David Cameron - no vote on Lisbon Treaty for you (04Oct09)

[gavmcguinness8024]

I originally voted no in the first vote here in Ireland and I then followed with a second no in the second vote! Its a shame that my fellow countrymen fell for the scare mongering used by the European Union.

[markryker]

What a cunt

[jpmccue7]

He just said he would like a sovereign nation and still be part of the E.U. and the interviewer twisted his words, that's what it sounded like to me, but i don't know

[Valshala]

Cameron is just another NWO puppet like Blair.. The face running the government is unimportant as they all serve the same agenda.

[butchd2010]

oi cameron so where is the referendum ?  im betting we dont get it

[hoplite46]

Look at it now !!!!

[ukbands]

We Must stand and Hold all of them to account, this is treason

The Queen is on the site of he EU Nazis she has sold us out.

WE are our only hope,we must stand.... please wake up everyone

[TheHighlands43113]

If Cameron had kept his prmoise to hold a refferendum on this treay, I personally believe he would have won the 2010 election with a majority. It's irrelavent to whether the treays ratified or not, Britain as a member of EU has the right to give consent to this treaty at any time, where is the democracy going in this country!? :(

[VooDooU22X]

that just leaves the poles then ..oh no, cus their dead now aren't they !!!

[rcoones102]

Here it is on video....Cameron saying he does not support a Referendum, after he says before that he would have a referendum if other countrys had not ratified the Lisbon Treaty. Unbelieveable! He is talking out of both side of his mouth, he wants a referendum and then he will not offer a referendum. Your site is well named...Liar Politicians.

[Sirtubesalot1]

Pretty clear.. nothings gonna change. Britain's been had Obama style.

[meak911]

.Cameron breaks number campaign promise to hold EU referendum on Lisbon treaty, Nov. 4, 2009:

"We cannot hold a referendum and magically make those posts or the Lisbon treaty itself disappear, any more than we could hold a referendum to stop the sun rising in the morning."

That sneaky little devil.

[meak911]

What a sniveling weasel.

[thedyer1971]

Remember , no one rules if no one obeys.....David cameron is new world order scum......to see the cage is to escape the cage...

[zedeIslam1]

Vote & support labour, If you do not want to see the Margaret Thatcher 's dark era again

[Nationalism4Life]

Vote BNP, people. You know it's good for you.

[VooDooU22X]

another bilderburg stoog ..sickening .

[shine350]

Hang the treasonous bastards!

[rodjames98]

He like Blair ,Bush, berlasconi and all the other fascists is part of the illuminati, never kid yourself anything is going to change with this clown holding the reigns. It will be business as usual.

[UKUltraNationalist]

Cameron and Brown will pay

[MrJST87]

These people are bullshit, I'm voting UKIP.

[mpearson58]

The delays over the Czechs signing the treaty were because there were questions about it infringing the Czech constitution.

Who is guardian of the British Constitution (I know we have no formal written constitution)?

Brown had no mandate to sign the treaty. The government was elected on the basis that a referendum would be held. That is the government's mandate, nothing else!

Brown's signature should be viewed as invalid then. No more valid than if I'd crept into the room and signed the treaty!

[padraigomairtin]

The situation is very clear. Once the Lisbon Treaty has been ratified, it becomes binding on each member state. The UK cannot hold a referendum on the Treaty at that stage it is too late. The UK can hold a referendum on continued membership of the EU which I thinks is what UKIP and the Conservatives really want.

[dave009ish]

Payback and take back time.Vote UKIP,get rid of the communist Labour and Conservative parties that refuse us our democratic right to vote on the EU,that want mass immigration and which have turned the Evening Standard into a communist news rag.

[philproductions2210]

Cameron is lying.. He has no intention of having a referendum.

'Being friends with European Union' is a crazy suggestion (knowing their form) of Andrew Marr!

The only option now is to have a european war to knock the EU off its perch for ever.

Democratic process cannot be relied upon - it doesnt work - and its gone too far now to do anything but complete destruction of all EU philes

We need to execute EU politicians and destroy for ever any EU institutions for the good of mankind

[loveEUROPEhateEU]

Or we could all vote UKIP get them in power and pull England out of the dreaded EU. And if you're not ENglish never know your country might follow suit.

[kealyc]

@philproductions2210 - I understand your passion, the EU is a pain in the arse, but executing people is not an option.

[FrankinHolland]

What a slimeball and Labour is even worse.

[FrankinHolland]

If this guy gets into office you are doomed. The UK is running out of chances.

[lejiboy2402]

Go Cameron! He is so correct, why make the decision and leave other states without a choice!

[squidcreek]

Good morning David!

I want to read your mind,

Squid

[lucius1976]

The European Community even back in 1973 was more than a free trade area. So, Britain decided that it wanted more than a Free Trade Area. There was once a EFTA (European Free Trade Area), but Britain left it for the European Community, a common market. If Britain just wants a Free Trade Area it must leave the EU and renegotiate a Free Trade Treaty with the EU. I think that would be foolish thing to do, but i it wants it. So be it.

