My toller will chase after a frisbee for hours. The only problem I find is she wants to play tug-o-war with it each time she brings it back. It would be more enjoyable for me if she would simply let go so I can throw it because in the end that is what she wants....me to throw it so she can cate it.
Well, what you could try is shaping the behaviour that you want. Brio sometimes pulls on things when he brings them back. I just let go. I don't say anything. I only take it when he gives it to me without pulling back on it. If the dog wants most for you to throw it, not to tug on it, then the dog will learn pretty fast that only giving it to you without pulling on it (i.e. the dog releases it willingly) results in a throw. :)
Hi. This is a great question. With my dog, he finds it very rewarding to have something thrown for him. However, he had to learn that to get it thrown again (any object), he has to first bring it back to me. So, I started him as a young puppy, throwing things in a hallway, so his only option was to come back toward me. He soon found out that bringing it back resulted in it being thrown again.
He finds that fun (to have it thrown again), so as long as he's not tired, he now naturally brings it back to me. I do not respond to him running around with it. I only give attention when he brings it back to me. "Good boy !" or just a rethrow, which he wants and loves.
This is all based on "positive reinforcement", which is rewarding or giving positive attention to what you want the dog to do, but ignoring what you don't want the dog to do.
However, the dog has to find "playing fetch" rewarding, too, which mine does. He loves it, now that he has learned what works (bringing it back) in order to get what HE wants (to have it thrown again). I hope that was what you were asking. :)
For a dog that likes to just run around with an object, I would suggest ignoring that, not chasing the dog around (which that dog might find rewarding).
I try to end the game before he is really hot and tired. Sometimes I have to insist on him bringing it back the last time or two, but I always make sure I end the play session with him bringing it back, never me going to get something he won't bring back. He has learned that he MUST bring it back at the end of the play session... in order to get what he wants (to stop :) ), but really, it's supposed to be better to end the session while leaving the dog wanting more.
This game does require shaping behaviours (positive reinforcement) in order to get what you want (a dog that brings it back without coaxing), but it definitely makes this game and training much easier to have a dog that naturally loves retrieving, which Brio does. :)
How big do they get plz awnser my question i might get one for christmas
MDR32082 1 year ago
@MDR32082 How big do what get ? The Toller and the frisbee are full grown. ;-)
wr999en 1 year ago
Beautiful dog you've got there. It's amazing how similar her mannerisms are to my toller.
keykendrick 1 year ago
My toller will chase after a frisbee for hours. The only problem I find is she wants to play tug-o-war with it each time she brings it back. It would be more enjoyable for me if she would simply let go so I can throw it because in the end that is what she wants....me to throw it so she can cate it.
autumnblond 2 years ago
Well, what you could try is shaping the behaviour that you want. Brio sometimes pulls on things when he brings them back. I just let go. I don't say anything. I only take it when he gives it to me without pulling back on it. If the dog wants most for you to throw it, not to tug on it, then the dog will learn pretty fast that only giving it to you without pulling on it (i.e. the dog releases it willingly) results in a throw. :)
wr999en 2 years ago
how did you get him to bring back the frisbee
Bujar50 3 years ago
Hi. This is a great question. With my dog, he finds it very rewarding to have something thrown for him. However, he had to learn that to get it thrown again (any object), he has to first bring it back to me. So, I started him as a young puppy, throwing things in a hallway, so his only option was to come back toward me. He soon found out that bringing it back resulted in it being thrown again.
wr999en 3 years ago
He finds that fun (to have it thrown again), so as long as he's not tired, he now naturally brings it back to me. I do not respond to him running around with it. I only give attention when he brings it back to me. "Good boy !" or just a rethrow, which he wants and loves.
This is all based on "positive reinforcement", which is rewarding or giving positive attention to what you want the dog to do, but ignoring what you don't want the dog to do.
wr999en 3 years ago
However, the dog has to find "playing fetch" rewarding, too, which mine does. He loves it, now that he has learned what works (bringing it back) in order to get what HE wants (to have it thrown again). I hope that was what you were asking. :)
For a dog that likes to just run around with an object, I would suggest ignoring that, not chasing the dog around (which that dog might find rewarding).
wr999en 3 years ago
I try to end the game before he is really hot and tired. Sometimes I have to insist on him bringing it back the last time or two, but I always make sure I end the play session with him bringing it back, never me going to get something he won't bring back. He has learned that he MUST bring it back at the end of the play session... in order to get what he wants (to stop :) ), but really, it's supposed to be better to end the session while leaving the dog wanting more.
wr999en 3 years ago
This game does require shaping behaviours (positive reinforcement) in order to get what you want (a dog that brings it back without coaxing), but it definitely makes this game and training much easier to have a dog that naturally loves retrieving, which Brio does. :)
wr999en 3 years ago
thanks i'll try it with my puppy.
Bujar50 3 years ago
lol, i love how he just puts the frizbee on ur lap!
drewfett34 3 years ago
Looks like my Toller!
carolyndecker 3 years ago
Nice video
turok2005 3 years ago