holy Spirit has given us the same goal, but 2 different instructions to told to our churches according to what they are lacking. You have been doing a good job for sharing the God's word. Keep doing what you are doing. For such a time as this, there are so much suffering and misunderstanding.
Only thur the Bible, and with the guide of the Holy Spirit, in order for us to seek His truth. (Proverbs 3:5-6) Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and not lean unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths.
You should not kick anyone out of a Church. Yes, they are wrong. But Jesus came for the sinners. Churches' doors should always open to all people. Jesus would never kick out anybody who comes to seek him. Except for the time when people do buying and selling and yelling at His temple.
This is not about what I say, nor what you say, nor what they say. It is all about what God says. If you believe your bible is the word of God, n if they clam themselves Christian, which should also believe the bible is the word of God. Then you should invite them, sit down with them with your opened bible.
@27640756 Check out 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 and Tit 3:10-11, the latter says,
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
@thepursuitblog Paul wrote this letter was because at that time the world was so dark and so wicked. He was so angry and so sad that there are brothers and sisters being so sinful, even though they know what they were doing was wrong. Knowing that they were doing wrong and still do it, the bible call that sin against God. That leaves God no choice, but to kick them out, just like He cast the flood. However, kicking them out is always the last resort.
@27640756 watch the video again. I do say that I'd first go to them to show them their doctrinal error. But if they persist in that theology, the Bible leaves me little room to keep people preaching so outspokenly a false Gospel. And by separating them from my church, I can reach people who have willing hearts. The Bible even talks about by putting them out you have a chance to save their souls because you show how serious this matter is. God is love and I affirm that. Don't get me wrong.
Galatians 6:1 "Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted."
God is Love. God wants united not separation. When you look at the parable of weed. They were grow together, bare together, tight together. The separations that is going to be done by God, is only after Jesus comes back. That is time for Jesus to sentence the judge by His righteousness.
God wants to save more lives. And while He wants that, should we be casting them out of the church? And while we live in Jesus, and we live with the Holy Spirit. Should we do this to His children?
You see, even though you and me have different opinion. So we sit down with our bibles opened. I don't know yours, but mine is. And we discuss what the Holy Spirit has given us, and share want the bible says. This is what God wanted to see. If you can do it with me as a stranger, you can explain to them to. Not by you nor by me, but by the word of God.
The thing about Norway is that, there's no 1st amendment there. They're going to waste money travelling there, just to possibly end up arrested. There's no reason for their pickets anyways, they don't try to add members to their church, they don't try to convert gays to straight, the only logical reason is that they do it for attention. They're pushing it, and hopefully they push it too far one day.
Hey...There's an old-saying...A Fish rots from the Head-Down....If a pastor is nuts & full of hate....then he will attract...like-minded(mind?) Types...&..he can't be "excommunicated" cause he'll (hell?) just incorporate under a variable-Name...who is West-boro in-Communion with?...maybe just-themselves,maybe,Westboro-Baptists are already a seperate-sect totally on their own crazy-terms..?
if the westboro baptist church.. or anyone else for that matter picketed at a funeral of my child they would not bring any extra pain to me, only themselves, none would be leaving it alive, then no one would have to worry about them causing pain to anyone else ever again
1. Thank you for criticizing your fellow christians. If you "real" christians don't, you become their enablers. It's rare to see what you've done.
2. How do you know you are the "true" christian? They think they are "true" christians. Have you ever heard of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy?
3. You keep saying jesus but if you went back in time and met the man you revere (if he even existed) he would not respond to "jesus" because that was not his name. It was yeshua. Jesus is a translation.
I have made videos in the past rebuking the Westborough Basptist Church. I agree that what they do at funnerals is not within the boundaries of scripture. but you are way off in what you state regarding Christ's message of hell and stating funnerals need to be respected in the way you suggest.
Jesus even told one disciple that his deceased father was spiritually dead.
So Jesus, in no uncertain terms, was telling the man that his deceased father was going to hell.
The Funniest thing about them going to Norway is that it's illegal to use hate speech in Norway punishable up to 3 years in prison. If they don't get stopped at custome they will be arrested on the spot. I truly hope that they are ignorant enough to think that they are protected by the constitution in a foreign land.
Creating conversation is what you have been all about and why I sub ... I have created video responses, etc ... however your present it, your videos should continue to asks questions and challenge us ... that's my opinion.