[asmodeus585]

Britain decided? People didn't know anything about EC being more than an international free trade agreement. The ones who decided to joing EC were our politicians. Yes, we had a referendum, but they were saying that EEC will be just a better EFTA, not a full political union as EU.

[lucius1976]

Well, even back to the Treaty of Rome in 1957 the wrote in the preamble:

"determined to lay the foundations of an EVER CLOSER union among the peoples of Europe,

resolved to ensure the economic and social progress of their countries by common action to eliminate the barriers which divide Europe"

So, the British people are to blame as well because they didn´t even read the preamble

[asmodeus585]

Of course they are! But don't tell me that all the people who voted for Lisbon in Ireland a while ago have actually read the treaty? That's what the democracy is. It is a rule of the cunning few over idiots manipulated by them (with few exceptions)

[garryentropy]

'one in six children grow up in a household where no one works, more than any other country in europe' according to the conservative party political broadcast,so can someone tell me why britain should be 'taking europe in the right direction' This guy is running with the hares and hunting with the hounds.

[lacokakid]

thats because most of employment since 1997 in britain has went to fornien workers.

[StopBelievingTheLies]

What a joke. Cameron has always known very well that the Lisbon Treaty would be ratified LONG before the election!!! How long does he think Klaus can hold out for heaven's sake! As Klaus said, if the Tories wanted to do something, they should have spoken out before now. There will be no referendum in Britain, the Tories have sold us out just like the rest of them.

[agfigueroaa]

He wants to get the UKIP votes by saying that if the treaty is not ratified by when he comes into office, he will call for a referendum. However, he knows that this treaty will be retified as Barroso and his mob will be pressing on the ratification in CR everyday.

[donoujo]

But can referendum change anything?

[agfigueroaa]

In fact, you hit the nail right on the head.

Certainly no.

I think the way out of this EU deception is a revolution.

A bloody one, like those in the European History.

[donoujo]

In 1984 peoples haven't history.

[loveEUROPEhateEU]

Yes. It stops there being a president of Europe. Also means that any desicion has to be ratified by each member state. Where as if the Lisbon is fully ratified then we don't get a vote on what and what won't happen in europe.

[cheerlessdarkndeadly]

In theory, I am not a Eurosceptic. Any study of post-war European economics clearly shows that those countries who joined first the EEC and the later EU were at a noted advantage to those who didn't. In the decade before the UK joined, members France, Germany and Belgium were achieving double the GDP growth we were. However, an expanse of powers has occurred without the EU becoming democratic. The Commission has too much power and the Parliament too little. The EU needs to be properly democratic

[asmodeus585]

Germans have good economy because of their national policy, not thanks to the EEC. You're taking statistics facts out of context. Norway isn't in the EU and yet most surveys show people living there are the happiest in the world. EU would be good as a free-trade agreement, but since it wants to become a fully political body, it's becoming more and more dangerous to us. What will our parliaments be for, if everything is going to be decided in Brussel anyway?

[cheerlessdarkndeadly]

I didn't take anything out of context, you just didn't read my comment properly. I clearly state that the figures I gave were from 'the decade before Britain joined', justifying our reasons for entering the EEC in the first place. Those benefits obviously aren't as pronounced now, but you have to remember that countries like Norway have special circumstances (in their case, the whaling industry) which means they are better off alone. There's little evidence that we are the same in that regard.

[asmodeus585]

Nvm, what I meant is that I do not consider EEC/EU that helpful at all... I just have different ideas about how the economy should be run - I just don't believe in nations helping other nations solving problems they created for themselves on their own. I support the Austrian school of economics. But you're actually right, I was wrong about you. :)

[donoujo]

National Parliaments will be translated EU decicion in national languages. But English parliamnet will be unnecessary, bec. decicions are in English.

[asmodeus585]

That's why our politicians should rather want to get us out of EU, so that they could still pretend that we 'need' them. ;)

[donoujo]

I'm from Poland. Our euroentusiasm politicians will get money without hard work. And hope to occupy a position in EU.

[donoujo]

When I read Cameron's CV, I'm affraid, that he is "V column" for conservativers. Anyway, I'm affraid of totalitarism too. I know it by myself. And Vaclav Klaus know it. He is the last hope.

[shrunkensimon]

Lmao at the last bit of conversation..

Cameron - We want a referrendum.. but we're not going to say we will definitely have noe.. just vote for conservatives! Screw labor!

1 eye Brown.. Eton toff Cameron.. EU President Nazi Blair..

Is this REALLY the best we can do?? FFS..

[numb15]

well done Ireland for voting yes.

The UK has messed up Northern Ireland, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. etc., so I don't believe a word of their negative propaganda on Europe.

[roflcopter2006]

lol don't worry, you'll see exactly why the dutch and the french, and just about every european country wants no part of the EU constitution, soon enough.

[asmodeus585]

Czechs and Poles are our only hope now.

[courtinjusticeuk]

HMCS Birmingham Priory Court Justice

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[asmodeus585]

I'm sorry, but this url doesn't seem to work...

[Fleshious]

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