Bollocks the templars where not in solomons temple that was destroyed by babylon and rebuilt by the herod dynasty and had no place in true worship as the jews where abandoned by god for their sin which included like your video false gods, cast out to the nations in 70 ad and the temple removed completely by god. the reason the pope and the king of France turned on the templars was their wealth and power. The blasphemy they where guilty of was to deny Christ was God! Louis and clement feared them
ummm... okayyyy. Tell me how you really feel... sheesh.
well, they were excavating beneath the upper levels of the destroyed temple. they were at the site of the temple. yes. the temple was destroyed. Louis and Clement feared them... right, though I don't think you understand why.
Yes I understand why the fear! The Kingdom of God belonged to the weathiest farthest reaching most controling (cashflow) militarially powerful and influential organisation in the western empire, who where able through what they learned (not just a military order but scholastic) to expose the king of france's misguided belief and the lies of the catholic church. They where poised to rule the world. Maybe they found the true religion and are martyrs to it About the Temple you should read on Titus
nicely said. you understand well.. along the lines of how I see it also. The King and Church owed a lot of money to them as well. They really were a threat to their power. They may have succeeded in making the world a better place, had it not been for Friday the Thirteenth.
Well Imust apologise I got the impression you believed that it was the templars where the conspiritors. I do not given the available gennuine evidence, they where conspired against because they realised what was going on! The king of France was a raving lunatic who believed himself to be the actual Son of God the one from the trinity the Pope was his prisoner. They lost and truth was suppresed, and still is today!
apology accepted. thank you. Whatever was left of them had to go underground. I believe they began as a good group - the templars, with noble intentions. some of the ones that remain may have become the banking systems we know today, and we know as the Illuminati. Though, i think that is more closely aligned with the Catholic Church than with the Templars.
I do not believe there was anything mystical about them in business they seemed to be a group of racketeers trading in relics, after their suppresion on the lies of Louis apart from the few executed there is sound historical evidence that shows most of them simply gave up the order and returned to life as ordinary catholics in short they toed the religious line! The myths and legends grew out of the dark ages and ignorance to what we read of them today, I think they could not have found the ark!
Elmtrees, your account sounds very much like the dry history books on the subject, no offense. I believe they were responsible, in part, for the huge explosion of sacred geometry in medieval architecture, for one, in Europe, after they excavated in Solomon's temple. they were certainly into the occult - alchemy, most likely, and other mysteries. i don't think it is so cut and dry as you suggest.
Solomons temple had been gone for close to 1500 years before the templars. At best they looked around the remains of herods temple. 800 ad reims cathedral charlemaine, every bit of geometary there 300 years before the templars. You and others conjour romantic falacy.
The Templars spents years under there. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they could have found many things that had remained hidden. secret areas, buried chambers.
It is also not rocket science either to suppose the other occupants of the temple mount had a bit of a look round too, say Nebuchadnezzar when he dismantled the temple of Solomon to make sure he had all the treasure of the God he had just conquered, Or maybe Titus when he litterally took dowm every stone to recover the gold that had ran between them during a fire. Then the muslims that built the mosque that stands there today may have had a bit of a squint at what they had taken possession of.
good points. good points. These are the kinds of things that history cannot really tell you exactly what happened. I think we have to, at times, imagine what happened, and then feel intuitively which is the most likely thing to have happened.
The Cistercians gave rise to the Templar movement. They learned from the Rabbis in Southern France during that time. Maybe they even had privileged inside info of where sacred teachings were buried in the Temple? It's huge down there. Ever been?
I think that is the real maguc of events like these, and others Robin Hood, Richard the Lion Heart, Robert bruce, not so much the legend and myth that's thrown up but the reasons for the legends starting, the common thought of the day and not of the reader, Man and his foibles are such an interesting subject. Sadly not but go in a flash to any historical site on the planet especially the ones with controvesy attached, Jerusalem must be top of that list.
Funnily enough all three of those charecters had a definite link to the templars whether true is up to the reader but very definite none the less. Rumours are Richard sold the templars Cyprus when they left acre, Robin hoods father was killed in the crusades and as Locksley was knighted by Richard the lion heart, and the templars fleeing from france landed in Scotland and fought at Bannock Burn when Robert bruce routed the English, and it was templars that carried his heart to palestine????
Elmtrees, your account sounds much like the dry history books which have a tendency to surgically remove all elements that do not fit into the very boring picture of life on earth without any of the mysterious, the occult, the magical. i believe the Templars practiced alchemy, the mysteries, they knew and understood the stars. they were the Knights of Solomon, after all. I believe they were responsible for bringing the sacred geometry in architecture back to europe as well.
Feel intuitively about things? Sounds like guess work to me.