WBC is a hate group under the shield of a religion. I'm not much of a bible buff, but I know that the words "fag" and "bitch burger" are nowhere in the pages. They choose to use hateful words to spread their message and that in itself is against what the bible teaches. I've said it to them before and I'll say it to them again, "YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!"
@wbctellsthetruth And the rest of the world thinks that the WBC are a bunch of tactless idiots who should remain hidden from behind their compound walls.
I believe the WBC will be in Texas the 6th of this month to stand side by side with athiests io protest the day of prayer declared set aside by the governer of Texas. So we see the WBC and the athiests working together. Who would have thought?
Wtf? I knew the Westburo Baptists Church was messed up but not that messed up. Seriously they're going all the way to Norway to protest at children's funerals? That is beyond disturbing.
they wont be allowed to protest in Norway, cause here its illegal to protest unless the goverment approves it, they will need to seek permit, and they wont be granted, trust me, they will get in jail if they protest in Norway without permit
as a Chistian i have said some pretty hateful things in the past and i know that it was wrong
but whats really bad about that "godhatesfags" is crazy because it seems like they dont think that they r wrong in any way shape or form. and it just bad that they would go out and attempt to represent christianity in a negative way
Dang, I absolutely wish that WBC would vanish completely! They are the greatest scum of the earth, and I feel bad for the children being taught a lot of that crap. Now they have to grow up being hated! It makes me sick to my stomach. >:(
HappyCabbie (an atheist) has a good and thorough video making his case on why the Westboro Baptist Church isn't Christian, and argues that Christians aren't committing the "No true Scotsman" fallacy when they say WBC isn't Christian, as they're often accused of doing. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.
Seriously, people who hate so virulently and who go out of their way to inflict such hurt and pain on others, are simply mentally unwell. They need to be locked up and treated with electo-shock therapy and pumped full of drugs until they come to their senses. I'm surprised nobody's kicked down their door and dragged them off to mental institutions and involuntarily committed them. They're serious nutters.
I just can't unlike you. I'll admit I think differently about things and my veiws will not be considered traditional, and I don't like preachers and I think prophets lie to tell you what they think you want to hear. I read my bible at home, thank you very much. That said, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING AGAINST WESTBORO! I am in 100% agreement. If anything bad where to happen to them I would show the same disrespect to them as they do to others. The only good Westboro member is a dead one.
Thanks for speaking up against this assholes. Anyway... If they come to Norway they probably just would get beaten badly up long before reaching the funerals.
Btw Who said "Do not do to others what angers you if done to you by others" and when did this person live?
Thanx for this video and the sympathy you are showing. Many tears are wept these days in Norway. Muslims, Judes, Christians and Atheist are joining together against this horrendous act of terror.
Couldnt agree more with you David. The Westboro Baptist Church arnt just evil for preaching hate towards those who are in need of love But, they have also been looked at as a micro cosim of the entire christian faith and as a result people asume every christian is as evil , as homophobic as anti semtic as unloving as stuck up as them. Hopefully alot of people see this and have there opinions changed on what actual Christians are like.
I'm certain that the Westboro baptist church have lost all humanity within them. They're just monsters that shouldn't be welcome into the rest of human society.
Agreed. But isn't that the problem with all religious scriptures? That they can be interpreted on so many ways. Same with islam. Not every Muslim agrees with Bin Laden (to say it nicely). The problem is that it will always feed fundementalists or extremists. Unfortunately, this is also a part of relgion that will always be there.
The Westboro Baptist Church are not nice people. They protested a funeral of a 6 yr old girl not too long ago here in oklahoma. About a year ago they also protested the funeral of a fallen soldier. I wouldn't want them in my church either.
I agree so much about Westboro Baptist people... i swear they teach hate!! it is so sad!! why would they teach so much hate!!!! you should watch the documentary about them!!!! it is sad... i feel sorry for them... i pray for them.... i pray that the Holy Spirit will fill there hearts and teach them how to love! because flat out... your supposed to Love!!!! I pray for them all time! the need saving!!!!
I also don't know why Christians like to speak out against WBC they haven't killed anyone. Next to the Catholic Church and Protestants they look like Gandhi. You are going after the wrong people.
@LinkMEP They fought the Catholics. Martin Luther said Jews should be forced into labor camps and if they didn't work kill them. That is about 40 million times worse than anything the WBC has ever said.
@LinkMEP There are Protestant groups still today in Ireland killing people. Telling people God hates gay people or blowing people up... which one is worse?
@adrenacrumb Protestantism is a group of denominations, not one united group. Many Protestant denominations have nothing to do with eachother. Not even all Protestant churches come from Lutheranism, many come from the Anabaptists. In fact Lutherans have more in common with and have better relations with Catholics than they do other Protestants.
@LinkMEP I think when I said Protestants we can safely assume I meant the ones who were killing people. Never intended to say all of them did, was mainly talking about what Luther set up.
@adrenacrumb "Mainly talking about what Luther set up". Exactly, which was why I was explaining that many Protestant denomintions do not come form Luther's traditions.
@LinkMEP I may be confused then because the word Protestant directly refers to Martin Luther's actions so how can you be a Protestant and have nothing to do with Luther?
@LinkMEP Are you using it incredibly loosely like Baptists are Protestants because I think the 3 major factions still depend on what happened in the Protestant Reformation.
@LinkMEP Or are you saying Calvinism has nothing to do with Luther at all? I can kind of see that but Luther was still the central figure in the establishment on all sects as far as I am aware, but I guess you are saying their actions shouldn't be grouped because of a slight change in doctrine maybe.
@adrenacrumb Calvinism’s theological roots do stem from Lutheranism, but not all of Protestantism does. Some other denominations have their theological roots from the Anabaptists, a group of people who broke from the Catholic church who were not affiliated with Martin Luther.
@LinkMEP Right, but when you read a sentence like Anabaptists were persecuted by Protestants that is how I was using Protestants. Would you say that was a completely unnaceptable use of language or do you get that?
@LinkMEP Calvinists burned heretics did they not? I sort of understand where you are coming from but I meant Protestants in the larger sense as most people do when they just say Protestants.
@adrenacrumb Then there are other denominations that broke off from the Catholic Church later, often to practice Christianity like the Original Christians after Historical evidence that Ancient Christian practices were very different from Catholic practices started to surface.
@LinkMEP I understand your point but when someone says Protestant there is no way to break them all up. Anyone would say something like Germany was broken up into Catholics and Protestants and when they said that you wouldn't automatically think literally every Protestant sect was in Germany, just not how the language works. I recognize there are Protestants who have not partaken in violence but that isn't a feasible way to express what I was saying.
We David... you know as for me... you are preaching to the choir. WBC is a harmful group and the seem warped. Jesus preach against such people and I can't believe that they can't see it.
And another thing: Where is the proof that god hates me? Where is the proof in the bible stating that god detest me hates me or rejects me? There is no name to whom the bible teaches as to what kind of people god hates. It is true that Jesus warns about hell but those who refuses and ignore what Jesus said goes to hell. I have proven to myself that god does infact loves me through praying repenting and feeling guilty for my sin i do each time.God knows our hearts more then we know ourselves.
Thank you so much for mentioning about this, I have already forgiven them for damaging me and thanks to their idiotic anti gay rants my love for Jesus has grown. As a gay man seeking christ their word hurt. I prefer for them to know me then to judge me i prefer for them to love me then to hate me. I disire to be loved not hate but i don't care what these people say anymore. Truly say say to them if they kill me with their words i will pray to god to set them straight. Le them idiots come!!
I don't believe in Hell. But I see the difference between talking about hell and saying that God hates you for your sexuality or whatnot and you're going to hell. I'm also not a Christian, but I believe that God loves everyone, gay or straight, Christian, Atheist, Pagan, etc. Anyone who says the words "God Hates" and then refers to a person obviously doesn't understand the bible. Though I must ask you, would you allow people in your church that were Christians but had some different theological
Just sayin... It's one thing if Westboro wants to protest in America, but they truly are idiots if they think they can go to another country and picket... you know, where there is no first amendment... where there are no rights, where they won't be a protected organization. Anyhow, liked and favorited. Very nice rant indeed. :]
What exactly are the goals of the Westboro Baptist Church? I mean... what exactly are they trying to accomplish by all the negative and hurtful behavior?
Kick them out of the church? They're not in the church. They don't know Christ. I think, brother, you should pray that they meet with Christ; That they should know Him and find His love. They're a broken people, raising up broken children. Some of the picketers are only six years old. I understand your righteous anger, but maybe instead of throwing them out in judgement that they can't be saved, you should pray and let God handle their hearts.