Philox98 1 year ago
Bollocks the templars where not in solomons temple that was destroyed by babylon and rebuilt by the herod dynasty and had no place in true worship as the jews where abandoned by god for their sin which included like your video false gods, cast out to the nations in 70 ad and the temple removed completely by god. the reason the pope and the king of France turned on the templars was their wealth and power. The blasphemy they where guilty of was to deny Christ was God! Louis and clement feared them
elmtrees1 2 years ago
ummm... okayyyy. Tell me how you really feel... sheesh.
well, they were excavating beneath the upper levels of the destroyed temple. they were at the site of the temple. yes. the temple was destroyed. Louis and Clement feared them... right, though I don't think you understand why.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
Yes I understand why the fear! The Kingdom of God belonged to the weathiest farthest reaching most controling (cashflow) militarially powerful and influential organisation in the western empire, who where able through what they learned (not just a military order but scholastic) to expose the king of france's misguided belief and the lies of the catholic church. They where poised to rule the world. Maybe they found the true religion and are martyrs to it About the Temple you should read on Titus
elmtrees1 2 years ago
nicely said. you understand well.. along the lines of how I see it also. The King and Church owed a lot of money to them as well. They really were a threat to their power. They may have succeeded in making the world a better place, had it not been for Friday the Thirteenth.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
Well Imust apologise I got the impression you believed that it was the templars where the conspiritors. I do not given the available gennuine evidence, they where conspired against because they realised what was going on! The king of France was a raving lunatic who believed himself to be the actual Son of God the one from the trinity the Pope was his prisoner. They lost and truth was suppresed, and still is today!
elmtrees1 2 years ago
apology accepted. thank you. Whatever was left of them had to go underground. I believe they began as a good group - the templars, with noble intentions. some of the ones that remain may have become the banking systems we know today, and we know as the Illuminati. Though, i think that is more closely aligned with the Catholic Church than with the Templars.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
I do not believe there was anything mystical about them in business they seemed to be a group of racketeers trading in relics, after their suppresion on the lies of Louis apart from the few executed there is sound historical evidence that shows most of them simply gave up the order and returned to life as ordinary catholics in short they toed the religious line! The myths and legends grew out of the dark ages and ignorance to what we read of them today, I think they could not have found the ark!
elmtrees1 2 years ago
Elmtrees, your account sounds very much like the dry history books on the subject, no offense. I believe they were responsible, in part, for the huge explosion of sacred geometry in medieval architecture, for one, in Europe, after they excavated in Solomon's temple. they were certainly into the occult - alchemy, most likely, and other mysteries. i don't think it is so cut and dry as you suggest.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
Solomons temple had been gone for close to 1500 years before the templars. At best they looked around the remains of herods temple. 800 ad reims cathedral charlemaine, every bit of geometary there 300 years before the templars. You and others conjour romantic falacy.
elmtrees1 2 years ago
there are vast depths beneath the Temple.
The Templars spents years under there. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they could have found many things that had remained hidden. secret areas, buried chambers.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
It is also not rocket science either to suppose the other occupants of the temple mount had a bit of a look round too, say Nebuchadnezzar when he dismantled the temple of Solomon to make sure he had all the treasure of the God he had just conquered, Or maybe Titus when he litterally took dowm every stone to recover the gold that had ran between them during a fire. Then the muslims that built the mosque that stands there today may have had a bit of a squint at what they had taken possession of.
elmtrees1 2 years ago
good points. good points. These are the kinds of things that history cannot really tell you exactly what happened. I think we have to, at times, imagine what happened, and then feel intuitively which is the most likely thing to have happened.
The Cistercians gave rise to the Templar movement. They learned from the Rabbis in Southern France during that time. Maybe they even had privileged inside info of where sacred teachings were buried in the Temple? It's huge down there. Ever been?
MosheDan9 2 years ago
I think that is the real maguc of events like these, and others Robin Hood, Richard the Lion Heart, Robert bruce, not so much the legend and myth that's thrown up but the reasons for the legends starting, the common thought of the day and not of the reader, Man and his foibles are such an interesting subject. Sadly not but go in a flash to any historical site on the planet especially the ones with controvesy attached, Jerusalem must be top of that list.
elmtrees1 2 years ago
Funnily enough all three of those charecters had a definite link to the templars whether true is up to the reader but very definite none the less. Rumours are Richard sold the templars Cyprus when they left acre, Robin hoods father was killed in the crusades and as Locksley was knighted by Richard the lion heart, and the templars fleeing from france landed in Scotland and fought at Bannock Burn when Robert bruce routed the English, and it was templars that carried his heart to palestine????
elmtrees1 2 years ago
Elmtrees, your account sounds much like the dry history books which have a tendency to surgically remove all elements that do not fit into the very boring picture of life on earth without any of the mysterious, the occult, the magical. i believe the Templars practiced alchemy, the mysteries, they knew and understood the stars. they were the Knights of Solomon, after all. I believe they were responsible for bringing the sacred geometry in architecture back to europe as well.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
these are awesome videos, i can tell that alot of research was put into creating them. i will have to go back over these and take lots of notes
betzelelgalut 2 years ago
thanks a lot mate! I appreciate it.
MosheDan9 2 years ago
spot on all correct!. grt vid.
SNSV51 2 years ago
Excellent Videos!!!!! :)
2112beware 3 years ago