TiaBeattie89 15 hours ago
On a side note: Westboro-did you hear how they encourage families to excommunicate & abandon anyone-including the 24 yr old daughter of a member-from the church (aka cult) for disagreeing/introducing a different opinion? Even when she attempted to apologize she was thought of as "invisible" & is not allowed communication with her siblings or family? Supposedly she has not seen her family in 4 years or so due to her questioning certain ideas which is what young people do by nature to learn.
beautifulhelena11 2 weeks ago
I just learned of Westboro. Your video is awesome here! I'm wondering, is there a non-profit dedicated to "abolishing" Westboro? I'm an internet marketng agent & think there should be a non-profit site able to offer it's proceeds to organizations dedicated to better causes than Westboro, such as the victims of Westboro's actions. You're 100% right, they use Christianity as a guise to preach hate. They're passing judgement on others, just 1 example of their misinformed actions.
beautifulhelena11 2 weeks ago
westboro=muslim extremist
strawske 1 month ago
Westboro Baptist Church are the worst kind of people that walk this earth. Even worse than muslim radicals like the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
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I'm from Topeka, and they should burn
26FoxRacing 4 months ago
WBC is sadly more consistent than most professing Christians. Though I don't condone them, your comments about Jesus only speaking about hell to those who thought they had it all together ...depends, there were Jews who thought as you claim, and also the Pharisees/Sadducees which would fit that category--but there were others who were told about sin/hell/judgement by Christ. If you want references I can give them, but Paul did speak about hell/judgment/wrath to unknowing Gentiles.
droptozro 5 months ago
Proverbs 17:5 "He who rejoices at the calamity of others shall not go unpunished."
Uh oh. Looks like the WBC missed that one.
AnthonyCapoFilm 5 months ago
And i thought i hated westboro baptist church enough. Now they're coming to my homecountry to insult the people who died. One of my friends nearly got killed there.
GAMF97 5 months ago
wbc church dont speak for all christians they dont follow the bible god judges sin but loves people and all sinners but jesus never say he died only for the elect he died for all of us gay straight yellow red thats the god of the bible not what wbc that stand for wicked bastard children thats the wbc good review and blashfame to wbc!!!!!!!!dont speak for all true christians!!!!!!!!!1
SuperEricpang 5 months ago
HA! God doesn't exist. Time to go have dude on dude bum sex. Bye!
PoliMeim 5 months ago
Are they in your community and do they effect you personally?
TheStigmadeign 5 months ago
Westboro baptist church traded so much for their notoriety and attention. I don't really care if they get any personally.
DazmoTube 5 months ago
I think the Westboro Baptist Church are the true Christians if there is such a thing. This is coming from an atheist.
TearsOfWar1 5 months ago
The WBC just doesn't make sense. There are gay people in America, so because God doesn't like gays, he goes and kills people who aren't gay and, in this case, are not American. These people are just homophobes who just hide behind religion.
theJMBgamer 5 months ago
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jesusdinosaurs 5 months ago
@jesusdinosaurs
No it didn't.
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LOGICAL POINT OF VIEW: Since the WBC supports the United States Supreme Courts decision they in turn support the countries policies. Therefore they are supporting same country that are fag enablers. If they even put a penny into the US economy by purchasing food, clothes, etc they are supporting the US which are fags enablers.
You see in order for these guys to practice what they preach they would have to cut themselves off completely from the USA or any other fag enabler country period.
bfidel20x 6 months ago
May God bless you and your church and your ministry.
27640756 6 months ago
And it is true, we as human cannot really take cares of everyone of them. What we really can do, is to do whatever the Holy Spirit assigns to us. The rest, Jesus will take care of them
27640756 6 months ago
Amen~ God have thousands of way of solving one problem. And I believe He have thousands of way to finish His work too. And even Paul has to write more than one letter to churches. I believe the Holy Spirit has given us the same goal, but 2 different instructions to told to our churches according to what they are lacking. You have been doing a good job for sharing the God's word. Keep doing what you are doing. For such a time as this, there are so much suffering and misunderstanding.
27640756 6 months ago
Only thur the Bible, and with the guide of the Holy Spirit, in order for us to seek His truth. (Proverbs 3:5-6) Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and not lean unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths.
27640756 6 months ago
Because when you say what they are doing wrong. To them you are judging. And when they say what you are doing wrong. They are also judging too.
27640756 6 months ago
You should not kick anyone out of a Church. Yes, they are wrong. But Jesus came for the sinners. Churches' doors should always open to all people. Jesus would never kick out anybody who comes to seek him. Except for the time when people do buying and selling and yelling at His temple.
27640756 6 months ago
This is not about what I say, nor what you say, nor what they say. It is all about what God says. If you believe your bible is the word of God, n if they clam themselves Christian, which should also believe the bible is the word of God. Then you should invite them, sit down with them with your opened bible.
27640756 6 months ago
@27640756 Check out 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 and Tit 3:10-11, the latter says,
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
thepursuitblog 6 months ago
@thepursuitblog Paul wrote this letter was because at that time the world was so dark and so wicked. He was so angry and so sad that there are brothers and sisters being so sinful, even though they know what they were doing was wrong. Knowing that they were doing wrong and still do it, the bible call that sin against God. That leaves God no choice, but to kick them out, just like He cast the flood. However, kicking them out is always the last resort.
27640756 6 months ago
@27640756 watch the video again. I do say that I'd first go to them to show them their doctrinal error. But if they persist in that theology, the Bible leaves me little room to keep people preaching so outspokenly a false Gospel. And by separating them from my church, I can reach people who have willing hearts. The Bible even talks about by putting them out you have a chance to save their souls because you show how serious this matter is. God is love and I affirm that. Don't get me wrong.
thepursuitblog 6 months ago
Galatians 6:1 "Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted."
27640756 6 months ago
God is Love. God wants united not separation. When you look at the parable of weed. They were grow together, bare together, tight together. The separations that is going to be done by God, is only after Jesus comes back. That is time for Jesus to sentence the judge by His righteousness.
27640756 6 months ago
God wants to save more lives. And while He wants that, should we be casting them out of the church? And while we live in Jesus, and we live with the Holy Spirit. Should we do this to His children?
27640756 6 months ago
You see, even though you and me have different opinion. So we sit down with our bibles opened. I don't know yours, but mine is. And we discuss what the Holy Spirit has given us, and share want the bible says. This is what God wanted to see. If you can do it with me as a stranger, you can explain to them to. Not by you nor by me, but by the word of God.
27640756 6 months ago
And if the Holy Spirit guide you to explain anything to me. Please share with me, because I am hunger of His truth and His word.
27640756 6 months ago
The thing about Norway is that, there's no 1st amendment there. They're going to waste money travelling there, just to possibly end up arrested. There's no reason for their pickets anyways, they don't try to add members to their church, they don't try to convert gays to straight, the only logical reason is that they do it for attention. They're pushing it, and hopefully they push it too far one day.
illcommentu 6 months ago 2
they protested my church. and called us a "whore-church" because we let women preach. nuf said
Waddeell40 6 months ago
Hey...There's an old-saying...A Fish rots from the Head-Down....If a pastor is nuts & full of hate....then he will attract...like-minded(mind?) Types...&..he can't be "excommunicated" cause he'll (hell?) just incorporate under a variable-Name...who is West-boro in-Communion with?...maybe just-themselves,maybe,Westboro-Baptists are already a seperate-sect totally on their own crazy-terms..?
tlaniganschmidt 6 months ago
There's like 80 people in WBC ... there's a lot more pressing issues in the world than 80 people.
matrix4022 6 months ago
if the westboro baptist church.. or anyone else for that matter picketed at a funeral of my child they would not bring any extra pain to me, only themselves, none would be leaving it alive, then no one would have to worry about them causing pain to anyone else ever again
CanIHazProductions 6 months ago
You got to remember that we Norwegians are Vikings, we can put up a fight with these guys...
oggybodoggy 6 months ago
"You call it hope, that fire of fire. It is but agony of desire." - Edgar Allen Poe: Tamerlane
theevilgood 6 months ago
aaaaaah they make my blood boil.
AYRABSfivetwo 6 months ago
Actually their excuse for this is they do love everyone but they just send a message. Ignore WBC.
Zachylolz 6 months ago
They aren't protected in Norway... maybe Norway people will get rid of the westboro baptist church. haha.
drumcorpsgirl1991 6 months ago
The question is, will Norway put up with it?
JOgleJSO1 6 months ago
Westboro challenges the White Supremacy movement.
nachillyo 6 months ago
1. Thank you for criticizing your fellow christians. If you "real" christians don't, you become their enablers. It's rare to see what you've done.
2. How do you know you are the "true" christian? They think they are "true" christians. Have you ever heard of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy?
3. You keep saying jesus but if you went back in time and met the man you revere (if he even existed) he would not respond to "jesus" because that was not his name. It was yeshua. Jesus is a translation.
ratdavid9 6 months ago
I have made videos in the past rebuking the Westborough Basptist Church. I agree that what they do at funnerals is not within the boundaries of scripture. but you are way off in what you state regarding Christ's message of hell and stating funnerals need to be respected in the way you suggest.
Jesus even told one disciple that his deceased father was spiritually dead.
So Jesus, in no uncertain terms, was telling the man that his deceased father was going to hell.
TrustinJC 6 months ago
I dont care who died, its rediculous to disrespect a funeral where people are trying to mourn the loss of thier loved ones
brandon51891 6 months ago
The Funniest thing about them going to Norway is that it's illegal to use hate speech in Norway punishable up to 3 years in prison. If they don't get stopped at custome they will be arrested on the spot. I truly hope that they are ignorant enough to think that they are protected by the constitution in a foreign land.
GrogTheRed 6 months ago
Amen brother!
Shyguyx12 6 months ago
My friend if you are going to be a pastor in a few years I would want to go to your church!Just promise to keep some preaching online!!
waderp 6 months ago
Creating conversation is what you have been all about and why I sub ... I have created video responses, etc ... however your present it, your videos should continue to asks questions and challenge us ... that's my opinion.
TheChangeVlog 6 months ago
You can't kick them out ... but if they were uner your teaching, they probably wouldn't be doing this!!
TheChangeVlog 6 months ago
WBC upstes me so much and makes me embarressed ...
TheChangeVlog 6 months ago
WBC is a hate group under the shield of a religion. I'm not much of a bible buff, but I know that the words "fag" and "bitch burger" are nowhere in the pages. They choose to use hateful words to spread their message and that in itself is against what the bible teaches. I've said it to them before and I'll say it to them again, "YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!"
CaptainAwesomeoh13 6 months ago
@wbctellsthetruth And the rest of the world thinks that the WBC are a bunch of tactless idiots who should remain hidden from behind their compound walls.
CaptainAwesomeoh13 6 months ago
I believe the WBC will be in Texas the 6th of this month to stand side by side with athiests io protest the day of prayer declared set aside by the governer of Texas. So we see the WBC and the athiests working together. Who would have thought?
toucan780 6 months ago
@toucan780 I highly doubt the atheists will accept the WBC. The reasons of the WBC is WAY different from the reasons of the secularists.
ItsSpikeHere 6 months ago
Wtf? I knew the Westburo Baptists Church was messed up but not that messed up. Seriously they're going all the way to Norway to protest at children's funerals? That is beyond disturbing.
lastswordfighter 6 months ago
they wont be allowed to protest in Norway, cause here its illegal to protest unless the goverment approves it, they will need to seek permit, and they wont be granted, trust me, they will get in jail if they protest in Norway without permit
vaultkeeper2 6 months ago
im kindof blown away myself
as a Chistian i have said some pretty hateful things in the past and i know that it was wrong
but whats really bad about that "godhatesfags" is crazy because it seems like they dont think that they r wrong in any way shape or form. and it just bad that they would go out and attempt to represent christianity in a negative way
shaniece12341 6 months ago
Dang, I absolutely wish that WBC would vanish completely! They are the greatest scum of the earth, and I feel bad for the children being taught a lot of that crap. Now they have to grow up being hated! It makes me sick to my stomach. >:(
LegenderySpectrum 6 months ago
Great new video style! Just because youre talking about religious material, doesnt mean you have to be completly serious
00rac 6 months ago
I totally agree with you! It is defintely complete unChristian behavior! I have seen people act unChristian but not as bad as they do.
ALICIAxBEAUTY 6 months ago
must say... you are growing a lot through all of your videos, and this one has been your best yet! Keep it up brother!
MetalConn 6 months ago
I knew the people who run the site God hates fags wern't really Christians. I have had a few hate messages from them. They are vipers.
derekw148 6 months ago
HappyCabbie (an atheist) has a good and thorough video making his case on why the Westboro Baptist Church isn't Christian, and argues that Christians aren't committing the "No true Scotsman" fallacy when they say WBC isn't Christian, as they're often accused of doing. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.
nymphrenic 6 months ago
Preach it brotha!!
michjefferson77 6 months ago
Seriously, people who hate so virulently and who go out of their way to inflict such hurt and pain on others, are simply mentally unwell. They need to be locked up and treated with electo-shock therapy and pumped full of drugs until they come to their senses. I'm surprised nobody's kicked down their door and dragged them off to mental institutions and involuntarily committed them. They're serious nutters.
CyeOutsider 6 months ago
I'm not religious, but I say amen to that!!
CyeOutsider 6 months ago
I just can't unlike you. I'll admit I think differently about things and my veiws will not be considered traditional, and I don't like preachers and I think prophets lie to tell you what they think you want to hear. I read my bible at home, thank you very much. That said, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING AGAINST WESTBORO! I am in 100% agreement. If anything bad where to happen to them I would show the same disrespect to them as they do to others. The only good Westboro member is a dead one.
bibbeny 6 months ago
Thanks for speaking up against this assholes. Anyway... If they come to Norway they probably just would get beaten badly up long before reaching the funerals.
Btw Who said "Do not do to others what angers you if done to you by others" and when did this person live?
Thanx for this video and the sympathy you are showing. Many tears are wept these days in Norway. Muslims, Judes, Christians and Atheist are joining together against this horrendous act of terror.
TheNorwegianSkeptic 6 months ago
Not that I don't hate the WBC, I really do, but if god loves gay people then he's got a weird way of showing it.
TheLaughingOut 6 months ago
Couldnt agree more with you David. The Westboro Baptist Church arnt just evil for preaching hate towards those who are in need of love But, they have also been looked at as a micro cosim of the entire christian faith and as a result people asume every christian is as evil , as homophobic as anti semtic as unloving as stuck up as them. Hopefully alot of people see this and have there opinions changed on what actual Christians are like.
DontCallMeASmurf 6 months ago
I could see the red on your face.
I'm certain that the Westboro baptist church have lost all humanity within them. They're just monsters that shouldn't be welcome into the rest of human society.
Lanedude08 6 months ago
Agreed. But isn't that the problem with all religious scriptures? That they can be interpreted on so many ways. Same with islam. Not every Muslim agrees with Bin Laden (to say it nicely). The problem is that it will always feed fundementalists or extremists. Unfortunately, this is also a part of relgion that will always be there.
zijpie2 6 months ago 2
The Westboro Baptist Church are not nice people. They protested a funeral of a 6 yr old girl not too long ago here in oklahoma. About a year ago they also protested the funeral of a fallen soldier. I wouldn't want them in my church either.
MsMusicjunkie91 6 months ago
@MsMusicjunkie91
They apparently love Oklahoma and protesting here. If they're near where I live, me and my friends and an army of people harass them.
Lanedude08 6 months ago
I agree so much about Westboro Baptist people... i swear they teach hate!! it is so sad!! why would they teach so much hate!!!! you should watch the documentary about them!!!! it is sad... i feel sorry for them... i pray for them.... i pray that the Holy Spirit will fill there hearts and teach them how to love! because flat out... your supposed to Love!!!! I pray for them all time! the need saving!!!!
LivingOutinOKC 6 months ago
I also don't know why Christians like to speak out against WBC they haven't killed anyone. Next to the Catholic Church and Protestants they look like Gandhi. You are going after the wrong people.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@adrenacrumb Most Protestant denominations have never been involved in any killings.
LinkMEP 6 months ago
@LinkMEP They fought the Catholics. Martin Luther said Jews should be forced into labor camps and if they didn't work kill them. That is about 40 million times worse than anything the WBC has ever said.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@LinkMEP There are Protestant groups still today in Ireland killing people. Telling people God hates gay people or blowing people up... which one is worse?
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@adrenacrumb Protestantism is a group of denominations, not one united group. Many Protestant denominations have nothing to do with eachother. Not even all Protestant churches come from Lutheranism, many come from the Anabaptists. In fact Lutherans have more in common with and have better relations with Catholics than they do other Protestants.
LinkMEP 6 months ago
@LinkMEP I think when I said Protestants we can safely assume I meant the ones who were killing people. Never intended to say all of them did, was mainly talking about what Luther set up.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@adrenacrumb "Mainly talking about what Luther set up". Exactly, which was why I was explaining that many Protestant denomintions do not come form Luther's traditions.
LinkMEP 6 months ago
@LinkMEP I may be confused then because the word Protestant directly refers to Martin Luther's actions so how can you be a Protestant and have nothing to do with Luther?
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@LinkMEP Are you using it incredibly loosely like Baptists are Protestants because I think the 3 major factions still depend on what happened in the Protestant Reformation.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@LinkMEP Or are you saying Calvinism has nothing to do with Luther at all? I can kind of see that but Luther was still the central figure in the establishment on all sects as far as I am aware, but I guess you are saying their actions shouldn't be grouped because of a slight change in doctrine maybe.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@adrenacrumb Calvinism’s theological roots do stem from Lutheranism, but not all of Protestantism does. Some other denominations have their theological roots from the Anabaptists, a group of people who broke from the Catholic church who were not affiliated with Martin Luther.
LinkMEP 6 months ago
@LinkMEP Right, but when you read a sentence like Anabaptists were persecuted by Protestants that is how I was using Protestants. Would you say that was a completely unnaceptable use of language or do you get that?
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@LinkMEP Calvinists burned heretics did they not? I sort of understand where you are coming from but I meant Protestants in the larger sense as most people do when they just say Protestants.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@adrenacrumb Then there are other denominations that broke off from the Catholic Church later, often to practice Christianity like the Original Christians after Historical evidence that Ancient Christian practices were very different from Catholic practices started to surface.
LinkMEP 6 months ago
@LinkMEP Is it doctrine or origin or what exactly because Protestant can even loosely be defined as any Christian who opposes the Catholic Church.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@LinkMEP I understand your point but when someone says Protestant there is no way to break them all up. Anyone would say something like Germany was broken up into Catholics and Protestants and when they said that you wouldn't automatically think literally every Protestant sect was in Germany, just not how the language works. I recognize there are Protestants who have not partaken in violence but that isn't a feasible way to express what I was saying.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
@LinkMEP You need to tell me how you define Protestant exactly not just name some random groups, in what sense are you using the term Protestant?
adrenacrumb 6 months ago
We David... you know as for me... you are preaching to the choir. WBC is a harmful group and the seem warped. Jesus preach against such people and I can't believe that they can't see it.
QueerAsFaith 6 months ago
The only problem here is that going by your logic there hasn't been a true Christian Church for about 2000 years.
adrenacrumb 6 months ago 2
And another thing: Where is the proof that god hates me? Where is the proof in the bible stating that god detest me hates me or rejects me? There is no name to whom the bible teaches as to what kind of people god hates. It is true that Jesus warns about hell but those who refuses and ignore what Jesus said goes to hell. I have proven to myself that god does infact loves me through praying repenting and feeling guilty for my sin i do each time.God knows our hearts more then we know ourselves.
AlvaroAndfriends 6 months ago
They spew hate "in the name of God" and they operate under a tax exemption...
retrospects 6 months ago
Thank you so much for mentioning about this, I have already forgiven them for damaging me and thanks to their idiotic anti gay rants my love for Jesus has grown. As a gay man seeking christ their word hurt. I prefer for them to know me then to judge me i prefer for them to love me then to hate me. I disire to be loved not hate but i don't care what these people say anymore. Truly say say to them if they kill me with their words i will pray to god to set them straight. Le them idiots come!!
AlvaroAndfriends 6 months ago
I don't believe in Hell. But I see the difference between talking about hell and saying that God hates you for your sexuality or whatnot and you're going to hell. I'm also not a Christian, but I believe that God loves everyone, gay or straight, Christian, Atheist, Pagan, etc. Anyone who says the words "God Hates" and then refers to a person obviously doesn't understand the bible. Though I must ask you, would you allow people in your church that were Christians but had some different theological
ItsSpikeHere 6 months ago
@ItsSpikeHere viewpoints?
ItsSpikeHere 6 months ago
Piece of shit church,I hope it burns,"Christians"? HA
THEARBITER641 6 months ago
Just sayin... It's one thing if Westboro wants to protest in America, but they truly are idiots if they think they can go to another country and picket... you know, where there is no first amendment... where there are no rights, where they won't be a protected organization. Anyhow, liked and favorited. Very nice rant indeed. :]
AmoBytes 6 months ago
What exactly are the goals of the Westboro Baptist Church? I mean... what exactly are they trying to accomplish by all the negative and hurtful behavior?
vertigoelectric 6 months ago 2
I had to post this on my facebook and twitter. I'm am so glad that someone finally talked about this!
GriffinWolf2008 6 months ago